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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 693339 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Feb 14

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#537473 May 16, 2014
Michael wrote:
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......Josephus wasnt born until 37 CE. 4 years after jesus is said to have died. He was not a contemporary historian...... BUSTED!
.........Josephus was a loyal Pharisaic Jew, could hardly have written this that he is the Christ.
... How could Josephus claim that Jesus had been the answer to his messianic hopes yet remain an orthodox Jew?......makes no sense!
The writings of Josephus were not kept in a public library or in a persons home...they were kept by the church and distributed. Therefore the churh could have made them say anything they wanted to.
........ There is no way he could have known about jesus from is own personal experience. At the most he could have recorded the activities of the new cult of Christianity and what they said about their crucified leader. Therefor he is not a credible source.
........The absurdity forces some apologists to make the ridiculous claim that Josephus was a closet Christian!
.....If Josephus really thought Jesus had been 'the Christ' surely he would have added more about him than one paragraph.
http://www.truthbeknown.com/josephus.htm
what you don't see is that Josephus was captured by the Roman Vaspasian ( Flavian) in around 70ad. He was captured when vaspasian " Defeated God" which is when the Jewish Religious Relics were captured also, Including Religious Scrolls, which Jocephus could have translated. The Romans controlled all and controlling what was written would not have been hard for them.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#537474 May 16, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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My father was raised as a Catholic by strict Catholic parents.
He was totally disillusioned, and the final break with the church was when he was told by a priest that those who were not Catholic would have to spend eternity in a fiery hell.
I'm thankful that he made that break with the church before I was born. Otherwise he might have dictated to me that I also would burn in hell if I wasn't of the Catholic religion.
Good for you and your father. Sarcasm intended.
hojo

Waconia, MN

#537475 May 16, 2014
Michael wrote:
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Hojo says;......Everyone of the authors of the bible was a sinner: Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said"I am the worst of sinners".
Michael says.....Aren't they good enough examples to stay away from or disbelieve such people?
I am sure you don't associate with murderers or adulterers.........OR DO YOU??
.....something is terribly wrong HOJO!
Keep looking in the mirror Michael --and IF you look long enough--you will "eventually" begin to "see the problem"!!
LTM

Pembroke, Canada

#537476 May 16, 2014
hojo wrote:
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"Equal time" for what!......You mean to keep spreading more and more man-made (18tht century) bible only deception and distortions by blatantly,mis-interpretating the TRUTH of the TRUE interpretation of the Bible by the Early Church Fathers (who WROTE IT) in 382, 393 and 397 AD!!!.......The fact is that 1000's and 1000's of bible only Protestants are "leaving" your contradicting, inconsistent and conflicting (man-made) denominations are are coming to (over) 2000 years of the historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.....The Catholic Church is the ONLY CHRISTIAN CHURCH that continues to grow world wide (each and every year) by over 1.5% while EVERY Protestant bible only denomination of 42,000+ continues to decline lose member (each and every year).
Hojo, it's not 42,00 it's 4,200 different religions. whatever the number it's a lot.
How many true born again believing Christ -followers in the world .
Jesus calls them little flock, which means not many. having billions protestants or Catholic
belong to a religion doesn't mean they all are Christ-followers they may believe in God but are they truly born again.
I know a lot of people Catholic's as well as protestant, go to church every Sunday, and curse God and the virgin Mary every Monday Morning.
So you got to separate the people who are just taking up space in the pew and people who really are 'GODS TRUE CHURCH" WHICH ISN'T CATHOLIC OR PROTESTANT.
LTM

Pembroke, Canada

#537477 May 16, 2014
hojo wrote:
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Keep looking in the mirror Michael --and IF you look long enough--you will "eventually" begin to "see the problem"!!
Keep looking in the mirror hojo --and IF you look long enough--you will "eventually" begin to "see the problem"!!
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#537478 May 16, 2014
YTubeNews wrote:
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1st BLOOD Moon (April 2014)--- ANTICHRIST (May)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =AJYz_gScisAXX
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That's awesome CIB!
Michael

