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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 683480 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Michael

Canada

#528904 Apr 13, 2014
hojo wrote:
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Correction:------ From Michaels world wide "EDITORIAL" desk of distortied statistics, twisted facts, exaggeratted opinions and perverted anti-Catholic lies!!!!----Why don 't you find a new hobby like calf roping or bull-slinging----something that you already are experienced at doing!
......What distorted statistics?(lol). These statistics are from catholic conservative information sources. I have told you before check them out. If you are so smart about church statistics why don't you post them? You don't because you know I am right and it angers and frustrates you that dedicated catholicism in the west has run its course as every generation catholics become less religiously observant.

...,why don't you post to Liam and many other catholics on here? You don't because, your agenda is to name call, insult and criticize anyone not likce you.

...Why do catholics rarely post to you?

...Something is terribly wrong Hojo.
Michael

Canada

#528905 Apr 13, 2014
hojo wrote:
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Correction:------ From Michaels world wide "EDITORIAL" desk of distortied statistics, twisted facts, exaggeratted opinions and perverted anti-Catholic lies!!!!----Why don 't you find a new hobby like calf roping or bull-slinging----something that you already are experienced at doing!
...You refer to a religious group using a derogatory term for fundamentalists. Do you refer to ethnic people with derogatory names?

....You should be reported for using derogatory hateful comments, and you call yourself a child of God.

Unbelievable!

....
Michael

Canada

#528906 Apr 13, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> June, may I ask what your purpose is on here? your recruiting tactics need updated. you ain't nothing but miserable, and you're trying your damnest to get someone to buy into your BS! ain't you a little old for shyts and giggles?
...You have a choice. Read her posts, or ignore them. Its obvious for some reason, you read them, then get upset. Why?(lol)

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#528907 Apr 13, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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"What if they did NOT like priests..."
I used to not like brussel sprouts. Then my mother many years ago made them roasted in the oven with olive oil. Now they're one of my favorite vegetables.
I'd tell then to get over it and if they sincerely wanted to become a Christian they'd come with me to meet my priest. If they refused, I'd say go take your chances with the Lutherans and then come back and see me when you realize your mistake.
Religion..

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#528908 Apr 13, 2014
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
...You have a choice. Read her posts, or ignore them. Its obvious for some reason, you read them, then get upset. Why?(lol)
I like messing with her. she is comical for real..
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#528909 Apr 13, 2014
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Provide the name of one person who was saved twice.
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Where is the proof of your fathers salvation? Did you see his heart? Do you believe he was saved because he was a pastor? Nobody knows who is and who is not saved but God ONLY!

atemcowboy said, quote, "a few months later around 1:00, God woke me up and told me that He had not lied. a few hours later my mom came over and told me that dad was dead. when I walked over, he was kneeling beside the bed. and I preached one day about that, that God couldn't trust him so he took him away very quickly just as He did Samson. that is my testimony and it is True." End quote.

First, God cannot lie. Second, God does not trust any human being. Not even you pastor. Jeremiah 17:9, "“The heart is more deceitful than all else and is desperately sick; who can understand it?"

So apparently you believe your father was saved but loved beer more than God therefore he lost his salvation. Are you that ignorant? Ever human being loves something more than they love God. All of us. READ..........

Romans 3:9-20, "9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; 10 as it is written,“There is none righteous, not even one; 1 There is none who understands, There is none who seeks for God;
12 All have turned aside, together they have become useless; There is none who does good,
There is not even one.” 13 “Their throat is an open grave, With their tongues they keep deceiving,”“The poison of asps is under their lips”; 14 “Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness”; 15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood, 16 Destruction and misery are in their paths, 17 And the path of peace they have not known.” 18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” 19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20 because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin."

