-No Regina,sorry..Clay has Saud several one that the APOSTLES DID Not write..because Jesus,did not tell hem to...going back weeks ..
Which is kind of a Catch 22 since Jesus words come from the written Gospels.
Clay has held up Ignatius over the writings of Paul and the apostles.
If your priest says this is the Gospel according to John..do we BRLIEVE your priests or not.
I think THRY wrote or dictated their own writings ...through the guidance and inspiration of he HOLY SPIRIT .
My only point here is in the gloating about non authenticity to put down JG and Preston ..etc Reliance on Scripture .
The upshot of which to me is,against your own teAching...And giving
Fodder to the the atheists ..
Now the Catholic Church either believes it's own CANON or not ..
I THINK IT DOES ..for the most part despite scholars,like that Raymond person who casts,doubt on the Nativity story ...And Clay eh o seems to think we are foolish in believing scripture ...I've the writings,of your early father's ..
I'm not the one who did NOT include them in he CANON ..
However you are all free to believe as you wish ..I'm pretty sure the atheists will still niece it's a,myth anyway ..But talk like that IMO ..could cause DOUBT to young believers ...
-Get real. I never said the Apostles didn't write. And I never held up Ignatius writings over Paul. If you aren't smart enough to carry on a conversation without drawing bizarre conclusions, please let me know now. Bible facts completely ruin your religion and you know it. I point out how you Bible idolaters simply ignore everything you hear and mumble 'Bible Bible, word of God word of God'
That's not disrespecting the sacred scriptures on my part, it shows how YOU guys do.
The writings of the Disciples of the Apostles destroy Protestantism from the get go. They prove you guys have changed what Jesus Christ Himself taught. They validate Jesus' own words on things like "this is my body". You guys unraveled what the Lord installed. You think your justified because you interpret the Bible differently than Ignatius or Clement, and thats ok with you?? Just keep mumbling Bible Bible Bible and ignore everything you hear. The Earth is 5,000 yrs old; the Bible appeared out of thin air; everyone in Christianity interpreted it wrong until your born again movement saved the day.
Hrmmmm ... never held up Ignatius writings over Paul's?
Then WHY do you HOLD UP a POPE'S writings over Jesus. Surely you can see the hypocrisy?
JESUS said, "Love your neighbor as yourself."
Pope Innocent said, "TORTURE THE HERETICS."
Torture could be used after 1252. On May 15, Pope Innocent IV issued a papal bull entitled Ad extirpanda, which authorized the use of torture by inquisitors. Torture was undoubtedly used in the trial of the Templars, but is in fact not much found in heresy trials until the later fourteenth century.
SO - by YOUR definition WHO has "changed" what Jesus Christ Himself taught?
REALLY!..get really REAL!
But, I suspect for you to be able to get really real, you will first need to unravel your own thought process.
"Just keep mumbling Bible Bible Bible and ignore everything you hear."
Just keep mumbling Peter was the First Pope ... and ignore EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRITTEN.
"The Earth is 5,000 yrs old;"
The Bible does not say the earth is 5,000 years old.
"the Bible appeared out of thin air;"
THIN AIR? for who? No-one has said the Bible appeared out of thin air.
"everyone in Christianity interpreted it wrong until your born again movement saved the day"
EVERYONE in Christianity has NOT interpreted wrongly - except for the ones who go DIRECTLY AGAINST what CHRIST HIMSELF has said, starting with, "Call no man your Father."