Canada

#537479 May 16, 2014
Gods R Delusions x Mine wrote:
"It's puzzling why Paul, the founder of Christianity, who brought Jesus' teachings to the Gentiles, didn't tell us more about Jesus the man, since he was a contemporary of Jesus.
Paul, the Pharisee and student of the renowned Rabbi Gamaliel, was present at the stoning to death of Jesus' disciple Stephen (Acts 8:57-59), which occurred only two years after the crucifixion.
Even if Paul wasn't familiar with all the details of Jesus' life, surely the disciples would have been. Paul's three meetings in Jerusalem with Jesus' disciples, including Peter and Jesus' brother James, add nothing about Jesus life. Why does Paul, the champion of Jesus and his teachings, tell only Paul stories and no Jesus stories?"
Gods are says........why does Paul the champion of Jesus tell no stories about Jesus.

Michael says........probably because the gospel writers that wrote later on had not yet invented the stories of Jesus. Virgin birth, miracles etc.
Michael

Canada

#537480 May 16, 2014
hojo wrote:
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Keep looking in the mirror Michael --and IF you look long enough--you will "eventually" begin to "see the problem"!!
......why would you associate with murders and adulterers? Why don't you answer the question instead of your silly mirror games......again.

Michael

Canada

#537481 May 16, 2014
LTM wrote:
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Keep looking in the mirror hojo --and IF you look long enough--you will "eventually" begin to "see the problem"!!
(lol)!
LTM

Pembroke, Canada

#537482 May 16, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Good for you and your father. Sarcasm intended.
Didn't June claim to have been a catholic for a while??? Left the church in her 70's ??
Anthony MN

United States

#537483 May 16, 2014
LTM wrote:
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Didn't June claim to have been a catholic for a while??? Left the church in her 70's ??
No, she says was protestant. Who really cares what she says....
Country boy

Natrona Heights, PA

#537484 May 16, 2014
The Pope has no more access to Christ than I do.
The Pope or Bishops are not mentioned in the Bible.
The Pope is a sinner like we all are.
You people are crazy to idolize the Pope , it is wrong.It is a sin to do so.
The Bible is the only word. Nothing mentioned about the Catholics in the Bible. Christ is who we are to worship anyone or anything else is wrong and sinful.
Follow the Bible , not some man made doctrine...
You are wrong by being Catholic.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#537485 May 16, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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UH HUH!!!
Ramen has to stop the suffering of all forms of life in order to prove himself to me. And you know and I know that ain't gonna happen.
:)
June

Peace

God's R Delusions is a true atheist, and sometimes doesn't know it. He just wants you to believe him, if he believes it himself.

:)

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#537486 May 16, 2014
Michael wrote:
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Thats it out of millions?? two or three people wrote something that was handed down? We can all make up stories and hand them down.
......None of those were contemporary writers. Josephus was born 4 years after Jesus supposedly died. What would he know other than hand-me-down stories that grew bigger with each person who told them.
......I could write about the civil war. Would that make me an eyewitness or just handing down 3rd party information that might be embellished?
Catholics don't believe Jesus had brothers and sisters. They made them cousins because Mary became an ever virgin in their stories. Can't put square pegs into round holes.
someone post a list of contemporary writers outside the NT who witnessed or knew about the miraculous virgin birth, King Herod slaughtering all male infants, the money changer story, dozens of miracles performed for thousands of Jews and witnessed by thousands more, a group of people making the ultimate decision in killing this man, the sky darkening, an earthquake and the ground opening up and zombies coming out.
Walking on water, bringing dead people back to life, making a blind man see again!........no one saw anything yet there were thousands of witnesses? Not one hand me down story?
.... Was Jesus the son of God or a David Copperfield of his time?
..........
Its not wrong to question. If we don't question and only assume, we would never perceive or learn the truth.
However, had it been a MADE UP story would the passages about brothers and sisters exist??
A Messiah who died on A,Cross, disgraced ????
Seriously? And one not recognized as,real by priests?
Then He rises from the dead?????

Not believable ...pure fiction..UNLESS ITS TRUE ...FAITH MICHAEL .

Lot of other passages, so inconvenient for made up stories.

