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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 699302 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505454 Jan 11, 2014
Robert F,... being an Atheist for a very brief time ... "I can't take it any longer. I have to preach how wonderful I am, and my Catholic religion gives me that BOOST.

"I am Robert. I am Catholic. I am saved" I understand the workings of the universe. I will never be anything but a servant to God, as I shun the devil at every turn. I vow, I will not return again to Atheism, as it never gave me the HIGHS that I am sure to receive from my religion. Amen and Amen and Amen! Praise God who is wise enough to see how wonderful I am in all my glory. My angel-wings are growing as I preach."
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505455 Jan 11, 2014
Song Robert F sings to self.

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day.
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.

Read more: Davis Mac - Oh Lord It's Hard To Be Humble Lyrics | MetroLyrics
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505456 Jan 11, 2014
socci wrote:
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The Christians did not own slaves,
Forest G. Wood is the author of “The Arrogance of Faith.”

In the end, Madeleine Hooke Rice wrote in her study on Catholicism and slavery, Catholic slaveholders “did not differ from owners of other creeds nor were they actuated by any loftier motives.” The preponderant factor was their status as masters, not their status as Christians.

There was also an incriminating dimension to this situation that did not obtain in the Protestant churches. The institutional ownership of a slave meant that a priest held his bondsmen, at least theoretically, at the pleasure of the hierarchy. Moreover, Catholic laymen could hold slaves only with the church’s toleration. But forthrightness was never a Christian virtue.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#505457 Jan 11, 2014
Gods R Delusions but Mine wrote:
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Another apologist KJV
http://www.kjvtoday.com/home/40000-or-4000-in...
The only way to address this would be through the original Hebrew translations. No doubt the original meanings have been skewed.
It's interesting that no one here would think to do research from a Jewish perspective.
That is, if one really cared about the truth, rather than simply defending a pre-determined conclusion.
Gods R Delusions

Peace

I think the KJV has had a pretty good run. Of course it was a take-off of the Douay-Rheims, the RC version of the time. And I think it is well liked because of its classical English.

Interpreting words, and phrases from ancient languages has obvious difficulties. And I know there are some who would believe that not one dot or letter is out of place in their Bibles.

I use various Bibles, and if I need to get down to a single word, or phrase, I generally go to
Biblehub.com . I think it is an excellent resource.

http://biblehub.com/
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505458 Jan 11, 2014
This is why so many Catholics left the Catholic church to become Lutherans.

I suggest it had nothing in common with a god whispering in Luther's ear.
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From the book, Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven … Uta Ranke-Heinemann

The Evolution of Celibacy.

In 1542 when the papal nuncio Morone called Archbishop Albrecht of Brandenburg’s attention to the urgency of celibacy, the archbishop said:“I know that all my priests are living in concubinage. But what should I do to stop it? If I forbid them concubinage, they either want to have wives or become Lutherans”(cf. Morone’s letter to Cardinal Farnese, Monumenta Vaticana, edited by H. Laemmer, 1861, p. 412).

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#505459 Jan 11, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
Robert F,... being an Atheist for a very brief time ... "I can't take it any longer. I have to preach how wonderful I am, and my Catholic religion gives me that BOOST.
"I am Robert. I am Catholic. I am saved" I understand the workings of the universe. I will never be anything but a servant to God, as I shun the devil at every turn. I vow, I will not return again to Atheism, as it never gave me the HIGHS that I am sure to receive from my religion. Amen and Amen and Amen! Praise God who is wise enough to see how wonderful I am in all my glory. My angel-wings are growing as I preach."
June

Substitute Christian for Catholic. That would make me more comfortable...(smiles)

Are you being sardonic, or sarcastic?

Sorry I don't know. But I sure like to hear you praise God, with hearty Amens!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505460 Jan 11, 2014
Luther knew he had a good thing going when he preached that "God" wanted him to marry his ex-nun.
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From the book, Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven … Uta Ranke-Heinemann

The Evolution of Celibacy.

As for the priests in Germany, in 1525 the Mainz canon Karl von Bodmann noted an "almost unbelievable increase of licentiousness among the German clergy since proclamation of the new, so-called Gospel [of Luther]." The Augustinian monk had taken the problem of clerical marriage in hand; and the effect of his assaults on celibacy and monastic vows was so enormous that a wave of marrying swept over the whole clergy, as well as the monks and nuns. The first Reformers, with the exception of Melanchthon (d. 1560), were all priests. Even the famous humanist and priest Erasmus of Rotterdam (d. 1536), the second son of a priest and a physician's daughter, came down on the side of "tranforming concubines into wives" (De conscribendis episcopis 47).

