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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 692019 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#481374 Oct 10, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
A strongly suggested read.
MYTH 1: THE INQUISITION WAS REPRESSIVE
MYTH 2: THE INQUISITION WAS INTOLERANT
MYTH 3: THE PROCEDURE WAS BARBARIC AND INHUMANE
MYTH 4: IT WAS THE SPANISH INQUISITION THAT WAS EXCESSIVE
MYTH 5: MAN IS FREE WHEN RELIGION IS NOT PUBLIC
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologeti...
There had to have been Catholic Bishops who knowingly allowed murder and torture in there respective diocese at one time or another... In no way does anybody except for fundies, believe it was a systematic operation headed by Rome. That was my argument. Even during the sacking of Constantinople, there were Catholic Bishops and Priests amongst the ranks of the crusaders- albeit they were all excommunicated at the time. But later reinstated. Same thing with the sex abuse cover-up. Yes, this is enormously blown up by fundies, but there is absolutely no doubt that a Bishop or two allowed a pedophile priest to continue in his ministry. Its a shame the media and fanatics try and paint this as a system wide cover up headed by the Pope. And I also don't believe it was a malicious attempt by the Bishops to hide it, but rather a lack of understanding on the subject as well as a belief in redemption of the sinner- no matter how vile the sin.
The whole point of my argument is that these things do NOT reflect the truth in Catholicism as a whole, and all the guilty are in violation of Church teaching. The Church is still guided to truth by Christ.
Thank you for your link and I'll definitely read anything I can. I had this conversation with Fr Ubel of the Cathedral at a theology on tap function. That's what I'm mostly basing my argument on. I know a Priest isn't automatically an expert on medieval Church practices either, so I welcome any other info.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#481375 Oct 10, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>*Never forgot* rosesez quote, what she meant,*never learned*. Rose tell the truth, lying is a sin.
it seems to me that you focus to much on roses post and not enough time on your own sins.
Michael

Canada

#481376 Oct 10, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask the bible only "fundies" on this forum, because (each one of them) have "appointed themselves" the final judge as to 1).who is a Christian and who is not, 2) who is going to heaven and who is not, 3) who has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and who does not, 4) who is saved and who is not!!!(thus relieving God of HIS responsiblity)
Maybe you have committed sins over your life that you thought were not sins and maybe you will not be saved......no matter how many times you go to church or pray to God. A sin is a sin.

I would believe chastizing others the way you do is a sin. How many times have you done that on this forum? Many!



Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#481377 Oct 10, 2013
marge wrote:
Out of all the 'churches' represented on this thread, Gif and Kay Maries hands done is the only one I would attend, yet I would not let them water baptize me for a good reason, they lied about me that I said it's ok to sin.
oh such pride....come to an orthodox service and we will will show you how we worship idols. Bring your drums lol

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#481378 Oct 10, 2013
to you Roman Catholics...

I will post his again, because it was evidently ignored

THE WORDS OF PETER (your little god )AT THE HEALING OF THE GATE CALLED BEAUTIFUL.

HERE PETER DISCLAIMS ANY POWER OF THE PEDESTAL

THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS ASSUMED ON.

HE ATTRIBUTES THE POWER OF THE MIRACLE TO JESUS...

Read it and see that Peter did not claim any special

appointment from God..

Act 3:12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel,

why marvel ye at this? or

--> why look ye so earnestly on us,

AS THOUGH BY OUR OWN POWER OR HOLINESS WE HAVE MADE THIS MAN WALK ?<--

Act 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

Act 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

Act 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

NOTE HERE ..==>THE NAME OF JESUS

Act 3:16 ==> And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong,<==

whom ye see and know: yea,

the faith which is by him/JESUS hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

Act 3:17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.

