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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Richie T

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#488408 Nov 5, 2013
hojo wrote:
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No Confrinting!! It is called proclaiming, teaching and adhering to the TRUTH of the TRUE WORD OF GOD that is manifested only in Jesus Christ, in and through His One True Apostolic Catholic Church ---versus-----listening to YOU or one of your other 42,000 bible only "self-appointed, self-proclaimed "editorialised" half-truth, half-heresy preachers,---in which (each one of you) are "ALL OVER THE PLACE" when it comes to the TRUTH of the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible!..... All ANYONE has to do is to read the perverted arguments, the twisted debates and opinionated "hostile" discussions, that you bible only "fundies" have with each other, in which (each others) opinions are the "final authority". There is ONLY ONE TRUTH, and ONE ONE TRUE WORD OF GODS, not 42,000 relative truthes!!! God IS not, nor has EVER BEEN the author of your bible only contradiction, confusion and chaos and it has "been that way" for over 450 years, since the Reformation!!!
Confrinting is correct. It is either what the Bible says, or it is what the Catholic Church does. Each is directly opposed to the other.

Richie T

Since: Aug 12

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#488409 Nov 5, 2013
Henry VIII's Catholic physician, Dr, Thomas Linacare, upon reading a portion of Matthew, angrily tossed it to the ground exclaiming: "Either the Gospel is not true, or we (Catholics) are not Christians!"
Patriot

Longmont, CO

#488410 Nov 5, 2013
"He will be the Sure Foundation for your times, a Rich Store of Salvation and Wisdom and Knowledge; the fear of the LORD is - the key - to this Treasure." http://biblehub.com/isaiah/33-6.htm

http://biblehub.com/niv/proverbs/1.htm note vs 7

"Knowledge" to share -

Even in His dealings with the "wicked", GOD is Love - "Study to shew thyself approved unto GOD..." http://biblehub.com/2_timothy/2-15.htm -

http://www.preparingforeternity.com/hellfire....

http://www.truth-about-hell.com/page4.htm

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488411 Nov 5, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=pvS2OtG2SHc
Link still didn't work.

Richie T

Since: Aug 12

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#488412 Nov 5, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> What happen to baptism, you can't be saved without being baptized. Mark 16;16
Sure you can. Was the criminal next to Jesus saved after he died, went to Heaven with Jesus, baptized after his death by the Lord?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488413 Nov 5, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>Other posters have tried to explain things to you in the past, you fail to comprehend. You are here only to aggravate. What I posted came from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. And I hate to tell you this , but the Cardinals and the Pope who , by the way was the Blessed Pope John Paul II, wrote the Catechism, know more about indulgences than you. The Holy Spirit guided them, you know.
Unfounded conclusions.

a. Prove the HS guided anyone?
b. "but the Cardinals and the Pope who , by the way was the Blessed Pope John Paul II, wrote the Catechism"

DOH!!

