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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 596695 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Liam

United States

#537365 May 16, 2014
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I don't have to spread LIES about the Catholic church when the TRUTH about the Catholic church is so much more graphic and headline grabbing.
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And for you to speculate about my personal life, you are out of your mind and so far off the mark it is unreal. How about this bombshell? A family member was raped by a priest. The rape was covered up by the bishop and ignored by all in his chain of command, how's that? This family member later committed suicide. Hows that grab you? Do you want his name? Do you want the priest's (dear, sweet, poor, innocent,*father's*) name? Shall I disclose here, on the board, for all to see? Would that satisfy your morbid sense of curiosity?
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I choose to NOT "embrace" a church guilty of such crimes and of torture and murder and fomenting wars, and especially rumors of pedophile priests being moved from parish to parish sickened me.
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And what Jesus said is NOT deceit. Jesus is not a liar.
http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/23.htm
It only STARTED with Matt 23:9. Jesus ALSO said do not even call men TEACHERS for ONE is your teacher and that would be Christ himself.
8 “But you are not to be called ‘RABBI,’ for you have ONE TEACHER, and you are all BROTHERS. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘FATHER,’ for you have ONE FATHER, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called INSTRUCTORS, for you have ONE INSTRUCTOR, the MESSIAH.
Yeah gimme the name of the Priest. I naturally would doubt any story you have.
If people were as ignorant as you, Christianity would have fizzled in the first ten yrs. Jesus' apostles were made up of murderers, betrayers and thieves. Its hard to believe that someone today, would stop being Catholic because a Priest raped someone and his Bishop lied. Really? 2,000 yrs worth of Sacred teachings down the toilet, because a Priest in 21st century America was a sinner. "But the Popes murderd 50 million during the Inquisition" . No they didnt liar. You havent a clue..

You're going to judge the entire Billion Catholic Church, and the billions that lived in the past on the sins of some of her leaders? You best hope God doesn't act as ignorant as you come judgement day.

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#537366 May 16, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Oh come all ye faithful and worship the devil as your enemy.
NOW if the devil takes the losers, then either the Catholics or the Protestants are going to face the devil.
You can't have two winners in a battle of evil wits.
Silly people!
The Devil takes nothing that hasn't been given to him.. June, you seem to think it all is BS, why would the Romans write Jewish Religious Scrolls with Jesus Incorporated. They had to rewrite history ( back date ) for a long period of time. I do know a little about the history, I just wanted to see what you had to say, I mean besides Dislike. You seem to be holding yourself Hostage because of your dislike for Religion, when it shouldn't even be about them There is an old saying about fools, not the every day ones, but one I can't think of, but it applies to a lot of people, the point being that it's about you June. Each Individual connection with "God" There was a lot more meaning to Jesus turning that Table over In the Temple, than most people realize, or " Religion" wouldn't be what it is today.

"We live our life in chains,
never knowing we had the key"
The Eagles ( Already Gone )
Dan

United States

#537367 May 16, 2014
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Dan says Jews rejected Jesus.
.....Why was he born into the Jewish belief as the son of God if the belief he
worshiped his entire life didn't believe in him?
...If the romans thought of him as a rebel and a nutcase, why would the son of God appear as a rebel and nut case?
....The first few decades early christians never depicted this Christ as ever living in human form yet these early Jew/Christians all lived within the generation that all these events that the new testament describes.....miraculous birth, miracles for thousands, and his death and resurrection.
......remember socialism first started without a leader. The 99% movement that started in Manhattan 3 years ago has no leader..
.....Is it possible a few rogue Jews with agendas created this whole story and it exploded beyond their imagination?
Remember most of the characters, most of the stories in the NT are recorded no where else.
......something is terribly wrong!
What's wrong is your "VanDerMarkian" approach here.

"The first few decades early christians never depicted this Christ as ever living in human form"

False. Just making stuff up to fit your pre-fromed conclusion. A la June.

I don't "say" the Jews rejected Jesus. That's what the story says. That's how the Jews of the day and the Romans regarded Him.

