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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 687223 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#483499 Oct 19, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Consider the possibility that we Catholics see our seperated protestant brethren as you describe above...that is what the Church has been saying for a long time.
I am not Separated in any way shape or form. I was Saved 8/25/82, Sanctified on 8/27/82, Baptized on 5/28/83, Called to Preach March 1984, Preached my First Message on Easter Sunday night, 1984.

I lack nothing when it comes to Christianity, your rituals mean nothing to me or to Christianity. it is what is in the Heart that will separate us from each other and/or God.

so unless YOU are Born Again, the Separation is from God. friendship with me will avail you nothing.

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#483501 Oct 19, 2013
Liam wrote:
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But Marge didn't think she was 'attacking them' as you say. I believe she thought she was doing her duty as a Christian to get them saved.
Its good that you sent emails to encourage people to pray for them. I'm guessing you still think we Catholics are damned to Hell, since we weren't invited to join the prayer group. But that's ok, Preston. I sincerely pray for everyone on this forum all the time. It doesn't matter to me if you think my prayers are no good.
sorry, but you just aren't in our "separated" clique, take it up with your pope.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#483502 Oct 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Regina"<quot ed text>
Bless your heart. That's not what I meant, but I suspect you know that.
Yes, there used to be many excellent Catholic posters on these boards. They really knew their faith and weren't afraid to defend Christ and His church. There's a reason why most of them left. Look around the whole Catholic forum, not just this thread. Not one of them is left except for the few hangers-on here. It goes back to what Fr. Dye last said. He recognized it; it's hard not to. And then it got worse.
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How/where is Fr. Dye? His posts were reasonable. He explained himself without much 'fuss'.
It is sad that there is so much conflict between us who name the name of Jesus as our Savior. The world is becoming a more unfriendly place for Christians. I've a feeling that we are going to need each other very much in the near future.
KayMarie
I agree ..

Those,who hate Christ make no distinction in who they hate

“Happy 2016!!”

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Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#483503 Oct 19, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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The CHURCH of that time did compile it ..Weren't those Churches now called Orthodox a part of it??
That wasn't the point ...
Let's face it a lot if folks did not read ..did the Church bring people to Chrit ..of course .....but your original premises about bible believing Christians being more recent ..You just sneered your own question ..
Your Church ..in.my opinion ..o all caught up with he Secular.
THEre was a New World about to be settled ..You think God did not know this...And want His,Word spread in the way it was ...
THERR was a wide nation to be settled ..folks read the bible tourist children before they built any Churches .
I'm convinced GOD KNOWS ALL AND PROVIDED FOR THIS...in light of EHAT was going on at the time in Europe ..You bet .
The CHURCH of Jesus was never to be he CHURCH of Caesar ...And kinky thrones ..And kissing rings by monarchs ...
God used men ..we had a,Reformation...bibles were loosed ; no the world ..the settlers brought the faith o he New World ..non Catholic as well as Catholic ...
Secular??? Ha, Ha, Ha. it’s the first Church called Catholic that kept JESUS alive by professing HIS Word. You would not know about JESUS if the Catholics didn’t bring Him and Holy Scripture to you.

No…there was no Bible to be read, Rose. Know what was going on in Europe, King Henrey VII became a protestant, he wanted divorce and to remarry so he started his own Church. And wouldn’t you know it that church is now joining JESUS true Church. Thanks be to God!!!

You’ve got that right it was NEVER the church of Caesar…. It was the Church of Jesus Christ.….
We were being persecuted by the pagans… we were being persecuted by the protestants.
“The Church has suffered many kinds of persecution. The growth and the continued existence of Christianity have been hindered by cultured paganism and by savage heathenism. And in more recent times agnosticism has harassed the Church in the various states of America and Europe. But most deplorable of all persecutions have been those that Catholicism has suffered from other Christians. With regard to these it has to be considered that the Church herself has appealed to force, and that, not only in her own defense, but also, so it is objected, in unprovoked attack. Thus by means of the Inquisition or religious wars she was herself the aggressor in many instances during the Middle Ages and in the time of the Reformation. And even if the answer be urged that she was only defending her own existence, the retort seems fairly plausible that pagan and heathen powers were only acting in their own defense

when they prohibited the spread of Christianity.
The Church would therefore seem to be strangely inconsistent, for while she claims toleration and liberty for herself she has been and still remains intolerant of all other religions.” from New Advent . org

continue for Rose

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Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#483504 Oct 19, 2013
@ Rose more for you.....

