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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 695420 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#484510 Oct 24, 2013
Liam wrote:
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Who's in this group of people? Who decides who's in it? Who decides what the Bible is saying?
Answering "the Holy Spirit does" is taking the ignorant- easy way out.
The Bible is not all that Christ revealed and definitely not all that the Apostles set up. If they'd done that, they most certainly would have given us a list of Biblical Books to include as well as tell us to go by the Bible alone.
There is nothing in scripture to support your theology.
The Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth per scripture. Not the Bible. If the Bible was the pillar and bulwark of truth, than Paul would have called the Bible as such. Instead, he called the Church it.
You can read what their Disciples wrote about what they thought the Church was, or you can ignore it and pretend your scenario is truth.
~~~

THE CHURCH IS...

ekkle&#772;sia
ek-klay-see'-ah
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is,(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):- assembly, church.

THE CHURCH OF ROME HAS CALLED THEM SELVES OUT AND BECOME

koo-ber'-nay-sis
From &#954;&#965;&#946; &#949;&#961;&#957; &#945;&#769;&#969; kubernao&#772; (of Latin origin, to steer); pilotage, that is,(figuratively) directorship (in the church):- government.

A DICTATORSHIP...
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THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CHURCH IS UPON THE SHOULDERS OF CHRIST AND UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE HOLY GHOST...

THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECY CONCERNING JESUS SAYS...

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

NOTE...IT DOES NOT NAME PETER OR A WARING.. ARROGANT... SELFISH... EVIL...EXCLUSIVE... ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ....HERE

Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever.

---
GOD IS THE ONE THAT PERFORMS IT ...NOT THE CORRUPT ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIGIOUS SOCIETY

The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484511 Oct 24, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
He is,God ..He is,Holy. He Created the,World ..HE CAN DO ANYTHING .
if Jesus,told us,that He,and the Father are one ..
That the Father calls us,to JESUS..
THAT belief I JESUS,as,Lord ..leads to Eternal Life ..
I belief it ..through Faith..by the gift of Grace .
No TV show,Thanks,.
They have those .
I am saying what I KNOW And believe ..
Jesus is not "God"
- please post the exact passage that has Jesus stating "I am God."

Jesus can do anythign, but "God" can't stop a 14 year old from stabbing a teacher, or protecting children so they don't freeze to death. Right?

You have a very odd sense of reality. Well, maybe it is because you would prefer to lie about "knowing God".

Why is it that you cannot be honest and admit that you, like any human, can honestly say we don't know "God"?

Why do you want to lie to yourself? Is this comforting for you?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#484512 Oct 24, 2013
"Believe me, there are some of you standing here who will know nothing of death until you have seen the kingdom of God coming in its power!" - Mark 9:1

Did Jesus lie or is the Bible wrong ?

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#484513 Oct 24, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's in this group of people? Who decides who's in it? Who decides what the Bible is saying?
Answering "the Holy Spirit does" is taking the ignorant- easy way out.
The Bible is not all that Christ revealed and definitely not all that the Apostles set up. If they'd done that, they most certainly would have given us a list of Biblical Books to include as well as tell us to go by the Bible alone.
There is nothing in scripture to support your theology.
The Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth per scripture. Not the Bible. If the Bible was the pillar and bulwark of truth, than Paul would have called the Bible as such. Instead, he called the Church it.
You can read what their Disciples wrote about what they thought the Church was, or you can ignore it and pretend your scenario is truth.
Who BUT God ...FATHER ..SON...SPIRIT ..would REALLY know,if any person
Has,a,relationship with HIM..

People can go through the,motions,in any Church...yet God is, stranger o their heart ..

A,priest does,not determine who loves,God

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#484514 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
For the people who disagree with me.....
God created US......
The Word of God defines the "CALLED OUT" Christians.....
Why would you believe that the "CALLED OUT" have any authority to define who God is???
The Word of God is SUPREME over the "CALLED OUT" NOT the other way around.....
The "CALLED OUT" CANNOT be supreme over the Word of God.....
I disagreed with you, and even posted support to what I posted.

...and this is the best refutation you could come up - the same post as before?

*sighs*

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#484515 Oct 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is not "God"
- please post the exact passage that has Jesus stating "I am God."
