Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Aug 10

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#499585 Dec 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Silly preacher!
reaction from June = mission accomplished!;-)
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#499586 Dec 13, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
Hey – you spiritually blind ROMAN catholics gotta love this new popesicle! He doesn’t talk a lick about spiritual/Kingdom of Heaven issues, but he sure does push for a unified & socialist/communist world order. If y’all had a clue about what the Bible teaches regarding a false prophet working with an antichrist political world-leader near the end of the age, you’d know why real Christians are opposing you!
you may now return to your pagan prayer beads/rosary and to worshipping ashtoreth/queen of heaven (aka mary) and the host of heaven (aka saints):-)
Still inserting the word Catholic (anywhere and everywhere) in the bible (especially in the book of Revelations) and "where-ever and when-ever" it fits your anti-catholic bible only distorted and perverted agenda!....... False prophets (as you say) began over 2000 years ago and have reached its highest level now in the 21st century, which mostly is attributed to the Protestant Reformation and all of the "self-appointed (contradicting) Protestant bible only "fundies" now at (42,100 inconsistent "relative truth" denominations)!!..... ALL of who claim to possess the Truth and ALL of which cannot agree on "anything" when it comes to the TRUE interpretation of the bible ---ACCEPT attacking, and condemning the ONE PROVEN AND AUTHENTICATED TRUTH that Jesus Christ Himself gave us over 2000 years, in and through HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church. There is ONLY One Truth---not 42,100+ bible only hodge-podge of personal opinonated truths.------Paul in his letter to Timothy confirms the TRUTH in I Timothy 3:15 where he calls THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.!!!

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#499587 Dec 13, 2013
marge wrote:
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Romans 6:14
For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
The idea that the Jews had to live under law, and you Catholics are freed UP by the "same" god's grace, was indeed a slick slight of hand committed with the pens of Catholic theologians.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#499588 Dec 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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You have become an "expert" June at being wrong again
:)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#499589 Dec 13, 2013
Liam wrote:
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You actually do keep files on us. Can I call you a sociopath now?
Man, you wanna be right so dang bad its going to destroy you. Show some humility for once.
~~~

I must share this with you...

I can't say that god gave a revelation in this event but recently at a ROMAN CATHOLIC

CHURCH near by..... This happened..

One of the congregants received a message that effected the whole church

I am not sure what was transpiring at the time, but a man there received a definite revelation. I realty don't believe it was divinely instigated though...

The sound of the braying of a donkey...was heard.... loudly resounding across the edifice

breaking the solicitude pomp and pride of the whole ritualistic scene......

I guess the parishioners thought for an sec..... that ST JENNY

THE DONKEY ....

THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE CARRIED MARY

TO BETHLEHEM ,...HAD FINALLY SPOKEN...

..
The revelation was...

that a farmer had forgotten to turn OFF his cell phone ...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#499590 Dec 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

A "book" being one.
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I suggest that Gnostic literature is also compiled in books, but that your SELF does not believe what are in those books is based on Idolatry.
It seems that when it pertains to beliefs, we all have our "specialties."
You can make suggestion all day long - it don't mean that they are viable.

Books are books and meant to be read. Just because one is read , it doesn't me I worship it.

I suggest you've been so wrapped up within Christianity you failed to recognize this.

FYI - Gnostic texts - as others have labeled them as such, contain alot of information. And if I recall my study - I really don't think that any of them reflect that the Bible or the texts that you suggest (non-canonical)- contain any statements that would direct a person to worship what they read.

Only so-called "Christians" think that they do. Sort of like you are doing.

Hmmmmm.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#499591 Dec 13, 2013
Truth wrote:
We know that God is spiritual......
Wouldn't you think that God wants spiritual worship from us???
Self.

No religion required.

No Bible required.

Just you and your mind.

How honest can you be?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#499592 Dec 13, 2013
Truth wrote:
We know that God is spiritual......
Wouldn't you think that God wants spiritual worship from us???
Oh yeah - one more thing to keep you honest.....

No one knows what or who "God" is, so if you were honest, you wouldn't have stated such a claim that "you know" what "God" is.

