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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#486194 Oct 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW ... you really are impressed with your own Gnosticism "knowledge."
If only you as the new age spiritual leader could lead us all by the nose to the trough of your knowledge ... how fortunate for all of us.
:)
~~~

I have no desire to lead any one by the nose or any other part of their anatomy...

Going to a Christ-less grave is a decision that is made by the individual

no one leads them nor are the forced...it is your choice.

God has given his Only Son begotten Son that you would not have to spend

eternity in hell..

You turn or burn..Your choice...No other person on earth can make that

decision for you... You decide personally to receive his grace...and you

decide personally to reject it..

it's up to you...NO ONE ELSE CAN OR WILL/CAN TAKE THE BLAME...

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486195 Oct 29, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Why do you refuse to beleive Jesus when he speaks of this entity?
"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God."
<quoted text>
Because I ask a question to someone who professes to me that they "believe in Jesus", yet when I show them texts taht they do not believe, you automatically ASSUME I believe in this Jesus too?
Wow June - you really enjoy projecting.
Maybe you should start trying to understand why people post what they do, before presuming you have the answers already.
You don't "Christian".
I've read enough of your preaching to comprehend that you favor the gnostic B.S. over all other Christian B.S.

Now you are trying to claim that you DON'T believe in Jesus or god ... yet you peddle gnositicism as truth???

You are quite the double-talker.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486197 Oct 29, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have no desire to lead any one by the nose or any other part of their anatomy...
Going to a Christ-less grave is a decision that is made by the individual
no one leads them nor are the forced...it is your choice.
God has given his Only Son begotten Son that you would not have to spend
eternity in hell..
You turn or burn..Your choice...No other person on earth can make that
decision for you... You decide personally to receive his grace...and you
decide personally to reject it..
it's up to you...NO ONE ELSE CAN OR WILL/CAN TAKE THE BLAME...
How are you doing in being a disciple of Jesus and his pure and unadulterated Judaism???

Are you learning to sing praises to the real Lord ... HALLELUJAH ... as in Praise ye Jehovah???

I suggest you don't hide from Jehovah. After all ... he is Jesus' father ... and don't forget that little issue of him "creating evil!"

Don't be naughty now. Get right to your studies ... before it is too late and you miss your call HOME to Olam Haba ... where all the faithful Jews will spend eternity.

Did you appreciate my "sermon?"

:)

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486198 Oct 29, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
No apology needed June.
From my perspective it "was" needed ... thank you.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#486199 Oct 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't accept your beliefs of Jesus OR the Catholic or Protestant beliefs in the existence of Jesus or what was said or done by him ... et cetera.
I believe that they were all myths ... the gnostic ones included.
Thanks for sharing.

But I still don't believe you.

I think you are just pandering to the Atheists.

:o)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#486200 Oct 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I've read enough of your preaching to comprehend that you favor the gnostic B.S. over all other Christian B.S.
Now you are trying to claim that you DON'T believe in Jesus or god ... yet you peddle gnositicism as truth???
You are quite the double-talker.
I've posted that Jesus "supposedly" said this or that, or did this or that.

I've also stated CLEARLY, I will not know if any of this is true, until I die.

You seem to keep leaving that portent out, just to argue other bullshite verses.

You need to keep me complete, and not start separating me from me.

Okay?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#486201 Oct 29, 2013
who="Michael" <quoted text>
....Just going back 150 years ago the basic knowledge of a cowboy or farmer was exceedingly limited. Turn the clock back 2,000 years imagine the knowledge or brain capacity of the common people then! Not very much, so it didn't take much for a David Copperfield person to claim all these miraculous things happened or were going to happen to make your life better, and as the stories were told the stories became bigger and more believable.
There is not one eye witness hand me down story of any miracles by any of the thousands that were supposedly miraclized. Not one story outside the scriptures by anyone of a Mary/Joseph, or 3 wise men, or miraculous birth, King Herod slaughtering infants, or crucifixion, or 3 nights in a tomb etc.