Jesus can do anythign, but "God" can't stop a 14 year old from stabbing a teacher, or protecting children so they don't freeze to death. Right?
You have a very odd sense of reality. Well, maybe it is because you would prefer to lie about "knowing God".
Why is it that you cannot be honest and admit that you, like any human, can honestly say we don't know "God"?
Why do you want to lie to yourself? Is this comforting for you?
Jesus is not "God"

ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURE BELOW ...IN GOD'S EYES YOU ARE ANTICHRIST

1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?

He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

NOTE
1Jn_2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#484516 Oct 24, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's in this group of people? Who decides who's in it? Who decides what the Bible is saying?
Answering "the Holy Spirit does" is taking the ignorant- easy way out.
The Bible is not all that Christ revealed and definitely not all that the Apostles set up. If they'd done that, they most certainly would have given us a list of Biblical Books to include as well as tell us to go by the Bible alone.
There is nothing in scripture to support your theology.
The Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth per scripture. Not the Bible. If the Bible was the pillar and bulwark of truth, than Paul would have called the Bible as such. Instead, he called the Church it.
You can read what their Disciples wrote about what they thought the Church was, or you can ignore it and pretend your scenario is truth.
Clay,

Everything the church ("CALLED OUT") believes and practices depends upon HIM and should be built around HIM.

WHY????

Because Jesus is the Word of God....

1 Corinthians 3:9-11

9 <<<<<For we are co-workers in Godís service; you are Godís field, Godís building.>>>>>

10 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should ~build with care.~

11 *For NO one can lay any foundation other than the ONE already laid, <which is Jesus Christ.>*

Again, the Word of God defines us "CALLED OUT."

The "CALLED OUT" does NOT define the Word of God....

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#484517 Oct 24, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
GOOD MORNING!!! What a beautiful day!!!
Good morning Sis,..
Might go down to be in the,eightiess today ..Lol
Has been about 91.

It's,a cold front ..lol

Not kidding that a,what the,weTher says,..our first cold front ..

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#484518 Oct 24, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
So, based upon your logic, "sin" is irrelevant for any salvation, if Jesus already "paid for them".
You really don't know what Jesus taught, huh?
We,MUST REPENT ..live in Christ ..make every effort to not Sin again ..

IT IS,FINISHED ..the sacrifice has been done ...what ???
We should kill calves,and lambs,now????

Why WAS,HIS LIFE FORFEIT ...

As,TellingTelling,ONLY UNBLEMISHED SON OF ADAM ...that's why He,was,fully human aS,well as,fully divine
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#484519 Oct 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU WROTE
Protestant groups display a wide variety of different doctrines. However, virtually all claim to believe in the teachings of sola scriptura ("by Scripture alone"óthe idea that we must use only the Bible when forming our theology) and sola fide ("by faith alone"ó the idea that we are justified by faith only).

WE SOLA SCRIPTURIANS HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE....
You bible only "fundies" have been "going downhill" ever since Luther "invented his "man-made" (pre-fabricated) Sola Ecclesia fictitious (half-truth, half heresy) Christianity some 500 years ago at the beginning of the Reformation!!! Jesus Christ NEVER taught to His Apostles (or ANYONE else for that matter) that The TRUTH of the WORD OF GOD was in the bible alone!! PROOF of what Jesus ACTUALLY taught is the WORD OF GOD ALONE which comes to us from Christ HIMSELF and HIS Apostles through BOTH the written and the oral tradition (2 Thess 2:15) which has been entrusted to the Church that Jesus builds upon the rock of Peter (Matthew 16:13-21. The ineffable wisdom of God is (only) made known through HIS Church (Eph 3:9-10)which is PROVEN, VERIFIED and AUTHENTICATED by Paul in I Timothy 3:15, when he calls THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH! Your distorted and perverted "man-made" bible only (opinions) Confrinting--- are just another one of the (contradicting) 42,000+
"editorialist "bible waiving" preachers" that DO NOT SPEAK FOR GOD and never will!-------- ONLY, until you come to the TRUTH of the TRUE WORD OF GOD (2 Thess 2:15) and TRUE Salvation in Jesus Christ that HE gave us over 2000 years ago, in and through HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church,(only then) will your preaching begin to have ANY resemblance of "credibility"!!! Currently "it has little of nothing at all"!!!!!!! Your bible only ministry Confrinting, is nothing more than a vindictive and hatefilled anti-catholic (opinionated)------trash talking"----"clangin g cymbal or a noisy gong" (I Cor 13:1)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#484520 Oct 24, 2013
Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS

Set THEIR affection on the THINGS OF THE earth.

