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#479878 Oct 3, 2013
marge wrote:
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I love you Hermi and Seri and your right we can have no communion in the Lord as the Blessed Virgin Mary is dead and can do nothing.
It will be a top priority to make amends with you's, after you stop praying to the dead and making God mad.
Sorry Marge...not interested....you are the exact type of people we were warned about. You think you have a clue about being a Christian, but you don't. I am NOT interested in dialoging with someone that CANT PRAY WITH ME nor WILL HAVE LUNCH WITH ME. You kind of LOVE is TOXIC..Please save your efforts, of saving someones elses SOUL for someone that is desperate for your kind of friendship. What makes you think that YOU are a TOP PRIORITY to us??? We surround ourselves with TRUE CHRISTIANS.
Truth

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#479880 Oct 3, 2013
"works of the flesh"

"they who practice such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God"

We MUST die to sin....

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#479881 Oct 3, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Marge,It is not Nicks soul that you need be concerned about. It is Your Own.You are correct in stating that you need not be gentle with Nicks soul. Lets pray that God will be gentle with your own.
marge doesn't realize(a good indicator that she isn't a Christian) that what harm you try to do to another persons soul, you are actually attacking Christ.

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#479883 Oct 3, 2013
sometimes things never change on this forum, only the names.

a few months ago, it was reggie attacking hermi and Sera,

now it is marge

I would love it if marge would shut up and go back the forum that she came from
OldJG

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#479885 Oct 3, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
sometimes things never change on this forum, only the names.
a few months ago, it was reggie attacking hermi and Sera,
now it is marge
I would love it if marge would shut up and go back the forum that she came from
You are correct. You said, quote, "sometimes things never change on this forum, only the names." End quote.

The name that is attacking everyone is YOU. Examine yourself. You call yourself a pastor. You remind me of a pastor who inherited a church of 400 and preached it down to 30. Those who remained were the deaf, dumb and blind. Also, you have the unmitigated gall to correct and chastise Adrian Rogers, a true man of God. You are not worthy of turning a single page in this mans Bible. Adrian Rogers was the pastor at Bellevue Baptist church from 1972 until 2005. Adrian pastored Bellevue as it grew from 9,000 to more than 29,000 members.

Preston, you think your gift is preaching but you have not found anyone with the gift of listening. When you turn around to find no one is following you perhaps then you will come realize you are nothing more than a blasphemous wanna be man God leading no one.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

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#479886 Oct 3, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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If only you had stuck to posting Sacred Scripture instead of adding your own personal opinions and used it to judge fellow Christians.
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SO YOU WANT ME TO POST FROM THE BIBLE WITH OUT GIVING THE CONTINUITY AND MEANING OF IT..

MY INSTRUCTIONS (AS WELL AS YOURS )IS

2Ti 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

2Ti 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

2Ti 2:15 ==> Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

BECAUSE I SHUN YOUR VAIN BABBLINGS ...(as the word instructs me to do)

you are exasperated)

Jesus said

TRUTH BRINGS FREEDOM

Joh_8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Joh_8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

YOU EVIDENTLY HAVE BEEN IN BONDAGE SO LONG THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT FREEDOM IS..

YOUR RELIGIOUS SOCIETY IS DESCRIBED HERE...
2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

YOU HAVE YOU OWN ADDITIONS ...AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA FROM WHOM YOU HAVE LEARNED THEM..

YOU HAVE NO INSPIRED WORD (as from the Bible) all you have is HEARSAY..

NOTHING GOD BREATHER NOR INSPIRED

PAUL WROTE TO TIMOTHY
2Ti 3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

2Ti 3:15 --> And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures,

which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is

in Christ Jesus.<--

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

SCRIPTURE DEFINED

Scripture
SCRIP'TURE, n.[L. scriptura, from scribo, to write.]

. Appropriately, and by way of distinction, the books of the Old and New Testament; the Bible. The word is used either in the singular or plural number, to denote the sacred writings or divine oracles, called sacred or holy, as proceeding from God and containing sacred doctrines and precepts.

There is not any action that a man ought to do or forbear, but the Scripture will give him a clear precept or prohibition for it.

Compared with the knowledge which the Scriptures contain, every other subject of human inquiry is vanity and emptiness.

INSPIRATION DEFINED
INSPIRA'TION, n.[L. inspiro.]

3. The infusion of ideas into the mind by the Holy Spirit; the conveying into the minds of men, ideas, notices or monitions by extraordinary or supernatural influence; or the communication of the divine will to the understanding by suggestions or impressions on the mind, which leave no room to doubt the reality of their supernatural origin.

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. 2 Tim 3.
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#479887 Oct 3, 2013
chuck wrote:
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I used a bad choice of words in my last sentence to Just Sayin...I'm sorry.
your last sentence?? how about your first sentence:
"you continue to open up your cake hole and look stupid". You should apologize to her for that one too.

