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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 627782 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#486553 Oct 30, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Statement of the 1920 Lambeth Conference
–”We utter an emphatic warning against the use of unnatural means for the avoidance of conception, together with the grave dangers — physical, moral, and religious — thereby incurred, and against the evils with which the extension of such use threatens the race. In opposition to the teaching which in the name of science and religion encourages married people in the deliberate cultivation of sexual union as an end in itself, we steadfastly uphold what must always be regarded as the governing consideration of Christian marriage. One is the primary purpose for which marriage exists — namely, the continuation of the race through the gift and heritage of children; the other is the paramount importance in married life of deliberate and thoughtful self-control.”[64]
Well, it's nice to know what the Anglican teaching is. Not sure how it applies here though.
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#486554 Oct 30, 2013
YTube wrote:
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100% PROOF Pope Francis is ANTICHRIST______
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =moaXuWJryu8XX
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Get lost, Oldjg.
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#486555 Oct 30, 2013
The Lambeth Conference is one of the global Anglican Communion's Instruments of Communion.

It takes place every ten years at the invitation of the Archbishop of Canterbury. It is the one occasion when all bishops can meet for worship, study and conversation. Archbishops, diocesan, assistant and suffragan bishops are invited.

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#486556 Oct 30, 2013
The Lamberth Conf may be Anglical. et me check the rest of my files

Since: Dec 11

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#486557 Oct 30, 2013
Writing in the encyclical on Christian Marriage, Pius XI said he wanted to speak at length on what many have the boldness to call the disagreeable burden of marriage, and which they say is to be carefully avoided by married people, not through virtuous continence but by frustrating the marriage act.

Some, he observed, justify this abuse on the ground that they are weary of children and wish to gratify their desires without their consequent burden. Others say they cannot either remain continent or have children because of difficulties for the mother or of trying family circumstances.

But no reason, however grave, may be put forward by which anything intrinsically against nature may become conformable to nature and morally good.

Since, therefore, the conjugal act is destined primarily by nature for the begetting of children, those who in exercising it deliberately frustrate its natural power and purpose, sin against nature and commit an action that is harmful and intrinsically vicious.

Since this is the pivotal argument against contraception, that it frustrates the purpose of marital intercourse, the application of natural law to coitus needs to be explained. Not a few people who practice birth control would be insulted if asked whether they approved lying, or murder or adultery. Nevertheless the same principles which outlaw these crimes also prohibit contraception.

Since: Jun 10

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#486558 Oct 30, 2013
hojo wrote:
Catholic (Universal) in Means and in Mission since the 1st Century
The Church is Catholic (meaning "universal") in two ways. First, the Church is universal because Christ "IS" the Church! It is HIS CHURCH!(Matthew 16) and Jesus HIMSELF is present in her (True body and True blood)!!! The (Universal Catholic Church is THE WORD OF GOD, made flesh, visible in HIS Church. The Church receives from Christ "the fullness of the means of salvation, the faith and the TRUTH"! In this fundamental sense, the Church was (Universally) Catholic on the day of Pentecost and will be so until Christ returns for the second time!!
Second, the Church is Catholic because she has a mission to the whole world, to bring ONE (and only one) Truth!!....... The People of God (while remaining one) must spread throughout the world to bring Jesus Christ (the True WORD OF GOD)to every generation! God made human nature one and now he decrees that all the scattered people be gathered together into "one body" (universally) under Jesus Christ, THE WORD OF GOD, made flesh!! By its gift of universality, the Church seeks the return of all humanity under Christ the Head of Church by HIS Earthly Appointed Representative as Bishop to lead the CHURCH as ALL Bishops have, for over 2000 years.(Second Vatican Council).
From the English dictionary:


catholic: universal in extent; encompassing all; wide-ranging universal in extent; encompassing all; wide-ranging

Catholic: of or pertaining to the Roman Catholic Church.
Jumper The Wise

Owensboro, KY

#486559 Oct 30, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Signed by Catholics ONLY.
No signature ... no words to be read in the handwriting of a man named Jesus ... anywhere on earth!
Even the story is silly. A Jew comes to earth, sent by his Jewish father to give a message that Jews won't be saved unless they become of the Christian faith.
It's so silly that only fools would buy the blarney.
The moving finger writes June.
The handwriting is on the wall June.
So it is written,so it shall be done JUNE.
'He who's name that is not written in the book of life shall parish J U N E!

You cant write this off J U N E!!!!

