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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 687233 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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OldJG

Rockford, IL

#511382 Feb 2, 2014
Husker wrote:
<quoted text>Well we are, history says so, read a history book for a change. And you can't possibly know enough about your religion, You already made several mistakes about your religion on here. You are a protestant and you are just orthodox in name only.
Hey, go say a prayer to dead Mary. Maybe she will show up in your living room....you know one of those fatima deals. Maybe she will show up and tell you how she bossed her son around at a wedding and He told her to shut her mouth because it was not His time yet. Just sayin'

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#511383 Feb 2, 2014
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
:'(
You must have hit the booze before the game.
Here's a prayer: Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among woman and blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
Holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
Just like Cana, Mary can bring our request to Jesus.
Its a shame you don't believe the Sacred Inspired, infallible, Word of God!!!!

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#511384 Feb 2, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not discuss nor debate with anti-catholic bible only heretics who are "proven , to be habitual liars and a manipulator of the TRUE interpretation of the bible and TRUE Church history. You Ox have proven yourself to be a fraud and a distorter of the Truth, over and over again by "every .Catholic on this form including the overwhelming vast majority of your own bible only Protestant (self opinionated editorialists). There is "nothing to discuss"! Go argue in the mirror with yourself!!!!!!!!
You don't discuss anything with anybody with the exception of yourself. Do you look in a mirror and tell yourself how wonderful it is to be a Roman Catholic with absolutely no Bible knowledge and maybe, and I mean maybe, ONE ACTIVE brain cell. The one thing you do have is one of those repeat buttons you push and out comes the Roman garbage.
LTM

Longlac, Canada

#511385 Feb 2, 2014
8Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
9Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

1 Peter 3:8-9 (KJV)

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This Evening's Meditation
C. H. Spurgeon

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"And these are ancient things."—1 Chronicles 4:22.
ET not so ancient as those precious things which are the delight of our souls. Let us for a moment recount them, telling them over as misers count their gold. The sovereign choice of the Father, by which He elected us unto eternal life, or ever the earth was, is a matter of vast antiquity, since no date can be conceived for it by the mind of man. We were chosen from before the foundations of the world. Everlasting love went with the choice, for it was not a bare act of divine will by which we were set apart, but the divine affections were concerned. The Father loved us in and from the beginning. Here is a theme for daily contemplation. The eternal purpose to redeem us from our foreseen ruin, to cleanse and sanctify us, and at last to glorify us, was of infinite antiquity, and runs side by side with immutable love and absolute sovereignty. The covenant is always described as being everlasting, and Jesus, the second party in it, had His goings forth of old; He struck hands in sacred suretyship long ere the first of the stars began to shine, and it was in Him that the elect were ordained unto eternal life. Thus in the divine purpose a most blessed covenant union was established between the Son of God and His elect people, which will remain as the foundation of their safety when time shall be no more. Is it not well to be conversant with these ancient things? Is it not shameful that they should be so much neglected and even rejected by the bulk of professors? If they knew more of their own sin, would they not be more ready to adore distinguishing grace? Let us both admire and adore tonight, as we sing—

"A monument of grace,
A sinner saved by blood;
The streams of love I trace
Up to the Fountain, God;
And in His sacred bosom see
Eternal thoughts of Love to me."
Michael

Canada

#511386 Feb 2, 2014
hojo wrote:
Jesus One True Church has always been Catholic
The term "catholic" simply means "universal," and when employing it in those early days, St. Ignatius of Antioch and St. Polycarp of Smyrna were referring to the Church that was already "everywhere," as distinguished from whatever sects, schisms or splinter groups might have grown up here and there, in opposition to the Catholic Church.
The term was already understood even then to be an especially fitting name because the Catholic Church was Universal and for everyone, not just for adepts, enthusiasts or the specially initiated who might have been attracted to her.
Again, it was already understood that the Church was "catholic" because -- to adopt a modern expression -- she possessed the fullness of the means of salvation. She also was destined to be "universal" in time as well as in space, and it was to her that applied the promise of Christ to Peter and the other apostles that "the powers of death shall not prevail" against her (Mt 16:18).
The Catechism of the Catholic Church in our own day has concisely summed up all the reasons why the name of the Church of Christ has been the Catholic Church: "The Church is catholic," the Catechism teaches, "[because] she proclaims the fullness of the faith. She bears in herself and administers the totality of the means of salvation. She is sent out to all peoples. She speaks to all men. She encompasses all times. She is 'missionary of her very nature'" (no. 868).
So the name became attached to her for good. By the time of the first ecumenical council of the Church, held at Nicaea in Asia Minor in the year 325 A.D., the bishops of that council were legislating quite naturally in the name of the universal body they called in the Council of Nicaea's official documents "the Catholic Church." As most people know, it was that same council which formulated the basic Creed in which the term "catholic" was retained as one of the four marks of the true Church of Christ. And it is the same name which is to be found in all 16 documents of the twenty-first ecumenical council of the Church, Vatican Council II.
It was still back in the fourth century that St. Cyril of Jerusalem aptly wrote, "Inquire not simply where the Lord's house is, for the sects of the profane also make an attempt to call their own dens the houses of the Lord; nor inquire merely where the church is, but where the Catholic Church is. For this is the peculiar name of this Holy Body, the Mother of all, which is the Spouse of Our Lord Jesus Christ" (Catecheses, xviii, 26).
The same inquiry needs to be made in exactly the same way today, for the name of the true Church of Christ has in no way been changed. It was inevitable that the Catechism of the Catholic Church would adopt the same name today that the Church has had throughout the whole of her very long history.
Let's study the FACTS!