Martin Luther was a heretic with his own ideas, pretty much like the protestant here.
You might want to read this……………
“As we approach the five hundred year anniversary of the Protestant reformulation on October 31, 2017, I am looking back to examine how that all worked for them. I am examining true fruit of the Tree of Protest, so to speak. In the last installment I went back and started from the beginning by examining The 38 Most Ridiculous Things that Martin Luther, the illustrious Father of Protestantism and the Bible-Only (sola-scriptura) movement, said. For this installment I’m jumping forward five centuries later to put on display the crowning fruit of the ‘so-called’ reformer’s rejection of the Sacrifice of the Mass, rejection of the complete Bible, rejection of sacred Tradition, rejection the Apostolic doctrine, rejection of the authority of the Catholic Church, rejection of the communion of Saints, and rejection of Mary. Altogether, their rejection of the only Church that Christ Jesus Himself established through His Apostles is summed up in image of the billboard below of a new Protestant Church located in downtown Warren, Ohio.”
Read more at: http://www.davidlgray.info/blog/2013/10/500-y... | DavidLGray.INFO
Be sure to read some of ML’s quotes
http://www.davidlgray.info/blog/2013/09/500-y...

ML ruined it for you proterstants that is why there is spin off after spin off after spin off… to the point where there is 42K churches, and none can agree.
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#483505 Oct 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Regina"<quot ed text>
Bless your heart. That's not what I meant, but I suspect you know that.
Yes, there used to be many excellent Catholic posters on these boards. They really knew their faith and weren't afraid to defend Christ and His church. There's a reason why most of them left. Look around the whole Catholic forum, not just this thread. Not one of them is left except for the few hangers-on here. It goes back to what Fr. Dye last said. He recognized it; it's hard not to. And then it got worse.
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How/where is Fr. Dye? His posts were reasonable. He explained himself without much 'fuss'.
It is sad that there is so much conflict between us who name the name of Jesus as our Savior. The world is becoming a more unfriendly place for Christians. I've a feeling that we are going to need each other very much in the near future.
KayMarie
I agree, Kay. You and I briefly touched on this in the past. I used to doubt that it would be in our lifetime, but I'm doubting less and less these days.

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#483506 Oct 19, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>as I said a few hours ago, john an orthodox said we who are Born Again will not go to Heaven since there is no Salvation outside his church. Nick has never said that to me or anyone else. Nor have I said that to me. RoS claimed them as Brother and Sister in Christ, I agree.
so the damnation is coming from your side not me. tho I make it clear that ANY person who is not Born Again will not enter Heaven. jesus said that, I believe that, and that settles it.
if you take away the name of Orthodox with Nick, doesn't take away his love for the Lord, take away the name of Nazarene for me and yet it doesn't take away my Love for the Lord.` others can speak for themselves.
but I don't remember you ever saying that YOU love the Lord, only Him, and your church membership doesn't matter.
Church membership will never get ONE person into heaven, don't believe it, wait and see. when your time comes, Only your Love for the Lord and the Blood shed on Calvary will give you or anyone else Membership.
a few hours ago, HOJO spoke about the billion or so catholics in your church. BIG DEAL!!!! God doesn't care about numbers, he cares about the Person, and the Bible is clear that few walk the way of Holiness. So I hope that you make Heaven your home, But there is only One Way.
You Love that piece of grain, but it has no Saving Grace, to bad that you don't relish the Blood as much.
Christ is the Alpha and the Omega. I believe that a person can be Born Again outside any Church.You can find sites with my Church holding various opinions on this from yes to no to I dont know. believe fully in the Born Again experience.It makes me no less Orthodox.

“Happy 2016!!”