Act 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

THE WAY OF SALVATION --->

Act 3:19 ---> Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: <---

Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Act 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

NOTE HERE ===>

Act 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that

--->every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

Act 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

~~~~~~~~~`
QUESTION
WHY DO YOU ROMAN CATHOLICS

look ye so earnestly on us,(PETER)

as though by our(HIS) own power or holiness HE had

made this man to walk?<--(MIRACLES ARE PERFORMED.)

TODAY ALL MIRACLES SHOULD STILL PERFORMED IN THE NAME OF JESUS..

AND WHEN THAT HAPPEN ..NO ONE BUT GOD SHOULD RECEIVE THE GLORY...

GOD WILL PERFORM HIS WORD EVEN IF IT IS SPOKEN FORTH THROUGH AN ASS..
truth

Forrestdale, Australia

#481379 Oct 10, 2013
white lodge
6 years old photo
g5 took you there and queen mary

look that photo

did you atack me that day
22 2 2005
3.5 months under constant attack

every door you liked close and judge me on most evil wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

m

n

why he bring there
who is king george v
you make me very angry nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

how i become there

6 years old

nadbiskup cule
who is mother mary
are you now from pag
or you are who
as what
puhovski
o did you

i will recognize you alllll
evilllllllll
huhhhhhhhhhh
and you dr visko
whoooooooooooooooooo

you make me sickkkkkkkkk

you did not know

you try destroy me don't you

ahhhhhh
i remember my good mother in that nice dress as color cholite
yep

mum i call my mother
where are you going mum
my mother that times look nice
did she been my mother looks nice as it is
yes she is
why she run away so fast
ohhhh
i remember what she say
maybe i will go with your dady
whereeeeeeeee
how she can do
my mother goo where in germany with dady
noooooooooooooooo

i remember what grandmother say
no no no
stay home with your kids this is your country
she bag my father that time
my mother look as queen that time
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i find her after my mother cry lots of time
ohhhhhhhhhh
how i can forhgive you
youuuuuuu how you can do that make us unhappyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
my tears go now
Michael

Canada

#481381 Oct 10, 2013
Pope Francis excommunicates a roman catholic priest for speaking in support of women priests.

Contradicts what Pope Francis has been promoting the past couple months. He stated the church spends too much time discussing contraceptives, women priests and celebacy.........and the pope himself said "WHO AM I TO JUDGE"

HYPOCRICY!........again!

A church in crisis with catholics running in all different directions.

truth

Forrestdale, Australia

#481382 Oct 10, 2013
who stolen my life and my future
how i become youuuuuuu
nooooooooooooo
you judge me
on most horiblle way
no i am not listen at all
wicket people what i most don't liked in my life

yes i believe in god
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
you killing meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i liked run from my lifeeeeeeeeee
what you done to my motherrrrrrrrrrrrrr
that timeeeeeeeeee
most wicket evil people
i don't liked them not at alllllllllll

horiblle life from that 6 years after year one then year two

horible 345 when i become six year in clasroom i remember my grandmother save me in another school
why school burn that year when i start go there
horible under church of mother mary

ohhhhhhhhhhh
what they done
i don't liked wicket horible people

most worst my life
i even don't remember that years nut i know i been modern then night mare every day
whoooooooooo

8 9 and 10 years age most worst night mare
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyy

what they done to my mother
they hurt me there tooooooo
i see she cry many times
my tears go now
my mother
ohhhhhhhhh i can't forget thatttttttttttttttt

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#481383 Oct 10, 2013
Subscribe to Denison Forum Cultural Commentary
Is Jesus better than religion?

Jefferson Bethke played baseball in college, got a degree in politics and government, and taught high school social studies in the Seattle area. On January 20, 2012, he released a YouTube video titled, "Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus." Within three days it had received six million views. It has now been seen more than 25 million times.

Jonathan Merritt, one of my favorite faith and culture writers, recently talked with Bethke about his new book, "Jesus > Religion: Why He is So Much Better Than Trying Harder, Doing More, and Being Good Enough." In the interview Bethke affirms discipline, church attendance, rhythms and routine. However, he worries about "people that use [religion] to describe moral behaviors that place you in right standing with God."

He just described the way faith worked for me, for many years. When I was in high school, my week usually included Sunday school and worship, Sunday evening worship, Tuesday night visitation, Wednesday night prayer meeting, and Saturday morning youth Bible study. I was also taught to begin every day with a "quiet time" with God.

What no one said but I somehow inferred was that all this religiosity put me in greater favor with God. The more I did, the more he was pleased with me, or so I thought.

Such transactional religion goes back to the ancient Greeks: place a sacrifice on the altar so the gods will bless your crops. The more you do for them, the more they'll do for you. Bethke is right: such religion results in "making yourself the center of the story rather than Jesus."

And it often sparks a superior spirit that demonizes those who disagree: "Religious people see certain people as their enemies, when Jesus-followers see sin as the enemy. Religious people see 'them' as the problem; Jesus-followers see 'us' as the problem."

Jesus came not to establish another transactional religion but to birth a movement centering in transformational relationship. Here's where it begins: "Abide in me, and I in you" (John 15:4). Worship, pray and study Scripture—not so Jesus will love you but because he already does. Spiritual disciplines do not earn his blessing—they position us to receive his grace and be transformed by his Spirit.

