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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 675535 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#487974 Nov 4, 2013
Liam wrote:
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Do you think its possible that God could have saved Mary at her conception?
If you were Jesus, would you create your own Mother without the stain of sin?
would He? No, if He had, that would have made Him a Liar and a hypocrite since the Word says, "without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin" the malefactor was Saved after His death, not BEFORE.

AS TRUTH HAS SAID, there is no [stain of sin] on Mary, when she was born AS A LITTLE BABY,out of religious parents. a person that would believe this foolishness of the catholic church(hate to say it) deserves the punishment coming to them

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487975 Nov 4, 2013
doug wrote:
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The Catholic Church was started in 321 By Constantine Roman Emperor
That is SO silly!

If the Catholic church was not already organized as a powerful force before the fourth century, how could Constantine give the Catholic church the power over all other religions in the empire?

:)

Since: Jan 08

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#487976 Nov 4, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
The one time and only one time that the Theotokos sinned was when the Theotokos called Jesus away from the Brethren. This was the sin of Impatience.
here we disagree, the First sin was when she walked away from Jesus, making her a backslider(this should make the OSAS'ers on here angry.lol

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#487977 Nov 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
THE establishing of God's Church (THE CALLED OUT ONES)took place in Genesis ,CHAPTER 12
CALLED OUT
. To give notice to come by authority; to command to come; as, call a servant.
GOD CALLED ABRAM (ABRAHAM) OUT
Gen_12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram,-->Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: <--
THE GENTILE CHURCH... IS AN EXTENSION OF THE CALL OF ABRAHAM
OUR SPIRITUAL ROOTS ARE DEEPLY SET IN
JUDE O - Christian SOIL..
1.THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN US THE WORD OF GOD..
2.THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE GIVE US THE PATRIARCHS..ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB
3.THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN US THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS;
EZEKIEL, ISAIAH JEREMIAH DANIEL HOSEA, JOEL, OBADIAH, JONAH,MICAH,
NAHUM,HABAKKUK, ZEPHANIAH,HAGGAI,ZACHARIAH AND MALACHI.
4.THE JEWISH PEOPLE GAVE US THE FIRST FAMILY OF CHRISTIANITY
5.THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN US THE TWELVE DISCIPLES AND THE APOSTLE PAUL
---
JESUS SAID IN
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE JEWISH CONTRIBUTION TO
CHRISTIANITY ...THERE WOULD BE NO CHRISTIANITY...
Judaism does not need Christianity to explain it's existence..
Christianity however cannot explain it's existence with out JUDAISM...
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC church is a parasite
(LIKE POISON IVY)
THAT HAS ATTACHED ITSELF TO THE OLIVE TREE...
IT IS NOT GRAFTED IN...
IT IS NOT A PART OF THE TRUE VINE..
IF IT WERE IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME IDENTITY AS THE TREE.
IT HAS NO SIMILARITY TO THE ORIGINAL TREE...
JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS...
IT IGNORES GOD'S WORD,..
WAR'S AGAINST IT....STRIVING TO ESTABLISH IT'S SELF AS
THE TRUE VINE...WHEN IN TRUTH IT IS A PARASITE.
THE FRUIT IS BEARS IS NOT THE SAME AS THE VINE...
AND LIKE THE POISON IVY ..EVERY ONE THAT TOUCHES IT IS
AFFECTED....
THE TRUE GENTILE CHURCH IS GRAFTED IN.
Rom_11:17 And if some of the branches ( THE JEWS) be broken off, and thou,(THE GENTILES) being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
THERE IS A GREAT DIFFERENCE IN BEING GRAFTED IN
AND BEING A PARASITE...
AND THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF
THE PARASITE...
~~~

ACCORDING TO THE TEACHINGS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ..

AS A SAP SUCKING PARASITE...

WE GENTILES ARE EXPECTED TO ATTACH OUR SELVES TO THEM..AND BE A PART OF THEIR PARASITICAL RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION

AND THE SPIRITUAL LIFE SUBSTANCE OF ALL OTHER GENTILES EXISTENCE IS SUPPOSED TO COME THROUGH THEIR SIN CURSED RELIGIOUS CALISTHENICS. AND RITUALS

THIS IS ANTICHRIST

JESUS SAID

Joh_15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

Joh_15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487978 Nov 4, 2013
Gods R Delusions but Mine wrote:
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OK, you are not man enough to admit you were wrong.
We get it. Jesus' teachings are not for you. Jesus' teachings are for those who are not a perfect as you.
Nuf said little man. You've made my point for me.
They like to feign humility in the idea that they also are sinners ... just before they sermonize about how others can learn to be aligned to perfection.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487979 Nov 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Doug,
We do not have the date of Jesus' birth....
More than likely he was born in the spring or summer....
It is more IMPORTANT to celebrate His death, burial and resurrection.....this is why we have the Lord's Supper....
More than likely there was no physical birth at all, but rather the story was born in the mentalities of ex-Jew Catholic authors.

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#487980 Nov 4, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>would He? No, if He had, that would have made Him a Liar and a hypocrite since the Word says, "without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin" the malefactor was Saved after His death, not BEFORE.
AS TRUTH HAS SAID, there is no [stain of sin] on Mary, when she was born AS A LITTLE BABY,out of religious parents. a person that would believe this foolishness of the catholic church(hate to say it) deserves the punishment coming to them
At the Cross, He made a Promise to the Malefactor and to ALL of us, at the Empty Tomb, He kept that promise.

