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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 599890 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#496632 Dec 2, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Aren't you the one who told us last year you started your SECOND BUSINESS? A second business! Millions of homeless with no job. How much freaken! money do you need?
Talk about HIPOCRITCY!
This discussion board is not the place (nor is there any proper place) to be bragging about what I do with what God has given me. It's also not the proper place to be criticizing the perceived wealth and distribution of that perceived wealth by the ignorant and unaware. Best just to be quiet and do what Christ asks of us.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#496633 Dec 2, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>well here's a shocker for ya...I believe that NO Church should have the wealth like the Vatican has while there is people in need.How about that. But NO Church has the wealth as equal to the Vatican. How's that.
Seraphima

Peace

Those storing up earthly wealth will get what they deserve.

I have noticed you lately have put down the RCC a lot lately because of earthly wealth.

The question is, if the RCC sold all its churches and wealth, and fed the poor, then who would feed them after that?

Jesus did not condemn earthly wealth, or the wealthy. If someone is wealthy, he did not command them to sell it all, and give it to the poor, so in turn they could go to heaven. Rather it is a matter of good stewardship of that wealth, and setting one's sight on heavenly things which is more important.

It is just as tempting for a poor person desiring to be rich, and a rich person desiring earthly wealth and power, to fail at seeking heavenly things....

Peace

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#496634 Dec 2, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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The Catholic theologians wrote that only Catholics could be saved. And the Protestant theologians wrote that only Protestants could be saved.
And you choose to stand in the dark shadows of your favorite theologians.
God wrote it, and the catholic church is simply a man made church as they have nothing to do with god. If you have read the bible you would know this without a doubt, so read the bible and see what I say is true or not. Tell me, when you pick up a bible and read it do you see anything about a catholic church? No is the answer, because the catholic church isn't the church of the bible, the Church of Christ is. Here's the reason why, the catholic church doesn't worship according to the bible, it's as simple as that. A few church members delighted in the attention the Roman Dignitaries were giving them and they replied by doing as these Dignitaries wished, and that's why they broke off from the Church of Christ and thus you have the man made religion called the catholic church.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#496635 Dec 2, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
Custodian!! Well then Anthony I dare you to tell the vatican you would like your share of the wealth that the church is holding for humanity.(lol)

I can't believe catholics fall for this nonsense. BILLIONS of investments all around the world. The largest real estate holder on the planet bar none, and the Pope wants to punish those "others" with wealth....

Is God all about BLING? Or is God all about sharing the wealth?



Human Being

Sunset, LA

#496636 Dec 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
JESUS IS COMING SOON..
ARE YOU READY
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren,
be ye stedfast,
unmoveable,
always abounding in the work of the Lord,
forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
----
Luk 12:37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.
Luk 12:38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
Luk 12:39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Luk 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.
confrInting

I would hope all of us on the thread are looking for the moment, the "twinkling of the eye". And working for that moment....

At this time of beginning of the Advent season, the expectation for Catholics, is the remembering of Jesus Christ arrival in the past, and hopeful expectation of his coming....Maranatha!

Peace
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#496637 Dec 2, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Seraphima
Peace
Those storing up earthly wealth will get what they deserve.
I have noticed you lately have put down the RCC a lot lately because of earthly wealth.
The question is, if the RCC sold all its churches and wealth, and fed the poor, then who would feed them after that?
Jesus did not condemn earthly wealth, or the wealthy. If someone is wealthy, he did not command them to sell it all, and give it to the poor, so in turn they could go to heaven. Rather it is a matter of good stewardship of that wealth, and setting one's sight on heavenly things which is more important.
It is just as tempting for a poor person desiring to be rich, and a rich person desiring earthly wealth and power, to fail at seeking heavenly things....
Peace
Human Being says.......The question is, if the RCC sold all its churches and wealth, and fed the poor, then who would feed them after that?

Michael says.........We have to get the poor to understand priorities. If you claim to be poor your kids shouldn't have Iphones that are more expensive then the ones their teachers own. If you are poor you shouldn't have a pack of cigarettes in your shirt pocket, or a fist full of lottery tickets, or a case of beer in the trunk of the taxi cab they just hired.

