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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 693391 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#502709 Dec 28, 2013
I am about to discuss the disease called 'sacred'. It is not, in my opinion, any more divine or more sacred than other diseases, but has a natural cause, and its supposed divine origin is due to men's inexperience, and to their wonder at its peculiar character.

Hippocrates

The Sacred Disease, in Hippocrates, trans. W. H. S. Jones (1923, Vol. e, 139.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#502710 Dec 28, 2013
I always avoid prophesying beforehand, because it is a much better policy to prophesy after the event has already taken place.

Winston Churchill
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#502711 Dec 28, 2013
I suggest there is not a preacher on earth that studies scriptural words, and in turn believes that the self is one bit evil.

No matter which religion ... the preachers always use the scriptures to preach that sin is OUT THERE and holiness is IN HERE with US.

That bad habit, in and of it's self, should alert all humans to the fact that religion is USED as mental "BAIT" to in turn, lure unsuspecting believers into divisive, right-fighting cults.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#502712 Dec 28, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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The pope said:
AnthonyMN quotes the pope, "It is true that the Muslim world is not totally mistaken when it reproaches the West of Christian tradition of moral decadence and the manipulation of human life." End quote.
It figures this pope would side with the Muslims. Manipulation of human life is a Rome specialty. Imagine a so-called church who tells the world they stand against abortion after killing millions. Rome is the king of manipulation.
AnthonyMN quotes the pope, "It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the church's pastors wherever it occurs." End quote.
Apparently the pope believes it is more kind to allow a homosexual to die in their sin.. This man is a low life liberal who lowers the church down to the world rather than the world back to absolute Biblical truth.
AnthonyMN quotes the pope, "“It is theologically and anthropologically important for woman to be at the center of Christianity. Through Mary, and the other holy women, the feminine element stands at the heart of the Christian religion.” End quote.
Really? The pope is in direct conflict with the Bible. The Word of God proclaims,“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent”(1 Timothy 2:11-12). In the church, God assigns different roles to men and women. This is a result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered the world (1 Timothy 2:13-14). God, through the apostle Paul, restricts women from serving in roles of teaching and/or having spiritual authority over men. This precludes women from serving as pastors over men, which definitely includes preaching to, teaching, and having spiritual authority. Maybe God was just joking!
The pope tells us through Mary the feminine element stands at the heart of Christianity. Does anyone on this forum believe Mary is the heart of Christianity. The heart of Christianity is Jesus Christ. May this pope rot in hell with his brother, satan!!!
Anthony MN wrote:
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As expected and right on queue, the pope's statements go sailing over the resident vulgarian's pointed noggin. Is it possible that you're related to Ox?
What part of the popes statements went sailing over my head? Did your pope speak the quotes YOU listed below or not. Please let us know.

AnthonyMN quotes the pope, "It is true that the Muslim world is not totally mistaken when it reproaches the West of Christian tradition of moral decadence and the manipulation of human life." End quote.

AnthonyMN quotes the pope, "It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the church's pastors wherever it occurs." End quote.

AnthonyMN quotes the pope, "“It is theologically and anthropologically important for woman to be at the center of Christianity. Through Mary, and the other holy women, the feminine element stands at the heart of the Christian religion.” End quote.
StarC

United States

#502713 Dec 28, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Star C says........The three kings celebrated Jesus in the year one

Michael says..........Show me in scriptures where it indicates 3 kings? 3 Gifts doesn't mean three Kings. The story in the bible (only) indicates 3 gifts, it doesn't say how many kings. Maybe there were 89 Kings, or 6 Kings. Don't read between the lines. Get the story correct.

.....Yes I celebrated christmas season (and we do eat turkey in Canada) with family and friends just like most everyone else does. I went to the mall and shopping centres and visiting people much like everyone else did.
.......and I too hope you had a wonderful christmas and hopefully a happy new year 2014.
signed, Michael....
Tertullian ("Adv. Marcion.", III, xiii) says that they were wellnigh kings (fere reges), and so agrees with what we have concluded from non-Biblical evidence.
" they were wellnigh kings (fere reges), and so agrees with what we have concluded from non-Biblical evidence. The Church, indeed, in her liturgy, applies to the Magi tQhe words: "The kings of Tharsis and the islands shall offer presents; the kings of the Arabians and of Saba shall bring him gifts: and all the kings of the earth shall adore him" (Psalm 71:10).

Neither were they magicians: the good meaning of magoi, though found nowhere else in the Bible, is demanded by the context of the second chapter of St. Matthew.