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#487981 Nov 4, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Their church is their god.
Oxbow has posted several times about the Churches in the Book of Rev. and their angels.

satan is the angel of the rcc, and both will be destroyed by Jesus as He told John.

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487982 Nov 4, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>We are all born with sin except The Blessed Mother.
Did you forget that within the theology the supposed blessed mother was born a Jew. Are you going to be so inconsiderate of the Jews as to believe that a Jew faithful to her one and only Jewish father-GOD, would turn away from his "blessings" to become a traitor to HIS HOLINESS and in turn become a Catholic representative of "sainthood?"

That's a very disrespectful form of thinking ... in deed!

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487983 Nov 4, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Black Thunder 42
I agree with you concerning June. She is a very intolerant person.
How funny!

Black Thunder is also very intolerant of the Abrahamic religions ... including your Catholicism.

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487984 Nov 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Clay,

Study this scripture:

Leviticus 12:8

8 But if she cannot afford a lamb, she is to bring two doves or two young pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering. In this way <<<<<the priest will make atonement for her, and she will be clean.>>>>>
Chances are Clay will take a different meaning from the words than do you.

WHAT THEN???

Which one will you believe gleaned the correct meanings from the words.

OH WAIT ... I suggest that would be YOU!!! RIGHT???

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487985 Nov 4, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a lie taught by Catholics. We are not born with sin on our soul. There is no Scripture to support it.

However, we are all sinners and come short of the glory of God..
The masters of interpretation are at work! Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

:)

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487986 Nov 4, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Oxbow has posted several times about the Churches in the Book of Rev. and their angels.
satan is the angel of the rcc, and both will be destroyed by Jesus as He told John.
I suggest that Satan and Shaytan (the evil twins) lured Catholics, Muslims and Protestants away from the one GOD of the Jews.

What a shame! What a disaster!

:)
StarC

San Diego, CA

#487987 Nov 4, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
I suggest that ex-Jew Catholics in the first century, were the ones to use the term Christian for the first time, and that the so-called Gnostics branched off of Catholicism.
Once Constantine made Catholicism the only legal religion in the empire in the fourth century, all other religions including Gnosticism became illegal and punishable by death.
But the divisive and nutty gnostics did not own any form or wisdom from what I've studied.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>
Christian Persecution

In its first three centuries, the Christian church endured regular (though not constant) persecution at the hands of Roman authorities. This experience, and its resulting martyrs and apologists, would have significant historical and theological consequences for the developing faith.{4}

Among other things, persecution sparked the cult of the saints, facilitated the rapid growth and spread of Christianity, prompted defenses and explanations of Christianity (the "apologies"), and, in its aftermath, raised fundamental questions about the nature of the church.

The article that follows explores the history of persecution of the early church, some of the reasons behind it, and two important Christian responses to persecution: the glorification of martyrdom and the writings of the apologists.

Extent of the Persecutions
The total number of Christians martyred in the early church is unknown. Although some early writers speak of "great multitudes," modern scholars tend to believe the actual number is not so great as is sometimes imagined. Out of the 54 emperors who ruled between 30 and 311 AD, only about a dozen went out of their way to persecute Christians.{5}

It has been calculated that between the first persecution under Nero in 64 to the Edict of Milan in 313, Christians experienced 129 years of persecution and 120 years of toleration and peace.{6}

The Roman persecutions were generally sporadic, localized, and dependent on the political climate and disposition of each emperor. Moreover, imperial decrees against Christians were often directed against church property, the Scriptures, or clergy only. It has been estimated that more Christians have been martyred in the last 50 years than in the church's first 300 years.{7}

Reasons for Persecution

The Roman Empire was generally quite tolerant in its treatment of other religions. The imperial policy was generally one of incorporation - the local gods of a newly conquered area were simply added to the Roman pantheon and often given Roman names. Even the Jews, with their one god, were generally tolerated. So why the persecution of Christians?

In order to understand the Roman distrust of Christianity, one must understand the Roman view of religion. For the Romans, religion was first and foremost a social activity that promoted unity and loyalty to the state - a religious attitude the Romans called pietas, or piety. Cicero wrote that if piety in the Roman sense were to disappear, social unity and justic would perish along with it.{8}

The early Roman writers viewed Christianity not as another kind of pietas, piety, but as a superstitio, "superstition." Pliny, a Roman governor writing circa 110 AD, called Christianity a "superstition taken to extravagent lengths." Similarly, the Roman historian Tacitus called it "a deadly superstition," and the historian Suetonius called Christians "a class of persons given to a new and mischeivous superstition." {9} In this context, the word "superstition" has a slightly different connotation than it has today: for the Romans, it designated something foreign and different - in a negative sense. Religious beliefs were valid only in so far as it could be shown to be old and in line with ancient customs; new and innovative teachings were regarded with distrust.

