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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 685606 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#488979 Nov 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
Did Jesus baptize?
A general observation of the ministry of Jesus Christ reveals that He never told anyone to be baptized in any of the gospel accounts{SEE THIS, hANK? THIS PERSON AGREES WITH ME AND THE BIBLE WHILE YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOUR CHURCH TEACHES]. His discussion with numerous people about how to have a relationship with God have been recorded in the gospels,5 but in none of those accounts does Jesus tell anyone that they must be baptized. If baptism were crucial to one's salvation, I would think that He would have mentioned it at least once! Was Jesus negligent in not explaining this to all the people He talked to in the gospels? I don't think so! In addition, Jesus never baptized anyone to our knowledge, although He had His disciples perform the ceremony.6 In fact, He routinely sent the people off after being healed without baptism. Obviously, He gave the command to His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.7 Baptism is an outward expression of what has already occurred within an individual. Jesus didn't need to see that outward expression of an individual's conversion, since, being God, He already knew what was in their heart.
Salvation by faith
In contrast, Jesus talked very often about faith - at least 27 examples given in the gospels: Matthew 8:10, Matthew 8:26, Matthew 9:2, Matthew 9:22, Matthew 9:29, Matthew 14:31, Matthew 15:28, Matthew 16:8, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 2:5, Mark 4:40, Mark 5:34, Mark 10:52, Mark 11:22, Luke 5:20, Luke 7:9, Luke 7:50, Luke 8:25, Luke 8:48, Luke 12:28, Luke 17:5, Luke 17:6, Luke 17:19, Luke 18:8, Luke 18:42, Luke 22:32.8 Could it be that faith is the key to having a relationship with God and not baptism?
The idea that baptism is required for justification perpetuates the Jewish notion of salvation through works of the law, which were repudiated by the apostles (Acts 10:43-11:18,9 15:1-11,10 Romans 3:30,11 Galatians 2,12 and Philippians 313) and the early church fathers. Yes, I believe one should be baptized in obedience to Jesus' command. However, we should also love our neighbor for the same reason.14 I know that we do not keep this entire command, because only God can demonstrate this kind of unconditional love. Does this mean that we will lose our salvation? No!
We are justified on the basis of faith alone (true faith - not an uncommitted confession of some belief). If anyone is trusting in any work of the flesh, then they put themselves under the entire law of God and will be held accountable to keep it all!(James 2:10,15 Galatians 3:10,16 5:2-4,17 Romans 2:12,18 3:2019)
Conclusion Top of page
A careful examination of John 3:5-7 reveals that when Jesus' referred to being "born of water" He was talking about the physical birth ("born of the flesh"), in contrast to being "born of the Spirit" or "born again." Jesus Himself never baptized anyone to our knowledge, although the disciples did baptize under His command. In all of His interactions with people, Jesus was never recorded as commanding anyone to be baptized, although He often commended people for their faith. It would seem that if baptism were required for salvation that Jesus would have made some mention of it. We conclude that faith, rather than baptism, is required for salvation, although the dutiful Christian will be baptized in obedience to Jesus command in Matthew 28:19.
Did Christ teach us to get baptized?

Answer.......MARK 16:15-16.

Enough said.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#488980 Nov 6, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I suggest you are correct, as for the most part religion teaches followers to look down on others. "If you don't belong to our religion there is something sadly "lacking" in you. You fall short of the mark. You are evil. You are a heretic, a heathen, an infidel ... blah, blah, blah."
I know. I have experienced it all at some time or another.
It is not the true nature of people. It is what they have been taught in bigotry and intolerance that causes that.
I have to look beyond that as best I can, because I have found folks in all walks of life that aren't at all bad. We are products of our environment, to whatever degree it has affected us, and how we perceive and interact with it. We need to change that "environment" for the better, so we all can have a more productive and peaceful existence.

Since: Feb 12

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#488981 Nov 6, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
I see what you are trying to say here.
I have other(different) beliefs about everything and the world.
I try to see folks as they are, and appreciate them(or not) for that, in accordance with what I see from their words and actions.
Given a little time one can usually weigh their heart(to a reasonable degree)...but only if one is just, fair, and it is done with(in) love.
makes sense to me!!

Since: Feb 12

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#488982 Nov 6, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
I know. I have experienced it all at some time or another.
It is not the true nature of people. It is what they have been taught in bigotry and intolerance that causes that.
I have to look beyond that as best I can, because I have found folks in all walks of life that aren't at all bad. We are products of our environment, to whatever degree it has affected us, and how we perceive and interact with it. We need to change that "environment" for the better, so we all can have a more productive and peaceful existence.
Amen brother!