....something is wrong, that no one outside the scripture writers saw anything.

----------
You must be rather young. My history books told wonderful stories about our history; my children's history books were much the same. I began to see a tremendous difference around 1960; the books were being re-written to show a more secular picture.

In recent years it has gotten worse; our children's schoolbooks are beginning to glorify Islam, and one would believe that ISLAM BUILT AMERICA!

It is not a new concept. Satan attempted to re-write God's instructions to Adam and Eve. Our religious history has suffered much because of unbelievers who struggle constantly to erase it. Islam jihadists burned whole libraries in Christian countries.

I've been around long enough to see these things happening. Google 'Communism, Congressional Record, Jan. 10, 1963' and you will see the plan for 'taking America without a shot' written right there.(Apparently no one read it.) If you will read it, you can follow the 'plan' as it has been working over the past 50-60 years.

It is not that 'nothing' was written...it is more a matter of what has been erased.

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486203 Oct 29, 2013
I've come to conclude that I might be able by joining one religion to avoid hell. But as there are so many hells down below ... I'm bound to spend eternity by falling into one or the other.

I hope I don't end up in Islam's hell with Jerry Falwell.

If that happens I'll never forgive Jehovah ... ever, ever, ever.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486204 Oct 29, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
It is not that 'nothing' was written...it is more a matter of what has been erased.
KayMarie
And of course you, as a Protestant KNOW ALL those details.

You claimed that god chose you to be a witness for him???

Was that Jehovah or the generic god of your dreams?

:)

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486205 Oct 29, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I've posted that Jesus "supposedly" said this or that, or did this or that.
I've also stated CLEARLY, I will not know if any of this is true, until I die.
You seem to keep leaving that portent out, just to argue other bullshite verses.
You need to keep me complete, and not start separating me from me.
Okay?
Do you, or don't you believe that Jesus was real, and not just a myth?

If you believe he was real, you believe he preached. If you believe the story of Jesus is myth and there was no such character, that will settle the issue one way or the other.

No more pretense on your part.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486206 Oct 29, 2013
The Jews at one time were polytheists, believing in multiple gods and goddesses.

Asherah was worshipped as a Jewish goddess.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>

The monotheist faction seems to have gained considerable influence during the 8th century BCE, and by the 7th century BCE, based on the testimony of the Deuteronomistic source, monotheistic worship of Yahweh seems to have become official, reflected in the removal of the image of Asherah from the temple in Jerusalem under Hezekiah (r. 715Ė686 BCE) so that monotheistic worship of the god of Israel can be argued to have originated during his rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judai...

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486207 Oct 29, 2013
Queen of Heaven was a title given to a number of ancient sky goddesses in the ancient Mediterranean and Near East, in particular Anat, Isis, Innana, Astarte, Hera and possibly Asherah (by the prophet Jeremiah).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Heaven_ (Antiquity)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#486208 Oct 29, 2013
who="Michael" <quoted text>
One minute the bible claims Jesus is practicing his jewish faith in the temple and loved by all, the next minute he is the head of a brand new religion and people are screaming for his death. HUH!
There is a big chunk of the bible puzzle missing.

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Jesus brought no 'new' religion. He simplified the one that the self-righteous 'church' folk had twisted up. He simply made salvation available to the Gentile's, and the common folk that the Pharisee's and Lawyers had kept out. Remember? Jesus said to the Lawyers: You won't go in (to righteousness), but you stand in the doorway, and keep others from going in.

It was the 'Church know-it-alls', and the Lawyers who screamed for His death.

Jesus simply opened The Door, and let US come in...

KayMarie

“OneLordOneFaith Eph4:5”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#486209 Oct 29, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="StarC" <quoted text>

Star...I'm sure you know that we are individuals. My husband makes his own posts, and...like everyone else...he expresses his mind.
There are many Pentecostal churches. As a matter of fact...Jesus started the Pentecostal movement when He told the Apostles to wait for the Holy Ghost power before they began the ministry He gave them.
