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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 690636 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500401 Dec 16, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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June
Since you were a child, you knew the preachers were wrong.
I admit, that I must learn by my mistakes.
You never learned.
Nice dodge Robert. But your lies are evident.

June VanDerMark wrote:

When Robert F was an Atheist, he claimed that religion was based on the premise of FEAR.
Now that he is back into Catholicism, he claims that he is moved by God's "spirit" of FAITH.
How CONvenient.
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Robert F wrote:
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Greetings June
It is fear that makes the KNOW. Fear of death, and fear of hell, and fear of not making it to heaven.....Religion is based on fear....
Robert
June

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#500402 Dec 16, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Your self-serving Christian philosophy makes claims of truth as does the philosophy of all preachers in various religions.
If you were a Muslim, you'd be preaching Islam as the only truth on earth.
It's unfortunate that you don't want to see that issue from the outside in.
No I wouldn't because it's a false doctrine, and if one studies enough they will see the Muslim religion as a false doctrine. Those that are believers in the Muslim religion do so either out of ignorance, they just accept it and don't care to see it for what it really is, nothing but a false doctrine. Some people stay with the Muslim religion out of fear or some other ignorant reason. It doesn't matter where you live or what religion you were taught, if you are willing to study you will find out if your religion is the true religion or not, by studying, that's what studying is all about.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500403 Dec 16, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Arrogant is so unusual of a word for someone who serves the Lord,.
You are arrogant because you believe you serve a lord.

That type of attitude is simply all about "lording it over others" and that is arrogance.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500404 Dec 16, 2013
marge wrote:
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They don't understand that personal relationship,
Every person that had and has faith in the existence of a savior in every religion on earth ... no doubt believed they had a PERSONAL relationship with their savior.

What good is a savior, if you can't personalize its image in your mind???
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500405 Dec 16, 2013
marge wrote:
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They don't understand that personal relationship,
If you were willing to study, you would learn.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>

Belief in Osiris, Isis, and Horus later spread to the Roman Empire, until believers began to be persecuted under Christianity.

Five centuries before the supposed birth of Jesus, the Greek historian Herodotus traveled to Egypt. There he witnessed an enormous festival, held every year, in which the Egyptians performed a drama before tens of thousands of people, representing the death and resurrection of Osiris. This story is so ancient that it can be traced back to pyramid texts written over 4,500 years ago.

As far as we can tell, Osiris is the original story of a dying and resurrecting god. The story spread to Ancient Greece in the story of the god Dionysus, then to Ancient Rome in the story of the god Mithras, and then to Christianity in the story of the god Jesus. Along the way it appeared in several cultures under various names.

http://daughtersofearthwisdom.org/sabbats/yul...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500406 Dec 16, 2013
The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.

and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character for the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven.

1. Chrishna of Hindostan.
2. Budha Sakia of India.
3. Salivahana of Bermuda
4. Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt.
5. Odin of the Scandinavians.
6. Crite of Chaldea.
7. Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia.
8. Baal and Taut,“the only Begotten of God,” of Phenicia.
9. Indra of Thibet.
10. Bali of Afghanistan.
11. Jao of Nepaul.
12. Wittoa of the Bilingonese.
13. Thammuz of Syria.
14. Atys of Phrygia.
15. Xamolxis of Thrace.
16. Zoar of the Bonzes.
17. Adad of Assyria.
18. Deva Tat,aud Sammonocadam of Siam.
19. Alcides of Thebes.
20. Mikado of the Sintoos.
21. Beddru of Japan.
22. Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids.
23. Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls.
24. Cadmus of Greece.
25. Hil and Feta of the Mandaites.
26. Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico.
27. Universal Monarch of the Sibyls.
28. Ischy of the Island of Formosa.
29. Divine teacher of Plato.
30. Holy One of xaca.
31. Fohi and Tien of China.
32. Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece.
33. Ision and Quirinus of Rome.
34. Prometheus of Caucasus.
35. Mohammud, or Mahomet, of Arabia.