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Minnesota Mary wrote:

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And who made you the authority on Church history?
We were there.

We are the Church that you left in 1054.

I just don't care for people being inaccurate, and when you claim that St. Peter was the first bishop of Rome instead of properly looking at him as an Apostle you are not being accurate.

So I have no problems correcting you just as I have no problem correcting Protestants when they are wrong.

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Franck wrote:

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Doesn't matter what the Protestants here know as most of them have already made up their minds about Catholicism anyway. This is between us Catholics now, a matter of in house business so to speak.
What does matter is that you have avoided addressing how many Eastern Church Fathers defended and believed in Petrine Primacy and the Papacy.
The Orthodox also fail to mention how many of the
Eastern Catholics didn't split from the Church during the Great Schism.
This Syrian Orthodox says this:
PETER IN THE SYRIAN THEOLOGICAL TRADITION
The Fathers of the Syrian Church tried to give a theological interpretation to the person of Peter. They were fully convinced of the unique office of Peter in the primitive Christian community. Ephrem, Afrahat and Marutha who were supposed to be the best exponents of the early Syrian tradition unequivocally acknowledge the office of Peter.
"Both Afrahat and Ephrem represent the authentic tradition of the Syrian Church. The different orders of liturgies used for sanctification of Church building, marriage, ordination etc. reveal that the primacy of Peter is a part of living faith of the Church...
It has been conclusively made clear that the modern Biblical scholarship supports the authentic Syriac tradition concerning the role of Peter."
PRIMACY OF ST. PETER
by Dr. Thomas Mor Athanasius,
former Assistant Metropolitan of Kandanad diocese
(Extract from the Paper presented by DR. THOMAS MOR ATHANASIUS on the occasion of
Syrian Orthodox- Roman Catholic Dialogue at Spirituality Centre, Manganam, Kottayam)
http://www.syrianchurch.org/Articles/Primacyo ...
Let me put this in words that even you may understand.

We agree that St. Peter was foremost amongst the Apostles within the Church. That is to say that he always operated within the Church and not over it.

Please do not confuse what we know to be true about St. Peter with the vain claims made by the Roman Catholic Church about herself and pretending that St. Peter was the first bishop of Rome. The site that you suggested before did that.

So please read what is being said. If it is talking about St. Peter, it is talking about St. Peter. Don't confuse St. Peter with a bishop of Rome.

The suggestion that St. Peter was the first pope did not exist in the first, second, or third century or even the fourth. It started in Rome after. When Rome started to make a big deal out of Apostolic Sees, something that was irrelevant in the east since there were hundreds of Apostolic Sees in the east.

The idea of the office of Bishop being a Petrine office was never exclusive to Rome either.

I really tire of refuting Roman Catholic Propaganda about vain papal claims. Especially when they are simply proof texts that don't always mean what they have been crafted to say.

But if necessary I will.

I don't see why the Roman Catholic Church finds it necessary to lie about this since it puts the rest of what she teaches in doubt to those who have spent the least bit of time studying history.

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<quoted text>There is no such thing as a dead Christian if they truly are a Christian. Scripture clearly shows God stating that if you keep His words you shall NEVER see death. Therefore you weren't gonna die. You were merely getting ready to transition from the flesh into that Spiritual body that happens in the moment in a twinkling of an eye.
Many people don't realize or understand the resurrection. The word resurrection has more than one meaning in the Greek. Resurrection for a Christian happens at the moment they transition from life in the flesh to life in the Spiritual body. In the moment in the twinkling of an eye.
There is no such thing as a dead Christian.
You sound like you were or have been having a pretty good pity party for yourself because of your sufferingets end the conversation here. in the flesh that almost brought you to that transition,the transition that you call death. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DEAD CHRISTIAN.
When Lazarus died the people didn't understand why Christ wept. He didn't weep because Lazarus had """died" "",Christ wept because it saddened Him because He the resurrection was standing right there with them and they had no idea at all. That's what made Him weep. It made Him so sad that He not only wept but He groaned at their unbelief and lack of knowledge. I feel like doing the same for you. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DEAD CHRISTIAN.
Christ is reality. What you said has nothing whatsoever to do with what I experienced. When you pray tonight tell Christ what He and I experienced together was not real, because of my "pity party" You know nothing about Life, Death, or the Real Christ, not the one in your head that permitted you to try to correct what they experienced in communion with Christ. t is disrespectful to me, to life, to death ( which Christ conquered) and most of all to Christ. Something is dead in you, my friend.Lets just end it here.
Anthony MN

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#479891 Oct 3, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>thankfully God doesn't care about what marge thinks.
don't you think it is strange that GIF/KAY, myself and Ros along with LTM like them?
and the catholics along with marge AND osbore DONT?
I for one don't wish to be associated in group 2.
I guess my question to you preston is would you fellowship, in real life, not pretend like on this forum, with people who "pray to dead people" and "worship idols"?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

