Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

Since: Jun 10

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#502200 Dec 24, 2013
Liam wrote:
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1. If your using historical inaccuracies for your measuring stick, then you'll need to remove a few more books than the deuterocanonical texts.
2. They teach doctrine that is false? Says who?.
3. Says who?
4. Not to me. I get inspired from reading Sirach and the last two chapters of Daniel. If 'feeling' good is your litmus test for inspired books, then I presume Forest Gump is in your canon?
5. No they don't.
I'm curious to know you these "non catholic authorities" are who reject the Apocrypha.
Why do biblical Christians and churches reject the Apocrypha as being inspired of God?:

1. These books existed before New Testament times, yet there is not one single quotation from the Apocrypha is in the New Testament. Jesus quoted from twenty four of the Old Testament books, and the New Testament quotes from thirty four books of the Old Testament. Introductory phrases like "it is written" or "thus says the Lord" are totally absent from the books and therefore the books themselves do not claim to be inspired of God.

The books of 1st and 2nd Maccabees have historical significance, but when they are compared to the Bible they shown to not be the inspired Word of God. Even though they have some historical value these books are clouded by the contradictions found in their text. For example, in 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.

2. Although some of the early church fathers quoted from these writings, and even accepted them as inspired, this does not mean they were inspired. The majority of the early church writers rejected these books as being inspired. Clearly in the Second Century and afterward there were many false teachers and heretics. It is important to know that Jesus nor any of the Apostles quoted from or mention any of these books.

mo later
truth

Perth, Australia

#502201 Dec 24, 2013
Merry Christmas
truth

Perth, Australia

#502202 Dec 24, 2013
remember todat is family day
holy family day
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
as you see Father Mother and child
as you see Sun moon star
as you see atom proton neutron

its first unity
there control yourself within your cell..its your family

God left like that= 3x mother father child.

Peace be with you all who going in church or not.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#502203 Dec 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Why do biblical Christians and churches reject the Apocrypha as being inspired of God?:
1. These books existed before New Testament times, yet there is not one single quotation from the Apocrypha is in the New Testament. Jesus quoted from twenty four of the Old Testament books, and the New Testament quotes from thirty four books of the Old Testament. Introductory phrases like "it is written" or "thus says the Lord" are totally absent from the books and therefore the books themselves do not claim to be inspired of God.
The books of 1st and 2nd Maccabees have historical significance, but when they are compared to the Bible they shown to not be the inspired Word of God. Even though they have some historical value these books are clouded by the contradictions found in their text. For example, in 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.
2. Although some of the early church fathers quoted from these writings, and even accepted them as inspired, this does not mean they were inspired. The majority of the early church writers rejected these books as being inspired. Clearly in the Second Century and afterward there were many false teachers and heretics. It is important to know that Jesus nor any of the Apostles quoted from or mention any of these books.
mo later
You're not only a thief:

http://bible-truth.org/Apocrypha.html

You're a dimwit.

Try thinking and posting for yourself.

Or at least steal from quality sources.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#502204 Dec 24, 2013
truth wrote:
Merry Christmas
Back at you.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#502205 Dec 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Why do biblical Christians and churches reject the Apocrypha as being inspired of God?:
Why do you reject the Hindu myth of what they believe is their savior Chrishna, that existed long before Christianity.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>

The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.

1. Chrishna of Hindostan.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#502206 Dec 24, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<Or at least steal from quality sources.
As the Catholics claimed to have stolen the affection of the god from the Jews???

Is that a good example of quality theft?

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#502207 Dec 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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As the Catholics claimed to have stolen the affection of the god from the Jews???
Is that a good example of quality theft?
Christians didn't claim to steal it, goofy.

Christians claimed it was given to them.

But it seems to me, they did credited the source.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#502208 Dec 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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As the Catholics claimed to have stolen the affection of the god from the Jews???
Is that a good example of quality theft?
YOU WORK FOR THE THIEF...YOU SHOULD KNOW....