Since: Dec 11

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#486560 Oct 30, 2013
Traditionally speaking, the primary purpose of marriage is the generation and nurturing of offspring; the second purpose is the mutual help of spouses, and the third is the remedy for concupiscence.
Ludwig Ott, Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma (Rockford, IL: Tan Books, 1974), p. 462.
Catholic Culture,org
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#486561 Oct 30, 2013
"Husbands and wives "make love," they do not "make babies." They give expression to their love for one another, and a child may or may not be engendered by that act of love. The marital act is not a manufacturing process, and children are not products."
http://www.usccb.org/
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#486562 Oct 30, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Statement of the 1920 Lambeth Conference
–”We utter an emphatic warning against the use of unnatural means for the avoidance of conception, together with the grave dangers — physical, moral, and religious — thereby incurred, and against the evils with which the extension of such use threatens the race. In opposition to the teaching which in the name of science and religion encourages married people in the deliberate cultivation of sexual union as an end in itself, we steadfastly uphold what must always be regarded as the governing consideration of Christian marriage. One is the primary purpose for which marriage exists — namely, the continuation of the race through the gift and heritage of children; the other is the paramount importance in married life of deliberate and thoughtful self-control.”[64]
I'm pretty sure modern Anglicans through that out the window.
Liam

Saint Paul, MN

#486565 Oct 30, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
The Lambeth Conference is one of the global Anglican Communion's Instruments of Communion.
It takes place every ten years at the invitation of the Archbishop of Canterbury. It is the one occasion when all bishops can meet for worship, study and conversation. Archbishops, diocesan, assistant and suffragan bishops are invited.
I just checked that out on wiki. They evolve on their teachings every ten yrs, basically. In 2008 there was almost a fist fight because a Gay Bishop was passing out leaflets to the others and another Bishop tried to force an exorcism on the guy. Weirdos.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#486566 Oct 30, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
If people were taught to use birth control to downsize families, there would at least be less starvation and misery in the world.
But many times people believe that if they use birth control they offend a god.
How silly is the idea that a god WANTS more sinners to be born into sin so that the god has to then decide whether or not they are worthy of saving for the reward of eternal bliss ... or spend eternity in hell???
And if a god wanted all fetuses to become babies ... not one woman would ever have a miscarriage or give birth to a dead baby.
Ridiculous blather!
Its all baloney and made uf stuff by ancient church people centuries ago with their own power agendas. Problem is that many follow these old tales of long ago.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#486567 Oct 30, 2013
Liam wrote:
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You ever hear the expression 'two wrongs don't make a right'.
That's what you are trying to do with contraception. It ain't God's fault we humans completely messed up His plan. Why say after the mess:'ok, there are too many unwed mothers and bad dads, children are being neglected....lets create a pill where we can all still have lots of sex and not worry about having children until WE are financially secure and with a mate that we'll try and be with forever'??
You are trying to make it ok to patch up a sin with another sin. This is what happens when self proclaimed pastors attempt to dictate the Bible. At one time, these guys actually stood shoulder to shoulder with the Catholic and Orthodox Church on the subject. But now I guess the Holy Spirit is finally conveying the will of the Lord to this generation of Pastors. Ugh.
Claypool says.....It ain't God's fault we humans completely messed up His plan.

Michael says.....Does that mean you too?

Were imperfect beings Liam. We are apt to make mistakes.

If God really had a plan he could make us any way he wanted to and nothing would ever get screwed up..........and we could all live happily ever after.

....instead........

This adam/eve story and cain killing abel and later on jesus coming and then the crowd turns against him........yada yada yada!



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#486568 Oct 30, 2013
Pope Paul VI’s 1968 Encyclical Humanae Vitae brought out the procreative dimension more explicitly:

Each and every marital act must of necessity retain its intrinsic relationship to the procreation of human life....This particular doctrine, often expounded by the magisterium of the Church, is based on the inseparable connection, established by God, which man on his own initiative may not break, between the unitive significance and the procreative significance which are both inherent to the marriage act.

St. Thomas Aquinas and the Council of Trent explain that the goals of the marriage are two: the primary goal is the procreation and education of the offspring; the secondary goal is the mutual support of the spouses, either psychologically or as a remedy for concupiscence (Summa theologiae, Supplementum, Q. 67, a. 1, ad 4th; Catechism of Trent, Part II, VII,§§ 13-14).

Pope Paul VI in his encyclical "Humanae Vitae" stated, "Each and every marriage act must remain open to the transmission of life (No. 11). The Holy Father continued, "This particular doctrine, expounded on numerous occasions by the Magisterium, is based on the inseparable connection, established by God, which man on his own initiative may not break, between the unitive significance and the procreative significance which are both inherent to the marriage pact" ("Humanae Vitae," No. 12).

Historically, procreation has been a central, if not the central, purpose for marriage. Justin
Martyr of the second century felt that the desire to procreate was the only thing that legitimized
sex even for married couples (Haas et al., 2001).