Richie T

Since: Aug 12

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#488414 Nov 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
Jesus Signed My Pardon
I was in sin's prison, oh, so dark and cold
Like a lost sheep wandering from God's eternal fold;
Then the door swung open, and He spoke to me
"I have signed your pardon, now you may go free."
Chorus:
Jesus signed my pardon, this I surely know
Took my place at Calvary, now I won't have to go;
All my life I'll give to Him - He gave His for me
When He signed my pardon there at Calvary.
Since the Savior led me from that awful place
I can hear the angels as they sing Amazing Grace;
I know I was pardoned from my sin and shame
When I joined them singing, "Glory to His name."
Chorus:
Jesus signed my pardon, this I surely know
Took my place at Calvary, now I won't have to go;
All my life I'll give to Him - He gave His for me
When He signed my pardon there at Calvary.
Life is now worth living since I've been set free
I'm so glad He was willing to save a wretch like me;
Now I have a mansion, not a prison wall
Jesus signed my pardon, Jesus paid it all.
Chorus:
Jesus signed my pardon, this I surely know
Took my place at Calvary, now I won't have to go;
All my life I'll give to Him - He gave His for me
When He signed my pardon there at Calvary.
~~~
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Outstanding post! If only the RCC would follow the "Romans Road" to salvation, instead of the road to Babylon. How is it they discount the book written to the Roman Christians?

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#488415 Nov 5, 2013
Human Being wrote:
Peace
Book of Wisdom 2:
12 Let us beset the just one, because he is obnoxious to us; he sets himself against our doings, Reproaches us for transgressions of the law and charges us with violations of our training. 13 He professes to have knowledge of God and styles himself a child of the LORD. 14 To us he is the censure of our thoughts; merely to see him is a hardship for us, 15 Because his life is not like other men's, and different are his ways. 16 He judges us debased; he holds aloof from our paths as from things impure. He calls blest the destiny of the just and boasts that God is his Father. 17 Let us see whether his words be true; let us find out what will happen to him. 18 For if the just one be the son of God, he will defend him and deliver him from the hand of his foes. 19 With revilement and torture let us put him to the test that we may have proof of his gentleness and try his patience. 20 Let us condemn him to a shameful death; for according to his own words, God will take care of him."
Peace
Not in the Sacred Word of God...get a refund...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488416 Nov 5, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing but the,blood of OUR,LORD,JESUS,CHRIST ..can wash SIN .
His blood?

I understand, skip his teachings and just rely on "his blood".

I now completely understand why you and others are so-called "Christians" - you really are confused on what to believe and what not to believe.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488417 Nov 5, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>The devil quotes the bible you know. Your hatred is un excusable. Remember to love Christ, you have to love your enemy, you are to see the face of Christ in EVERYONE, not just protestants.
And you see the face of Christ in everyone ..even those you disagree with???

You treat them.as,you would treat
Christ??

And you treat people who have sinned the same way
CHRIST did???

Please,think really hard before you answer,...thanks,

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488418 Nov 5, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> When Jesus comes he will meet us in the sky, and all those that are in the book of life will be taken to heaven and the others including the devil will go to a place of eternal torment, and there is no new earth. The rapture and the millennial reign of Christ cannot be true if it is not 100 percent Biblically supported and it is not. We are to protect our world against all enemies, foreign or domestic. Just like we are to obey the police and all laws of the land as this would be a sin if we didn't obey.•Revelation 21:1 “Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.” New is not the same as the old.(physical)
•Revelation 21:2 “Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.” The holy city, new Jerusalem, cannot be a physical one, because it’s coming from heaven. The new heaven and new earth must be a figurative expression for God’s dwelling place, heaven. Matthew 5:34 “But I say to you, do not swear at all neither by heaven, for it God’s throne, nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.” Revelation 21:24,27 “And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.”“But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.” This describes where the righteous will dwell, including the faithful in the church.
Camping 101

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488419 Nov 5, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> What happen to baptism, you can't be saved without being baptized. Mark 16;16
What happened to believing in all of what Jesus taught?

And yes - one can be saved if they are not baptised.

You just can't fathom this, because you were taught that it was rqd.

How 'bout working on those other questions I posted for you? Still working them out?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#488420 Nov 5, 2013
Richie T wrote:
<quoted text>Confrinting is correct. It is either what the Bible says, or it is what the Catholic Church does. Each is directly opposed to the other.
...adn both are in direct conflict with Jesus - the supposed "leader" of your belief:

"To know yourself is to know the kingdom of God."

Why don't you believe Jesus?

Since: Jun 10

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#488421 Nov 5, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> What happen to baptism, you can't be saved without being baptized. Mark 16;16
That is not what it teaches. The first two parallel verses say:

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

And these are also parallel verses:
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#488422 Nov 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
You wrote about.... what you say is...
the true church of the bible, The Church of Christ.
I am not here to defend any denomination...
Human error can be found in all denomination...
and they have different applications of scriptures..
no matter what it's name is...NONE IS PERFECT...
My purpose here is to defend the word of God..

~~~
HIS REPRESENTATIVE ON EARTH IS THE HOLY GHOST...
The third person of the GODHEAD
Is this,person same Church?

I don't understand the,reasoning here ..what of the Millennial Kingdom..??

It's confusing ..
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> When Jesus comes he will meet us in the sky, and all those that are in the book of life will be taken to heaven and the others including the devil will go to a place of eternal torment, and there is no new earth. The rapture and the millennial reign of Christ cannot be true if it is not 100 percent Biblically supported and it is not. We are to protect our world against all enemies, foreign or domestic. Just like we are to obey the police and all laws of the land as this would be a sin if we didn't obey.•Revelation 21:1 “Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.” New is not the same as the old.(physical)
•Revelation 21:2 “Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.” The holy city, new Jerusalem, cannot be a physical one, because it’s coming from heaven. The new heaven and new earth must be a figurative expression for God’s dwelling place, heaven. Matthew 5:34 “But I say to you, do not swear at all neither by heaven, for it God’s throne, nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.” Revelation 21:24,27 “And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.”“But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.” This describes where the righteous will dwell, including the faithful in the church.