We have to seperate the unfortunates from the ones who don't know how to handle what they have..........and there are lots!
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#496638 Dec 2, 2013
These calls though are reminiscent of the Apostle Judas who protested at Mary Magdalene’s use of costly ointment on the feet of Jesus’ which was followed by the Gospel writers’ astute comment,“he did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief”. How many of those who criticise the Church for her alleged wealth are concerned about the poor rather than simply desiring to bring down the influence of Christianity in society? It is not wealth in and of itself that is evil but an inordinate attachment to it. None the less the Church does and should have a preferential option for the poor and Pope Francis has rightly expressed his desire for a Church that is poor and for the poor. So just how wealthy is the Catholic Church?
When people think of the supposed wealth of the Church they most likely picture the grandeur of St Peter’s Basilica and the works of art within the walls of the Vatican. It is wise to recall though that the Church does not consider itself the owners of these items but rather the custodians of them for all humanity. For if the Catholic Church had not safeguarded the great treasures of culture for two thousand years through war and through peace, who do we suppose was going to do it? Something else worth remembering is that many of the pieces that are today regarded as great works of art were originally created as works of devotion, and the only reason they have existed long enough to be considered so valuable, is again because the Catholic Church has watched over them with solicitude across the centuries.

The Vatican has for some years publically released its annual budget, although as a sovereign nation it is under no requirement to do so. The Vatican runs with an annual operating budget of around $300 million but keep in mind that the Vatican employs close to 3000 people and supports 1000 retirees. With that same money it keeps St Peter’s Basilica and the key Churches of Rome in operation, it maintains the Vatican museums and provides important missionary services such as the Vatican radio and newspaper. This budget does not include the monies that are sent in from the lay faithful around the world to support the charitable works of the Pope known as ‘Peter’s Pence’. Totaling around $70 million each year, Peter’s Pence is used to support ecclesial communities most often in mission countries who have no one else to turn too. The Vatican Bank, or more properly, the Institute for the Works of Religion, controls a much larger amount of money estimated to be around $6 billion, however most of it is not the money of the Vatican but religious orders, dioceses and Catholic organisations which use the money for their particular work of ministry and charity.

The specific ‘wealth’ of the Vatican does not cover the many dioceses in individual nations which essentially manage their own expenditure. As an example, it has been estimated by The Economist that the Catholic Church in the USA spends collectively in excess of $170 billion each year but this is not on caviar and fine wine. The money goes to fund healthcare, universities, schools, parishes, charities and the payroll of the one million people who work for the Church and make it all happen (this includes the tens of thousands of priests and religious who give their lives for Christ and the service of the Church and must be thus housed and provided for).

Those who think the Catholic Church has a lot of money are correct but those who think the Church holds onto money for the sake of it are incorrect. The Catholic Church is not a ‘fly by night’ organisation that is flippant about money. Working to bring the message of Jesus Christ to every generation and to serve the needs of humanity requires funds, and as the single most charitable private organisation on the planet the Catholic Church uses its money as a wise steward should.

http://caritasetveritas.com/2013/03/the-myth-...
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#496639 Dec 2, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
confrInting
I would hope all of us on the thread are looking for the moment, the "twinkling of the eye". And working for that moment....
At this time of beginning of the Advent season, the expectation for Catholics, is the remembering of Jesus Christ arrival in the past, and hopeful expectation of his coming....Maranatha!
Peace
Amen!! A blessed Advent to you, Robert.

Rorate Caeli...
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#496640 Dec 2, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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exactly.
The CHURCH where I was Baptized shared space with 3different Congregations ..had to merge with a home CHURCH just to make repairs,.
Some of he,evangelistic ministries,..who broadcast and do internet going all over the world ..yes need support.
I like a,lot of Christian TV ..And,think even.the movies,bring a,message that individuals can't convey to certain people,..That takes,money ...to do Gods,work
Ministers,ate entitled to make a living for self and family ..
But big mega churches touting wealth ..I just don't get ..
Internally the,Vatican bank or the,wealth of Rome ..I st the impression the New pope doesn't either ..
Art ..buildings,..all beautiful ..treasures awesome ..But is,this,EHAT JESUS talked about ....NO
Would ST Peter live in the Vatican??? Sit on His,chair ..Wear a,ring to be kissed??? I really don't think.so ...
RoSesz

Peace

To be honest, I am not one impressed with earthly wealth. It comes and goes....