Catechism of the Catholic ChurchPart II, Section Two, Chapter 3

2366 Fecundity is a gift, an end of marriage, for conjugal love naturally tends to be fruitful. A child does not come from outside as something added on to the mutual love of the spouses, but springs from the very heart of that mutual giving, as its fruit and fulfillment. So the Church, which "is on the side of life"[150] teaches that "each and every marriage act must remain open 'per se' to the transmission of life."[151] "This particular doctrine, expounded on numerous occasions by the Magisterium, is based on the inseparable connection, established by God, which man on his own initiative may not break, between the unitive significance and the procreative significance which are both inherent to the marriage act."[152]

2367 Called to give life, spouses share in the creative power and fatherhood of God.[153] "Married couples should regard it as their proper mission to transmit human life and to educate their children; they should realize that they are thereby cooperating with the love of God the Creator and are, in a certain sense, its interpreters. They will fulfill this duty with a sense of human and Christian responsibility."[154]

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#486569 Oct 30, 2013
Liam wrote:
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Not so, Nick. God already established the form upon which life shall enter this world. Perhaps a married couple who can't conceive a child have a different calling than you and me.
This isn't just the Catholic Church's position either. Its also the Orthodox Church position too. I find it comforting to see how time and time again, your Bishops side with the CC.
And as I told you in past post Clay,this is MY opinion not the Orthodox Churches position. So why again are you bringing up the Orthodox Church.My church has nothing to do with my positions onbirth control or IVF

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486570 Oct 30, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I told you before, "I'll take my chances"
I read it, and in return I informed you that the belief that you are saved and others will spend eternity in hell with a devil ... appeals to your emotions as being based on truth.

But I suggest if you believed that YOU were one of unfortunates ending up in hell, you would not be an enthusiastic Catholic.

But never mind ... your hell might "get" me ... but Islam's hell will "get" you ... or for that "matter" maybe Islam's hell will get both of us.

Hahahahahaha

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#486571 Oct 30, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no idea who you're talking about.
Why don't you try reading the links instead of just throwing out your own uninformed opinions.
Yes, it is intrinsically evil to take a life, rose:
"Unspoken is that most human beings created in the laboratory will die before even given a chance. It is commonly estimated that only one in six embryos created following IVF will make it to birth. However, the numbers published by Britain’s Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority may be more accurate. In July of 2011 Britain announced that for every child born by IVF thirty embryos were created.
This means that for a typical couple seeking IVF, somewhere between five and thirty of their children died so they could give birth to one. On a world-wide scale, this means that 30-150 million children have died because of IVF."
These are facts, rose. If you've been ordered not to respond to them, fine. It's of no concern to me. But I will keep presenting them. They are not my personal opinions. God makes the calls, not I.
ORDERED???

By who .
You responded,to Herm after SERA,told about her grand child ..

Then said,IVF was evil ..coincidence??

Please,.no one is,fooled by your response after Seras,

I had already stated my view,..they should not make,so many..USE THEM or they should adopt the ones they have out if possible ..I think there are organizations,that try to do this,...SINCE THESE,EMBRYOS,ALREADY EXIST ...they should be allowed life .

One of you says,the method is mainly used by gay people??

Again no empathy ....
NOT destroy them ..nor use them for experiments ...

Now,you responded to Nick ..his,family is,NOT destroying any embryos .
Their grand child is not evil nor the result of anything EVIL ....You go on about things,wit no regard for families,who desperately want children ...And have born one ..And hopefully more this,way .

I think.the very fact that GOD,allowed the baby to implant and live
Means, she has a God given soul .

So why not leave it up to Him..

And no one,ORDERS me how,or who to post to..

Since: Dec 11

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#486572 Oct 30, 2013
I am very much aware that Vatican 2 and afterward softened the idea that procreation is the only purpose of marriage.
In my initial post I was cautious not to say that the Church said procreation was the ONLY purpose.
Nevertheless I present the Church's longstanding teaching on this.

Since: Feb 12

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#486573 Oct 30, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
"Bulgarian Orthodox Church slams In vitro fertilization, surrogacy"
'The Holy Synod of Bulgarian Orthodox Church has declared reservations about IVF and surrogacy, viewing them as "human interference that is counter to God's will in the existential foundation of life"
"the much desired parenthood is turning into a goal in itself, that replaces the primary cause of the closeness between a man and woman. At present, over 4,000,000 'redundant' human embryos are awaiting their adaption and birth. Thus, cyro preservation is encouraging the trading with human beings, and such globalized commercialization....."
www.novinite.com/view_news.php...
I repeat...THIS IS MY OWN OPINION NOT THE ORTHODOX CHURCHES POSITION SO STOP TRYING TO TIE THE ORTHODOX CHURCH TO MY POSITION.....Unless my position is for you to argue for another reason..??

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486574 Oct 30, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>The moving finger writes June.
The handwriting is on the wall June.
So it is written,so it shall be done JUNE.
'He who's name that is not written in the book of life shall parish J U N E!
You cant write this off J U N E!!!!
You forgot about all those other hells, where evil-beings are lusting to burn your Christians "soul" for eternity.

I can hardly wait until we enjoy the view from down below. I'll be able to see Jerry Falwell's "soul" preaching at Jehovah how to behave in a Christian manner suited to Jerry's tastes.

Next scene ... Jerry lands in Judaism's fiery pit of Gehenhna.

:)

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