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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#492462 Nov 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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LIAR! You stated just a few days ago that dear old John was one of your favorites.
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Your having made the indisputable antiSemitic stereotypical remark in Post#491824 you should

1, cease all your posts re Christians antiSemitism

2. you are in no position to call anyone a liar or hypocrite

June's post
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Post#491824

Einstein lived in Germany, and I suggest that being a man who lived by modest means, he was fully aware that other Jews were not at all the same as him in attitude. Einstein knew that when Hitler came to power, the Jews controlled the finances in Germany.

I don't hate Jews as did Hitler, but just as did Einstein, I recognize that there are Jews who are brilliant with finances, and given an inch, will take the whole nine yards, as they are now doing in Israel, and in other places in the world.

It's unfortunate that their brilliance works against them

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#492463 Nov 17, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>to help your sniveling hide out. truth is a catholic woman from Yugoslavia
Whose English can be strained .....And yes,she,speaks,like a,Cathic..
My understanding is,that where she,comes,from has,great persecution from soldiers,..as,she mentions,them often.

Some people can condemn others,so easily ..
I asked someone first if she,was for real ...And,any one paying attention would have seen the several explanations
About the poor lady...who has,most likely suffered more,than any of us,..God,bless,her

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#492464 Nov 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Then I suggest that you had better lighten up your heart and stop believing that OTHERS will spend eternity in hell ... because ... only a dark heart could put faith in such a wretched system of belief.
Ok,Col Kurtz

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#492465 Nov 17, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>And I bet he thinks the same about you.
Sigh ...as,Preston says,she is,a,Catholic lady ..with not much English,..

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#492466 Nov 17, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>=remark==========
Your having made the indisputable antiSemitic stereotypical remark in Post#491824 you should
1, cease all your posts re Christians antiSemitism
2. you are in no position to call anyone a liar or hypocrite
June's post
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Post#491824
Einstein lived in Germany, and I suggest that being a man who lived by modest means, he was fully aware that other Jews were not at all the same as him in attitude. Einstein knew that when Hitler came to power, the Jews controlled the finances in Germany.
I don't hate Jews as did Hitler, but just as did Einstein, I recognize that there are Jews who are brilliant with finances, and given an inch, will take the whole nine yards, as they are now doing in Israel, and in other places in the world.
It's unfortunate that their brilliance works against them
And,as,sated before ..Jews,were at the time migrated,into finances which were though t to be an chRistian pursuit ...from.Everything I've,read,....But it was,ok for them to commit " usury" And,for others,to spend the money ...

One COUKD,always,get the profits,back with a,pogrom

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#492467 Nov 17, 2013
Correction...though to be not a,good,pursuit for Catholics,...at the time ..
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#492468 Nov 17, 2013
I suggest it is common sense that ALL of the early Christians were anti-Semitic ... including the Gnostics.
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PRO-JUDAS. NOT PRO-JEWISH. Because the Gospel of Judas portrays Judas as a hero rather than a villain, some people have given the impression that it is somehow an antidote to historic Christian anti-Semitism. This response is ironic, since much of early Gnosticism was deeply critical of traditional Judaism. Gnostics believed that there were actually two Gods, and that the God of the Jews was an evil or ignorant creator who deceived people.

https://www.christianhistoryinstitute.org/mag...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#492469 Nov 17, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>=remark==========
Your having made the indisputable antiSemitic stereotypical remark in Post#491824 you should
1, cease all your posts re Christians antiSemitism
2. you are in no position to call anyone a liar or hypocrite
June's post
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Post#491824
Einstein lived in Germany, and I suggest that being a man who lived by modest means, he was fully aware that other Jews were not at all the same as him in attitude. Einstein knew that when Hitler came to power, the Jews controlled the finances in Germany.
I don't hate Jews as did Hitler, but just as did Einstein, I recognize that there are Jews who are brilliant with finances, and given an inch, will take the whole nine yards, as they are now doing in Israel, and in other places in the world.
It's unfortunate that their brilliance works against them
Just because you don't follow the concept that anti-Semitism is different than recognizing Jewish aggression to control finances ... that is not my problem.

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#492470 Nov 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
"Imagine"
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =XLgYAHHkPFsXX
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"Lennon delighted in mocking Epstein for his homosexuality and for the fact that he was Jewish.[146] When Epstein invited suggestions for the title of his autobiography, Lennon offered Queer Jew; on learning of the eventual title, A Cellarful of Noise, he parodied, "More like A Cellarful of Boys".[147] He demanded of a visitor to Epstein's flat, "Have you come to blackmail him? If not, you're the only bugger in London who hasn't."[146] During the recording of "Baby, You're a Rich Man", he sang altered choruses of "Baby, you're a rich fag Jew".