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#537368 May 16, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
The Catholics want to shove the devil at the Protestants and vice versa.
They are a nice bunch of people to be so generous.
:)
To Kind :)
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#537369 May 16, 2014
Cisco Kid wrote:
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So what do you think about the Enlightenment ideals of The French Revolution?
You know, progressives trying to eliminate God and Church, changing the calendar to the metric system of ten day weeks, the spread of liberalism, nationalism, socialism and secularism, the development of modern political ideologies, and the practice of total war.
How did that secularism work out for you?
Bye, bye reality.

Hello delusion.

ramen

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#537370 May 16, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
Jew ... "Do you think that Jesus is a real messiah?"
Other Jew faithful to Judaism ... Are you INSANE? He left Judaism to willingly be baptized by the ex-Jew Catholic John. Does that sound like a Jewish messiah to YOU.
First Jew ... "I suggest we kill him for insulting Judaism."
Other Jews ... "Let's nail him to that cross over there and show him that betraying his own faithful Jews was not even close to being a good idea!!!
And so it came to pass that the Jews by crucifying Jesus believed they pleased their Jewish God Jehovah who was royally insulted by Jesus' traitorous behavior.
tongue in cheek
The Baptism was for Humanity ( Forgiveness ) Hope for all. Very Symbolic meaning for Anyone. You are forgetting thousands of yrs. before Christ of God Worship. Basically from the beginning. I think I saw somewhere that Noah was of a virginal Birth, maybe the Book of Enoch, " Purity for future Generations " The story is much deeper than most people will ever realize, including myself and any Religion.
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#537371 May 16, 2014
Dan wrote:
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What's wrong is your "VanDerMarkian" approach here.
"The first few decades early christians never depicted this Christ as ever living in human form"
False. Just making stuff up to fit your pre-fromed conclusion. A la June.
I don't "say" the Jews rejected Jesus. That's what the story says. That's how the Jews of the day and the Romans regarded Him.
'Just making stuff up to fit your pre-formed conclusion'

Josephus not only mentions Jesus, in one passage he also describes him as a wise man and a teacher.(The passage is controversial because many historians believe a Christian author later added in phrases such as "He was the messiah" to the text, leading a few scholars to doubt the authenticity of the passage as a whole).

http://www.livescience.com/28304-facts-about-...

ramen
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#537372 May 16, 2014
guest wrote:
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I don't have to spread LIES about the Catholic church when the TRUTH about the Catholic church is so much more graphic and headline grabbing.
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And for you to speculate about my personal life, you are out of your mind and so far off the mark it is unreal. How about this bombshell? A family member was raped by a priest. The rape was covered up by the bishop and ignored by all in his chain of command, how's that? This family member later committed suicide. Hows that grab you? Do you want his name? Do you want the priest's (dear, sweet, poor, innocent,*father's*) name? Shall I disclose here, on the board, for all to see? Would that satisfy your morbid sense of curiosity?
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I choose to NOT "embrace" a church guilty of such crimes and of torture and murder and fomenting wars, and especially rumors of pedophile priests being moved from parish to parish sickened me.
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And what Jesus said is NOT deceit. Jesus is not a liar.
http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/23.htm
It only STARTED with Matt 23:9. Jesus ALSO said do not even call men TEACHERS for ONE is your teacher and that would be Christ himself.
8 “But you are not to be called ‘RABBI,’ for you have ONE TEACHER, and you are all BROTHERS. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘FATHER,’ for you have ONE FATHER, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called INSTRUCTORS, for you have ONE INSTRUCTOR, the MESSIAH.
Everyone of the authors of the bible was a sinner: Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said"I am the worst of sinners". If you want to judge by conduct then you better "throw out your bible" because (again) everyone who wrote it was a sinner. This only show how duplicitous, ridiculous and distorted bible only Protestants are in their ingrained anti- Catholic "confused and (messed up) thinking!....
Dan

United States

#537373 May 16, 2014
Gods R Delusions x Mine wrote:
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'Just making stuff up to fit your pre-formed conclusion'
Josephus not only mentions Jesus, in one passage he also describes him as a wise man and a teacher.(The passage is controversial because many historians believe a Christian author later added in phrases such as "He was the messiah" to the text, leading a few scholars to doubt the authenticity of the passage as a whole).
http://www.livescience.com/28304-facts-about-...
ramen
I don't know if this post is to affirm me or rebut me, but it does indicate that at least someone (Josephus) acknowledged that Jesus did in fact live on Earth in human form (contrary to Michael's statement).