(Find the same meaning in Mt 2: 1-12)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to u as well.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#502714 Dec 28, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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So Babylon IS code for pagan Rome after all? Umm, isn't that exactly what we've been saying?
Personally ..just a,guess...heard a,sermon once,that the,description pretty much fits,the US..except on the seven hills,part.

However ..One thing I found,from the Catholics ,posting ONLY...which makes,no sense,to me,. But a few,of you insist BABYLON wayside by early Christians,for ROME ...when discussing St Peter..
Dreamlike,you all want it both ways ...

Just an observation..

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#502715 Dec 28, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Agree ..mostly ..yes,a remnant ..BUT when the bible,speaks,of Israel it MEANS,Israel ...
I read someplace recently...Jesus,will take up the,CHURCH. then return for he CHILDREM OF ISRAEL.
how this,all will be fulfilled ...or when
.no one knows,.
However prophecies,are being fulfilled ever since Israel became,a,state,....
It just took you'd Chur h a,few,decades,to recognize this....
Odd since they are theologians,..But they finally did.
Good for John Paul
RoSesz

Peace

I know that you do not blindly follow things issued by the U.S.

My concern for you is that you do not blindly follow things because of Israel. It is most likely, according to my understanding of eschatology(which is small) that Israel will follow the Anti-Christ before the end times....And that may be not just a person for a time, but a way of life for awhile, and culminate in a person.

So my concern then is don't think God is pleased with Israel(as a State), just as God is not pleased with certain directions the U.S. has and is taking now....

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#502716 Dec 28, 2013
LTM wrote:
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But I thought you catholic's didn't believe in the Holy Scriptures.
Too funny, lady, Catholics gave you the Bible. All we are saying is that first came the Church that kept "The Word" alive. Our whole Mass is Bible base from beginning to end. Catholics have more Bible readings then any Protestant church. That's daily Mass too.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#502717 Dec 28, 2013
Gods R Delusions but Mine wrote:
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Your biggest fear in life seems to be that Jane and others will not suffer as you hope.
No? Did God tell you to judge her? Of course not. In fact, the exact opposite is true according to your own holy book.
Per your imaginary god, you are supposed to forgive and love Jane, not claim she's going to suffer.
You lamely ignore the basics of your own holy book, because you are overcome by fear.
Is there a doctor in the house?
Ramen
Gods R Delusions

I think you have come to some erroneous conclusions from my writings. But I do not judge them, but prefer to take the onus for them, as my inadequate descriptions may cause you to err....

June has the choice of free-will, and those choices lead her to various ends. June does not ask for forgiveness, so I can give none to her, though I am always willing. My obligation to love her is inherent in Christianity, and this I do not withhold.

Perhaps you include me in the group of Christians that have faith without reason, and conclude that I am just another ignorant fool?

Soba

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#502718 Dec 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You are the one here that keeps posting nonsense, and I am blaming you for being an ignorant fool!
June

People can conclude anything they want to from data and facts, as it involves preconceptions for their conclusions.

But those people constantly fed lies, may wake up one day.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#502719 Dec 28, 2013
Chess wrote:
Where'd that little thief OxBlow go?
Oxbow, the wrongly accused, is is looking under your favorite rock for you....he can hear you hissing....

You never showed me, as I requested you to do, where I have ever said, of info I copied and pasted, "These are my words"...nor anything close to that....

You are a snake and, like Ant, a liar....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#502720 Dec 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You once also idolized my Atheist opinions.
Isn't THAT a HOOT???
:)
June

Yes. I had to throw that idol down. Its a tough one to get rid of believing in one's own opinions.

:)

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#502721 Dec 28, 2013
Jesus b-day

