Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#489019 Nov 7, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Your argument is not with me but rather your argument is with the word of God.
Christ stated that he that believes ( FAITH ) and is baptized ( WORKS) shall be saved.
Now since Christ, the author of our salvation stated this Himself are you considering yourself to have higher authority than Christ in the determination of what is required?
Tony,

Baptism is NOT a work of man....

BUT,

It is the work of God.....

Ephesians 3:7

7 I became a servant of this gospel by the gift of God’s grace given me through the ~~~working of HIS POWER.~~~

Colossians 2:12

12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the ~~~WORKING of God,~~~ who raised him from the dead.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#489020 Nov 7, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
We Baptize infants. You read some of their writings 2,000 yrs later and do something different.
I know catholics baptize infants. I just can't find where Jesus told you to.

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#489021 Nov 7, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>that is what some on here are nor following. we get Baptized because we love the Lord, not because we are Commanded to.
we are now Saved individuals, not some puppet who gets in a line and follows some ritual laid down by some church.
in the small country churches around here, a person can not join a church unless they are Baptized, and many churches do give out a Baptismal Declaration just so people can keep them for a keepsake, but it isn't a ticket to heaven by any means.
Same thing here in some,small churches,..

One,non denominational CHUrch..very wonderful pastor from his,sermons,anyway ..

Every so often ..they baptize,at the beach ...similar to what the,apostles did .

Even Catholic pilgrims,in the Jordan .recaptured,..renewing baptism ..whatever ...

http://www.americancatholic.org/news/report.a...
truth

Perth, Australia

#489022 Nov 7, 2013
its not fictional
its real
they borrowing time money and life=wiket satanic
nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

i wrote for benificary of all

i have geometrically
describe many parallel universal system..
don't asked nothing now
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#489023 Nov 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Hahahahahaha
If a god allowed a devil to work in his kingdom, the god had a purpose FOR The devil. He WANTS the devil to have full employment.
Silly stuff in deed!
I am amazed, June, as to your ability to make a statement that seems
"somewhat??" reasonable, and then interject some of your "vindictively warped" and personal "opinionated" animosity to conclude the sentence!! Your "sillyness is not just silly!! It is shows what a sad and "empty life" you live---if it is even called living!! You are in my thoughts and prayers each day, at Daily Mass if it even means anything to you!!!
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#489024 Nov 7, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Well... Faith (BELIEVING) plus works,BEING BAPTIZED).
Tony,

For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

When real faith grows, good works grow as well.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#489025 Nov 7, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>I asked this because I know people that was raised in the church by Godly parents and when they became adults they left the church and became malignantly evil and ended up dying that way. Do you consider them to have departed from the way in which they were raised? Makes you go hmmmmm.
Tony,

If they continued in sin, there is no more sacrifice for them.

Hebrews 10:26

26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,
truth

Perth, Australia

#489026 Nov 7, 2013
thousand years stolen indetity as well acident occure or suden death..
what a about that..id
don't speak with me like that..
who is been on that INRI
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#489027 Nov 7, 2013
OldJG wrote:
How Can Water Baptism Wash Away Sins?
The Bible tells us that “according to the law almost all things are purged with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission”(Hebrews 9:22). Any covenant was dedicated with blood. No amount of sacrifice, however, could atone for mankind’s sins and fully restore our relationship with God. The only means of redemption was through the Lord’s own blood (Colossians 1:14; Revelation 1:5). Jesus Christ’s blood seals a new and everlasting covenant between God and His children (Hebrews 12:24).
If baptism were merely immersion in water, then it would be nothing but a religious rite, since water cannot take away guilt. But the mystery of baptism lies in the profound unity of water, blood, and the Holy Spirit.
After Jesus died on the cross,“one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out. And he who has seen has testified, and his testimony is true; and he knows that he is telling the truth, so that you may believe”(John 19:34-35).
John, a disciple of Jesus, witnessed how Jesus Christ poured out His blood along with water and opened the fountain of cleansing. He explained the meaning of what he saw:
This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth…there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and these three agree as one (1 John 5:6-8).
Baptism is where water and blood come together under the eternal Spirit of God. Jesus Christ arose from death by the Holy Spirit (1 Peter 3:18) to enter heaven as our mediator before God (Hebrews 9:15, 24). The Holy Spirit, which God gives to believers, testifies that Jesus is alive and that His blood cleanses us (Hebrews 9:14) today. So while a sinner is immersed in water physically, his spiritual being is being cleansed in the blood of Christ (Hebrews 10:22:“washed”= immersed).
No sin is too great to be forgiven. God is ready to pardon everyone who turns back to Him and seeks cleansing. But you must first accept Jesus Christ and His gospel of salvation, confess your sins before God, and determine to follow His words.
“Repent,” the apostle Peter tells us,“and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins”(Acts 2:38).
By the working of God in your baptism....

1 Corinthians 12:6

6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same ~~~God at work.~~~

Colossians 2:12

12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the <<<working of God,>>> who raised him from the dead.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#489028 Nov 7, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
They received the Holy Spirit in Acts 10. Not in Acts 15. Also, I do not see the name CORNELIUS mentioned in Acts 15. Can you point out the verse for me?
Without a doubt Cornelius received the Holy Spirit BEFORE baptism. Black print on white paper. No question.
You said, quote, "Peter consistently argued that the Gentiles were to receive the gospel without being bound to the Law." End quote.
Galatians 2:11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.
2:14 But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all,“If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?”
Ox,

There are different baptisms...
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#489029 Nov 7, 2013
correction....this was meant for OldJG

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#489030 Nov 7, 2013
What kind of Pope was Peter?