Your logic is,flawed..
KayMarie

Carlisle, PA

#537487 May 16, 2014
who="Anthony MN" ]<quoted text>
"Sola fide—the doctrine of justification by faith alone apart from works—is simply recognizing what is taught over and over in Scripture—that at some point in time God declares ungodly sinners righteous by imputing Christ’s righteousness to them (Romans 4:5, 5:8, 5:19)."
The problem with this is that no where in the bible does it teach we are justified by faith ALONE. In fact, St. James EXPLICITLY says we ARE NOT justified by faith alone. This is why Luther tried to remove the his epistle from scripture.

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It would be just as simple to say: "The reason I know that Catholicism is wrong, is because that no other religions agree with it!" LOL
Michael

Canada

#537488 May 16, 2014
RoSesz wrote:
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However, had it been a MADE UP story would the passages about brothers and sisters exist??
A Messiah who died on A,Cross, disgraced ????
Seriously? And one not recognized as,real by priests?
Then He rises from the dead?????
Not believable ...pure fiction..UNLESS ITS TRUE ...FAITH MICHAEL .
Lot of other passages, so inconvenient for made up stories.
Your logic is,flawed..
....If everything in our lives is predetermined why are we responsible for what others did?

...If God knew before that Adam and Eve would fail do you really feel responsible for anything that others did?

....If the small local crowd at the crucifixion had screamed Barabas instead of Jesus how would Christianity have ever started? Remember scriptures say it was the little crowd who had a 50/50 chance, the flip of a coin heads/tails, Jesus or Barabas. Right?

...,If Jesus died for our sins and Christians claim to be very serious about their faith in God why do they still commit billions of sins everyday then march into the confessional every few weeks to have their sin odometer reset to zero, and then start sinning again.

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...doesn't make sense.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#537489 May 16, 2014
Gods R Delusions x Mine wrote:
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OK, but at least we can agree that I am NOT crazy.
Right?
ramen
:o)
You can bet that those in religion believe we are both not only crazy but lead by the devil to boot!

Well, maybe not so much the Wiccans. Some of them welcome Atheists into their cults as not being at all offensive to the goddess.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#537490 May 16, 2014
KayMarie wrote:
who="Anthony MN" ]<quoted text>
"Sola fide—the doctrine of justification by faith alone apart from works—is simply recognizing what is taught over and over in Scripture—that at some point in time God declares ungodly sinners righteous by imputing Christ’s righteousness to them (Romans 4:5, 5:8, 5:19)."
The problem with this is that no where in the bible does it teach we are justified by faith ALONE. In fact, St. James EXPLICITLY says we ARE NOT justified by faith alone. This is why Luther tried to remove the his epistle from scripture.
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It would be just as simple to say: "The reason I know that Catholicism is wrong, is because that no other religions agree with it!" LOL
And then if you would have the same attitude towards your Protestant religion, you would be popping your own balloon and coming back to earth without your wing or a prayer.

The idea that place value on the haughty attitude of Martin Luther says more about you than you can even imagine.
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A History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

Luther’s theology

In a letter of June 1522, Martin Luther wrote:“I do not admit that my doctrine can be judged by anyone, even by the angels. One who does not receive my doctrine cannot come to salvation.”
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#537491 May 16, 2014
Michael wrote:
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....If everything in our lives is predetermined why are we responsible for what others did?
...If God knew before that Adam and Eve would fail do you really feel responsible for anything that others did?
....If the small local crowd at the crucifixion had screamed Barabas instead of Jesus how would Christianity have ever started? Remember scriptures say it was the little crowd who had a 50/50 chance, the flip of a coin heads/tails, Jesus or Barabas. Right?
...,If Jesus died for our sins and Christians claim to be very serious about their faith in God why do they still commit billions of sins everyday then march into the confessional every few weeks to have their sin odometer reset to zero, and then start sinning again.
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..
...doesn't make sense.
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They idolize the power they feel when they preach words that they claim are based on truth.

If their bibles were removed from their possession, they would have nothing left with which to preach, and that to them would mean being bankrupted from their delusions.

I suggest they would have withdrawal symptoms worse than any panic attack.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#537492 May 16, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> what you don't see is that Josephus was captured by the Roman Vaspasian ( Flavian) in around 70ad. He was captured when vaspasian " Defeated God" which is when the Jewish Religious Relics were captured also, Including Religious Scrolls, which Jocephus could have translated. The Romans controlled all and controlling what was written would not have been hard for them.
OH OH ... you are preaching religion.

Naughty naughty!

:)

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