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Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#483507 Oct 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="StarC"
Don't like it do you. Its your founder Gif/KM... this is who you follow.
Jesus founded our Church, live with it.
Know what get old? YOU.
You attack and I will defend, your style.
You wrote.
"is she your husband first wife"
LOL, too funny is that all you have?
One husband, One wife per lifetime, right. Obviously the founder of your church didn't follow Scripture!
Did you forget you told us you are 'penticostal'?
Be nice and I'll be nice, otherwise expect the same.
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Aimee McPherson DID NOT establish the church to which I belong, and God won't judge me for whatever Aimee did. Aimee is dead, but the headlines at the top of this page list lots of live Catholics who are anything but godly.
Suppose neither of us judges the other by long dead strangers...or let's just not judge ANYBODY, as that job belongs to God.
KayMarie
Then who did find your church? You said you were pentecostal.

Regarding judging, sounds good to me. But first be sure you tell you husband not to judge either. Tell Gif to stop posting like this [see below] also. He is the most arrogant bigot on these threads.
And he may not know this….. The majority of the lawmakers are protestant. Maybe you all can pick up the tab.
confrinting with the word wrote:
SO ABAMA CARE HAS PASSED
THANKS TO THE ROMAN CATHOLICS THAT CONTROL THE
SUPREME COURT
THE HOUSE
AND THE SENATE
Hmmmmm
I wonder if the catholic charities can afford pick up the tab..
and support those that these have put out of a Job
as they have for the Sodomizes...
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#483508 Oct 19, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>as I said a few hours ago, john an orthodox said we who are Born Again will not go to Heaven since there is no Salvation outside his church.
Actually, no, that is not what he said. He said he knew of no salvation outside the church, and that God will save whom God will save. He never condemned anyone to hell. In good conscience, I can't let you continue to malign him since he's not here to defend himself. Now let the man rest in peace.

“Happy 2016!!”

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Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#483509 Oct 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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How does "scripture" teach you to pray..."Our father, who are in heaven, Hallowed be thy name...thy kingdom come...thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven... Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us....Lead us not into temptation...for thine is the power and the glory forever."
That is what Jesus said is the only prayer that is of any importance.
Do you know why?
BTW there is NO Mary mentioned...do you know why?
I will tell you about the "Mary" part...Thou shall hold no others before me...simple as that...
Now figure the other out for yourself, lest I should have to embarrass you even more.
Actually you are embarrassing yourself!

He never said to pray on a public forum either and people do it all the time .[lol]

Mt 6:6
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Blessed Mother Mary’s part…. was a very important part in Christianity, Blessed Mother brought JESUS to US to save us.

"Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you" (Lk 1:28)
"Blessed are you among women,
and blessed is the fruit of your womb"
(Lk 1:42).

LK 1:43 43 Elizabeth said….
“And how does this happen to me, that the Mother of my LORD should come to me?

THE ANGELUS
The Angel of the Lord declared to Mary:
And she conceived of the Holy Spirit. Lk 1:19,Mt 1, Lk 1:35

Behold the handmaid of the Lord: Be it done unto me according to Thy WORD.
LK 1:38
And the Word was made Flesh: And dwelt among us. John 1:14

Mary is honored, NOT worshiped as we worship JESUS only!!!!!

“Happy 2016!!”

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Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#483510 Oct 19, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text>Earlier in a post U mentioned that Jesus never turns away a petition of his mother. Can U please point out in scripture where I may find this where Jesus was said to have mentioned it? I would like to learn more about it so if U don't mind....
[not directed at me, just my two cents]

When JESUS WAS asked by his Blessed Mother… he turned water into wine, at the wedding in Cana. Blessed Mother said “ Do whatever HE tells you”

“GOD SO LOVED US”