With this result: "whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit" (v. 5). In a culture where 77 percent say religion is losing its influence on American life, it is urgent that more people see more of Jesus and his relevance, in us and through us.

Would Jesus say you are abiding in him right now? Do you have a religion based on him or a relationship with him? Changed people change the world.

KayMarie
truth

Forrestdale, Australia

#481384 Oct 10, 2013
my oldest brother too
much more worse
my mother told me about that nightmare..
i find him 2x times
horibleeeeeeeeeeeeeee
its lead that day save him from that gus..why i run so fast that they
i refuse to my sisters not to listen..yeeeeee

then i find youngest
ohhhhhhhhhhhh
much more worst
my brother
i save you that time couple time more
my tears go now
evil peopleeeeeeeeeeee
i don't liked them noooooooooooooooooooooo
no no noooooooooooo

this evil on power are evil
Are they are real
noooooooooo

n

they hurt me evil people
after all who they areeeeeeeeee
truth

Forrestdale, Australia

#481386 Oct 10, 2013
Are you for sure king gerge not give signature that you can be free in your jamerica
shut up
will youuuuuuuuu

this people don't know
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

now you going back 4000 years
did you call others jesus
many will come in my name
its not me

are you for sure N not stay on your hand

you make me upset

n
i don't liked do nothing
you are all evil
horible evil
you bealive in nothingggggggggggggggg

n

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#481387 Oct 10, 2013

YOU ROMAN CATHOLICS HAVE denied the Holy One and the Just, and

HAVE desired a CORRUPTIBLE MAN NAMED PETER to be granted unto you;

YOU HAVE DENIED the Prince of life, GOD'S ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... whom God hath raised from the dead;

AND GLORIFIED A PLACEBO...

YOU WORSHIP THE STAGE PROPS AND THE SUPPORTING ACTORS IN THE DRAMA...

THE HEAVENLY FATHER SAID..TO PETER ON THE MOUNT OF TRANSFIGURATION

Mat 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

NOTE
Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said,

-->This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. <--

QUESTION

WHY DO YOU ROMAN CATHOLICS...

DO AS PETER DID HERE... AND PLACE THE SUPPORTING

ACTORS ON THE SAME LEVEL (EQUAL WITH)

JESUS CHRIST ...THE SON OF GOD...

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE FOLLOWERS OF PETER..

AS APPOSED TO BEING FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST..

YOU HAVE ATTEMPTED TO ERECT THREE tabernacles; one for

CHRIST, and

one for MARY and

one FOR PETER..

AND HAVE REPLACED THE HEAVENLY FATHER

WITH YOUR HETHEN CHURCH.
truth

Forrestdale, Australia

#481388 Oct 10, 2013
how you can call yourself ja.merica as free
horibleeeeeeeeeeeeee

don't speak with me like that

i don't liked wicket people not at all
horrible people
did they deserve about what
have free life over innocent people..
i go cry more now

i don't liked wicket people

deceivers and possessors
could you imagine that
truth

Forrestdale, Australia

#481389 Oct 10, 2013
4000 years ago whats happen
a nkh who give life to whom

and you say about scroll
there is Moses law or much more

ones when you find out
then you find what secret society do and who kill us as well how many times

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyy

n
Michael

Canada

#481390 Oct 10, 2013
The life of a parish priest.

No heavy lifting, never get your hands dirty, no time clock to punch, never go on strike, never get layed off.

..... Salary, free room/board, dental plan, health care coverage, car allowance/mileage, thousands in baptism/wedding/funeral stipends tax free yearly, a pension plan,,,,,,,,,,and no wife/kids to support its all for them!

The hours are long, a lot of down time, but what a great life.

I can't understand why more american catholic men are not contemplating the priesthood. Security for life, and a ticket to heaven.

Can it get better than that!(lol)
truth

Forrestdale, Australia

#481391 Oct 10, 2013
i am not your priest
nooooooooooooooooooooooo

ja
you liked put me on INRI and chopped in peaces
did you do that

by

n
Michael

Canada

#481392 Oct 10, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>mike, I could CARE LESS WHAT YOU THINK OF ME.
YOU ARE A WASTE OF TIME.
WHAT I SAID, I SAID.
you attack both sides equally.
Isn't Jesus and salvation your goal in life? So why attack another group of christians who have the very same goals you have?

The technicalities you fight over are trivial, if Jesus/salvation are the same virtues you both believe in why continually argue that "you are right and they are not"

Come on cowboy, where is the brotherly love? I don't think Jesus is impressed.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#481393 Oct 10, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know how much longer I can tutor you....its taking up a lot of my time...
Here is the corrected info:
You: some good news, Shannon came home tonight. she has a UTI.Urinary tract infection ,and is being treated with antibiotics
Hermit: Great News!!! Fantastic!!! Stay with her Christ. Thank You
Me: Seems to me the antibiotics are staying with her....am I missing something here???
I don't lie...no need to...
YOU WROTE

I don't know how much longer I can tutor you....its taking up a lot of my time...LOL

"HE THAT TOOTETH NOT HIS OWN HORN.

THE SAME SHALL NOT BE TOOTED

BUT HE THAT TOOTETH HIS OWN HORN

THE SAME SHALL RUN HIS BATTERY DOWN..."

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#481394 Oct 10, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Isn't Jesus and salvation your goal in life? So why attack another group of christians who have the very same goals you have?
The technicalities you fight over are trivial, if Jesus/salvation are the same virtues you both believe in why continually argue that "you are right and they are not"
Come on cowboy, where is the brotherly love? I don't think Jesus is impressed.
~~~