‘only queers and Jews can get on in show biz.’---John Lennon
Liam

Detroit, MI

#492471 Nov 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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No Regina,sorry..Clay has Saud several one that the APOSTLES DID Not write..because Jesus,did not tell hem to...going back weeks ..
Which is kind of a Catch 22 since Jesus words come from the written Gospels.
Clay has held up Ignatius over the writings of Paul and the apostles .
If your priest says this is the Gospel according to John..do we BRLIEVE your priests or not.
I think THRY wrote or dictated their own writings ...through the guidance and inspiration of he HOLY SPIRIT .
My only point here is in the gloating about non authenticity to put down JG and Preston ..etc Reliance on Scripture .
The upshot of which to me is,against your own teAching...And giving
Fodder to the the atheists ..
Now the Catholic Church either believes it's own CANON or not ..
I THINK IT DOES ..for the most part despite scholars,like that Raymond person who casts,doubt on the Nativity story ...And Clay eh o seems to think we are foolish in believing scripture ...I've the writings,of your early father's ..
I'm not the one who did NOT include them in he CANON ..
However you are all free to believe as you wish ..I'm pretty sure the atheists will still niece it's a,myth anyway ..But talk like that IMO ..could cause DOUBT to young believers ...
PEACE
Get real. I never said the Apostles didn't write. And I never held up Ignatius writings over Paul. If you aren't smart enough to carry on a conversation without drawing bizarre conclusions, please let me know now. Bible facts completely ruin your religion and you know it. I point out how you Bible idolaters simply ignore everything you hear and mumble 'Bible Bible, word of God word of God'
That's not disrespecting the sacred scriptures on my part, it shows how YOU guys do.

The writings of the Disciples of the Apostles destroy Protestantism from the get go. They prove you guys have changed what Jesus Christ Himself taught. They validate Jesus' own words on things like "this is my body". You guys unraveled what the Lord installed. You think your justified because you interpret the Bible differently than Ignatius or Clement, and thats ok with you?? Just keep mumbling Bible Bible Bible and ignore everything you hear. The Earth is 5,000 yrs old; the Bible appeared out of thin air; everyone in Christianity interpreted it wrong until your born again movement saved the day.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#492472 Nov 17, 2013
The Gnostics were as divided in their systems of belief as were and are other believers.
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The existence of both a transcendent God and a lower God (the Creator–Demiurge), whom Gnostics equated with Yahweh of the Old Testament...

Two gods, a father god and a mother goddess (wisdom/Sophia, shekinah). Some see the Holy Spirit as the mother goddess.

http://www.crossroad.to/charts/gnosticism.htm...

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#492473 Nov 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Whose English can be strained .....And yes,she,speaks,like a,Cathic..
My understanding is,that where she,comes,from has,great persecution from soldiers,..as,she mentions,them often.
Some people can condemn others,so easily ..
I asked someone first if she,was for real ...And,any one paying attention would have seen the several explanations
About the poor lady...who has,most likely suffered more,than any of us,..God,bless,her
some times, she does post on other forums(Yugoslavia for instance last week), and her posts are the same. some in English mixed with her native language, so it is a shame when people attack her. as a catholic, she was attacked by the muslims as well as her govt.

people can search the net for a sprinkling of what she had to endure and for that reason, she doesn't need to be hurt on this forum by [any] of us.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#492474 Nov 17, 2013
According to at least some of the Gnostics, Jesus was supposed to be a teacher of enlightenment.

How ironic it is, that his followers were nothing but warriors in defense of the Christian religion ... while Jesus from MOST accounts was a pure unadulterated JEW right up to the time of his crucifixion.
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The Teachings of Silvanus, another Gnostic document, portrays Jesus as teaching salvation by enlightenment:

"Bring in your guide and your teacher. The mind is the guide, but reason is the teacher. They will bring you out of destruction and dangers .... Enlighten your mind.... Light the lamp within you."

http://www.crossroad.to/charts/gnosticism.htm...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#492475 Nov 17, 2013
Because I don't believe in a creator that favors a Jews, one could claim that I am also anti-Jewish. But the fact that I don't believe in the existence of a Creator ... period ... removes the anti-Jewish element from my "intention" which is to belittle all religion as having no credibility whatsoever.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#492476 Nov 17, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>some times, she does post on other forums(Yugoslavia for instance last week), and her posts are the same. some in English mixed with her native language, so it is a shame when people attack her. as a catholic, she was attacked by the muslims as well as her govt.
people can search the net for a sprinkling of what she had to endure and for that reason, she doesn't need to be hurt on this forum by [any] of us.
Agree,..I made the,mistake,of not understanding ...But was,told,something about her .

Some,of her poss,are,lovely ...we,have no idea,of her problems,...thing is. She's been here,a while,...several explanations, from good,folks,like,yourself .....calling her crazy was,mean ..IMO.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#492477 Nov 17, 2013
All gospels in all religions were written by theologians, and that "included" all Gnostic gospels.

And the bottom LINE was that ignorance was their constant companion, as they all claimed they owned the one and only truth on the "market."
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Gnosticism

God' Word is false. Truth is based on mythical, secret knowledge (gnosis).