THEIR FIRST LOVE ... FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THEIR

DYNASTY IN ROME...THEIR POMP PRIDE POPE...PROGRAMS RITUALS

MARY IS THE DELIGHT OF THEIR LIVES ..

SAINT ARE SECONDARY...

JESUS AND GOD GET HONORABLE MENTION OCCASIONALLY ...

THEIR FIRST LOVE IS THEIR POSITION OF DICTATORIAL STANCE

THAT THEY HAVE LIED ON GOD TO ASSUME ...
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484522 Oct 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay,
Everything the church ("CALLED OUT") believes and practices depends upon HIM and should be built around HIM.
WHY????
Because Jesus is the Word of God....
1 Corinthians 3:9-11
9 <<<<<For we are co-workers in Godís service; you are Godís field, Godís building.>>>>>
10 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should ~build with care.~
11 *For NO one can lay any foundation other than the ONE already laid, <which is Jesus Christ.>*
Again, the Word of God defines us "CALLED OUT."
The "CALLED OUT" does NOT define the Word of God....
Have you read the Bible? Why on Earth would you think that Jesus Christ left us with some misc writings of SOME of His Apostles, that would be published 1400 yrs later, as the vehicle in which Christ wished to convey His truth to the world?
And also, the alarming thing is, you believe the Apostle didn't properly articulate the truth, because nobody in early Church history came to understand the Church as you define it. Nor any the teachings on Communion, Baptism and Confession..

Your scenario is a conspiracy Christianity. It makes no sense, truth. Clearly and irrefutably, Our Lord established Apostolic succession as the pillar and bulwark of truth. This is evident by historic fact on how the Bible came to fruition in the first place.
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484523 Oct 24, 2013
OldJG wrote:
In reading the Bible I found this reference to the Roman Catholic church. The Roman Catholic church is described in I Timothy 4:1-3 and it reads as follows:
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (KJV)
The Roman Catholic church has done and is doing the following as stated in these Bible verses ......
1. Departed from the faith
2. Given heed to seducing spirits
3. Given heed to the DOCTRINES of devils
4. Spoken lies in hypocrisy
5. Their conscience seared with a hot iron
6. Forbidding to marry
7. Commanding to abstain from meats
I Timothy 4:1-3, "Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. These people are hypocrites and liars, and their consciences are dead. They will say it is wrong to be married and wrong to eat certain foods. But God created those foods to be eaten with thanks by faithful people who know the truth." (NLT)
Your scavenger hunt with Bible verses doesn't add up. Clearly, Paul is describing you and the born again movement. But you're too arrogant to notice.
I'll tell you what, if Jesus Christ secretly waited to have the likes of you to convey his truth to the world, then he's a fraud anyway. And Christianity is just another man-made religion.
I hate to say it, but I believe the Bible has become you diety. I see the amount of ignorance that's required in order for someone to except your new and strange gospel. Not to mention, the non stop lies you rely on in order to debunk the Catholic Church.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#484524 Oct 24, 2013
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's in this group of people? Who decides who's in it? Who decides what the Bible is saying?
Answering "the Holy Spirit does" is taking the ignorant- easy way out.
The Bible is not all that Christ revealed and definitely not all that the Apostles set up. If they'd done that, they most certainly would have given us a list of Biblical Books to include as well as tell us to go by the Bible alone.
There is nothing in scripture to support your theology.
The Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth per scripture. Not the Bible. If the Bible was the pillar and bulwark of truth, than Paul would have called the Bible as such. Instead, he called the Church it.
You can read what their Disciples wrote about what they thought the Church was, or you can ignore it and pretend your scenario is truth.
That would be Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Peter Popoff, Melissa Scott, Arnold Murray, Prestonites, Campbellites, Benny Hinnites, Confrintites, Rozezites, Ted Haggardites, Padites, Margites, LTMites, guessites,TRUTHites, Mikeites etc.

