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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 673420 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#497901 Dec 7, 2013
If I die today, I will go to my death knowing that when I was under the spell of religion, I never put faith in words in a bible, and therefore never preached that another supposed "soul" would end up in hell in a hereafter for not believing as I believed ... and for that I am very, VERY thankful.

For the sake of preachers in religion, I hope that there is no real court of justice forthcoming.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#497902 Dec 7, 2013
After centuries of slaughter against the Jews, some Christians are finally waking up to the fact that something is WRONG with what they have been taught. I already knew THAT when I was a small child, and that was why I didn't trust words in the bible.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>

Church must repent of sin of anti-Semitism

The Reverend Simon Ponsonby speaking

An Anglican clergyman has called on the Church to repent of its anti-Semitism, which he described as a sin against the Holy Spirit.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/church....

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#497903 Dec 7, 2013
I suggest that what most Christians don't realize is that their supposed savior (had he lived,) was also a preacher of anti-Semitic messages.

"Within the theology," Jesus lead the people AWAY from Judaism.

Yet the ONLY god (by the various names of Adonai, or Jehovah, or Elohim, et cetera) in the Abrahamic religion, was created BY Jews, for Jewish USE ONLY.

Religion is ALL BUNK!

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#497904 Dec 7, 2013
I suggest that there is NO holy or evil spirit lurking anywhere to which I must obey, fear, or submit my emotions through groveling.

I've made my peace with me, and each moment of each new day, I can do no better than my best.
Michael

Terrace Bay, Canada

#497905 Dec 7, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Michael!! Your vindictiveness, hostility and hate against the Catholic Church is no different than the liberal "hack" news writer editorialist, who "over-exaggerate their(front-page)opinions when it comes to attacking priests. To begin with, yours and other anti-catholics are so "out of touch" with (what "todays definition" of sexual abuse is that "buffoons" like you attach the word "sexual rape" to every priest when accused. The definition of abuse in todays world is: 1) grabbing the arm of a
person2) striking a student on the rear end (or anywhere) with a ruler, 3) startling someone from behind) by placing a hand on each shoulder, 4) making a statement that offends a person 5)actual sexual contact (the least common) of all abuses that have been brought to trial for conviction (less that 1/2 of 1% of priests worldwide. No one is saying that ACTUAL SEXUAL ABUSIVE priests should not be behind bars, but lets get the "real facts" and the "real truth". Actual Protestant sexual abuse cases = or exceeds that of the Catholic Church and Public School Abuses (reported and unreported are 30-40% greater than in ANY Catholic or Protestant Church. Of course the mainstream media liberals wouldn't (dare) touch these Protestant or Public School abuse cases with "front page stories" because it would uncover a Nationwide outcry of anger for a full and complete investigation that would make undermine the entire Public School system.---Yes Michael---UNBELIEVABLE----but BELIEVABLE!!!!!!
HOJO says......Michael!! Your vindictiveness, hostility and hate against the Catholic Church.

Michael says.....Ever read any of your own posts you make towards protestants with your name calling and insults?

You live in a little bubble. You hate protestants, I read your posts, you hate liberal catholics, you hate the american catholic nuns because many of them have higher educations than their bishops and they spend too much time helping the poor and not speaking against abortions. You live in a tiny little bubble world.

Thats it! You are the bubble boy.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#497906 Dec 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
A Muslim believes that the 12th Imam exists to love him/her. I suggest that YOU don't accept that the Muslim is telling truth, but rather that he/she is telling a lie. However you WILL believe that YOU are telling the truth when you claim that Jesus exists to in turn love YOU.
Religion always was ... and IS very tricky that way. It's selfish to its core.
NO JUNE ..if s,person says he believes whatever as Star and the others or a,Muslim believed,in..I WOULD NOT ACCUSE THEM OF LYING...as,I HSVE no way of knowing if a poser believes what they say they believe ..

A assume THEY are being truthful in what they believe ..I Don't have to
Believe the same .

If I say a, person imlieded something ..And they did ..that's,not lying .
Either .

I try not to impute wrong motives or dishonesty to people ..
Or call names or insult hem personally.