“The Bible is a product of man... not of God.... Man created it as a historical record of tumultuous times, and it has evolved through countless translations, additions, and revisions.... The Bible, as we know it today, was collected by the pagan Roman emperor Constantine the Great.”

http://www.crossroad.to/charts/gnosticism.htm...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#492478 Nov 17, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
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"Lennon delighted in mocking Epstein for his homosexuality and for the fact that he was Jewish.[146] When Epstein invited suggestions for the title of his autobiography, Lennon offered Queer Jew; on learning of the eventual title, A Cellarful of Noise, he parodied, "More like A Cellarful of Boys".[147] He demanded of a visitor to Epstein's flat, "Have you come to blackmail him? If not, you're the only bugger in London who hasn't."[146] During the recording of "Baby, You're a Rich Man", he sang altered choruses of "Baby, you're a rich fag Jew".
‘only queers and Jews can get on in show biz.’---John Lennon
As time went by, as do most of us, John Lennon changed his opinions on many issues.

However Catholics are STILL anti-Jewish, even though your pope is trying to mend fences that still exist by not being honest about the anti-Semitism of the church fathers and their centuries of murder and total mayhem concerning the Jews.

He's trying to smooth lies over with more lies.
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Pope Francis: Let anti-Semitism be banished from every heart

“I've said it other times and I would like to repeat it now: It’s a contradiction that a Christian is anti-Semitic: His roots are Jewish,” said the Pope.“A Christian cannot be anti-Semitic

http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-francis-let-a...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#492479 Nov 17, 2013
In their zeal to justify early Church doctrine, the Apologists inevitably vilified the Jews. In making Christianity the New Israel, they had to explain the sins of the Old Israel, the fallen Israel, the false Israel.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/a...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#492480 Nov 17, 2013
If the Christian ROOTS are Jewish ... then the limbs of the tree should also be Jewish.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#492481 Nov 17, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Get real. I never said the Apostles didn't write. And I never held up Ignatius writings over Paul. If you aren't smart enough to carry on a conversation without drawing bizarre conclusions, please let me know now. Bible facts completely ruin your religion and you know it. I point out how you Bible idolaters simply ignore everything you hear and mumble 'Bible Bible, word of God word of God'
That's not disrespecting the sacred scriptures on my part, it shows how YOU guys do.
The writings of the Disciples of the Apostles destroy Protestantism from the get go. They prove you guys have changed your justified because you interpret the Bible differently than Ignatius or Clement, and thats ok with you?? Just keep mumbling Bible Bible Bible and ignore everything you hear. The Earth is 5,000 yrs old; the Bible appeared out of thin air; everyone in Christianity interpreted it wrong until your born again movement saved the day.
CLAY.

SORRY AND not trying to fight .

On two occasions,you said exactly .

The,apostles,did not write,because,Jesus,did not ell them to..

The first time was when ..oh were,correcting yourself about them not being educated,....WHICH WAS,GOOD .

yesterday ..well hey I posed ..And you posted what you were,saying ..
And it was,in my opinion ion fodder for he,atheists,who chimed in..

You can write,as,you like .. to my reading it looked,like you were putting down scripture and kind of an in your face YOU brought up to Preston and,JG '

I repostd two of your,statements,Clay . Hey were contradictory to yourself ..

If you BELUEVE scripture to be,authentic ..by the,AUThors,Its,accredited to ...IMO..You shouldn't make comments,like,THEY DID NOT WRITE 'because,Jesus,did not tell them to.

How,do .you know,anything Jesus,told them...by His,words,in the scriptures,THEY,wrote,.

And WE,KNOW JOHN was,instructed ..we,know Paul was,instructed after Jesus,was,gone,.

We,also have,no idea,what writings,were,in Jerusalem and other parts,of Judea,..about JESUS,..from the disciples...from hose who hated Him..Priests,and,Roman..the CITY and parts,of the country. We're,turned to ashes

Atheists,live to say no one,who was there,wrote,about Jesus,...they did,and,I contend,many other,writings,were,lost ..

I'm not a baby Christian..But I'm no scholar ..just saying ...what you said ..or how,you put it could,hurt the belief of those new,to the,Faith . Or give fodder as,it did o the atheists ..

And yes it was upsetting.

Our faith is,in the,LORD Jesus...all of us..we,put FAith in His,words ..oh all go by tradition...such oh base,on words...from the,Fathers,..

I say the bile is the,INSPIRED Word,of God ...And does,not contain lies,

John's,words,are,John.s....not some guy as,you said,eh o didn't have John looking over his,shoulder..I know,that was meant as sarcasm .
If the scriptures say the Gospel of JOHN ..then I BELUEVE it was from him not Clement paraphrasing or whoever .

If PETER gave,His,accounts,to John Mark or whoever ...PETters,words,...

In HEBREWS ..we are careful to say the,writer of Hebrews ...tough the source may have Bern Paul or his,disciple ..

You all ate quick to.tell us your Church put the,books together ..
Though,I think what became the,Orhodox had a,hand in it ..the were either accurate,or not ...if hey were,INSPIRED they were accurate ..period ..
Reread your posts,from.yesterday Clay . Please,..they leave great doubt and its unsettling ...You were,almost gloating against the preachers,on account of this,doubt .

I know you felt let down after your experience by the,Protestan churches you tried .

I had a similar experience after taking classes and almost joining one ..I get it .

But the,Church I found after ..gave me such truth and live ..I know it was,God's,grace that led me there .
You found truth in the RCC''good ..
That does,not make the bible a false,doctrine ..

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