..... 70 million baptized catholics in america. 321 million Americans. Most are cradle catholics. They didn't find the faith as you are preaching it, they were born into it, to carry on the family heritage

..........American bishops claim only 1 in 4 catholics today attend basic requirement, Sunday mass weekly. Thats only 17 million Sunday mass attenders, and only just over 1% of roman catholics are interested enough to receive the Eucharist daily.

.....Who are these great multitudes you are preaching to on this forum?

1%,........1%,........1%,..... ..1%,........1%....daily mass attenders

I bring the COLD hard facts.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#511387 Feb 2, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not discuss nor debate with anti-catholic bible only heretics who are "proven , to be habitual liars and a manipulator of the TRUE interpretation of the bible and TRUE Church history. You Ox have proven yourself to be a fraud and a distorter of the Truth, over and over again by "every .Catholic on this form including the overwhelming vast majority of your own bible only Protestant (self opinionated editorialists). There is "nothing to discuss"! Go argue in the mirror with yourself!!!!!!!!
Well heavens to Betsy!!!! You said a few words that are true....beyond reproof!!!! "There is nothing to discuss".....because:

The truth in Scripture is undeniable.....you are a liar...Christ built not your denomination....

You will not respond to the Scripture I quoted...because to do so will verify my words....

Christ referred not to the Catholic church in Rev...because it did not exist as you say....

You will not answer my question....."Whom built the churches" shown in Scripture...multiple times...
Michael

Canada

#511388 Feb 2, 2014
Husker wrote:
<quoted text>Christ is God, Cghrist founded the Catholic Church.
No he didn't. Its just folklore.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#511389 Feb 2, 2014
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, go say a prayer to dead Mary. Maybe she will show up in your living room....you know one of those fatima deals. Maybe she will show up and tell you how she bossed her son around at a wedding and He told her to shut her mouth because it was not His time yet. Just sayin'
That only happens to the Eastern Orthodox.
LTM

Longlac, Canada

#511390 Feb 2, 2014
Guidance Needed
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Exodus 29-30; Matthew 21:23-46St. Nicholas Church in Galway, Ireland, has both a long history and an active present. It’s the oldest church in Ireland, and it provides guidance in a very practical way. The church towers over the town, and its steeple is used by ships’ captains as a guide for navigating their way safely into Galway Bay. For centuries, this church has reliably pointed the way home for sailors.

We can all certainly identify with the need for guidance. In fact, Jesus addressed this very need during His Upper Room Discourse. He said that after His departure the Holy Spirit would play a crucial role in the lives of believers. As part of that role, Jesus promised,“When He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth”(John 16:13).

What a marvelous provision! In a world of confusion and fear, guidance is often needed. We can easily be misdirected by the culture around us or by the brokenness within us (1 John 2:15-17). God’s Spirit, however, is here to help, to direct, and to guide. How thankful we can be that the Spirit of truth has come to give us the guidance that we often so desperately need. Set your course by His life, and you will reach safe harbor.

Guide me, O Thou great Jehovah,Pilgrim through this barren land.I am weak, but Thou art mighty;Hold me with Thy powerful hand.—WilliamsThe Spirit is a reliable guide in all of life’s seas.
sava

Hawthorn, Australia

#511391 Feb 2, 2014
keltec 9mm wrote:
Like one of his predecessors he'll soon be announcing his support for the "final solution" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
..........
Germany of course was a Protestant nation.
Hitler was elected by a Protestant majority and a Catholic minority.
hitlers power base was in bavaria and austria.......the catholic heart of germany
Michael

Canada

#511392 Feb 2, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not discuss nor debate with anti-catholic bible only heretics who are "proven , to be habitual liars and a manipulator of the TRUE interpretation of the bible and TRUE Church history. You Ox have proven yourself to be a fraud and a distorter of the Truth, over and over again by "every .Catholic on this form including the overwhelming vast majority of your own bible only Protestant (self opinionated editorialists). There is "nothing to discuss"! Go argue in the mirror with yourself!!!!!!!!
...Its all made up. Sorry for the bad news.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#511393 Feb 2, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not discuss nor debate with anti-catholic bible only heretics who are "proven , to be habitual liars and a manipulator of the TRUE interpretation of the bible and TRUE Church history. You Ox have proven yourself to be a fraud and a distorter of the Truth, over and over again by "every .Catholic on this form including the overwhelming vast majority of your own bible only Protestant (self opinionated editorialists). There is "nothing to discuss"! Go argue in the mirror with yourself!!!!!!!!
hojo said, quote, "I do not discuss nor debate with anti-catholic bible only heretics who are "proven , to be habitual liars and a manipulator of the TRUE interpretation of the bible and TRUE Church history." End quote.