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#505461 Jan 11, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
Song Robert F sings to self.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day.
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
Read more: Davis Mac - Oh Lord It's Hard To Be Humble Lyrics | MetroLyrics
June

Hmmm. And I thought you didn't like any music at all!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505462 Jan 11, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Gods R Delusions
Peace
I think the KJV has had a pretty good run. Of course it was a take-off of the Douay-Rheims, the RC version of the time. And I think it is well liked because of its classical English.
Interpreting words, and phrases from ancient languages has obvious difficulties. And I know there are some who would believe that not one dot or letter is out of place in their Bibles.
I use various Bibles, and if I need to get down to a single word, or phrase, I generally go to
Biblehub.com . I think it is an excellent resource.
http://biblehub.com/
Robert ... you don't need a bible in order to preach. The problem for you would be ... without a bible, people might suspect you of being a braggart with no more foundation than a balloon filled with helium.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#505463 Jan 11, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
Male theologians in all religions created saviors in their own images.
I suggest that that is why there was never a female-savior anywhere in the teachings of ancient religions.
I'll take "who was Hathor" for $100 June.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505464 Jan 11, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
June
Hmmm. And I thought you didn't like any music at all!
The end of all religion, including your FANCY, would be the best music to my ears.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505465 Jan 11, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Substitute Christian for Catholic. That would make me more comfortable...(smiles)
I have no doubt you are serious. You were a Protestant at one time ... in case you didn't remember.

Catholicism feeds your supreme arrogance to a capital T!

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505466 Jan 11, 2014
The first Catholic "cough-cough" reformers that joined the Protestant religion because they also wanted to get married, were ex-Catholic PRIESTS.

And that means that those priest took up arms to fight the powerful Catholic military.
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From the book, Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven … Uta Ranke-Heinemann

The Evolution of Celibacy.

The first Reformers, with the exception of Melanchthon (d. 1560), were all priests.
Beelzebubba Troll

Cantonment, FL

#505467 Jan 11, 2014
Oooohhh, I'm all widdershins & quivering!

My Mythological Morphological Mysticism is showing!!

Time Stands Still! Worlds Tremble!

* a fart rings out*

"All of Time & Space A Cosmic Joke!", declares the Rabbuncible Pope, brandishing a spork filled with speared lobster & pork, and laughing @ Jewish Muslims whose lips are stained with spicy Hindi Curry & eyes are livid with fury @ his dietary blasphemy!

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#505468 Jan 11, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
As much as you would like me to believe that I come up short to you and Mother Teresa ... I don't agree.
I suggest that I would have used the money for feeding the starving people rather than using the money to build Catholic convents to please the pope.
First, whether you measure up to me is something you invented.

Why do you think that is?

As to measuring up to the nun, I think your choice of words sums it up: "I would have".

Point is, you didn't.

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#505469 Jan 11, 2014
If the Catholic church could remove the graven images (Jesus, the saints, angels), the pagan rituals (communion, exorcism), the false prophets (popes and priests), the worship of idols (rosaries, crucifixes, statues), the worship of other gods (Mary, Jesus, St. Michael, St. Nicholas), and the concept that God "died", then and only then will they realize that the entire practice was not consistent with the revealed nature of God; that it was a distortion of truths along with a power structure that kept it as such; that it claimed to be as exalted of an authority AS God; and also has led many down a path away from the proper practices of worshipping the Most High!!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505470 Jan 11, 2014
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
If the Catholic church could remove the graven images (Jesus, the saints, angels), the pagan rituals (communion, exorcism), the false prophets (popes and priests), the worship of idols (rosaries, crucifixes, statues), the worship of other gods (Mary, Jesus, St. Michael, St. Nicholas), and the concept that God "died", then and only then will they realize that the entire practice was not consistent with the revealed nature of God; that it was a distortion of truths along with a power structure that kept it as such; that it claimed to be as exalted of an authority AS God; and also has led many down a path away from the proper practices of worshipping the Most High!!!
Most High ... as in pile of your own manure that you preach as being based on the only truth in the universe.

Preachers all use the same RUSE in order to fill their mental cups with self-aggrandizing sermons.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505471 Jan 11, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
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First, whether you measure up to me is something you invented.
Why do you think that is?
As to measuring up to the nun, I think your choice of words sums it up: "I would have".
Point is, you didn't.
If you view Mother Teresa starving the babies, children and adults as being HOLY ... that is because you were trained by your church to PROTECT all people, dogmas and icons that are Catholic.

I suggest that by starving humans, to use the money that was meant to feed the starving humans, to in turn build more convents, Mother Teresa was actually a serial killer.

She no-doubt didn't see it that way as she idolized other people's suffering as being holy ... but that is the way I see the issue.

And when Mother Teresa's turn came to die, she didn't die of starvation with her supposed beloved starving ones ... she died in a hospital bed with all the necessities to guarantee her comforts.
socci

United States

#505472 Jan 11, 2014
Robert F wrote:
I think the KJV has had a pretty good run. Of course it was a take-off of the Douay-Rheims, the RC version of the time. And I think it is well liked because of its classical English.
Interpreting words, and phrases from ancient languages has obvious difficulties. And I know there are some who would believe that not one dot or letter is out of place in their Bibles.

Absolutely not; the KJV does not come from Vatican mss. There are two different manuscript streams. The Vatican's Bible comes from Alexandria Egypt where the gnostic pagans were. It is a bastardized corrupt version of the original preserved by the Orthodox at Constantinople.

KJV NT origins

http://conservapedia.com/Geneva_Bible#The_Fir...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-t...

(chart)
http://bibles4free.com/sitebuildercontent/sit...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Kitwanga, Canada

#505473 Jan 11, 2014
Preachers in all religions give the impression (in attitudes of humility ... of COURSE) that the creator sees all issues just as they see them.

Isn't that EVER HANDY to have a creator that never disagrees with you???

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