I don't think the new Pope Francis is all that impressed with it. I don't know if he is still in a small apartment. But I think we all have some mixed feelings as he may have possible "liberal" tolerances. You have mentioned it in the past.

How much and in what direction he as one man can affect the RCC remains to be seen.

Peace

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#496641 Dec 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
THE INFLUENCE ALONE SPAWNED BY
THE IDOLATRY OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIGIOUS SOCIETY...
ON THE EARTH IS...
You are quite the Protestant preacher of "LOVE!!!"

You and Martin Luther could have taken on pope Leo X just by flashing your chosen scriptures at him.

How funny you are in your little rooster costume.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#496642 Dec 2, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Seraphima
Peace
Those storing up earthly wealth will get what they deserve.
I have noticed you lately have put down the RCC a lot lately because of earthly wealth.
The question is, if the RCC sold all its churches and wealth, and fed the poor, then who would feed them after that?
Jesus did not condemn earthly wealth, or the wealthy. If someone is wealthy, he did not command them to sell it all, and give it to the poor, so in turn they could go to heaven. Rather it is a matter of good stewardship of that wealth, and setting one's sight on heavenly things which is more important.
It is just as tempting for a poor person desiring to be rich, and a rich person desiring earthly wealth and power, to fail at seeking heavenly things....
Peace
The Parable of the Talents comes to mind.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#496643 Dec 2, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
confrInting
I would hope all of us on the thread are looking for the moment, the "twinkling of the eye". And working for that moment....
At this time of beginning of the Advent season, the expectation for Catholics, is the remembering of Jesus Christ arrival in the past, and hopeful expectation of his coming....Maranatha!
Peace
It's all about YOU and your own reflection ... oh self-centered one.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#496644 Dec 2, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> God wrote it,
Did you SEE one of those human-created gods HOLDING a pen in his invisible hand.

The more they come, the more dumbed-down they get.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#496645 Dec 2, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Liar.
GOD WILL DECIDE WHOM THE LIAR IS...

AND BE SURE YOU SINS WILL FIND YOU OUT...

question..

CAN YOU NAME ANY PART OF CHRISTIANITY THAT THE (so called} ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HASN'T ATTEMPTED TO CORRUPT..

Even with the invention of ST NICK...SANTA CLAUSE ....

THE BIRTH OF JESUS OUR LORD HAS BEEN TURNED INTO FABLES, MYTHS AND WITCHCRAFT..

WITH THE NORTH POLE, ELVES, SLEIGH, REINDEER, RUDOLPH FROSTY THE SNOW MAN ETC.

WHICH REPLACES THE COMMEMORATIVE EVENT OF THE BIRTH OF CHRIST.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#496646 Dec 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
2) how the hell do i know what YOUR "fruit" is just from a few things you said on the internet??? i.e.;
If you were called by a god to preach, you should know all things that the god knows.

Silly people.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#496647 Dec 2, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
So if the Roman hierarchy were living in opulence, where did they get the money for an army?
For starters ... The ex-Jew Catholics stole from the wealthy Jews ... and through the centuries from any other group they could get their hands on by referring to them as heretics.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#496648 Dec 2, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Trying to rewrite history. Doesn't surprise me, for someone that's Always Wrong June!
Were YOU wrong when YOU were an Atheist???

Mr. see-through Robert F.

:)
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#496649 Dec 2, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Custodian!! Well then Anthony I dare you to tell the vatican you would like your share of the wealth that the church is holding for humanity.(lol)
I can't believe catholics fall for this nonsense. BILLIONS of investments all around the world. The largest real estate holder on the planet bar none, and the Pope wants to punish those "others" with wealth....
Is God all about BLING? Or is God all about sharing the wealth?
We provide food, shelter, clothing, counseling, monetary support, job placement services, education and much more at my Local Church. We could sell the acreage it sits on (which was bought and paid for many years ago by the congregation) to commercial developers for millions. Where would the poor go to after the money was gone?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#496650 Dec 2, 2013
November 14, 2009

Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>

Greetings June

It is fear that makes the KNOW. Fear of death, and fear of hell, and fear of not making it to heaven.....Religion is based on fear....

Robert

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#496651 Dec 2, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you SEE one of those human-created gods HOLDING a pen in his invisible hand.
The more they come, the more dumbed-down they get.
Do I need to if I believe in God, I don't think so. You use faith everyday in someway or another.

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