TTYL
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#537374 May 16, 2014
"It's puzzling why Paul, the founder of Christianity, who brought Jesus' teachings to the Gentiles, didn't tell us more about Jesus the man, since he was a contemporary of Jesus.

Paul, the Pharisee and student of the renowned Rabbi Gamaliel, was present at the stoning to death of Jesus' disciple Stephen (Acts 8:57-59), which occurred only two years after the crucifixion.

Even if Paul wasn't familiar with all the details of Jesus' life, surely the disciples would have been. Paul's three meetings in Jerusalem with Jesus' disciples, including Peter and Jesus' brother James, add nothing about Jesus life. Why does Paul, the champion of Jesus and his teachings, tell only Paul stories and no Jesus stories?"

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#537375 May 16, 2014
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You don't have the slightest clue.
But you keep pretending, eh?
Oh I believe that I certainly do have a clue about why people wrote such silly theological dramas that they pretended occurred on earth.

They wanted frightened followers to believe that they knew and know truth.

That is the top AND the bottom "line."

To teach that a god loves humans and then rejects them to a fiery hell in a hereafter bespeaks of the most idiotic nonsense possible. We know instinctively that when we love our children, we wish nothing but the best for them, as we don't want them to suffer. Only a maniac would create a plan that includes suffering.

As Robert F stated when he was for a very brief time an Atheist ...

Robert F wrote:
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Greetings June
It is fear that makes the KNOW. Fear of death, and fear of hell, and fear of not making it to heaven.....Religion is based on fear....
Robert

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#537376 May 16, 2014
guest wrote:
<So, it will take another 1500 years before we can give Protestants equal time.
If truth seemed certain and the Protestants had it in their possession, why do you suppose that when they came to America, in their divisive cults they were killing each other off as heretics?

Why do suppose that it was the Protestants that started the Salem witch trials as they burned each other at the stake as witches?

Religion never leads anywhere but to insane hyperbole as the right-fighters fight about who knows truth and who is lying.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#537378 May 16, 2014
Cisco Kid wrote:
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How did that secularism work out for you?
Most people of the world are religious and majority rules.

All the Presidents of the United States have been Christian. And rest assured in India or Iran, you won't find leaders that are not religious.

And if you think that Canada is left out of the religious picture, you would be wrong.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>

Why did 10 evangelical leaders fly with Harper to Israel?

Even though the census shows more than four out of 10 Canadians are Catholics, there were no Catholic bishops or other Catholic officials on the prime ministerial tour, which was almost unprecedented for its size.

However, 21 rabbis (mostly Orthodox) plus scores of other Jewish figures and business people took part in the trip, including Winnipeg’s David Asper and Vancouver’s Sam Belzberg.

There were no Muslims, as far as anyone can tell. Nor Buddhists, Hindus or Sikhs.(Hard to tell re atheists :-))

http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2014/01/28/why-...

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#537379 May 16, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Oh come all ye faithful and worship the devil as your enemy.
NOW if the devil takes the losers, then either the Catholics or the Protestants are going to face the devil.
You can't have two winners in a battle of evil wits.
Silly people!
why didn't you answer the rest of the question?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#537380 May 16, 2014
Michael wrote:
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....You say who knows what was burned? That's just speculation that nothing remained. Philo was the greatest writer of the Jews during this exact time period he would have known of a Jesus. All of his writings survived and not one word of a Jesus, and he recorded much of daily life throughout the land. There were many other writers whose works we have and no mention of Jesus.
...Today many religious scholars now believe some of the later writings of Josephus the Jew are forgeries written in by early Christians. That's not good.
.....you need to always look at both sides of a story.
.....Google. philo no Jesus..........Google.... Josephus forgeries...
.....and see what others say. To not weigh both sides of a story makes some biased.
......just my opinuon
They don't WANT to see that Jesus was a forgery. They do however want to see that all of the other savior-myths WERE forgeries.

