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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493003 Nov 19, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>June, when did topix start slipping in advertising?
I had to wait for one of those video commercials before they let me comment!
They really stick it to the public. Sons a' b#tches!
I suggest you pray to Jehovah to throw a curse on those S.O.B.s.

You might hit a slam-dunk!

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493004 Nov 19, 2013
It took from the time of Martin Luther until several centuries of Protestant and Catholic fighting to get them to where they are today, in a begrudging acceptance that in America they have to put up with each other.

But the Muslims that are still stuck in their theocratic mindsets in other countries are not so easy to persuade, that the fighting should now be done with words rather than suicide bombs et cetera.

Christians in Muslim countries are fighting a losing battle and paying for the battle with their lives.

If the Christians arm their selves ... they will lose, as they are way out-numbered. And if they don't arm their selves, they are simply comparable sitting ducks, as the Muslims are taught and believe that the Christians are offenders of Allah's (God's) will.

It's a blood-soaked shame that children are being killed every day by the ongoing religious insanity of the parents.
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#493005 Nov 19, 2013
"MY TOOTH!" Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#493006 Nov 19, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
So its political not theological?
fascism?
(that's why the liberal left scares the heck out of me)
We,totally agree,there.
I cannot for the LUFE of me understand,.
Why so many Catholics,and a,percentage of ,non Catholics,voted for these people,we,now,have,running the COUNTRY...
The secularism. What's,taught now,in the schools,we all pay for ..abortion promoters,and socialists,.
Socialism tries to pretend it's charitable and I've heard prayers,in a,Catholic church for the Social safety net .
But good grief ..it has,never worked ..has,wreaked havoc on every country and is,the least efficient way to help anyone .
I get that some families,need help.until they get on their feet ..But we have made it a way of life for some families ...
The whole great Society broke up. Families who remain today thinking we don't need marriage ..we have UNCLE ''who gives us JUST ENOUGH to survive and vote them back in ..generations with no dad and a big check at tax time and food stamps and now taking on health card which if you haven't been slammed with this year ...Will hit he fan next year..of course after these congress folks WHO EXEMPTED THEMSELVES
get reelected ..
next year it hits the ones getting insurance at work ...worse plan..higher deductibles ..higher contribution ..why?? Because you work
And the system these people BELUEVE in socks it to workers and small businesses ...And they think this is good .
Just saying think hard ..ITS NOT CHARITY ..if it hurts society ...
Give money o a good charity..don't vote to give more money to the government .
And I hate to bring this up...
No one gets a,job from a company legislated out of existence .
It takes money to make it ..I never made much. Have worked 3jobs in the past ...But if the ones with money eh o paid me ..didn't have it . I would be in deep trouble ...
We prospered because of capitalism.
And taking money from someone else who is richer ..o where they go out of business does not put a car in my driveway ..this class warfare has to stop ..or we all drown
And voting in liberals promotes abortion..no matter how altruistic hey sound .
So for a Christian IMO to vote for those people or vote third party
Because they don't like someone's religion or the tea party
because of the safety net ...they are responsible for more abortions
Because they put thE libs in office
Chess

Brecksville, OH

#493007 Nov 19, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that all images of deities are pretend.
But for those who believe in the one-god image ... Jehovah is the only male god of the Abrahamic religion, and in turn it is emotional adultery to try to steal another man's god away from him.
And (within the illusion of theology) that is the devious game played by the Catholics, Muslims and Protestants.
Oh my! How awful!

A Hebrew myth, patterned after other pilfered myths, was yet again recycled.

Think of the emotional trauma inflicted!!!

Next thing you know, dogs and cats will be living together!!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493008 Nov 19, 2013
Someone suggested to me a few days back that from her perspective the United States encouraged the Jews to create the state of Israel so that the Muslims and Jews would fight each other rather than fighting the United States.

I don't believe that is true, because it was Harry Truman (against the emphatic suggestions of his top advisors) that gave his support to the Jews in the creation of the state of Israel.