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He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#483511 Oct 19, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
Secular??? Ha, Ha, Ha. it’s the first Church called Catholic that kept JESUS alive by professing HIS Word. You would not know about JESUS if the Catholics didn’t bring Him and Holy Scripture to you.
No…there was no Bible to be read, Rose. Know what was going on in Europe, King Henrey VII became a protestant, he wanted divorce and to remarry so he started his own Church. And wouldn’t you know it that church is now joining JESUS true Church. Thanks be to God!!!
You’ve got that right it was NEVER the church of Caesar…. It was the Church of Jesus Christ.….
We were being persecuted by the pagans… we were being persecuted by the protestants.
“The Church has suffered many kinds of persecution. The growth and the continued existence of Christianity have been hindered by cultured paganism and by savage heathenism. And in more recent times agnosticism has harassed the Church in the various states of America and Europe. But most deplorable of all persecutions have been those that Catholicism has suffered from other Christians. With regard to these it has to be considered that the Church herself has appealed to force, and that, not only in her own defense, but also, so it is objected, in unprovoked attack. Thus by means of the Inquisition or religious wars she was herself the aggressor in many instances during the Middle Ages and in the time of the Reformation. And even if the answer be urged that she was only defending her own existence, the retort seems fairly plausible that pagan and heathen powers were only acting in their own defense
when they prohibited the spread of Christianity.
The Church would therefore seem to be strangely inconsistent, for while she claims toleration and liberty for herself she has been and still remains intolerant of all other religions.” from New Advent . org
continue for Rose
Who were he Jews persecuting?
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#483512 Oct 19, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
[not directed at me, just my two cents]
When JESUS WAS asked by his Blessed Mother… he turned water into wine, at the wedding in Cana. Blessed Mother said “ Do whatever HE tells you”
Hi, Star! Here is also a type in the OT (there are others, but I love this one):

1 Kings 2:19-25

19 So Bathsheba went to King Solomon, to speak to him on behalf of Adonijah. The king rose to meet her, and bowed down to her; then he sat on his throne, and had a throne brought for the king’s mother, and she sat on his right. 20 Then she said,“I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her,“Make your request, my mother; for I will not refuse you.”

“Happy 2016!!”

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Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#483513 Oct 19, 2013
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text>Earlier in a post U mentioned that Jesus never turns away a petition of his mother. Can U please point out in scripture where I may find this where Jesus was said to have mentioned it? I would like to learn more about it so if U don't mind....
OOps, forgot the verse John 2:5-7

“Happy 2016!!”

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Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#483516 Oct 19, 2013
Dinner time, have a Blessed Sunday.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#483518 Oct 19, 2013
StarC wrote:
@ Rose more for you.....
Martin Luther was a heretic with his own ideas, pretty much like the protestant here.
You might want to read this……………
“As we approach the five hundred year anniversary of the Protestant reformulation on October 31, 2017, I am looking back to examine how that all worked for them. I am examining true fruit of the Tree of Protest, so to speak. In the last installment I went back and started from the beginning by examining The 38 Most Ridiculous Things that Martin Luther, the illustrious Father of Protestantism and the Bible-Only (sola-scriptura) movement, said. For this installment I’m jumping forward five centuries later to put on display the crowning fruit of the ‘so-called’ reformer’s rejection of the Sacrifice of the Mass, rejection of the complete Bible, rejection of sacred Tradition, rejection the Apostolic doctrine, rejection of the authority of the Catholic Church, rejection of the communion of Saints, and rejection of Mary. Altogether, their rejection of the only Church that Christ Jesus Himself established through His Apostles is summed up in image of the billboard below of a new Protestant Church located in downtown Warren, Ohio.”
Read more at: http://www.davidlgray.info/blog/2013/10/500-y... | DavidLGray.INFO
Be sure to read some of ML’s quotes
http://www.davidlgray.info/blog/2013/09/500-y...
ML ruined it for you proterstants that is why there is spin off after spin off after spin off… to the point where there is 42K churches, and none can agree.
I have said before,what I believe Star MANY TIMES,.

I know,Henry broke away ..he kings,and Princes were under the ruling of the RCC..secular monarchies blessed by Rome ...Rheingold not even stop
Innocent folks from being killed over bible's and for.their JEWISH FAITH...the idea that it was okay to persecute them sayin they killed Jesus was most popular ...clergy and monarchs took their property and lives for not professing Jesus as Messiah .

Rome totally disenfranchised HENRY for His personal sin

But not those killing Jews . The SONS OF ABRAHAM ....

In reflection ..it's no wonder the CHURCH had o lose its,secular power ..God's,Covenant to Abraham..which was sadly forgotten...
Who did THEY persecute in your war of self defense .