We must note first that St. Matthew says (ii, 1) that Our Saviour was born "in the days of King Herod". Josephus tells us (Antiquities, XVII, viii, 1), that Herod died "having reigned 34 years de facto since the death of Antigonus, and 37 years de jure since the Roman decree declaring him king". We know also that he began to reign in the consulship of Domitius Calvinus and Asinius Pollio, 40 B.C., in the 184th Olympiad (Ant., xiv, 5); and that he became king de facto in the consulship of Marcus Agrippa and Canidius Ballus, in the 185th Olympiad (Ant., XIV, xvi, 4). These calculations do not make it sure whether Herod died in the year 3, 4, or 5 B. C., but it is most probable that it was in the year 4 B.C. That date is corroborated by an eclipse of the moon which occurred (Ant., XVII, vi, 4) on the very night that Herod burnt Matthias alive, a few days before his own death; for there was an eclipse of the moon from 12 March to 13 March, 4 B.C. All this points to the fact that Herod died in the year 4 B. C., and that so Our Saviour must have been born before that date. In May, October, and December of the year 7 B. C., a conjunction of the planets Jupiter and Saturn took place. Kepler, the astronomer, suggested that perhaps this phenomenon was connected with the star seen by the Magi (Matthew 2:2). But this idea is altogether too uncertain to be entertained seriously, or to form a basis for any reliable chronology. Nor can we come to any more definite conclusion from what St. Matthew says of the sojourn of the child Jesus in Egypt (ii, 14, 19, 22), where he remained till the death of Herod. Herod ordered a massacre of the children up to two years old according to the information about the date of the Nativity which he had received from the Magi. In itself there is nothing unlikely in that, for we know that Herod was a most cruel and whimsical man, having, for instance, summoned to his bedside all the principal men of the Jewish nation with a view to having them shot with darts at the moment of his death, so that there might be universal lamentation when he left this life. We do not, however, know what information Herod possessed as to the date of the Nativity, whether the Magi gave him accurate information, or whether they possessed it themselves; what the incident would seem to show was that Our Saviour was born some time before Herod's death, probably two years or more. So that, if Herod died in the year 4 B.C., we should be taken to 6 or 7 B.C. as the year of the Nativity.
But a difficulty is raised as to the date of the Nativity in connexion with the Roman census mentioned in the second chapter of St. Luke. The Nativity took place after a decree had gone forth from Cæsar Augustus that the whole Roman Empire should be enrolled. The words "This enrolling was first made by Cyrinus, the governor of Syria" (verse 2), or, more correctly, "This first census was taken whilst Quirinius was governor of Syria", are the source of the difficulty. For we know that Publius Sulpicius Quirinius was governor of Syria, and that a census was made in A.D. 7, about eleven years after Herod's death, and it is not denied that Cyrinus was Quirinius. Schürer, in "The Jewish People in the Time of Jesus Christ" (Div. I, Vol. II, 105-143), endeavours to prove that the statement is an inaccuracy on the part of St. Luke, and, with more or less emphasis, practically all the critical school takes up the same attitude. But prima facie we are not disposed to accept the contention that St. Luke was in ignorance on such a very elementary subject.

Read more here

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03731a.htm

May, October or December, happy the Catholic Church selected Dec.!!

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#502722 Dec 28, 2013
Have a wonderful weekend and a Happy New Year!

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#502723 Dec 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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As long as you insist on placing faith in the existence of a god ... you will follow the mentality of the theologians ... in your case Catholic theologians.
When you were an Atheist you agreed with me that religion is based on fear. But then you switched back to Catholicism which once again, in turn, bound you into their fear-based religion.
Heaven for those who are Catholics ... and hell for those who are NOT Catholics.
June

To a degree I agree....

Put faith in God or in your ideas of God, or put faith in no God or your ideas of No God....

Its a choice. The outcome does not dictate heaven or hell, but it does affect the direction you take in life. The outcome only God knows, be prepared.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#502724 Dec 28, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Oxbow, the wrongly accused, is is looking under your favorite rock for you....he can hear you hissing....
You never showed me, as I requested you to do, where I have ever said, of info I copied and pasted, "These are my words"...nor anything close to that....
You are a snake and, like Ant, a liar....
Please provide a quality source that requires you say, "These are my words," to be considered a literary thief.

And please share it with Doris Kearns Goodwin.

She'll be thrilled.

Thief.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#502725 Dec 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You chose to leave Atheism to go back and follow the theology that you found ultra-pleasing to your emotional desires.
"Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican"
June

I have moved enough in this life to know my emotional desires. And they have been subdued enough for me to make intelligent decisions. Though at times I still wonder if the will is drawn from the outside, or propelled by decisions. It is both inert and capable of being affected.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#502726 Dec 28, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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June
People can conclude anything they want to from data and facts, as it involves preconceptions for their conclusions.
But those people constantly fed lies, may wake up one day.
Maybe ... but I suggest that you will probably choose to still sleep, nestled in your hypnotic state of Catholicism!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#502727 Dec 28, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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June
I have moved enough in this life to know my emotional desires. And they have been subdued enough for me to make intelligent decisions. Though at times I still wonder if the will is drawn from the outside, or propelled by decisions. It is both inert and capable of being affected.
Case in point!

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#502728 Dec 28, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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June
To a degree I agree....
Put faith in God or in your ideas of God, or put faith in no God or your ideas of No God....
Its a choice. The outcome does not dictate heaven or hell, but it does affect the direction you take in life. The outcome only God knows, be prepared.
Well if there's an afterlife and I have free will ... I will choose eternal bliss for my self and hell for you.

How does that grab your emotional ongoing AFFAIR that you are having with your self???

:)

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