Continue....

Since: Sep 09

Dawson Creek, Canada

#487988 Nov 4, 2013
So, even if we were not born in sin, it still makes no difference to the concept that when the god created Adam and Eve, he knew ahead of "time" that all humans were going to end up being vile-sinners.

Wasn't that nice of the god to be so thoughtful as to create lesser beings than his self, so he could in turn judge them and reject them to a life of eternal servitude in hell???

Religion is beyond stupid!
StarC

San Diego, CA

#487989 Nov 4, 2013
Continue...

The Roman distaste for Christianity, then, arose in large part from its sense that it was bad for society. In the third century, the Neoplatonist philosopher Porphyry wrote:
How can people not be in every way impious and atheistic who have apostatized from the customs of our ancestors through which every nation and city is sustained?... What else are they than fighters against God?{10}
Read more here

http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/his...

See June, the first Christians called Catholic by St Ignatius in the first century were very much persecuted also.
That's the way the world was in those day, very sad.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#487990 Nov 4, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
Christian Persecution
In its first three centuries, the Christian church endured regular (though not constant) persecution at the hands of Roman authorities. This experience, and its resulting martyrs and apologists, would have significant historical and theological consequences for the developing faith.{4}
Among other things, persecution sparked the cult of the saints, facilitated the rapid growth and spread of Christianity, prompted defenses and explanations of Christianity (the "apologies"), and, in its aftermath, raised fundamental questions about the nature of the church.
The article that follows explores the history of persecution of the early church, some of the reasons behind it, and two important Christian responses to persecution: the glorification of martyrdom and the writings of the apologists.
Extent of the Persecutions
The total number of Christians martyred in the early church is unknown. Although some early writers speak of "great multitudes," modern scholars tend to believe the actual number is not so great as is sometimes imagined. Out of the 54 emperors who ruled between 30 and 311 AD, only about a dozen went out of their way to persecute Christians.{5}
It has been calculated that between the first persecution under Nero in 64 to the Edict of Milan in 313, Christians experienced 129 years of persecution and 120 years of toleration and peace.{6}
The Roman persecutions were generally sporadic, localized, and dependent on the political climate and disposition of each emperor. Moreover, imperial decrees against Christians were often directed against church property, the Scriptures, or clergy only. It has been estimated that more Christians have been martyred in the last 50 years than in the church's first 300 years.{7}
Reasons for Persecution
The Roman Empire was generally quite tolerant in its treatment of other religions. The imperial policy was generally one of incorporation - the local gods of a newly conquered area were simply added to the Roman pantheon and often given Roman names. Even the Jews, with their one god, were generally tolerated. So why the persecution of Christians?
In order to understand the Roman distrust of Christianity, one must understand the Roman view of religion. For the Romans, religion was first and foremost a social activity that promoted unity and loyalty to the state - a religious attitude the Romans called pietas, or piety. Cicero wrote that if piety in the Roman sense were to disappear, social unity and justic would perish along with it.{8}
The early Roman writers viewed Christianity not as another kind of pietas, piety, but as a superstitio, "superstition." Pliny, a Roman governor writing circa 110 AD, called Christianity a "superstition taken to extravagent lengths." Similarly, the Roman historian Tacitus called it "a deadly superstition," and the historian Suetonius called Christians "a class of persons given to a new and mischeivous superstition." {9} In this context, the word "superstition" has a slightly different connotation than it has today: for the Romans, it designated something foreign and different - in a negative sense. Religious beliefs were valid only in so far as it could be shown to be old and in line with ancient customs; new and innovative teachings were regarded with distrust.
Continue....
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QUESTION..

IF EVERY CHRISTIAN ON EARTH WERE JUST LIKE YOU...BELIEVED WHAT YOU BELIEVE...

LIVE as you do...

LOVE as you do...

WORSHIPED GOD... as you do..

WAS AS FAITHFUL AND HONEST... as you are..

TO GOD...

and your fellowman .

WOULD YOU GUARANTEE.... THAT IF THEY DIED SUDDENLY...and faced God

THEY WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

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#487991 Nov 4, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I suggest :)
OK< I [suggest] that YOU SHUT UP and go back where you came from

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#487992 Nov 4, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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It is a well known fact of history that the Catholic denomination is based on paganism...
Really? In what way. Please be precise, so I might understand why you make that assertion. Take your time with it. It will probably be at least a few days before I am capable of even reading your reply.
StarC

San Diego, CA

#487993 Nov 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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QUESTION..
IF EVERY CHRISTIAN ON EARTH WERE JUST LIKE YOU...BELIEVED WHAT YOU BELIEVE...
LIVE as you do...
LOVE as you do...
WORSHIPED GOD... as you do..
WAS AS FAITHFUL AND HONEST... as you are..
TO GOD...
and your fellowman .
WOULD YOU GUARANTEE.... THAT IF THEY DIED SUDDENLY...and faced God
THEY WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?
Today yes, ask me again another day.

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