You think a debate is "de bait" used by fishermen. Duh! You brag about converting from Christianity to Roman Catholic. The Christian community is thankful and blessed you are gone. Question? Are you a priest in the Roman Catholic church out there sodomizing little boys? Just sayin'
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#511394 Feb 2, 2014
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks for the catholic link on the history of the orthodox church. I sent it to some of my orthodox friends for their opinions
I found this interesting: Although there was an east- west schism, not all eastern Churches sided with the Orthodox Churches. And some came back into communion with the Bishop of Rome at a later date as the reality of the schism hit home.
Maronite Catholics, patriarch is in Antioch, liturgy in Aramaic never split from Rome despite the pressure.
Syriac Catholics came back to the Bishop of Rome in 1781 AD.
Coptic, Egyptian Catholics returned in 1781
Ethiopian Catholics in 1846
Syro- maladese Catholics (originally founded by Thomas the Apostle) came back in the 16th century.
While most Armenian Christians are Orthodox, there are approximately 350,000 Armenians who returned around the 14th century.

www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/catholic_rites_an...

So in a way, the schism has been unraveling since it started. Now with the globalization of Orthodoxy, Muslims no longer block our communications. I think this is the key to dialogue.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#511395 Feb 2, 2014
Husker wrote:
<quoted text>You are busted. People are leaving because of the secular society we have. More so in the protestant churches. BUT not in my Diocese, not as much, we have a great Bishop and we have great priests.
Husker said, quote, "BUT not in my Diocese, not as much, we have a great Bishop and we have great priests." End quote.

You have a great bishop and great priests. Just wondering, how close you are to them? Do you visit them routinely for, ya know, that thing the bishops and priests are famous for in the confessional booth and on the pews? Just sayin'
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#511396 Feb 2, 2014
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, go say a prayer to dead Mary. Maybe she will show up in your living room....you know one of those fatima deals. Maybe she will show up and tell you how she bossed her son around at a wedding and He told her to shut her mouth because it was not His time yet. Just sayin'
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
That only happens to the Eastern Orthodox.
Another Roman from Minnesota. Ya know Dust Storm, only two things come out of Minnesota. Steer and queers. I have never heard you moo. Do you moo for your priest in confession or do you just smile? Just sayin'
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#511397 Feb 2, 2014
51% of Americans are Protestants, while about 24% are Roman Catholic.

How many Roman Catholic Presidents have served this country? Just sayin'
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#511398 Feb 2, 2014
OldJG wrote:
Another Roman from Minnesota. Ya know Dust Storm, only two things come out of Minnesota. Steer and queers. I have never heard you moo. Do you moo for your priest in confession or do you just smile? Just sayin'
This from a guy who apparently thinks he's a deacon because the grand wizard of the
Klu Klux Klan ordained him.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#511399 Feb 2, 2014
Adolph Hitler was a devout Roman Catholic. I bet you Romans are just busting your buttons over that one. LOL LOL

http://www.remnantofgod.org/NaziRCC.htm
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#511400 Feb 2, 2014
OldJG wrote:
Another Roman from Minnesota. Ya know Dust Storm, only two things come out of Minnesota. Steer and queers. I have never heard you moo. Do you moo for your priest in confession or do you just smile? Just sayin'
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
This from a guy who apparently thinks he's a deacon because the grand wizard of the
Klu Klux Klan ordained him.
Hey cly, I saw your priest at the KKK meeting. He told me your name was changed by your savior the blessed mary to Ben Dover. Is that your name or is that what you do for your priest in the confessional? Just sayin'
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#511401 Feb 2, 2014
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Since have have never brought anything of value to this forum I think I will get my Barbie dolls and go home.....Ask any Orthodox Priest and they will tell you that the Orthodox church is the True Church that Christ started....ask them....
I will help you pack.:) Why would I want to ask a priest what it is so obvious? Did I say the Orthodox church was not valid? NO The response was to the typical knee jerk response which claimed their was an arrogant statement made by a Priest, which was simply putting forth the facts. Facts which are acknowledged by the Patriarchs of your churches, but not you. James Likoudis made mention of this and you did your clown dance and summarily decided that Metropolitan Phillip is a joke and tried to belittle very unsuccessfully Likoudis.

So I posted an article from another Orthodox addressing issues in detail. These are real issues being addressed by an Orthodox and is not to belittle the Orthodox church to make the point that the statement made was somehow arrogant or even remotely untrue. However it is clear that the problems are growing worse amongs the Orthodox and time isnt going to make it go away. Your Patriarchs, Bishops, Priests and laity are so busy being equal that everybody is right. Sounds like the SBC with autonomous churches. If the indiscriminate college of Bishops is the true faith, then we would be Arians if the Eastern model is followed where the vast majority of Eastern Bishops succumbed to. With no source of unity and first among equals a meaningless title with zero authority each claiming ceasar popism over another. So which Orthodox are really Orthodox? It depends on which one you ask unless one is indifferent which was being addressed by the Orthodox in the article.

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