That move has been refreshed many times since the day of Pentecost. It showed up in Catholic groups in the early 1970's.
There have been many men and women who have fallen short of the life they should have lived...this happens in all churches. The CC is having problems. We should not shame the gospel because of the failure of any person. "The reproaches of them that reproached thee, fell on Me." Psalm 69:9 Church gossip always hurts the CHURCH/JESUS.
Condemnation is of the devil. Jesus is merciful, and the Prodigal Sons of the church will be forgiven and cleansed when they turn to Him in repentance.
Who knows...if we are more forgiving, we might just bring some of them back to Him.(The Samaritan man rescued a Jew who had fallen...with some help...into the 'gutter'.:)
KayMarie
The Catholic Church celebrates The Day of the Pentecost after Lent annually. This is when OUR Church stated, over 2000 years ago.
It didnít show up in the 70s as you stated above.
Which one of these are you?
All seem to have started in the 20th century. On the day of the Pentecost, NO, thatís not what your history shows

http://www.cai.org/bible-studies/history-pent...
Founding of the United Pentecostal Church:
In 1916, 156 ministers split from the Assemblies of God over conflicting views on the oneness of God and water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ. The UPCI was formed by the merger of the Pentecostal Church Inc. and the Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ, in 1945.
http://christianity.about.com/od/United-Pente...

The Pentecostal Church in America
By KEVIN SACK
In 1905, when William J. Seymour attended Charles F. Parhamís Bible school in Houston, Mr. Parham required him to sit in the hallway and listen to lectures through an open door. Mr. Seymour was black, the son of former slaves, and the mores of the times in Texas dictated that he could not sit with his white counterparts.
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/...

A BRIEF HISTORY OF PENTECOSTALISM 1906
(The Three Waves)*
From the second century to the nineteenth century, there is no historical evidence that godly, orthodox believers spoke in tongues. We do have instances of tongues speaking in these centuries, but in every case the people speaking in tongues belonged to heretical groups.(See #15 in the report "The Charismatic Movement: 35 Doctrinal Issues.") From Montanus (2nd Century) to Edward Irving (19th century), instances of "tongues" within the church were never considered to be part of genuine Christianity. Also, we should note that these "heretics" who spoke in tongues were speaking some kind of emotional, nonsense gibberish and not real languages as was the case in Acts chapter 2.
In 1901 at Bethel Bible College, Topeka, Kansas, Agnes Ozman received what she called the baptism of the Spirit and spoke in "tongues." The practice then became part of the Holiness movement of the church in the United States. In 1906, tongues were spoken on Azusa Street in Los Angeles, California, and out of these two events in 1901 and 1906 grew the mainline Pentecostal denominations which are still with us today (Assemblies of God, etc.).
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psycholog...

The Apostolic Faith Church is a worldwide religious organization, with international headquarters in Portland, Oregon. Our roots stem from a 1906 revival on Azusa Street in Los Angeles.
http://blog.guidedbytruth.com/pentecostalhist...

And then there is Aimee,1944.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486210 Oct 29, 2013
The men that wanted to dominate women created a monotheistic religion with a male god that they taught the followers expected worship and obedience. It was the men of the Jewish faith that wanted control over women and so they took the goddess out of the picture as though she never existed.

Religion's home base was and is manipulation.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#486211 Oct 29, 2013
who="doug" <quoted text> read John 3:13 nobody goes to heaven

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READ! "No man (HAS) gone up to heaven..." It doesn't say that 'no man WILL'. The Bible clearly promises otherwise.

No man COULD go there until Jesus opened the Door...

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486213 Oct 29, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Michael" <quoted text>
One minute the bible claims Jesus is practicing his jewish faith in the temple and loved by all, the next minute he is the head of a brand new religion and people are screaming for his death. HUH!
There is a big chunk of the bible puzzle missing.
----------
Jesus brought no 'new' religion. He simplified the one that the self-righteous 'church' folk had twisted up. He simply made salvation available to the Gentile's, and the common folk that the Pharisee's and Lawyers had kept out. Remember? Jesus said to the Lawyers: You won't go in (to righteousness), but you stand in the doorway, and keep others from going in.