Wanna try again?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#499593 Dec 13, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
as a Ordained Minister called by God to preach His Word, I loved to Preach and see people respond and give their life to the lord.
saying that, I can say honestly, that I have seen people often come and give their life to the Lord after hearing Blessed singers, singing in the Spirit and God Blessing.
so naturally , you will see objections from people that belong to the cults like coc.the devil doesn't want to see people use the talents that God has given them to bring people to God.
the Christian that loves the Lord, wishes to see people come to the Lord, and it doesn't matter if it is me, gif, Blessed singers, or the testimonies of the Church, that God uses.
the ONLY important thing is that People get Saved, by whatever means. and there are no shortcuts. I saw someone speak of a person NOT having to walk the aisle up to the altar to get Saved and this is the Truth. I have seen people get Saved, before they got to the Altar, and they still are in church, the wife got saved. the daughter got saved, her BF got Saved and NOW Pastors a Church in our Denomination.
It is the heart, not your location in the building, nor some horse trough. the heart and the heart only ,that brings a person to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. ROMANS 10.10 proves that the coc is not a church approved by God, since their doctrine doesn't agree with what God says.
No wonder you are "off track"!!!!!

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#499594 Dec 13, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Truth
Peace
It seems you are trying to prove a negative....
We do not need scriptural approval. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen....
The hear the Word of God, one needs ears to hear. The act of hearing does not mean that one has faith automatically.
In one case, obedience to the scriptures brings one only so far, but it is repentance, a humble and contrite heart which God honors and bestows the grace of faith....
There is a certain need to be spontaneous in one's faith, which exceeds obedience to scripture as a set of rules. Certainly one learns from scripture and gains greatly from it, but one must live the scriptures, not just follow them....
Peace
Peace
Damn it....those are sure alot of efforts by a person to do.

You must mean Self, huh?

Maybe you should post the statements by Jesus that reflects what you state above to keep you and others honest enough to admit you are following Jesus and not some "false teacher".

Whatcha got?
Human Being

Arnaudville, LA

#499595 Dec 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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All Christians that have FAITH that the bible is the word of a god, are biblical literalists.
The idea that all religion, including yours, is simple-minded philosophy, doesn't enter, and is not allowed to enter your mentality.
June

Its one thing to have FAITH in the Bible, and another to TRUST in the Bible.

But I would say you are onto something, that biblical literalists have faith in the Bible, which would make them idolaters.

Those who trust in the Bible, do so as an ongoing discovery, and development, which means that it is open to belief.

So I can't agree that religion is simple-minded philosophy. That just doesn't make any sense.

One of the main problems I see is that of the biblical idolaters, and those who have faith in Christ. In such a case, it seems to me, that biblical idolaters do not, or have not known faith in Christ.(Or at least their faith in Christ is very limited, even though they may believe in Christ.)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#499596 Dec 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
There's an old saying ... "Too many chiefs, and not enough Indians."
I suggest the same applies to preachers of religion. They all believe they are qualified theologians, and that others should be "followers" of their teachings.
We see that mindset on forums every day.
Ordained preachers of today don't have the respect in their churches as did preachers of old. The members of congregations are often argumentative concerning dogmas.
That is why there is approximately 38,000 Christian denominations, as more and more self-ordained preachers split of into more and more splinter-groups.
And yet as they preach, it seems they don't want to awaken to the idea that what they preach as truth is simply based on philosophy.
Self-perceived leaders aren't willing to be followers. So ... metaphorically stating ... there are too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
*blushing*

Aaawww June - you didn't have to do that.