And in that regard Truman was a dictator.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>

From the book “Plain Speaking”… Harry S. Truman … by Merle Miller
“But getting back to what you were asking about, that morning I saw Rabbi Wise. It was late in the morning, and I remember, he said,‘Mr. President, I’m not sure if you’re aware of the reasons underlying the wish of the Jewish people for a homeland.’
“He was just as polite as he possibly could be, but I’ve told you in those days nobody seemed to think I was aware of anything. I said I knew all about the history of the Jews
“But I said as far as I was concerned, the United States would do all that it could to help the Jews set up a homeland. I didn’t tell him that I’d already had a communication from some of the ‘striped pants’ boys warning me … in effect telling me to watch my step, that I didn’t really understand what was going on over there and that I ought to leave it to the experts.*
“I told him I knew all about experts. I said that an expert was a fella who was afraid to learn anything new because then he wouldn’t be an expert anymore.
“And I said that some of the experts, the career fellas in the State Department, thought that they ought to make policy but that as long as I was President, I’d see to it that I made policy. Their job was to carry it out, and if there were some who didn’t like it, they could resign anytime they felt like it.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493009 Nov 19, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
"MY TOOTH!" Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I gather your prayer didn't work in your favor!

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493010 Nov 19, 2013
I suggest that Truman was another Protestant who used the bible to support his notion that the Jews had to go back to their "homeland" before Jesus would come to rescue Harry and his Protestant clique.
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From the book “Plain Speaking”… Harry S. Truman … by Merle Miller

“But as I started to say … it wasn’t just the Biblical part about Palestine that interested me.
hojo

Chaska, MN

#493011 Nov 19, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
We all simply have opinions ... and opinions are a dime a dozen, as is proved over and over on this forum.
The Catholic Church doesn't formulate its TRUTH of TRUE doctrinal teachings on "opinions" in regards to "faith and morals" or ANY of its other teachings, that have existed for over 2000 years! We'll leave the ("what-ever I think") confused and chaotic opinions to the sola scriptura Protestants!!!!It is the "entire basis" of their "mish-mash" of beliefs!!!....... Every one of the 42,100+ bible only Protestant contradicting, inconsistent and conflicting denominations (TOTALLY) rely upon their "own personal editorialized opinions" when it comes to following their (merry-go-round) hodge-podge of "relative truth" beliefs...If opinionated "prodigal son/daughter "opinionated Catholics", don't agree with the TRUTH of the TRUE biblical and historical teachings of Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church, they can "go down the street" and join the nearest Protestant Church and their "editorialist ministers" will tell them what they want to hear!!! i.e. abortion, gay marriage, euthenasia, women ministers, embroyonic stem cell research, homosexual preachers, etc. or whatever direction the next "liberal politically correct" wind happens to blow! There is "ONLY ONE TRUTH" ---not---42,100+ Protestant "relative truths"---------- and that ONE TRUTH has, is and will continue to be grounded and manifested from over 2000 years of biblical and historical TRUTHS in Jesus Christ and HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church!!!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493012 Nov 19, 2013
Chess wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh my! How awful!
A Hebrew myth, patterned after other pilfered myths, was yet again recycled.
Think of the emotional trauma inflicted!!!
Next thing you know, dogs and cats will be living together!!!
Dogs and cats already live together and as long as they both have full stomachs and get used to each other, they can manage quite well.

But people in religion don't get along ... because their greed wants others to believe that all the holy KNOWLEDGE stuff came floating on a cloud their way and that all others are not only dumb but are EVIL fodder of devils ... to boot.
Human Being