There is nothing we can do for God to love us more or love us less. Nothing!
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you kidding? You're a preacher? Self appointed I'm sure
Pastor? No, I never said I was a pastor. Thank you for asking, OldJG.
hojo

Waconia, MN

#528910 Apr 13, 2014
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
......What distorted statistics?(lol). These statistics are from catholic conservative information sources. I have told you before check them out. If you are so smart about church statistics why don't you post them? You don't because you know I am right and it angers and frustrates you that dedicated catholicism in the west has run its course as every generation catholics become less religiously observant.
...,why don't you post to Liam and many other catholics on here? You don't because, your agenda is to name call, insult and criticize anyone not likce you.
...Why do catholics rarely post to you?
...Something is terribly wrong Hojo.
Every Catholic on this forum knows, as well as I do that these "statistics" you post are from " liberal Catholic sources" that are predicated upon "selected telephone surveys" that are (manipulated, squewed and twisted) to arrive at the EXACT Conclusions that these "hack pollsters" want to arrive at......I/we as Catholics ALL know that you anti--Catholics ALL have an "agenda" Michael---and your
agnostic "fettish vengeance" against the faith of Catholics, Jesus Christ and His Church with your manipulated statistics keeps your hostility and hatred "heated up" on a daily basis. AGAIN--- I have "no intension" as a former Bible only Protestant to remain "passive" while
people like you attack, rip, insult, name call, and criticize our Catholic Faith----just because YOU and other anti-catholic bashers have "nothing better to do each day" that (sprew you hatred against Jesus Christs One a True Cstholic Church!!!---Also, it makes "no difference to me" whether Liam or any other Cathoilcs post to me or not! We are ALL brothers and sisters in Christ, unified in the TRUE doctrine and TRUE faith of Jesus Christ and in His Catholic Church and THAT is all that matters!!!
Michael

Canada

#528911 Apr 13, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> I like messing with her. she is comical for real..
...Insults, and name calling don't phase her. She has her opinion about religion just like everyone else.

........ If someone had the smoking gun of truth we would all join that belief, but what we have is a hodge podge of family hand me down tradional beliefs to become what mom and dad wanted us to become......just like them! and everyone of these many hand me down beliefs instills into its members that theirs is the right and only one.

.....I was indoctrinated into the catholic faith. As most indoctrinated catholics today, I am no longer a practicing catholic.
Michael

Canada

#528912 Apr 13, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Every Catholic on this forum knows, as well as I do that these "statistics" you post are from " liberal Catholic sources" that are predicated upon "selected telephone surveys" that are (manipulated, squewed and twisted) to arrive at the EXACT Conclusions that these "hack pollsters" want to arrive at......I/we as Catholics ALL know that you anti--Catholics ALL have an "agenda" Michael---and your
agnostic "fettish vengeance" against the faith of Catholics, Jesus Christ and His Church with your manipulated statistics keeps your hostility and hatred "heated up" on a daily basis. AGAIN--- I have "no intension" as a former Bible only Protestant to remain "passive" while
people like you attack, rip, insult, name call, and criticize our Catholic Faith----just because YOU and other anti-catholic bashers have "nothing better to do each day" that (sprew you hatred against Jesus Christs One a True Cstholic Church!!!---Also, it makes "no difference to me" whether Liam or any other Cathoilcs post to me or not! We are ALL brothers and sisters in Christ, unified in the TRUE doctrine and TRUE faith of Jesus Christ and in His Catholic Church and THAT is all that matters!!!
....Give us your statistics Mr smarty-pants? You don't because the numbers are so low you are embarrassed to.

.....Tell us how many priests in 1965 in america, how many priests today? How many nuns, how many catholic students, how many catholic schools, how many deacons, percentage of practicing catholics.

.....Come on give us the numbers that you say are diiferent.........

.....I knew it!!! Silence!

.....Your just a phony! because you have nothing to back up your phony wild claims.

Unbelievable!

