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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 701764 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Dec 11

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#480097 Oct 4, 2013
It is important to realize that in the Orthodox Tradition, the phrase 'Word of God' first and foremost refers to a person. The 'Word of God' is Jesus Christ, as St. John testifies in his gospel account, 'and the Word became flesh' (St. John 1:14). Christ being the Word of God, the Bible contains God's revelation expressed in written form, experienced and recorded by the saints. As Muslims point to the Qur'an as the ultimate revelation from God, Orthodox Christians do not point to the Bible as the ultimate and only revelation of God. Christians point to Jesus Christ, God manifested in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16), as the ultimate revelation of God.

Since: Dec 11

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#480098 Oct 4, 2013
In other words the Muslims have a book. We have a Living Person
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#480099 Oct 4, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> Just because you go to confession and get communion daily makes you no better than any other catholic or protestant under the eyes of God if you act out on your sins.WE are ALL guilty of sinning.Going to confession and getting communion is a Holy Mystery and should NOT be used as a weapon for someones PRIDE to show what a Holier Than Tho Christian you are compare to others. You have a much better chance of being people to your faith by setting an examples....
Your correct!! I am no better than any other Catholic or Protestant! But I choose to worship, believe, and adhere (each day) in the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FAITH in Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church because I know that it is a gift from Jesus Christ to HIS Church......... Despite your judgmental arrogance toward me and my Catholic Faith AND the Catholic Church,----- the Eucharist and Confession do not make me any holier than others..... It is a Grace from God that HE gives us, an opportunity to reconcile, each of us Catholic Christians WITH HIM. For those non-Catholics that debunk and attempt to "poo poo" it!!---Fine----it is their choice, but I have no intention of remaining silent, while Protestants and other non-catholics beligerently persist in attacking, condemning and judging our Catholic Faith, doctrine and teaching!!! If they "truly believe" their religion is the truth---then "go live it" and quit "ripping the faith of others, especially Catholics....However, the fact is "we all know they won't do that, because they would rather live in a world of "private judgmental" Christianity, where their "personal opinion" is the final authority!!!!!
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#480100 Oct 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
RCC Roman RCC Roman Roman Roman. Blah Blah.
Tell me, do you have hatred towards the Byzantine Catholic, Syrian, Coptic, Ethiopian Catholic, Orthodox Catholic? Or is your hatred focussed soley on the diocese of Rome and the Roman rite Mass?
Well Well WELL LOL

I understand Clay,
I feel for you,

your reaction is a normal human one, this typical of what prideful humans do when confronted with a logical argument that leaves them with no other option but to conclude their position is in error.

So your pride pulls the hate card out.
It was just a matter of time before the HATE card came out.

It will be ok take deep breaths.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#480101 Oct 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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Your refusing to admit the TRUTH Confrinting, CANNOT nor WILL EVER change over 2000 years of TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY.
Your religious society has gone the same rout as many other benevolent organizations..
Confrinting says: "your religious society has gone the same rout as many other benevolent organizations"

Sorry to burst your "anti-catholic bubble" Confrinting, but organizations, heretics minister, false teachers, hypcrites, bigots and anti-catholic (so-called bible experts) have come and gone for over 2000 years----YET----THE CATHOLIC CHURCH-----LIVES ON-----Just like Jesus said it would, in Matthew 16:18. "The gates of hell, shall NOT prevail against it (His One True Universal (Catholic) Church.....That is precisely why Jesus Christ intiated and formed His One True Church......(to save sinners) of which we all are!! Just because its members stray, doesn't mean that it was no founded by Jesus Christ HIMSELF to teach HIS infallible word!!
While the Catholic Church is full of sinners---so is the rest of the world.......... The issue here isn't "conduct" it is TRUTH of doctrine and historical and biblical teaching, handed down by Jesus HIMSELF!!! If you judge truth by the conduct of whether someone sins or not, then you had better "throw out your bible" because EVERY ONE of its authors were sinners. Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said "I am the worst of sinners" This only goes to show how duplicitous, twisted, and confused Protestants are in their anti-catholic rebellious and defiant teaching...
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#480102 Oct 4, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Your new pope Francis just indicated that the previous administration of the roman catholic church were NARCISISSTIC. The same men that you have boasted about continously on this forum.
What does that say about you?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/eur...
He didn't say that the previous administration was narcissistic.
Dan

Atlanta, GA

#480103 Oct 4, 2013
Michael wrote:
Pope Francis the new gun in town claims he is going to clean house of the narcissistic hirearchy of the catholic church, then he is going to make PJohn a saint, one of the very men he claimed was part of the problem. UNBELIEVABLE BUFFOONS!
Where was Pope Francis voice when he was in the #2 spot as a cardinal for many years? SILENCE!
He didn't accuse Pope John Paul II of being part of any problem.