Jena, LA

#493013 Nov 19, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Then why do you think religion rejects this needed component, yet promotes it throughout?
<quoted text>
Christianity rejects the tenet of Self, even though everything that is required to do in religion requires a person to take the action, not the organization.
Attaining what you call "self-knowledge" is quite different than attaining knowledge about the Self. Two different paths.
"Self-knowledge" could be constued as knowledge attained within yourself from birth - meaning that you already have this info embedded.
Learning knowledge is not "Self-knowledge" because it is acquired externally from one's mind.
Like faith is learned, learning to know yourSelf, is the same.
One is required to seek the most inner depths of their mind and memory for the faults they had, have or in the midst of. No religion will correct these "crosses we bear". Only you can.
The understanding of "Self" brings upon another wonderful attribute of the human mind - self-awareness - which is also NOT self-knowledge.
NASL

Peace

I suppose, or set the proposition that when you speak of Self-knowledge, and Self-awareness, it is similar to in Christianity as the discovery, uncovering, or rethinking of the pre-fall of humanity.

I think most people think, or have an instinct of the "perfect" human being, in the "perfect" place..., Adam and Eve in the Garden.

And it is to this rediscovering some characteristics of that "pre-fall perfection" in one's life brings about an "enlightening" process. The question is what them promotes the process, and what inhibits the process of rediscovery and enlightenment?

I can only speak in general terms, but what is selfish inhibits, and what is kind and loving promotes the process, at least in terms of Christianity(though I can't speak for all Christians in this matter).

Resistance and stagnation are most likely the inner turmoil, the struggle of angels and demons within the soul. Keeping the faith, not stubbornness, is then pursuing the process toward the good.

I hope that is understandable?

Peace
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493014 Nov 19, 2013
On the program "Animal Cops" the speakers were telling of how those who fight the dogs refer to (for instance) the pit bulls that lose heart to fight other dogs as currs, and once a dog is labeled as a "curr" it is put to death as useless.

Another interesting point on that program, was how when the dogs mate to reproduce, their first instinct is not to mate, but to kill ... so they must tied in such a way by their owners so as not to kill each other.

And one more issue I found of interest was, that the dogs recued by the humane society were not mean to humans, so they could be handled with ease without threat of bites whatsoever, but because they would kill another dog at the very sight of the dog, they were not adoptable and all had to be euthanized.

They took 85 dogs from one owner and had to put them all to sleep.

It was probably the first time the dogs had any peace.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493015 Nov 19, 2013
Harry Truman didn't observe any warnings as he was certain he was a god unto his self. And now we see the aftermath of his Protestant idea that the Jews had to go back to their "homeland" so Jesus could come at last.
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From the book “Plain Speaking”… Harry S. Truman … by Merle Miller

*As reproduced in the Memoirs, the State Department communications read:“It is very likely that efforts will be made by some of the Zionist leaders to obtain from you at an early date some commitments in favor of the Zionist program which is pressing for unlimited Jewish immigration into Palestine and the establishment there of a Jewish state. As you are aware, the Government and people of the United States have every sympathy for the persecuted Jews of Europe and are doing all in their power to relieve their suffering. The question of Palestine is, however, a highly complex one and involves questions which go far beyond the plight of the Jews in Europe.
Human Being

Jena, LA

#493016 Nov 19, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Does that INCLUDE you ... of the royal family of Catholicism?
You are a riot!
:)
June

Getting lost in a crowd is quite easy. So for sure, there are people within many religions, including Catholicism that get lost. Information overload, or one is just not ready to understand and know the truth....

Pursue the truth, walk with the truth, and one can anticipate it with practice to spontaneity. In essence God will give the Law within one's heart as He Promised....

It is the El Camino Real....The Royal Road.
Peace
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493017 Nov 19, 2013
When a Jew such as Einstein was against a state of Israel moving into Palestinian territory, it bespeaks of the idea that he knew the aggression of the Jews to keep taking more and more, and showing no respect whatsoever for the Muslims.

Gandhi was also against a Jewish State. He knew what would occur if the Jews had their way.