He didn't write to the Cardinals, Bishops and Priests.(He wrote to the people. I Peter 1:1, and 2 Peter 1:1)

He didn't magnify tradition. He said that "...you were NOT redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your VAIN conversation received BY TRADITION FROM YOUR FATHERS; but with the precious blood of Christ..." I Peter 1:18,19.

He told the people that "You, as lively STONES (rocks) are...an holy priesthood..." I Peter 2:5

He said..."YOU are a...royal priesthood..." I Peter 2:9

KayMarie
Husker Du

Falls City, NE

#489031 Nov 7, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Same thing here in some,small churches,..
One,non denominational CHUrch..very wonderful pastor from his,sermons,anyway ..
Every so often ..they baptize,at the beach ...similar to what the,apostles did .
Even Catholic pilgrims,in the Jordan .recaptured,..renewing baptism ..whatever ...
http://www.americancatholic.org/news/report.a...
Catholics do not get re baptized. We renew our baptism. We know you can only be baptized once.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#489032 Nov 7, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
What can wash away my sin??????????
Nothing but the BLOOD of Jesus.
Not water......BLOOD.
OLDJG,

Why did God choose water for baptism?

Water represents inner cleansing and spiritual rebirth.

Ephesians 5:26

26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,

Hebrews 10:22

22 let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water.

Think about it!
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#489033 Nov 7, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? I don't think so. Give this a read. These people received the gift of the Holy Spirit BEFORE baptism. BEFORE!!!
Acts 10:44-48, 44 "Even as Peter was saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell upon all who were listening to the message. 45 The Jewish believers who came with Peter were amazed that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles, too. 46 For they heard them speaking in other tongues and praising God. Then Peter asked, 47 “Can anyone object to their being baptized, now that they have received the Holy Spirit just as we did?” 48 So he gave orders for them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Afterward Cornelius asked him to stay with them for several days."
OLDJG,

Different baptism...
truth

Perth, Australia

#489034 Nov 7, 2013
a nkh=in her is life
4000 years go back

mr/mrs lampadanovi
lapandati=many language

tower

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#489035 Nov 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You are such a fibber.
The Catholics wrote the new testament. Protestants had NO part in it whatsoever, and we all KNOW the story that unless people are baptized into the Catholic faith, they can't go to Christian heaven. Of the Abrahamic religion ... THAT excludes Protestants AND Jews AND Muslims.
I suggest you get your stories straight!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>
Athanasian Creed
1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith
~~~

Call me whatever you please...It changes nothing...In the final analysis

whom God says I am is what will really matter...

I will not be judged by the catechism of the ROMAN CATHOLIC religious society...

what they have attempted to assume into God word wont amount to a hill of beans..

The only consequence is their suffering for their own willful
disregard and attempt to replace God's word with their own conjecture..

It will not effect my position before God ...I HAVE WARNED THEM...

Eze 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Eze 33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

AND THIS GOES LIKEWISE FOR YOU, AND YOUR PERSONAL HATRED AND VENDETTA AGAINST GOD.
truth

Perth, Australia

#489036 Nov 7, 2013
Please tell me confe!
Did you follow me because of that..
yes it is you can find many things
aske me
my mind
just follow
as you say fiction..follow my fiction..follow me

under loving power..we have system which disappiere who is know when..now
a nkh
my system in my mind what i aredy drove geometricly simetricly exist front of me..many many siscrets..
others posess many things ..others will try eliminated many many things..
its id..its indification in id fiction=is real..
realllllll
did you hear me
realllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllll

don't force m,ake stupid things
reallll

its not israel

its who is reallllll

others secret pretenders are not safe
who they are
nobodyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

don't force me wrote more

evil serve evillllllllllll
they try eliminated me allready
evil serve evil
who they are
nobody and nothing at all
why
with them they liked ofwfull things do

who they are
nobody
nothimnggggggg
they are nothingg
they are nobody
ones press finisghhhhhhhh

they are nothing
nobodyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyy
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#489037 Nov 7, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently your Bible reads differently than mine.
My Bible says, John 3:16-18, 16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God."
Your Bible MUST read, "John 3:16-18, 16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him AND IS BAPTIZED should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe AND IS NOT BAPTIZED is condemned already, because he has not believed AND WAS NOT BAPTIZED in the name of the only Son of God."
Is this your contention? Does your Bible read differently than mine.
My Bible reads, Ephesians 2:8-9, 8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
Your Bible MUST read, Ephesians 2:8-9, 8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith AND BAPTISM. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
Baptism is an outward sign of an inward faith.
OLDJG,

Baptism is very important.....it is more important than just an outward sign of an inward faith....

It is a burial....a funeral....

"If you love me, keep my commandments."

Baptism is an act of obedience towards God/Jesus' COMMANDS.

Baptism is a covenant relationship with God/Jesus.

Baptism is a living relationship with Jesus Christ.

Baptism is a IMMEDIATE RESPONSE to the Gospel of Jesus Christ!

People didn't wait for another meal, or sleep on the idea, or wait for another day to go by.

What hinders me from being baptized?

Baptism is the appeal of a good conscience.....the act of obeying God.
truth

Perth, Australia

#489038 Nov 7, 2013
evilllllllllllllllllllllllllll l

they are evilllllllllllllllllllllll
they are nothing=0
finish

others try stolen in.di.fixcation..f.id n i
for 4000 years they doing that much more

evil serve evil
evil serve evillllllllllllllllll

killers and borovers wicket evil people

i don't liked them
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo

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evil killers

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