You should be in politics. You spin like a top.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#480104 Oct 4, 2013
Has anyone ever conceded in in argument in Topix.Has anyone ever said "You know youre right. I changed my mind"? That would be truly historic.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#480105 Oct 4, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Can you please explain "self" to me.I see you post that in reply to other posts at times.
Start here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self

I'm actually surprised you hadn't done this yourself.

Herme seems like a pretty smart guy, he could probably add a few things also.

:o)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#480106 Oct 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it pertains to a certain Seinfeld episode called "The Contest".
Typical Catholic reasoning.

*winks*
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#480107 Oct 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Alreadythen. I guess I worship idols because you said so. Are you sure you have the same spirit that Peter and Paul had? Because you just falsely accused me. Seems to be the foundation of evangelicalism....bearing false witness.
Those idols you say we worship are called 'heroes'. They ran the race before us. By design, no human walks alone, so they are our family and Jesus' family. You guys made it YOU, Jesus, your Bible and dismiss His family. You cut down His family tree when you eliminate the communion of Saints. Then you damn yourself by falsely accusing us of worshiping them.
If you are a practicing RC you bow before graven of images you believe represent Mary a created being, who in fact was created by the 2nd person in the Trinity who we call Jesus since the incarnation. You offer prayers to her which biblically is an act of worship, you assign divine qualities to her. You put her in the place of Jesus who biblically is our mediator to the Father and none other is needed and to use another is Idolatry.

So I don't say you are an Idol worshiper the Bible and your actions do.

you say your duck is a hero LOL

but it still quacks like a duck
fly's like a duck
quacks like a duck etc
rename it all you want the bible has defined it before your "Heros"
were ever alive.

Its quite simply to see if you open your eyes.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#480108 Oct 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Clay "
No Pope has ever said, "Roman Catholic Church only true Church".
Anyway, scripture doesn't infallibly interpret itself. It takes an infallible body to interpret it.
Also, Jesus never left us with a list of Books to include in the future Christian Bible. Therefore, it took an infallible group to sit down and compile the list. Unfortunately for you, it was a Pope and other Bishops from the Catholic Church.
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Headline of this page today:
The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.
An infallible group ??? God alone is infallible!
KM
"God alone is infallible!"

By your own words you admit men cannot define this entity, yet you follow the texts written by by to define this entity.

Hypocrite or dishonest person - you can figure it out.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#480109 Oct 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Your correct!! I am no better than any other Catholic or Protestant! But I choose to worship, believe, and adhere (each day) in the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FAITH in Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church because I know that it is a gift from Jesus Christ to HIS Church......... Despite your judgmental arrogance toward me and my Catholic Faith AND the Catholic Church,----- the Eucharist and Confession do not make me any holier than others..... It is a Grace from God that HE gives us, an opportunity to reconcile, each of us Catholic Christians WITH HIM. For those non-Catholics that debunk and attempt to "poo poo" it!!---Fine----it is their choice, but I have no intention of remaining silent, while Protestants and other non-catholics beligerently persist in attacking, condemning and judging our Catholic Faith, doctrine and teaching!!! If they "truly believe" their religion is the truth---then "go live it" and quit "ripping the faith of others, especially Catholics....However, the fact is "we all know they won't do that, because they would rather live in a world of "private judgmental" Christianity, where their "personal opinion" is the final authority!!!!!
~~~

YOU WROTE
I choose to worship, believe, and adhere (each day) in the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FAITH in Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church

____

FAITH DEFINED IN GREEK

G4102
&#960;&#953;&#769; &#963;&#964;&#953; &#962;
pistis
pis'-tis
From G3982; persuasion, that is, credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), especially reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstractly constancy in such profession; by extension the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself:- assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.

I HAVE NO FAITH IN YOUR CHURCH ..

It does not meet the above criteria

My FAITH ALONE is in GOD...THROUGH HIS SON CHRIST JESUS...

Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.

YOUR CHURCH MISREPRESENTS GOD...

IT HAS NO

credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God,) AS a religious INSTITUTION

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#480110 Oct 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The highest majority of Catholics in our parish of 2200 parishioners who personally know me and "know of my conversion from "bible only Protestantism to Jesus Christ, to the Catholic Faith and to the Catholic Church would "overwhelmingly" say YES!!!....... Since you don't believe in the TRUE FAITH and SALVATION in Jesus Christ, in and through HIS Catholic Church, nor have any pews to sit in, sitting next to your anti-catholic fictitious history books and modernistic "21st century" list of heretical bible authors and writers is (no doubt) what keeps you company...... Can't very well verbally argue with a "paper back" book, because books can't verbally argue back.(lucky for you)!!
Stop being so prideful. I wasn't asking you.

You've just completed "Sin #1".

*pats you on the back*
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#480111 Oct 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU WROTE
I choose to worship, believe, and adhere (each day) in the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FAITH in Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church
I HAVE NO FAITH IN YOUR CHURCH ..
It is NOT MY CHURCH! It is Jesus Christs One True Church! AND SO
if you have no faith in Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church ---then you (no doubt) have no faith in Jesus Christ "either"!!! WHY!! Because Jesus and HIS CHURCH are one!!!! In Matthew 16, Our Lord says "upon this rock I will build "MY" Church!!!!!!!!! Like I (and others) have told you before, You, confrinting (do not speak) for God or Jesus Christ, and NEVER have!!!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#480112 Oct 4, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop being so prideful. I wasn't asking you.
You've just completed "Sin #1".
*pats you on the back*
Thanks! I'll go back to confession!!!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#480113 Oct 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
It is NOT MY CHURCH! It is Jesus Christs One True Church! AND SO
if you have no faith in Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church ---then you (no doubt) have no faith in Jesus Christ "either"!!! WHY!! Because Jesus and HIS CHURCH are one!!!! In Matthew 16, Our Lord says "upon this rock I will build "MY" Church!!!!!!!!! Like I (and others) have told you before, You, confrinting (do not speak) for God or Jesus Christ, and NEVER have!!!!
~~~

THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING BETWEEN A PERSON AND GOD

ANY MORE THAN THEIR SHOULD BE ANOTHER PERSON....LAYING THE BED BETWEEN A

MAN AND HIS WIFE...

2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

GOD DON'T TEACH A PROXY RELATION BETWEEN HIM AND HIS BRIDE
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#480114 Oct 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
GOD DON'T TEACH A PROXY RELATION BETWEEN HIM AND HIS BRIDE
Jesus Christs BRIDE is HIS CHURCH, of which Paul in letter to Timothy 3:15 tells us that THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH!!....There is ONLY ONE TRUTH, not 42,000 bible only Protestant (contradicting and inconsistent truths.....Your bible only ministry is just "one more" of those "relative truth" conflicting denominations in which YOUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION----"is the final authority.......... God is NOT THE AUTHOR of "relative truth" (self interpreting confusion) of HIS WORD in the bible!!!

Since: Feb 12

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#480115 Oct 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Your correct!! I am no better than any other Catholic or Protestant! But I choose to worship, believe, and adhere (each day) in the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FAITH in Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church because I know that it is a gift from Jesus Christ to HIS Church......... Despite your judgmental arrogance toward me and my Catholic Faith AND the Catholic Church,----- the Eucharist and Confession do not make me any holier than others..... It is a Grace from God that HE gives us, an opportunity to reconcile, each of us Catholic Christians WITH HIM. For those non-Catholics that debunk and attempt to "poo poo" it!!---Fine----it is their choice, but I have no intention of remaining silent, while Protestants and other non-catholics beligerently persist in attacking, condemning and judging our Catholic Faith, doctrine and teaching!!! If they "truly believe" their religion is the truth---then "go live it" and quit "ripping the faith of others, especially Catholics....However, the fact is "we all know they won't do that, because they would rather live in a world of "private judgmental" Christianity, where their "personal opinion" is the final authority!!!!!
You are doing the same thing as "they" are an hiding behind a defense excuse to justify your behavior.Best way to show others how you are in your faith is to show them by your actions not your typing skills....Again....the Eucharist should not be used as a weapon for ANYONES pride...no one is asking you to be silent. But there is a different way to defend the faith without Pride
Clay

Garden City, MI

#480116 Oct 4, 2013
Concerned in Brasil wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are a practicing RC you bow before graven of images you believe represent Mary a created being, who in fact was created by the 2nd person in the Trinity who we call Jesus since the incarnation. You offer prayers to her which biblically is an act of worship, you assign divine qualities to her. You put her in the place of Jesus who biblically is our mediator to the Father and none other is needed and to use another is Idolatry.
So I don't say you are an Idol worshiper the Bible and your actions do.
you say your duck is a hero LOL
but it still quacks like a duck
fly's like a duck
quacks like a duck etc
rename it all you want the bible has defined it before your "Heros"
were ever alive.
Its quite simply to see if you open your eyes.
True, if bow before any image that I believe is a god or believe Mary and the saints are gods/idols/divine, then I'm going to hell. That's why I would never think of these things or people as gods. I confess there is but only one God and I worship Him in the Holy Trinity.
The sad part is, I know you are aware of this, but you believe you found an 'out' by taking the first commandment out of context. You've convinced yourself God can be jealous of Mary or an image of Mary holding the infant Jesus. Absurd!
Let your pride and arrogance and words stand before God someday. Oh wait, you're so arrogant, you believe you don't have to stand before Him. You're good to go. You did an alter call and became saved for good!
You might need your yellow highlighted KJV in the next world to show Jesus how He is wrong about your scripture interpretations!!

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