These have all received divine honors, have nearly all been worshiped as Gods, or sons of Gods; were mostly incarnated as Christs, Saviors, Messiahs, or Mediators; not a few of them were reputedly born of virgins; some of them filling a character almost identical with that ascribed by the Christian’s bible to Jesus Christ; many of them like him, are reported crucified; and all of them, taken together, furnish a prototype and parallel for nearly every important incident and wonder-inciting miracle, doctrine and precept recorded in the New Testament, of the Christian’s Savior. Surely, with so many Saviors the world cannot, or should not, be lost.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500407 Dec 16, 2013
And again ... keep in mind that all the supposed saviors in all religions were not created as male by chance. Mortal men created them in the male image, which means they created the creator his self WITHIN THE THEOLOGY as a male bigot of the worst bigotry EVER.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500408 Dec 16, 2013
From the book “Chronology of Women’s History,” by Kirstin Olsen, comes the following……….

700—401 B.C.

Religion

Few men become arhats, and even fewer women; the only higher level is the achievement of nirvana (the end of the cycle of suffering caused by continual reincarnation), and it is believed in the Buddha’s day that women are incapable of achieving nirvana at all. They must be content with being as holy as possible in the hope of being reborn as men—and then they can reach nirvana.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500409 Dec 16, 2013
"Women are the Root of All Evil" : The Misogyny of Religions

Judaism

with the male YHWH being repeatedly declared as the Highest of the Gods. It is hard to say to what extent this religious ideology affected social customs; there is however no doubt that the Israelite family was completely patriarchal, with the husband acting as absolute master of wife and children (de Vaux, 1965, p. 20; Moscati, 1953, p. 138).

http://www.infidels.org/kiosk/article/quotwom...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500410 Dec 16, 2013
"Women are the Root of All Evil" : The Misogyny of Religions

Christianity

Though largely disregarded by the Hebrew biblical tradition, misogynic aspects of the creation myth received great attention during the intertestamental period (Milne, 1989) and were later put to use by Christian exegetes. Outstanding among these are:

•Tertullian (c. 150- c. 230): "Do you know that you are each an Eve? On account of your desert even the Son of God had to die";

•Augustine (354-430): "It is still Eve the temptress that we must beware of in any woman",(both quoted in Armstrong, 1993, p. 124; on Augustine's attitude towards women see also Power, 1995, esp. p. 229);

•Aquinas, the Angelic Doctor (1225-1274), who refers to women as "defective and misbegotten" (Summa Theologica I/92).

http://www.infidels.org/kiosk/article/quotwom...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#500411 Dec 16, 2013
"Women are the Root of All Evil" : The Misogyny of Religions

Islam

In her book on genital mutilation of Islamic women, Abdalla contrasts the theoretical equality of the sexes in the Koran (4:1) with the actual inferior position of women.

http://www.infidels.org/kiosk/article/quotwom ...
truth

Belair, Australia

#500412 Dec 16, 2013
Your Creator created you.
Did your Creator know you..yes it is..did others looking creations yes it is then who is pretender, who is real?

my God don't need kiss from me
my god don't need knelling
my god don't need nothing from me
Hand s lags body and mind on Cross.

How much you love your God with suffering?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#500413 Dec 16, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If you believe in the myth of Jesus, you have no other choice but to believe that when he chose to be baptized by John the Baptist, Jesus his self vilified Judaism and chose to support Catholicism as his new version of truth.
You can't have it both ways.
Not being a Catholic or Christian, I think Jesus was a Samaritan and was baptized into Judaism by his cousin John. Nothing unusual about that. Jesus and John were both human, nothing more.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#500414 Dec 16, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>it is so easy to make you look like a simpleton.
so lets look at what Jesus considers the "Scriptures".
for He said, "Search the Scriptures", and since He wasn't dead yet, He was referring to the Holy Scriptures.
you know that right?lol
therefore Psalms 110.1 says and uses the lower case lord (pronounced adonee)to speak of David's Master.
I am like the chess expert , you want to constantly act like a fool, be my guest
When you find yourself in a hole.....stop digging!!!!!

Scripture: The sacred writings of the Bible. Often used in the plural. Also called Holy Scriptures.

Bible: The sacred book of Christianity, a collection of ancient writings including the books of both the Old Testament and the New Testament.