Since: Feb 12

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#488983 Nov 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>A very moving message, Thanx
You still up!! LOL

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488984 Nov 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>A very moving message, Thanx
Got me crying

Since: Feb 12

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#488985 Nov 6, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Got me crying
crying is good..it cleans the soul

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488986 Nov 6, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
I see what you are trying to say here.
I have other(different) beliefs about everything and the world.
I try to see folks as they are, and appreciate them(or not) for that, in accordance with what I see from their words and actions.
Given a little time one can usually weigh their heart(to a reasonable degree)...but only if one is just, fair, and it is done with(in) love.
THats,actually how,US,Christians should be ..looking with love at others,.

Sometimes,we fall short ..But that's,US,..not Jesus,.

If you can stretch a bit and imagine, a being loving us,enough to die for us .

God's,justice is,perfect ..ten price had to be paid ..
The ultimate price for horrid sin ...then and now and no one could pay it but a sinless,human ..(also divine)

Now,we as,humans cannot understand this,..perfect justice does,not exist on this planet .

But Jesus,came ..gave us,a way o follow ..then suffered horribly for us .
Just saying ..human s,are imperfect ..GOD IS,NOT
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#488987 Nov 6, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Did Christ teach us to get baptized?
Answer.......MARK 16:15-16.
Enough said.
Faith + works?
Nuf said!
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#488988 Nov 6, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Did Christ teach us to get baptized?
Answer.......MARK 16:15-16.
Enough said.
By the way a gave you a clueless as you always are.
truth

Perth, Australia

#488989 Nov 6, 2013
who stone you
you give bread..

2 fish 5 bread
love me

i been there with my my hand lags body mind on that Cross INRI..

station of Cross
Galatians 3;13
Why Abraham need blessing?

Do you realize possessors and deceivers curse themself for money and possession property law
privileged and so on..
Do you realize where dividing start..read sea..
Did you see snail symbol as sloth?
did you see as vir=as vobeling house of snail..

did you see hand of your ministers
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaa

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo

be good
i speak with illustration symbols geometry letters downside words directions and so on..
truth

Perth, Australia

#488990 Nov 6, 2013
see i'n'ri

where is that what you say who?

now
is hue there
no no no

bread who stone you

i know who give me
for all my years here
truth

Perth, Australia

#488991 Nov 6, 2013
is Abraham holy when he need blessing
but still excise cursing

is your saints set
or zet or zic or tizick

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo

remember my words

all continents will be start moving
parallel universal system too..
all lot
truth

Perth, Australia

#488992 Nov 6, 2013
jesus speak with parabole
yeee
na velikim dvorovima svi su se ismijavali sa
ocerupanim pticurinama
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-247...

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#488993 Nov 6, 2013
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>
By the way a gave you a clueless as you always are.
Your argument is not with me but rather your argument is with the word of God.

Christ stated that he that believes ( FAITH ) and is baptized ( WORKS) shall be saved.

Now since Christ, the author of our salvation stated this Himself are you considering yourself to have higher authority than Christ in the determination of what is required?

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#488994 Nov 6, 2013
Disciple wrote:
<quoted text>
Faith + works?
Nuf said!
Well... Faith (BELIEVING) plus works,BEING BAPTIZED).

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488995 Nov 7, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>crying is good..it cleans the soul
True ..sorry no answer earlier but internet went out .

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488996 Nov 7, 2013
Well looks like I'm alone ..Lol.
Try to get back to sleep
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#488997 Nov 7, 2013


'You can't have Christ without the Church,' Pope reminds Wednesday Audience

It is erroneous to think that humanity can have Jesus Christ without the Catholic Church, and God’s plan for humanity includes and is intimately connected with the Church, Pope Francis taught today as part of a new series of reflections that he is beginning during his weekly Wednesday General Audiences. Pope Francis ended the series of reflections on the Creed begun by his predecessor Benedict XVI last week, and this week began his own Wednesday series of undetermined length centered around the Church, its nature, and its importance in the plan of salvation. The Holy Father reminded the nearly 90,000 pilgrims gathered in a rainy St. Peter’s Square that “it is the Church that brings us Christ.”

“Even today, some say,‘Christ yes, the Church no,’ like those who say,‘I believe in God, but in priests, no.’ They say,‘Christ: yes. Church: no.’ Nevertheless, it is the Church that brings us Christ and that brings us to God. The Church is the great family of God’s children,” the Holy Father taught.“Of course,” the Pope said,“the Church also has the human aspects: in those who compose it, pastors and faithful, there are flaws, imperfections, sins – the Pope has his, as well: he has lots of them; but the beautiful thing is that, when we become aware that we are sinners, we find the mercy of God. God always forgives: do not forget this.”





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Perth, Australia

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