.
Michael

Canada

#528913 Apr 13, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Every Catholic on this forum knows, as well as I do that these "statistics" you post are from " liberal Catholic sources" that are predicated upon "selected telephone surveys" that are (manipulated, squewed and twisted) to arrive at the EXACT Conclusions that these "hack pollsters" want to arrive at......I/we as Catholics ALL know that you anti--Catholics ALL have an "agenda" Michael---and your
agnostic "fettish vengeance" against the faith of Catholics, Jesus Christ and His Church with your manipulated statistics keeps your hostility and hatred "heated up" on a daily basis. AGAIN--- I have "no intension" as a former Bible only Protestant to remain "passive" while
people like you attack, rip, insult, name call, and criticize our Catholic Faith----just because YOU and other anti-catholic bashers have "nothing better to do each day" that (sprew you hatred against Jesus Christs One a True Cstholic Church!!!---Also, it makes "no difference to me" whether Liam or any other Cathoilcs post to me or not! We are ALL brothers and sisters in Christ, unified in the TRUE doctrine and TRUE faith of Jesus Christ and in His Catholic Church and THAT is all that matters!!!
...None of them post to you because they know you are a loose canon, and they don't like you.
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#528914 Apr 13, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
Yes, that's a change in "understanding" from 500 to 800 years ago.

However one plays the rhetoric game today, Protestants can now be saved, even after rejecting the CC.

"... knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary... "

What about the millions in Europe who used to "know it," but changed their minds after two World Wars and most recently, the sex abuse crisis?

Or is the CC god like the Born-Again god -- whereby a relatively few humans actually get saved, while the majority of god's creation gets tortured for eternity?

What a strange "loving" god that would be, lol.

In fact, according to the RCC's own statistics, most Catholics don't jump through the RCC hoops every week, so most Catholics go to Hell too.

So 2000 years later, with so few being "saved" per traditional and ancient Church ground rules, did the RCC god fail, or did the RCC fail god?
Michael

Canada

#528915 Apr 13, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Correction:------ From Michaels world wide "EDITORIAL" desk of distortied statistics, twisted facts, exaggeratted opinions and perverted anti-Catholic lies!!!!----Why don 't you find a new hobby like calf roping or bull-slinging----something that you already are experienced at doing!
....CARA....Center for applied research in the catholic Apostate.
.....Cara is committed to acquiring the most up to date and accurate information of the behavior of roman catholics.
...Cara is the national leader in surveying catholics in the USA.
...Cara provides catholic parishes probably including yours the tools necessary to survey catholics in the pews.
.....Cara does not give wild estimates they give exact number totals for each catholic category they research.
.......Enough of your phony Bologna!
Michael

Canada

#528916 Apr 13, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Every Catholic on this forum knows, as well as I do that these "statistics" you post are from " liberal Catholic sources" that are predicated upon "selected telephone surveys" that are (manipulated, squewed and twisted) to arrive at the EXACT Conclusions that these "hack pollsters" want to arrive at......I/we as Catholics ALL know that you anti--Catholics ALL have an "agenda" Michael---and your
agnostic "fettish vengeance" against the faith of Catholics, Jesus Christ and His Church with your manipulated statistics keeps your hostility and hatred "heated up" on a daily basis. AGAIN--- I have "no intension" as a former Bible only Protestant to remain "passive" while
people like you attack, rip, insult, name call, and criticize our Catholic Faith----just because YOU and other anti-catholic bashers have "nothing better to do each day" that (sprew you hatred against Jesus Christs One a True Cstholic Church!!!---Also, it makes "no difference to me" whether Liam or any other Cathoilcs post to me or not! We are ALL brothers and sisters in Christ, unified in the TRUE doctrine and TRUE faith of Jesus Christ and in His Catholic Church and THAT is all that matters!!!
....Are you stating that CARA is a liberal hack giving inaccurate information?

......Center for applied research in the catholic Apostate....

....and your ghost statistics are right
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#528917 Apr 13, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> I like messing with her. she is comical for real..
Who is messing with whom? Why do you keep asking why she is here?

Seems like "grams" gets under your thin skin.

If your god made an ounce of sense, maybe you wouldn't get so edgy?