Your Church today ...is,much closer to being Spiritual Leader than it was in the middle ages ...IMO

Anyway we all live Jesus ...That should be what counts ..And the so called Protestants had much to do withH the FAITH..spread throuhSmerics

And while your Church has,done much conversion .

You cannot take away from the souls,brought to Jesus,since the REFORMATION...it's,a fact...

THE TRUTH IN GODS,WORD WAS,SPREAD FAR WIDER and more purely in every
Campfire ..log cabin ..home ....we're the bible was read and taught to the next generation .

I have said over and over that God used us,different times ..different ways,..to spread the truth of what JESUS, told

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#483520 Oct 19, 2013
AND IN LIGGHT OF THE FACT WE ALL LOVE OUR LORD ...

FATHER GOD

ABBA

I thank you for your hearing me this,day .

We here love you .

We pray for Peace among us and a conclusion To our misunderstanding and conflict .

We pray for healing for any here who need it.. Our LOVED ones in need...also .

We know you hear us if we come In humility and supplication.

We,pray for our country and for peace .

Mostly we,pray we and our LOVED Ones may KNOW YOUR PRECIOUS SON JESUS AS SAVIOUR AND LORD .

WE,KNOW your Spirit can reach Even the most hardened heart.

We,ask in Jesus name

AMEN

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#483524 Oct 19, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Christ is the Alpha and the Omega. I believe that a person can be Born Again outside any Church.You can find sites with my Church holding various opinions on this from yes to no to I dont know. believe fully in the Born Again experience.It makes me no less Orthodox.
Amen on that..I believe the Holy Spirit calls us,WHERE WE ARE ...HOWEVER HE CHOOSES ..BY ANY EXTERNAL OR SPIRITUAL METHOD HE
CHOOSES ..
INSIDE OR OUTSUDE ANY CHURCH PROPER ...to truly know believe in Jesus,Christ as our Saviour.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#483525 Oct 19, 2013
who="Oxbow" <quoted text>
I could take the time to look up your absurdity, but as I recall you say that the church was the bride of Christ...that makes one...
The Bible teaches His bride is the New Jerusalem...that makes two..
bride:a woman who has just been or is about to be married
Two brides...one groom equals bigamy....

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I'm sure glad that you explained your thoughts on that!

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, EVEN AS CHRIST IS HEAD OF THE CHURCH: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, EVEN AS CHRIST ALSO LOVED THE CHURCH, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loves his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourishes and cherishes it, EVEN AS THE LORD THE CHURCH:
Eph 5:30 For WE ARE MEMBERS OF HIS BODY, OF HIS FLESH AND OF HIS BONES.(GEN. 2:23)
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is A GREAT MYSTERY: but I speak concerning CHRIST AND THE CHURCH.

Rev 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
Rev 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reignes.
Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to him: for THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB IS COME, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: FOR THE FINE LINEN IS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE SAINTS (CHURCH).
Rev 19:9 And he said unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he said unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Rev 21:2 And I John saw THE HOLY CITY, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared AS BRIDE adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

The Church IS the New Jerusalem, the Bride of Christ. A great mystery, yes. What? Don't you know that YOU are the temple of the Holy Ghost? There is ONE Bride.

We will understand it better by and by...

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#483526 Oct 19, 2013
who="Tango Bravo"<quoted text>

Thanks for responding. I believe I understand your answer, but I'm not clear on a few things.
Is it enough that writings additional to the Bible agree completely with what is found in the Bible, or is it only necessary that they not disagree with what is found in the Bible?
With whom does Sola Scriptura originate? Is it Biblical or is it a teaching of men?
What is the meaning of "confrinting"?
Thanks.

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They should not disagree with what is found in the Bible. That covers the whole question.

Not sure about the origin of Sola Scripture, but the Bible is very specific in all things that there must be two witnesses to any event. It speaks of scripture in the same manner; one prophet likened it to each bird having its own mate. One could not establish a thing in court unless they had two witnesses.

I cannot think of anything that is not covered in the Bible. When Jesus was tempted by the devil, He replied simply, "It is written."

My husband started out with 'Confronting with the Word'. One day he had a typo (i) and it became 'confrinting', so he just left it that way.

KayMarie

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