Yeah Christ established his church. He gave the Keys to Peter. He said I name you Peter (Rock) and upon this Rock I will build my church. Peter is the rock and Jesus prayed that he would strengthen the others. Notice how when Jesus reinstated him after his denial. He called him Simon to his fallen name. 3x he asks him do you love me and even more then these which were the other Apostles who were right there. 3x was Holy Tradition when instituting an office. The King had 12 servants but only 1 was given the keys until the king returns. The keys werent the bible not put together yet of the books they choose to accept with their own interpretation. The Lord said he would send them a helper, The Holy Spirit. Muslims say it was Mohmmad. In Acts Peter boldly leads them out and in the temple he recalls the words of Jesus. When they bring you before the synagogues the holy sprit will tell you what to say. You may have heard the chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Well God often chose the most unlikely to raise them up to do his will to greater show his Glory. So those today who demean Peter and act like they are better demean the Lord and his choice as they do with Mary. His confession if you will was revealed from the Lord, but the Lord did not say he would build his church upon himself or the revelation that was given to Peter. He gave the Keys to Peter and all the Apostles would have authority to bind and loose, but not to the exclusion of the Key Holder as it was in Israel and the Church is the New Israel. According to Truth the church is any group of false teachers called out who say they follow scripture. Every heresy used scripture to seperate themselves from the church. Wherever 2 or 3 heretics/false teachers are gathered apart from the church. No Jesus is not there. He picked the Apostles They chose others and said to remember what you have learned and from whom you have learned it. Paul instructs Timothy much later not to ordain just anyone. In Protestant world that means a mail order preacher degree. Protestants follow charismatic men and interpretations that fit with their world view of individual truths. Self As Hojo pointed out Paul in Ephesians says that Through The Church the truth would be revealed. The pillar of the truth. Peter warns the unlearned wrest scripture unto their destruction, but all Protestants have made themselves authorities saying they know the truth. The bible has something to say about teachers as well ignored by most protestants. Paul was sent to Ananias a member of the church to be ordained and Baptized. So we see clearly there was a hierarchy. Their were approved men who were chosen. They were given authority and their was always monarchal Bishops never just a body of loose believers each doing there own thing. Correction was given this is what most of the letters about. Have a good day.
Michael

Canada

#484525 Oct 24, 2013
StarC wrote:
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And I bring the news YOU donít want to hear.[LOL]
New Catholic Churches opening up
1)Longmont, Co
http://www.timescall.com/ci_21703002/st-franc...
2)St Francis of Assisi in Longmont
http://www.timescall.com/ci_21703002/st-franc...
3)Texas
http://blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2012/04/...
4)New Catholic Church opens its doors in the United Arab Emirates
http://www.romereports.com/palio/new-catholic...
5)The church will be open to all from this Friday. Masses will be conducted in English with services in Malayalam, Tagalog, Tamil, Konkani, Arabic and Sinhalese.
Read more:
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/new-c...
6)Apr 15, 2013
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/252821/2/N... -
Images of new Churches
https://www.google.com/search...
http://catholicmanhattan.blogspot.com/
7)New Church opens in Reedly
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story...
8)AND MY MOST FAVIORTE!!! Christ Cathedral in my area!! YES!
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/the-crys...
GOOGLE catholic churches closing...and read the long list

It is no laughing matter.

Here are some lists of church closures.

6catholic churches closing.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/six...



12 catholic churches closing.

http://www.wishtv.com/news/local/east-central... -
closing

27 roman catholic churches closed and other merged in SE Indiana.

1)...1965 in america 180,000 nuns.......today 57,000
2)...1965 48,000 catholic priests in america....today less than 38,000

When the holiest men/women in the catholic church are not answering the call to the priest or sisterhood thats like the canary in the coal mine.

.....something is wrong.

9 dioceses in america filed bankruptcy and not any of the other 186 dicoeses lend a financial hand to help them. "your on your own boys"!

UNBELIEVABLE!
Michael

Canada

#484526 Oct 24, 2013
StarC wrote:
500 Years of the Protestant Reformation
"October 21, 2013.( Romereports.com ) The year 2017 will mark 500 years since the start of the Protestant Reformation. The International Lutheran-Roman Catholic Commission on Unity, met with the Pope to strengthen their relationship by the time that key anniversary comes.