Again ...don't mean I think their belief is correct ..
Michael

Terrace Bay, Canada

#497907 Dec 7, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
You missed my point. I suspect YOU of being attracted to children. I base this off your repetitive devotion to the subject. You don't seem to mind that statistics show you are attacking the wrong group. Statistics show there are more in your family than ours.
Our Church does have a zero tolerance policy. We lay people can't even go on a school field trip unless we get screened and attend a 3 hr class. Even if a Priest is accused (with or without evidence) he's immediately removed until its investigated by the police. Now if only other folks, like the Canadian school system could follow our lead. You understand there are more pedophiles in your school system don't you? Maybe you should devout your time to that!
I have no doubt in my mind who you are. I believe thats why you attack Church.


Michael says.....So anyone who supports victims of sexual abuse and most of them are grown men who have lived with this horror and agony for decades is attracted to children? The SNAP organization that is an avenue for those abused shouldn't be because they want justice from your church leaders? You are an A-hole.

Maybe one day you will grow the stones that are required to lose the FEAR in voicing your concern that your very own church leaders have lied, deceived and covered up the worst sins of all..........and you have the gall to deflect the issue because you don't want anyone saying anything bad about your church leaders who have made a fool out of you. Now I understand!

You don't like any media reporting stories about your church, because you are embarassed, but you will never give in and say 'WHAT THE HELL HAS BEEN GOING ON" its always someone elses fault.

UNBELIEVABLE!





“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#497908 Dec 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
A Muslim believes that the 12th Imam exists to love him/her. I suggest that YOU don't accept that the Muslim is telling truth, but rather that he/she is telling a lie. However you WILL believe that YOU are telling the truth when you claim that Jesus exists to in turn love YOU.
Religion always was ... and IS very tricky that way. It's selfish to its core.
And BTW we exist to Love Him ..npt vice versa ..But it is our choice whether or not ..we do .
Michael

Terrace Bay, Canada

#497909 Dec 7, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a point. Let's examine a few facts. Did you give money to the Roman Catholic church over the past let's say 10 years? Did you know a portion of your offering was spent to defend the pedophile priests. StarC, when you said, quote "No one supports filthy dirty men, you are wrong." End quote. StarC, you are wrong. A portion of YOUR money did and does support filthy dirty men.
You are involved up to your ears! When you continue to support the Roman Catholic church and its cover-up of the perversion you are complicit in the crimes.
What is most disturbing is that the very church leaders in authority (the bishops) have lied, deceived, and covered up these crimes making complete fools out of the followers. This has played out right across america, canada and the rest of the world.

3 years ago Pope Benedict said we have to change. The church will be more transparent and have ZERO TOLERANCE for such criminal activity by clergy.

http://m.startribune.com/news/...

What do we have, the arch-diocese of St Paul Minnesota paying lobbyists $800,000 to vote against changing the law to bring the names forward of criminal clergy.

If catholics REALLY cared about human life, they would be just as vocal against sexual abusers as they are against women who have abortions..........but they are not!!

I support all victims of crime men, women, children, and I will ALWAYS speak out against those responsible. Catholics should be ashamed of themselves for their FEAR to speak out against there church leaders. DISGUSTING!

OldJG

Rockford, IL

#497910 Dec 7, 2013
Here is another fact about the early church. Not the Roman Catholic church....this is about the early church. Thanks, OldJG

http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/sola-scrip...
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#497911 Dec 7, 2013
Can a saved person become lost?

http://christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-t006.ht...
Michael

Terrace Bay, Canada

#497912 Dec 7, 2013


Former catholic priest Herman Hegger, his life in a monastary.



MY EFFORTS IN THE MONASTERY

......During my childhood I often heard it said that one of the best ways to escape from eternal hell was to enter a monastery. I decided to follow that advice. Monastic life is meant to cultivate strong will power and make one capable of controlling all passions and lusts. In my monastery, various forms of bodily torture were employed to achieve such will power. We scourged ourselves several times a week, lashing our naked bodies with knotted cords. Despite the great pain, we were told that if we could endure such whipping calmly, we would receive strength to resist every kind of sensual and sexual urge. We were also told that by scourging ourselves we could atone for sins we had already committed and so shorten future punishment in Purgatory. Around our waists, thighs and arms we wore penitence chains on which were spikes which dug into our flesh. There were also many other kinds of "bodily chastisement."