You have have brought Christ's Divinity to your natural man status......Christ knew, before the world began, the very day the sacred book of Christianity, the Bible, a collection of ancient writings including the books of both the Old Testament and the New Testament would come into existence.....that is the Scriptures He refers to......

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#500415 Dec 16, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> her implying I work on my back for a living,or that nick and I live on s.s or that I was in a mental hospital what else....makes me laugh. Honestly...I don't have to answer to her. She doesn't put a roof over my head or food on my table. She is nothing to me but a poor sole looking for attention.
True ..But that gutter talk has,no place among Christians,..IMO ..

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#500416 Dec 16, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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I said "other than physical inability to do so", now didn't I? So there was no need to mention her broken hip, was there? No, there wasn't. But you just had to do it.
Yeah, peace to you, too.
You told HER about no excuses.......

however excuses are not necessary WAS THE POINT..Regina,and she wasn't making any ..none ars necessary ..

The point is,God loves our prayers ..our communication EITH HIM no matter our posture ..That was the point ..not He excuse You said we shouldn't make ..
If someone tells closer to God in their knees beautiful ...But you cannot judge a,prayer by our posture ...

For myself ..as I said ..I will kneel or just pray as I am ...

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#500417 Dec 16, 2013
Liam wrote:
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Now Ox on the other hand, wouldn't be classified as a Christian because he denies the divinity of Jesus Christ. He teaches that Jesus is not God; they are not one being. But under sola scripture (if it were a true doctrine) his hands are washed. No competing sola scripturist can argue against him. That's how I see it.
Scripture isn't infallible by itself. It takes an infallible authority for scripture to exist in the first place. Someone had to get together and put down the gavel declaring certain books as inspired. Jesus didn't do that for us and neither did His Apostles..
The Bible speaks of you!!!!!

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The Bible not only contains the word of God; it is the word of God. The primary author is the Holy Ghost, or, as it is commonly expressed, the human authors wrote under the influence of Divine inspiration. They are sacred and canonical "because, having been written by inspiration of the Holy Ghost, that have God for their author, and as such have been handed down to the Church". The inerrancy of the Bible follows as a consequence of this Divine authorship. Wherever the sacred writer makes a statement as his own, that statement is the word of God and infallibly true, whatever be the subject-matter of the statement.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#500418 Dec 16, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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Not being a Catholic or Christian, I think Jesus was a Samaritan and was baptized into Judaism by his cousin John. Nothing unusual about that. Jesus and John were both human, nothing more.
Jesus was Jewish..born to descendants if David ..tribe Judah .....John was His cousin whose father was Jewish priest ..

Why do you think he was a Samaritan
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#500419 Dec 16, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> Whos mocking Christ and His mother? Not I...never once have I done that..This is a debate forum. Not solely yours.And don't forget, you insulted me first. Scroll back and read.
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The "holy catholic church" is not your church. Actually, your church is the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. Quite frankly there is nothing holy about the Roman Catholic church. For the record I do hate the organization and the false doctrine it preaches. I do not hate it's members.
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>So you hate Christ then.
Husker Du read these words from OldJG......quote, "The "holy catholic church" is not your church. Actually, your church is the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. Quite frankly there is nothing holy about the Roman Catholic church. For the record I do hate the organization and the false doctrine it preaches. I do not hate it's members." End quote.

Husker Du responded, quote, "So you hate Christ then."End quote.

Another goofy comment. One of so many from Husker Du they cannot be counted. How anyone with a brain could come to this conclusion and make this statement is beyond unbelievable.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#500420 Dec 16, 2013
marge wrote:
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They don't understand that personal relationship, they worship the baby Jesus though.
Just to me ..Jesus is,Jesus..j commemorate His birth he did not have to go through but did because he loved us ..I mean just imagine the LORD creator confined inside a,woman..going through bit j..being circumcised ...And all the things humans endure with our feet of clay .

That was the BEGINNKNG,of HIS sacrifice for us ....Marge ..so I thank Him for coming .
The wise men and shepherd's adored Him as a baby ..I make sure my grand kids remember as does their mom ..

He IS OUR Risen Saviour ..of course But we reflect or should constantly on HIS,SACRIFICE ...the REASION we can live .

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