During their meeting, Pope Francis highlighted that the collaboration between Lutherans and Catholics has grown substantially in recent decades.
POPE FRANCIS
ďI feel a profound sense of gratitude towards Jesus Christ, for the many steps that have been taken to improve the relationship between Lutherans and Catholics in recent decades. Not only through theological dialogue but also by means of brotherly collaboration in many pastoral fields and, above all, in our commitment to advance in spiritual ecumenism.Ē
The Pope explained that Catholics and Lutherans can ask for mutual forgiveness for the harm that they have inflicted on one another. He added that more challenges surely lie ahead, but still he said, there's no need to panic.
At the end of their meeting, the General Secretary for the Lutheran World Federation gave the Pope a symbolic gift, to mark the recent incident in Lampedusa, where hundreds of African immigrants drowned.
JORGE MURGEN
ďI give you this simple teapot from a refugee. Her name is Fatima. She's from Somalia. She fled a refugee camp in Kenya, Dadaab. It's currently the largest refugee camp in the world, with over 400,000 refugees.Ē
POPE FRANCIS
ďWe're attacked by those who don't accept us, regardless of whether a person is Lutheran, Catholic, Orthodox or Coptic. Our blood is not divided.Ē
The Pope was very moved as he received the gift. He added that it gives a new dimension to ecumenism, which he described as an ecumenism of martyrdom."
The greatest country in the world the USA.

1) 2,000 years 67 million catholics in the USA
2) 500 years 155 million protestants in the USA

Almost 3 protestants for every catholic today in america.

50 million non believers (most former catholics/protestants) in america and growing quickly.

.....I bring the news thats important to all.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#484527 Oct 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
THE CONJECTURE OF CONSTANTIN-ISM IS NOT IN THE WORD OF GOD...
If you "truly knew" the WORD OF GOD you wouldn't be making "ridiculous statements such as this!!! The TRUTH of the TRUE WORD OF GOD comes to us from Jesus Christ HIMSELF and the Apostles over 2000 years ago and not from Martin Luther and the other 42,000 bible only "personal" (editoriaiists) such as you Confrinting! The TRUE WORD OF GOD comes DIRECTLY from Jesus and HIS Apostles through both the "written and the oral tradition" 2 Thess 2:15 which has been entrusted to HIS authoritative and visible Church, that Jesus builds upon the rock of Peter Matt 16:13-21. The ineffable wisdom of the TRUE WORD OF GOD is made known (in and through) HIS Church. If you are going to listen to Paul then you should obey his commands to follow the "oral teachings" of the Church as well,(again) 2 Thess 2:15. Paul verifies this in I Timothy 3:15 when he calls THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH. This is the "same Church" that gave you "fundies" the bible over 1700 years ago by the Early Church Fathers in 397AD. The Canon of Scripture was determined by the Catholic Church...... You claim to follow the "bible alone" word for word, sentence for sentence, chapter for chapter, book for book,---YET----when it comes to obeying what Jesus Christ, or Paul says in the bible, you "fundies" just continue to "pick-n-chose" your cafeteria style bible verses, pyramiding a hodge-podge of "whatever verses" (fits into your anti-catholic agenda). It is obvious to ANYONE who reads the "rif-raf" that you write, that your ministry is nothing more than a world of "private judgement" Christianity where your "personal opinions" (along with the rest of your other 42,000 contradicting bible only Protestants) are the "final authority"!!!!!!
Michael

Canada

#484528 Oct 24, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Lovely report..really..
We ARE all in the same boat as regards to those who hate Christianity ..
Nobody hates christianity, they just hate indoctrinated from childhood christians telling all others in the world that "THEY ARE RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS NOT"

Do you really believe Gods intent was to divide mankind into groups of religious beliefs MOSTLY because by chance you were born into your particular belief? If by chance you were born Muslim instead of christian you would be telling us how great ALLAH is, and that is the truth

After 2,000 years catholicism makes up about 17% of the world population, and out of them far less than half actually practice their faith as required.

Not very good results after 20 centuries. Not at all!