Aggression will not be stopped unless there is push from other sources, and as the Jews control the money in so many countries ... well ... it doesn't take a genius to know they won't stop of their own accords.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Vancouver, Canada

#493019 Nov 19, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
June
Getting lost in a crowd is quite easy. So for sure, there are people within many religions, including Catholicism that get lost. Information overload, or one is just not ready to understand and know the truth....
Pursue the truth, walk with the truth, and one can anticipate it with practice to spontaneity. In essence God will give the Law within one's heart as He Promised....
It is the El Camino Real....The Royal Road.
Peace
I suggest you go blow your double-talking Catholic trumpet in your church.
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#493020 Nov 19, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I gather your prayer didn't work in your favor!
:)
Not yet.
If you remember what it was like to have teeth,than you know I need lots of help.Och!
Chess

Columbus, OH

#493021 Nov 19, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Dogs and cats already live together and as long as they both have full stomachs and get used to each other, they can manage quite well.
But people in religion don't get along ... because their greed wants others to believe that all the holy KNOWLEDGE stuff came floating on a cloud their way and that all others are not only dumb but are EVIL fodder of devils ... to boot.
Of course dogs and cats live together, goofy.

Worrying about that is about as worthwhile as worrying about your "emotional trauma" over Christians using Hewbrew mythology -- which the Hebrews in fair measure borrowed from other cultures anyway.

What a hoot.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#493022 Nov 19, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
NASL
Peace
I suppose, or set the proposition that when you speak of Self-knowledge, and Self-awareness, it is similar to in Christianity as the discovery, uncovering, or rethinking of the pre-fall of humanity.
I think most people think, or have an instinct of the "perfect" human being, in the "perfect" place..., Adam and Eve in the Garden.
And it is to this rediscovering some characteristics of that "pre-fall perfection" in one's life brings about an "enlightening" process. The question is what them promotes the process, and what inhibits the process of rediscovery and enlightenment?
I can only speak in general terms, but what is selfish inhibits, and what is kind and loving promotes the process, at least in terms of Christianity(though I can't speak for all Christians in this matter).
Resistance and stagnation are most likely the inner turmoil, the struggle of angels and demons within the soul. Keeping the faith, not stubbornness, is then pursuing the process toward the good.
I hope that is understandable?
Peace
Oh it is -'To know yourself is to know the kingdom of God'

Yep it fits nicely.

But I think you are wrong with this statement:
"Resistance and stagnation are most likely the inner turmoil, the struggle of angels and demons within the soul."

I disagree any "being" is in my body, except for me.

To believe what you do, some folks may consider you delusional.
Michael

Canada

#493023 Nov 19, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Michael
Peace
"The names were changed to protect the innocent....", Dragnet(smiles)
True, no one can confirm, since there are no first-hand accounts due to most religions develop out of the past. But then first-hand accounts themselves are prejudiced as well. So if one depends on information alone to make decisions, then what? Are human beings simply to be reduced to be logic machines?
I can agree with you that family tradition has an important role in religion. No doubt about that. Yet, if that tradition conflicts with personal experience, then that does not necessarily negate the truth of the tradition or religion, merely that the person negates the tradition or religion.(There goes the old logic machine in my head....)smiles
So you cannot deny God's existence, nor the transmission of that information via religion. You may disagree, but that has no foundation if based on data alone. If one removes all prejudice and assumption, raw data exists, and then comes the assumption to accept or decline God's existence.
The main problem then is how can raw data exist without a Creator of that raw data? The logic machine must be programmed by a Programmer.
Peace
Human Being says........So you cannot deny God's existence. How can raw data exist without a creator of that raw data?

Michael says......Since the beginning of mankind, mankind has believed in gods or a god or higher power of some form, mostly based on fear, fear of the unknown. Religion teaches that their specific God is the creator of all.

Some believe in a monolithic God. Back in the day, there were those that believed in Gods with two heads, gods with 3 heads, christianity with 3 equal persons in one God... etc.

Everyone of faith wants to believe THEIR god or THEIR way of believing is the ONLY right and true God and way of believing.

Individual beliefs or Religions have been fighting for supremecy since the beginning of mankind..........and it will continue, as Gods of today will fade away and new Gods of the future will be worshipped..........it has always been that way and I don't see why it won't continue.

....not meant to offend.

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