......Along with self-inflicted punishments, we had other kinds of humbling exercises designed to extinguish our pride and vanity. In one of these routines a priest had to lie on the floor across a doorway so that other priests would tread on him as they went by. Whenever I did this I felt like a worm upon which people trod, but I thought that God must be very pleased with me for such a voluntary self-humiliation.

.....The worst humiliation included licking an area of the floor clean with our tongues. Doing this made me feel like an animal, like a pig wallowing in the mire or a dog sniffing around. Sometimes I even felt like an insect creeping in the dust.

....But however I punished and humiliated myself, I could not detect any change or improvement in my character or behavior. I only discovered that my weak and sinful nature was very much alive. For example, when I licked the floor clean with my tongue, it was just then that the strongest feelings of vanity and pride rose up in me. What a wonderful chap you are, I would think. What will power you must have. You inflict such painful humiliations upon yourself. How wonderful!

Catholics will say, well Michael whats wrong with that? You hate the church Michael.(lol)

UNBELIEVABLE!

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#497913 Dec 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
I suggest that there is NO holy or evil spirit lurking anywhere to which I must obey, fear, or submit my emotions through groveling.
I've made my peace with me, and each moment of each new day, I can do no better than my best.
Who did you suggest that to? Your Doctor? Plz stay on the meds. You sound very paranoid. Why are you so afraid?

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#497914 Dec 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
I suggest that what most Christians don't realize is that their supposed savior (had he lived,) was also a preacher of anti-Semitic messages.
"Within the theology," Jesus lead the people AWAY from Judaism.
Yet the ONLY god (by the various names of Adonai, or Jehovah, or Elohim, et cetera) in the Abrahamic religion, was created BY Jews, for Jewish USE ONLY.
Religion is ALL BUNK!
You have the freedom and right to follow your atheist religion. But your anti-religion is nothing more then hate. You are a hater, look in the mirror, you are worst then those in any religion.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#497915 Dec 7, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Just a point. Let's examine a few facts. Did you give money to the Roman Catholic church over the past let's say 10 years? Did you know a portion of your offering was spent to defend the pedophile priests. StarC, when you said, quote "No one supports filthy dirty men, you are wrong." End quote. StarC, you are wrong. A portion of YOUR money did and does support filthy dirty men.
You are involved up to your ears! When you continue to support the Roman Catholic church and its cover-up of the perversion you are complicit in the crimes.
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
What is most disturbing is that the very church leaders in authority (the bishops) have lied, deceived, and covered up these crimes making complete fools out of the followers. This has played out right across america, canada and the rest of the world.
3 years ago Pope Benedict said we have to change. The church will be more transparent and have ZERO TOLERANCE for such criminal activity by clergy.
http://m.startribune.com/news/...
What do we have, the arch-diocese of St Paul Minnesota paying lobbyists $800,000 to vote against changing the law to bring the names forward of criminal clergy.
If catholics REALLY cared about human life, they would be just as vocal against sexual abusers as they are against women who have abortions..........but they are not!!
I support all victims of crime men, women, children, and I will ALWAYS speak out against those responsible. Catholics should be ashamed of themselves for their FEAR to speak out against there church leaders. DISGUSTING!
Well said. Thank you. OldJG.
Michael

Terrace Bay, Canada

#497916 Dec 7, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Billy Graham's son. It's been in all the news.
Its been all over the news!! WOW! Thanks for telling us, now maybe you can enlighten us about the many of the wrong doings of many of your very own church leaders........NO! Michael I won't do that, I will NEVER report anything bad about our own, but I like pointing out sins of other group leaders.