They need Jesus to believe they will be saved from God's wrath in a hereafter.

Religion is pathetic!
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#537381 May 16, 2014
Dan wrote:
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I don't know if this post is to affirm me or rebut me, but it does indicate that at least someone (Josephus) acknowledged that Jesus did in fact live on Earth in human form (contrary to Michael's statement).
TTYL
Did someone like Jesus exist? Yes, many in the day.

Did someone named Jesus exist? Sure, if a devout Jewish couple decided to name their child using a Greek word.

Strange too how a god comes to earth and dies a horrific death in order to "save" all of mankind...

yet, an honest debate still rages on whether or not he even existed, yet alone was a god.

Then to confuse mankind even more, Jesus is a cookie-cutter god, with elements of the story straight from past god stories.

Today, this "savior of mankind" has eluded the majority of humans who have ever lived since his death.

Thankfully, you were born into the correct faith. Sorry, I have my doubts.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#537382 May 16, 2014
Michael wrote:
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Dan says Jews rejected Jesus.
.....Why was he born into the Jewish belief as the son of God if the belief he
worshiped his entire life didn't believe in him?
...If the romans thought of him as a rebel and a nutcase, why would the son of God appear as a rebel and nut case?
....The first few decades early christians never depicted this Christ as ever living in human form yet these early Jew/Christians all lived within the generation that all these events that the new testament describes.....miraculous birth, miracles for thousands, and his death and resurrection.
......remember socialism first started without a leader. The 99% movement that started in Manhattan 3 years ago has no leader..
.....Is it possible a few rogue Jews with agendas created this whole story and it exploded beyond their imagination?
Remember most of the characters, most of the stories in the NT are recorded no where else.
......something is terribly wrong!
Michael,

In rejecting Jesus as the Messiah, the chief priests and Pharisees fulfilled this prediction unknowingly.....

Psalm 118:22-25

22 The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;

23 the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.

24 The Lord has done it this very day;
let us rejoice today and be glad.

25 Lord, save us!
Lord, grant us success!
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#537383 May 16, 2014
By a figure of speech........we learn that Jesus Christ is called the chief cornerstone in God's new spiritual, living temple, composed of Christians all over the world.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#537384 May 16, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Yeah gimme the name of the Priest. I naturally would doubt any story you have.
And guest doubts that your Catholic favoritism is based on truth.

That is how the theologians in all religions pitted their followers against each other.

Had religion ended it's long journey at Judaism ... the Catholic and Protestant religions would not exist and it would have saved you and the poster guest a whole lot of right-fighting in defense of your personalized cults.

But ending the journey of religion won't end unless and until people wake up and take their selves out of religion.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#537385 May 16, 2014
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You are one to talk about being fair and balanced. ye who rarely leaves a quote in its proper context.
But, you of all users, should remember to keep things in context. Proper context has the Roman Catholics at this murdering and torturing machine for 1500 years longer than the Protestants.
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So, it will take another 1500 years before we can give Protestants equal time. And lest we forget, you gotta give some credit for doing evil to all those atheists out there, June. In fact, quite a few atheists have feigned religious affiliation for no other reason than for the express purpose of controlling the peons.
Thriller a good example of a godless man...Stalin and his crew, no pretense,, atheist, Pol Pot, and those,are just in the last century..
And we in our infiniie wisdomt, allow a bunch of godless folks to take GOD out of the public discussion in schools, on podiuma and out of the children's,hearts, so we can follow the other countries with no allegience to a SAVIOUR..belief in whom allowed for us to be a,great country..

Now EVERYTHING is spin , spin, lie and spin..and don't mention God...

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