*hug*

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#499597 Dec 13, 2013
The hair-flipping, dim-witted Protestant, Ann Coulter, preaches in mega-churches that she has the fast-track to heaven ... while the Unfortunate Jews that NEED "perfecting" still have to live under "God's" law.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#499598 Dec 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Still inserting the word Catholic (anywhere and everywhere) in the bible (especially in the book of Revelations) and "where-ever and when-ever" it fits your anti-catholic bible only distorted and perverted agenda!....... False prophets (as you say) began over 2000 years ago and have reached its highest level now in the 21st century, which mostly is attributed to the Protestant Reformation and all of the "self-appointed (contradicting) Protestant bible only "fundies" now at (42,100 inconsistent "relative truth" denominations)!!..... ALL of who claim to possess the Truth and ALL of which cannot agree on "anything" when it comes to the TRUE interpretation of the bible ---ACCEPT attacking, and condemning the ONE PROVEN AND AUTHENTICATED TRUTH that Jesus Christ Himself gave us over 2000 years, in and through HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church. There is ONLY One Truth---not 42,100+ bible only hodge-podge of personal opinonated truths.------Paul in his letter to Timothy confirms the TRUTH in I Timothy 3:15 where he calls THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.!!!
the first and simplest clue that roman catholic church was founded on heresy is that it's the ROMAN catholic church - NUFF SAID

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#499599 Dec 13, 2013
Truth wrote:
Daniel 3
4 Then the herald loudly proclaimed,“Nations and peoples of every language, this is what you are commanded to do:
5 <<<As soon as you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up.>>>
Kin Nebuchadnezzar has set up and commanded....NOT GOD....
6 ~~~Whoever does not fall down and worship will immediately be thrown into a blazing furnace.”~~~
7 Therefore, as soon as they heard the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp and all kinds of music, all the nations and peoples of every language fell down and worshiped the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
Look how God protected them because that would fall down to worship what King Nebuchadnezzar had set up....
28 Then Nebuchadnezzar said,“Praise be to the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, who has sent his angel and rescued his servants! <<<They trusted in him and defied the king’s command and were willing to give up their lives rather than serve or worship any god except their own God.>>>
29 Therefore I decree that the people of any nation or language who say anything against the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego be cut into pieces and their houses be turned into piles of rubble, for no other god can save in this way.”
30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the province of Babylon.
So this portion of the Bible is a false teaching? I think that it is just a story and has lost its pizzazz as something viable for "truth". Don't you?

Afterall - you don't think you can still be "cut into pieces and their houses be turned into piles of rubble, for no other god can save in this way.”

You sound confused on what "God" inspired and what he didn't.

Why don't you specifically post those texts that "God" has indeed inspired, and then list the ones that "He" didn't? That way we can weed out those books that not guiding others.

You can do this, correct?

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#499600 Dec 13, 2013
Liam wrote:
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The coc doesn't belong to the devil anymore than the "United Baptist Presbyterian Southern Pentecostal Community church of the Apostles Assembly of God Bible Church" does.(Is that a group yet?)
God finds a way to work in all of ya. And I'm sure it gets more and more difficult for Him with each passing generation. Hank is a good man who's simply doing what you and everyone before you have done: Taking some of the scriptures and forming a religion based on how you privately interpret it. That doesn't automatically warrant damnation. I'm sure the more truths you learn- but consciously ignore- doesn't factor well as you stand before God though.
You're right on musical instruments and he's recklessly wrong. Its a sin NOT to use ones musical ability for worship. God gave musicians the talent, they are obligated to use it for worship.
No my friend, he isn't right on the instrument use.I want you to truly listen to what you just said as authorization for the use of instruments over scripture, such as, Ephesians 5;19,Colossians 3;16 ,you have just told someone that it's ok to add instruments over the word of God, and here's what you said[,You're right on musical instruments and he's recklessly wrong. Its a sin NOT to use ones musical ability for worship. God gave musicians the talent, they are obligated to use it for worship.] What right do you have over scripture that authorizes singing only for you to blatantly tell someone that it's ok to use instruments , you actually have NONE. It's people like you on why we have thousands and thousands of man made churches come about, because what ever feels good is ok, friend you and others are the cause for false doctrine being used and have caused many, including yourself to be eternally lost by playing God instead of going according to scripture. I gave you scripture, you gave me your feelings ,which one do you really believe to be correct in the eyes of God?
Liam

United States

#499601 Dec 13, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Clay,
Do we consider musical instruments SPIRITUAL???
Of course not!
They are merely physical objects used simply for the outward effect of physical sounds (outward and physical.)
God is looking for the INWARD and SPIRITUAL.
Remember, The New Testament (New Covenant) is a spiritual covenant with spiritual emphasis, as how it relates to God, as in eternal life and salvation from sin.