How did I know that?
Husker Du

Falls City, NE

#497917 Dec 7, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
What is most disturbing is that the very church leaders in authority (the bishops) have lied, deceived, and covered up these crimes making complete fools out of the followers. This has played out right across america, canada and the rest of the world.
3 years ago Pope Benedict said we have to change. The church will be more transparent and have ZERO TOLERANCE for such criminal activity by clergy.
http://m.startribune.com/news/...
What do we have, the arch-diocese of St Paul Minnesota paying lobbyists $800,000 to vote against changing the law to bring the names forward of criminal clergy.
If catholics REALLY cared about human life, they would be just as vocal against sexual abusers as they are against women who have abortions..........but they are not!!
I support all victims of crime men, women, children, and I will ALWAYS speak out against those responsible. Catholics should be ashamed of themselves for their FEAR to speak out against there church leaders. DISGUSTING!
Remember what billy Graham's son said? Don't cast stones unless you haven't sinned, Michael. you protestants have a huge problem with pedophilia and you protestants will not address the problem. We did.
Michael

Terrace Bay, Canada

#497918 Dec 7, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Well a famous protestant minister said that PROTESTANT ministers are abusing young children three times more than any priest. Yep, Mikey, you need to look in your own house before ytou throw stones . clean up your 50,000 thousand protestsnt churches, K?
I was raised a ROMAN CATHOLIC.........I left 15 years ago, like many are doing today. Just like everyone else knows yes there are criminals in every walk of life, but an organization like the roman catholic church is at the top of the leader board with coverups, lies and deceit moving offending clergy "SYSTEMATICALLY" from parish to parish, without even notifying the new parish "HIDE YOUR CHILDREN" As you know this has gone on SYSTEMATICALLY around the world with the exact same method of operation. Now how could that happen without VATICAN assistance? LIE to the parishioners why a offending priest is getting moved. Deceive the victims family by telling them their son must be lying, and cover it all up from everyone for 17 centuries until the number of cases became so overwhelming they couldn't cover them up anymore.

Your own catholic church has canon laws and papal documents that date back 1700 years with not being able to get a handle on sexually offending clergy.

Read about it below including the churches very own CANON laws..

http://www.awrsipe.com/patrick_wall/executive...

I bring the truth to those that don't want to believe the truth. Very sad indeed.......

Michael

Terrace Bay, Canada

#497919 Dec 7, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Remember what billy Graham's son said? Don't cast stones unless you haven't sinned, Michael. you protestants have a huge problem with pedophilia and you protestants will not address the problem. We did.
...It was NEVER any of your church leaders who ever dialed 9-1-1 to report these crimes. It was ALWAYS! the victims and their families. The only reason we now know about all these crimes and they have occured in almost all 195 dioceses in america and every diocese in Canada and around the world is because the number of cases became so overwhelming the church couldn't lie and cover them up anymore......PERIOD!

Were not talking about stealing a loaf of bread, we are talking about the most disgusting sins of all.

You and I were taught from a young age by priests/nuns that we could not receive the eucharist with sins on our souls and sinful to cover up sins, yet for centuries priests/bishops/cardinals covered up sins and the most sinful acts often for years, to protect the offenders, NOT the victims yet these clergy who had knowledge of these sins and covered them up, gave themselves the eucharist at every mass they said, but telling us we could NEVER receive the eucharist with such sins on our souls.

Who is ZOOMING who??

HIPOCRACY! at the highest level.

If anything I posted is incorrect please give your reasons why.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#497920 Dec 7, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
NO JUNE ..if s,person says he believes whatever as Star and the others or a,Muslim believed,in..I WOULD NOT ACCUSE THEM OF LYING...as,I HSVE no way of knowing if a poser believes what they say they believe ..
A assume THEY are being truthful in what they believe ..I Don't have to
Believe the same .
If I say a, person imlieded something ..And they did ..that's,not lying .
Either .
I try not to impute wrong motives or dishonesty to people ..
Or call names or insult hem personally.
Again ...don't mean I think their belief is correct ..
Of course the Muslim is being truthful by his/her concept of truth, just as YOU are being truthful based on YOUR concept of truth that Jesus LOVES you. But concepts of truth do not guarantee that you OWN truth. That is my point.

I could claim that a gorilla was in love with me, but I doubt that you would believe that the gorilla actually WAS in love with me.

I suggest my belief that a gorilla was in love with me would be based on a lie, even THOUGH I believed it was based on truth.

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