Come to the lite of the MORAL GOD.

Ramen

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#528918 Apr 13, 2014
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
...Insults, and name calling don't phase her. She has her opinion about religion just like everyone else.
........ If someone had the smoking gun of truth we would all join that belief, but what we have is a hodge podge of family hand me down tradional beliefs to become what mom and dad wanted us to become......just like them! and everyone of these many hand me down beliefs instills into its members that theirs is the right and only one.
.....I was indoctrinated into the catholic faith. As most indoctrinated catholics today, I am no longer a practicing catholic.
Truth is what self wants it to be. surely your truth would be better than what any religion could tell you? you mean you were a practicing liar, as that's what the rcc is. I don't really care what phases her or you for that matter. my opinion is worth just as much as yours, or hers..to thine own self be true bud..
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#528919 Apr 13, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> June, may I ask what your purpose is on here? your recruiting tactics need updated. you ain't nothing but miserable, and you're trying your damnest to get someone to buy into your BS! ain't you a little old for shyts and giggles?
Whaaaaa? June's "recruiting tactics?"

You write that she's "nothing but miserable" and "a little old for shyts and giigles?"

From that post, it sounds like she owns you.

Where's your faith? Where's the LOVE that your god supposedly teaches?

Nowhere, because your god is a delusion and you are admitting it to June in every post.

Go Junith, you "miserable" "old" lady :o)
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#528920 Apr 13, 2014
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
....Give us your statistics Mr smarty-pants? You don't because the numbers are so low you are embarrassed to.
.....Tell us how many priests in 1965 in america, how many priests today? How many nuns, how many catholic students, how many catholic schools, how many deacons, percentage of practicing catholics.
.....Come on give us the numbers that you say are diiferent.........
.....I knew it!!! Silence!
.....Your just a phony! because you have nothing to back up your phony wild claims.
Unbelievable!
.
Why are you so much more concerned about Catholic numbers in the western societies than Catholics are? As an atheist/agnostic, why would you spend so much time attacking Catholics and rarely protestants? You have an agenda. I think you resent people who aren't as weak as you and haven't succumb to the worldly secular culture like you. I don't think your life is as pleasant as you make it out to be here Mike. I think you're a phony hiding behind something. What are you hiding Mike?
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#528921 Apr 13, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Truth is what self wants it to be. surely your truth would be better than what any religion could tell you? you mean you were a practicing liar, as that's what the rcc is. I don't really care what phases her or you for that matter. my opinion is worth just as much as yours, or hers..to thine own self be true bud..
Another post oozing with anger, certainly NOT the LOVE that Jesus taught.

Come to the lite.

Ramen
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#528922 Apr 13, 2014
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Religion..
You're part of religion too. Except your religion is "I let the protestants convince me that it's "the bible, the Holy Spirit and me"". Sorry Rose, that's not what Christ founded. He founded the Church.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#528923 Apr 13, 2014
Gods R Delusions x Mine wrote:
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Yes, that's a change in "understanding" from 500 to 800 years ago.
However one plays the rhetoric game today, Protestants can now be saved, even after rejecting the CC.
"... knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary... "
What about the millions in Europe who used to "know it," but changed their minds after two World Wars and most recently, the sex abuse crisis?
Or is the CC god like the Born-Again god -- whereby a relatively few humans actually get saved, while the majority of god's creation gets tortured for eternity?
What a strange "loving" god that would be, lol.
In fact, according to the RCC's own statistics, most Catholics don't jump through the RCC hoops every week, so most Catholics go to Hell too.
So 2000 years later, with so few being "saved" per traditional and ancient Church ground rules, did the RCC god fail, or did the RCC fail god?
500-800 years ago the was only one Christian Church in the west. If you were a Christian, you were Catholic. Since the protestants came from us, we cannot deny they possess some elements of truth which they took away with them. Another way to look at it; your son is still your son, even if he rejects you and moves away.

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