Give me a break. Playing a instrument before God is a beautiful thing. Its a way to repay Him for the talent you were born with. And is CAN come from the heart.
There is no way around it, Hank. Your personal idea about instruments and worship is ridiculous. Psalm 150 from the word of God is clear. Its completely irresponsible for you to isolate two versus from the NT to undo Psalm 150. The Apostles never outlawed Musical instruments and you know it.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#499602 Dec 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Yours is just more of the same old "bible only" 18th century fictitious preaching that you fundies are so famous for. There is absolutely NOTHING in the bible or in 2000 years of authenticated and documented Church history that will sustantiate the fact that the bible (in the bible itself) that the bible is the (ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH) that God chose to transmit HIS divine and infallible word. You bible only "buffoons" have (made this up) just like you do with "many" of your contradicting, inconsistent and conflicting teachings. The fact is
your Sola Scriptura beliefs are just another of the 42,100 (other) Protestant (hodge-podge) of personal opinionated teachings that belong in the "editorial section" of your local newspaper!
You can rename yourself, make up a new title and give yourself a different designation of ANYTHING you want, but you my friend are "nothing more" than an (offshoot, extention or a branch) of the Protestant Reformation----------a rejector, a rebel, a defiant perpetrator against the Bibllical and Historical TRUTH of the ONLY TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCH that was established, formed and initiated by Jesus Christ HIMSELF, over 2000 years ago. Over 2000 years ago, Jesus left His Apostles, disciples and followers HIS CHURCH----(not a bible). The CHURCH--HIS One True Universal Apostolic Catholic Church (came first)---then the bible---over 350 years later in 382, 393 and 397 AD which was the Canon of Scripture from the Early Church Fathers who gave us the bible, which you 21st century modernists Protestants interpret or better yet (mis-interpret) to your own "demise and destruction". In I Timothy 3:15 Paul in His letter to Timothy tell us that "THE CHURCH",(not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH". There is ONLY ONE TRUTH, not 42,100+ contradictin, inconsistent and conflicting (personal opinionated) "relative truths" and that ONE TRUTH, has, is and will always be grounded and manifested in Jesus Christ, in and through His One True Apostolic Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ)
Nothing else but Scripture is needed for doctrine, reproof, correction, instructions in righteousness, for the man of God to be throughly furnished to do good works...per Scripture..

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Human Being

Arnaudville, LA

#499603 Dec 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Had you studied the theology from the Jews point of view rather than from the Catholic point of view, you would understand that the Jews didn't and don't accept that a faithful Jew to Judaism would become a traitor by CHOICE against Judaism to in turn prefer Catholicism.
But instead you related to John Chrysostom's anti-Semitism and chose that way to believe as your favorite concept of truth.
Shame on YOU ... believing that a Jew chose to become baptized as a Catholic.
It's equivalent to believing that a pope would choose to become a leader of the Protestant religion.
It just would NOT occur.
June

And if you had studied theology, you wouldn't think the way you do.(smiles)

It is just a little to bizarre....

Consider that even faithful Jews, could relate to Jesus, if they were searching for the Truth. Nicodemus comes to mind, when he came after dark, not to be seen by others. And of course Gamaliel, in the book of Acts, was among the more intelligent, and understanding(though he did not give up his roots, was in sympathy with the Apostles in their pursuit of Truth).

One becomes a traitor by default, in religion, when they stop seeking Truth, or stop others from seeking Truth.

So don't stop people from seeking Truth, dear June.... I enjoy your persistence, though sometimes misplaced.
Liam

United States

#499604 Dec 13, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Clay,
I forgot to add:
The New Testament worship involves the emphasis placed on the inner man i.e. heart, soul, mind.
Romans 8:5-8
5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.
6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.
7 <<<The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.>>>
8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
I'm a follower of the word of God- given both orally and written from the Apostles. I'm not interested in your interpretations of sacred scripture. Its the word of Hank not the word of God. Its not authoritative sir. I'm sorry, I know you truly mean well, but I can't entertain it. I'm a bit troubled that you'd say its a sin to play an organ before God... as if God gets mad at that?? Bizarre your 'church of Christ' is.

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