You selfishly attempt relentlessly to steal/destroy the faith of every one in this forum..
truth

Perth, Australia

#502209 Dec 24, 2013
t.uk.ac is ready for roast ..its male bird from perad=chicken family
in my house is peace every year, nobody only members family..its tradition from my father and mother side..yee
after you can go where ever you liked..

not any tree with colors not kug.lica not any more..

mum don't liked
cancare or candrline =as plastic celebrity on holy day
not more..no

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#502210 Dec 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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YOU WORK FOR THE THIEF...YOU SHOULD KNOW....
You selfishly attempt relentlessly to steal/destroy the faith of every one in this forum..
Yet you are willing to believe that Catholics are destined for hell to spend eternity with the devil.

I don't believe in hell or a devil.

You believe that you support the words of a God, and I believe that you support the words of Protestant theologians.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#502211 Dec 24, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Christians didn't claim to steal it, Christians claimed it was given to them.
Catholic church-fathers claimed that the love of God was given to them, BECAUSE the god that once loved the Jews, took his love AWAY from the Jews to apply it to ONLY Catholics.

That is theological-theft of the lowest, most vile type of theft.

Catholics should have created a new god, as did the Jews that went from polytheism to monotheism to create their one-god dogma.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#502212 Dec 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU WORK FOR THE THIEF...YOU SHOULD KNOW....
You selfishly attempt relentlessly to steal/destroy the faith of every one in this forum..
Are you convinced that the one god removed his love from the Jews ... by-passed the Catholics and Muslims ... and placed all his love on the Protestants ... such as YOU???

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#502213 Dec 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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YOU WORK FOR THE THIEF...YOU SHOULD KNOW....
You selfishly attempt relentlessly to steal/destroy the faith of every one in this forum..
You are DETERMINED to steal FAITH away from the Catholics ... but it seems you don't believe that THAT theft "counts" .... because it's committed by YOU!

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#502214 Dec 24, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Christians didn't claim to steal it, goofy.
Christians claimed it was given to them.
But it seems to me, they did credited the source.
"discredited" would be a better word.

Analogy:
Christianity took the Constitution of the US and claimed it is the foundation of the Communist Manifesto. Then claimed Lenin to be Emperor of USA.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#502215 Dec 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU WORK FOR THE THIEF...YOU SHOULD KNOW....
You selfishly attempt relentlessly to steal/destroy the faith of every one in this forum..
If one has faith in Truth and God, it can never be shaken. Sadly, most religious people prefer a pack of lies and ignorance.
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#502216 Dec 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Catholic church-fathers claimed that the love of God was given to them, BECAUSE the god that once loved the Jews, took his love AWAY from the Jews to apply it to ONLY Catholics.
That is theological-theft of the lowest, most vile type of theft.
Catholics should have created a new god, as did the Jews that went from polytheism to monotheism to create their one-god dogma.
So first, according to you, they claimed to steal it.

But now, according to you, they claimed it was given to them.

You didn't take your meds this morning, did you?

And by the way, the Jews lifted their mythology freely from their neighbor's myths.

Google Gilgamesh, silly.

And you'll find Egyptian monotheism had a healthy history long before any OT text was written.

Do I have to learn you everything?

Oh. And before I forget, what time is Christmas dinner?

I don't wanna be late.
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#502217 Dec 24, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
"discredited" would be a better word.
Analogy:
Christianity took the Constitution of the US and claimed it is the foundation of the Communist Manifesto. Then claimed Lenin to be Emperor of USA.
No. Credit would have been a better word.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#502218 Dec 24, 2013
Those that defend their own cults, are certain that a god wants them to ATTACK when the dogmas of the cults are under "threat."

That attitude is what created the religious wars.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >

A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw that God's truth is attacked and yet would remain silent.

John Calvin

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#502219 Dec 24, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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So first, according to you, they claimed to steal it.
But now, according to you, they claimed it was given to them.
The Catholic church-fathers claimed that the god that used to love the Jews "transferred" his love away from the Jews and gave it all to the Catholics. And in turn, because they "wanted" to believe it was true ... other Catholics took it for granted that the Catholic church-fathers told the whole truth and nothing BUT the truth.

Just as you don't want to see the lies, other Catholics didn't want to see the lies ... even though the lies are in plain sight.

Common sense mythology should tell you that a god would not change his MIND in mid-stream, by claiming to love one group only, to then love another group and disown the first group of believers.

Religion is BUNK!

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