POSTING THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD IS NO DONE TO IMPRESS JESUS...

IT IS OBEDIENCE TO HIM...

JESUS SAID...

Joh_8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Joh_8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
truth

Forrestdale, Australia

#481395 Oct 10, 2013
https://www.google.com.au/search...

who are you

now liked ruin my life

they did not know
why they need know whom am i
What a shame..
Shame on you all

Did I pray to whom..
my mother toold me
pray open your heart then you will know
under foot of Cross INRI
12 years as night mare every night and every day
did i need pray for all you

your grandmother come
no no its not
yes it is i say him
then wwho have to beeeeeeeeeee
how can come he replay from where
from graveyard
as it is i see from that most horiblle way
where they been..in most horiblle down place

Are you for sure purgatory not exist

yes it issssssssssssss

its most hard sweet jesus make free who need Mercy

poor me
dfid i have peace
nooooooooooooooo
night mare they mockering me every night and every day
evil people

shut upppppppppppppp

who going pray save you

you judging me don't youuuuuuuuuu

you liked put on INRI
did you
what a shameeeeeee

i go cry now

all of you try ruin my life
don't tell me you not

now you don't liked pray

who need most Mercy

that they can be rich again
did i need cryyyyyyyyyyy
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh horribleeeeeeee
I don't liked wicket people not at all.

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