It was the 'Church know-it-alls', and the Lawyers who screamed for His death.
Jesus simply opened The Door, and let US come in...
KayMarie
Ask KayMarie and she will tell you that Jesus loves Protestants ... and that he won't allow Jews in Christian heaven with KayMarie ... unless the Jews first become Protestants ... as IS KayMarie.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486214 Oct 29, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
The Catholic Church celebrates The Day of the Pentecost after Lent annually. This is when OUR Church stated, over 2000 years ago.
It didnít show up in the 70s as you stated above.
Which one of these are you?
All seem to have started in the 20th century. On the day of the Pentecost, NO, thatís not what your history shows
http://www.cai.org/bible-studies/history-pent...
Founding of the United Pentecostal Church:
In 1916, 156 ministers split from the Assemblies of God over conflicting views on the oneness of God and water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ. The UPCI was formed by the merger of the Pentecostal Church Inc. and the Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ, in 1945.
http://christianity.about.com/od/United-Pente...
The Pentecostal Church in America
By KEVIN SACK
In 1905, when William J. Seymour attended Charles F. Parhamís Bible school in Houston, Mr. Parham required him to sit in the hallway and listen to lectures through an open door. Mr. Seymour was black, the son of former slaves, and the mores of the times in Texas dictated that he could not sit with his white counterparts.
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/...
A BRIEF HISTORY OF PENTECOSTALISM 1906
(The Three Waves)*
From the second century to the nineteenth century, there is no historical evidence that godly, orthodox believers spoke in tongues. We do have instances of tongues speaking in these centuries, but in every case the people speaking in tongues belonged to heretical groups.(See #15 in the report "The Charismatic Movement: 35 Doctrinal Issues.") From Montanus (2nd Century) to Edward Irving (19th century), instances of "tongues" within the church were never considered to be part of genuine Christianity. Also, we should note that these "heretics" who spoke in tongues were speaking some kind of emotional, nonsense gibberish and not real languages as was the case in Acts chapter 2.
In 1901 at Bethel Bible College, Topeka, Kansas, Agnes Ozman received what she called the baptism of the Spirit and spoke in "tongues." The practice then became part of the Holiness movement of the church in the United States. In 1906, tongues were spoken on Azusa Street in Los Angeles, California, and out of these two events in 1901 and 1906 grew the mainline Pentecostal denominations which are still with us today (Assemblies of God, etc.).
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psycholog...
The Apostolic Faith Church is a worldwide religious organization, with international headquarters in Portland, Oregon. Our roots stem from a 1906 revival on Azusa Street in Los Angeles.
http://blog.guidedbytruth.com/pentecostalhist...
And then there is Aimee,1944.
To shorten up your sermon ... let's cut to your "concept" of truth.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>

Athanasian Creed
1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#486215 Oct 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe the ancients knew how the universe started, or whether it always existed ... or do believe they just "guessed" at those issue as we do in today's era.
I can't(personally) say they knew exactly when or if. Evidence in several ancient cultures shows a very acute understanding of the works of the solar system and some parts of the universe(some recording events going back 400,000 years or more) They seemed to have had an understanding of physics and mathematics that surpasses even what we have discovered today....and it appears to have been a "global" civilization....one dominant before the last ice age. The last part is partly speculation on my part on the timeline.
Even at that, they could have speculated on some or all of it, but mathematics, physics, and discovery are proving otherwise.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#486216 Oct 29, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="doug" <quoted text> read John 3:13 nobody goes to heaven
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READ! "No man (HAS) gone up to heaven..." It doesn't say that 'no man WILL'. The Bible clearly promises otherwise.
No man COULD go there until Jesus opened the Door...
KayMarie
Would you be satisfied if I removed your new testament and handed you the old testament that was written by faithful Jews?

NO ... you say???

WHY NOT???

Do you believe the Jews lied when they wrote that they were God's chosen few in the old testament and that the Catholics wrote truth when they compiled all the data to their own satisfactions in the new testament???

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