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#479892 Oct 3, 2013
European Aussie wrote:
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So true. The world is now full of sinning married pastors and alternative spiritual healers etc. These people are not qualified Priests. Many I have encountered claim to have had a spiritual awakening, but they are not living in peace. Their preaching’s are concerning and they do not appear to be consistently living a true spiritual lifestyle free from sin. The true tragedy here of course is that their followers are the ones who suffer.
The Bible on False Preachers and False Prophets:
‘For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.’(2 Corinthians 11:13-15)
The Bible States There Are Also False Christians Among Us:
‘But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.’(Peter 2:1-3)
The Bible on Indecision
And...(forgot the reference but many will know it)'When is doubt, you will only listen to one word and that word is God's'.
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ROMAN CATHOLICS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TRUTH IS...

THEY ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN SPIRITUAL CONCEPTS FROM UNREGENERATED CARNAL

MINDS...

Until they have met the author...they will never understand HIS word...

Isa 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

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#479893 Oct 3, 2013
who="Clay "
2Tim 1:16-18, the Apostle Paul prays for a dead man. Don't let some unauthorized pastor tell you it says something else.

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Paul resurrected a dead man. He prayed FOR him, not TO him.

KM

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Minnesota Mary wrote:

John in N.J. attempted to digress from the debate by throwing out information on basilicas that he had gleaned from newadvent.org . He said that St. Peter's in Rome belonged to the Patriarch in Constantinople, thereby making one think that the Pope wasn't really in charge of St. Peter's.
One more thought. I provided you the newadvent site since it is a Roman Catholic site.

You are as bad as some Protestants. Give them a quote from the Bible and they ignore it. Give you a Roman Catholic site's verification and you say that I gleaned something from some site as if it was from Jack Chick.

I actually spent some effort trying to find a Roman Catholic site since I thought you might actually accept it.

Next time, I won't waste my time or effort and be like you and just stamp my foot and say "that is not true".

But, you will find that I don't lie.

That I don't buy into Roman Catholic propaganda is nothing new for the folks here who have been around a while.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

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#479895 Oct 3, 2013
Clay wrote:
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your last sentence?? how about your first sentence:
"you continue to open up your cake hole and look stupid". You should apologize to her for that one too.
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JUST WHAT IS A "CAKE HOLE"

SO AN INSULT FROM YOU ....SUPPOSE TO CORRECT ANTHER'S INSULT....

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#479896 Oct 3, 2013
I said that john had trouble with mary Hammond and here PAD verifies my words.

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John from NJ wrote:

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I provided you a Roman Catholic web site that says that St. Peter's was the Basilica of the Patriarch of Constantinople.
Read it.
John, you better be careful, you are already at odds with one Mary Hammond, and now Minnesota Mary! Do you have something about women with the name Mary?

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#479897 Oct 3, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I guess my question to you preston is would you fellowship, in real life, not pretend like on this forum, with people who "pray to dead people" and "worship idols"?
I liked John rom NJ, I like Hermi and Sera.

we could have eaten at Golden Corral anythimje.

however with you, I wouldnt eat with you or reggie any place or any time.
Anthony MN

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Minnesota Mary wrote:
John in N.J. attempted to digress from the debate by throwing out information on basilicas that he had gleaned from newadvent.org . He said that St. Peter's in Rome belonged to the Patriarch in Constantinople, thereby making one think that the Pope wasn't really in charge of St. Peter's.
One more thought. I provided you the newadvent site since it is a Roman Catholic site.
You are as bad as some Protestants. Give them a quote from the Bible and they ignore it. Give you a Roman Catholic site's verification and you say that I gleaned something from some site as if it was from Jack Chick.
I actually spent some effort trying to find a Roman Catholic site since I thought you might actually accept it.
Next time, I won't waste my time or effort and be like you and just stamp my foot and say "that is not true".
But, you will find that I don't lie.
That I don't buy into Roman Catholic propaganda is nothing new for the folks here who have been around a while.
Is this your way of getting back at me and other Catholics who have been successfully refuting the attacks by CIB, gif and you the last few days?

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#479899 Oct 3, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I liked John rom NJ, I like Hermi and Sera.
we could have eaten at Golden Corral anythimje.
however with you, I wouldnt eat with you or reggie any place or any time.
preston, we like Golden Corral!..When do you wanna meet? Dinner's on us!...lol
Anthony MN

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#479900 Oct 3, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I liked John rom NJ, I like Hermi and Sera.
we could have eaten at Golden Corral anythimje.
however with you, I wouldnt eat with you or reggie any place or any time.
Golden Corral? Yuck. You like people who stroke your ego, that's about it. And I'm sure you'd make them pick up the check...lol.

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