Michael

Canada

#484529 Oct 24, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
If you "truly knew" the WORD OF GOD you wouldn't be making "ridiculous statements such as this!!! The TRUTH of the TRUE WORD OF GOD comes to us from Jesus Christ HIMSELF and the Apostles over 2000 years ago and not from Martin Luther and the other 42,000 bible only "personal" (editoriaiists) such as you Confrinting! The TRUE WORD OF GOD comes DIRECTLY from Jesus and HIS Apostles through both the "written and the oral tradition" 2 Thess 2:15 which has been entrusted to HIS authoritative and visible Church, that Jesus builds upon the rock of Peter Matt 16:13-21. The ineffable wisdom of the TRUE WORD OF GOD is made known (in and through) HIS Church. If you are going to listen to Paul then you should obey his commands to follow the "oral teachings" of the Church as well,(again) 2 Thess 2:15. Paul verifies this in I Timothy 3:15 when he calls THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH. This is the "same Church" that gave you "fundies" the bible over 1700 years ago by the Early Church Fathers in 397AD. The Canon of Scripture was determined by the Catholic Church...... You claim to follow the "bible alone" word for word, sentence for sentence, chapter for chapter, book for book,---YET----when it comes to obeying what Jesus Christ, or Paul says in the bible, you "fundies" just continue to "pick-n-chose" your cafeteria style bible verses, pyramiding a hodge-podge of "whatever verses" (fits into your anti-catholic agenda). It is obvious to ANYONE who reads the "rif-raf" that you write, that your ministry is nothing more than a world of "private judgement" Christianity where your "personal opinions" (along with the rest of your other 42,000 contradicting bible only Protestants) are the "final authority"!!!!!!
Do you really believe your parish priest would endorse the comments you make on this forum towards others?

I am surprised "others" would even accept charity from you, based on your hatred, name calling, and insults you throw around.

OMG!
Liam

Elizabeth, NJ

#484530 Oct 24, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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That would be Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Peter Popoff, Melissa Scott, Arnold Murray, Prestonites, Campbellites, Benny Hinnites, Confrintites, Rozezites, Ted Haggardites, Padites, Margites, LTMites, guessites,TRUTHites, Mikeites etc.
Yeah Christ established his church. He gave the Keys to Peter. He said I name you Peter (Rock) and upon this Rock I will build my church. Peter is the rock and Jesus prayed that he would strengthen the others. Notice how when Jesus reinstated him after his denial. He called him Simon to his fallen name. 3x he asks him do you love me and even more then these which were the other Apostles who were right there. 3x was Holy Tradition when instituting an office. The King had 12 servants but only 1 was given the keys until the king returns. The keys werent the bible not put together yet of the books they choose to accept with their own interpretation. The Lord said he would send them a helper, The Holy Spirit. Muslims say it was Mohmmad. In Acts Peter boldly leads them out and in the temple he recalls the words of Jesus. When they bring you before the synagogues the holy sprit will tell you what to say. You may have heard the chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Well God often chose the most unlikely to raise them up to do his will to greater show his Glory. So those today who demean Peter and act like they are better demean the Lord and his choice as they do with Mary. His confession if you will was revealed from the Lord, but the Lord did not say he would build his church upon himself or the revelation that was given to Peter. He gave the Keys to Peter and all the Apostles would have authority to bind and loose, but not to the exclusion of the Key Holder as it was in Israel and the Church is the New Israel. According to Truth the church is any group of false teachers called out who say they follow scripture. Every heresy used scripture to seperate themselves from the church. Wherever 2 or 3 heretics/false teachers are gathered apart from the church. No Jesus is not there. He picked the Apostles They chose others and said to remember what you have learned and from whom you have learned it. Paul instructs Timothy much later not to ordain just anyone. In Protestant world that means a mail order preacher degree. Protestants follow charismatic men and interpretations that fit with their world view of individual truths. Self As Hojo pointed out Paul in Ephesians says that Through The Church the truth would be revealed. The pillar of the truth. Peter warns the unlearned wrest scripture unto their destruction, but all Protestants have made themselves authorities saying they know the truth. The bible has something to say about teachers as well ignored by most protestants. Paul was sent to Ananias a member of the church to be ordained and Baptized. So we see clearly there was a hierarchy. Their were approved men who were chosen. They were given authority and their was always monarchal Bishops never just a body of loose believers each doing there own thing. Correction was given this is what most of the letters about. Have a good day.
You forgot O.J Simpson. I heard on the radio he's been studying the Bible and plans on being an ordained Minister when he gets out.(honestly)
Sign him up, Confrint!

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