Since: Jul 10

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#488423 Nov 5, 2013
Richie T wrote:
<quoted text>Sure you can. Was the criminal next to Jesus saved after he died, went to Heaven with Jesus, baptized after his death by the Lord?
Jesus told him that he would be with him in paradise. First of all Jesus was still alive, so we were not in the New Testament time, so baptism wasn't needed. Also the area where they were being crucified was an area that baptism was going on all through that land, so how do you know that he wasn't already baptized, as he knew who Jesus was and what Jesus was doing in the area. Jesus went around saving people throughout his ministry so it wouldn't be no surprise him doing what he did to the thief on the cross. So are you saying Jesus couldn't save him by just saying the word? The New Testament commands baptism. On the first Pentecost after Christ was raised from the (Acts 2), Peter preached the first recorded gospel sermon. After hearing that the Christ that they had crucified had been raised to a position of supreme authority by God, they then asked, "what must we do?" (Acts 2:37). Peter said, "repent and be baptized … for the remission of sins" (v. 38). Remission of sins was predicated upon whether or not those who heard that sermon were baptized. No baptism - no remission of sins.
In Acts 22 we find the apostle Paul recounting the circumstances of his conversion. Among other things in this interesting account, Ananias said to him, "arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins..." (v. 16). How were the sins of Saul washed away? The one sent by God said this was to be done in baptism. Never was Saul merely told to "just believe."
Who Needs Baptism?
Not everyone needs to be baptized. Babies do not need to be baptized; neither do those who are mentally handicap. Those who have already been scripturally baptized do not need to do it again. Rather, only those who are accountable and have not been scripturally baptized need to do it—which means a whole lot of people need to.
The Bible is plain about faith, repentance, and confession (Jn. 3:16; Lk. 13:3; 12:8, 9). Our friends and neighbors rarely deny the need for any of these. In fact, some may even insist their essentiality to salvation. They may even tell people that without faith, repentance, and confession, they will go to hell. However, they not only deny the necessity of baptism, but adamantly argue against it as the Bible teaches it.
The Word of God states that baptism is essential to salvation, to have one’s sins remitted. The passages and arguments supporting this are as plain as the ones advocating the requirement of faith.
“He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned”(Mark 16:16).

Since: Jul 10

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#488424 Nov 5, 2013
Final part

“Then Peter said to them,‘Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit’”(Acts 2:38).
“And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord”(Acts 22:16).
“Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life”(Rom. 6:3, 4).
“For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ”(Gal. 3:26, 27).
“In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead”(Col. 2:11, 12).
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#488425 Nov 5, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> When Jesus comes he will meet us in the sky, and all those that are in the book of life will be taken to heaven and the others including the devil will go to a place of eternal torment, and there is no new earth. The rapture and the millennial reign of Christ cannot be true if it is not 100 percent Biblically supported and it is not. We are to protect our world against all enemies, foreign or domestic. Just like we are to obey the police and all laws of the land as this would be a sin if we didn't obey.•Revelation 21:1 “Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.” New is not the same as the old.(physical)
•Revelation 21:2 “Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.” The holy city, new Jerusalem, cannot be a physical one, because it’s coming from heaven. The new heaven and new earth must be a figurative expression for God’s dwelling place, heaven. Matthew 5:34 “But I say to you, do not swear at all neither by heaven, for it God’s throne, nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.” Revelation 21:24,27 “And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.”“But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.” This describes where the righteous will dwell, including the faithful in the church.
The Catholic Church is the Church of Christ. Catholic means Universal in Greek. Universal, One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. The 20th century 'church of christ' is a start up cult that looked at all the 45,000 denominations and figured nobody called them selves the C.O.C, so they figured what the heck....

Here is what the Book of Revelation is: it describes the Catholic Mass and the supper of the Lamb. Jesus showed John what takes place at the Mass. Heaven joins Earth as Christ becomes present in the Holy Eucharist. This was the understanding of the Church from the earliest times. Thats why they included the Book in the Bible when they compiled it in the 4th century.
I encourage you to see past the stereotypes and misconceptions about the CC.
From 5 minutes to 15
watch:
www.youtube.com/watch...

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#488426 Nov 5, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this,person same Church?
I don't understand the,reasoning here ..what of the Millennial Kingdom..??
It's confusing ..
<quoted text>
We do not believe in the millennium. There is no earthly reign going to happen.

Since: Jul 10

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#488427 Nov 5, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not what it teaches. The first two parallel verses say:
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
And these are also parallel verses:
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
You are so wrong, baptism is essential to one's salvation. Why do you think the very last thing Jesus told his Apostles, New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Baptism is shown throughout the New Testament for a reason, because it's a command to be baptized. Baptism is a Commandment of god a procedure that puts one into christ where salvation is found.
Baptism is accomplished by being immerse in water, not sprinkled. It is a burial in water, an emersion, down into the water, then raised out of the water.
Next is a list of four references on baptism. Headings are provided.
Baptism Is:
&#9726;Baptism a Command
&#9726;Baptism Essential
&#9726;Baptism Puts One into Christ
&#9726;Baptism a Burial
Baptism a Command
When reading a verse with a direct command from god we know that it must be carried out to achieve what he wants done.
List of Verses
&#9726;Matthew 28:19 (NASB)
&#9726;Mark 16:16 (NASB)
&#9726;Acts 10:48 (NASB)
Matthew 28:19 (NASB) Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
Mark 16:16 (NASB) He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Acts 10:48 (NASB) And he ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay on for a few days.
Baptism Essential
When you are baptised all past sins are forgiven.
Baptism is the only way you can get into christ the (church) for salvation. 1 Peter 3:21 (NASB)
And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you– not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience– through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
List of Verses
&#9726;Mark 16:15-16 (NASB)
&#9726;Acts 2:38 (NASB) 1
&#9726;Peter 3:21 (NASB)
Mark 16:15-16 (NASB) 15 And He said to them,“Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 “He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

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