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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 693160 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#480074 Oct 3, 2013
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#480075 Oct 3, 2013
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#480076 Oct 3, 2013
dadmans abode wrote:
Matthew 24 ~ Jesus: then they will deliver you to tribulation .. and will kill you .. and you will be hated by all nations because of my name ... https://praiseorbash.com/voteFeed/vote...
Matthew 24 says that???? Your Bible is defected....get a refund!!!

My Bible has 61 verses in Matthew 24 and it says a lot more than that!!!!!!!!!
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Claremont, Australia

#480077 Oct 4, 2013
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#480078 Oct 4, 2013
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#480079 Oct 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Its not just the verse you need to look at. You need to look at what Peter actually did and how the Church he headed came to fruition. Peter ordained Ignatius and set the Church up in Antioch. He ordained and taught Clement of Rome along with the Apostle Paul. The Church has been structurally visible since. You shouldn't be so jealous of the man. Maybe someday you'll be forced to give up your comfortable lifestyle and horses and be crucified for Jesus Christ like Peter was. Could you do it?
now why am I not surprised that you couldn't tell us what those keys were.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#480080 Oct 4, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
And you can honestly think that God was pleased with where the CC was,wrapped up in politics and the Inquisiton ..even if they ( Snipped).
The Catholic Church brought the Gospel to the world with no tv; no internet, no published Bibles or books, no motorized transportation; through plagues and famine; for the first 300 yrs, most of her hierarchy was arrested and martyrd.

During some periods of a less than perfect Papacy, the CC was building hospitals and feeding the poor using some of the greatest saints in our history. This is Our Lords mystical bride. Remember Rose, people need to greatly exaggerate and magnify the sins of this Church- even falsely placing blame on them when they don't deserve it- in order to debunk her.

I don't believe for a second God wills for Evangelicals to convert Catholics into
Protestantism. Of all the good you born agains do, you do not get credit for bringing people OUT of the Catholic Church.

Having said that, I don't necessarily doubt that God called people like Preston and Confrint to help stop the bleeding that humans created. Face it, the moral decay since the 60's required an extreme action by God, perhaps. I'm not pretending to know His ways, but it would seem logical to use certain men where they are at. Evangelicals have done great things pulling people out of the gutter and telling them about Jesus Christ. Many lives have been saved as a result of them. Are the pastors telling them the full Gospel truth? Probably not, but it doesn't matter when someone is so messed up. At least they were shown by the evangelical pastor how to turn their lives to Christ, allowing Jesus to work in their hearts. That's how I see it... God definitely has worked with protestants where they are at. I believe His will is for you to not stay out there in Protestantism though.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#480081 Oct 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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IF PER CHANCE CHRIST BUILT HIS CHURCH UPON PETER...(WHICH IS AN
ERRONEOUS ASSUMPTION)
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIGIOUS SOCIETY HAS NO MORE CLAIM TO IT...SCRIPTURALLY...
THAN ANY
OTHER GROUP THAT CLAIMS TO BE CHRISTIAN....ON THE EARTH..
If per chance Christ built His Church (WHICH HE DID) upon Peter (WHICH HE ALSO DID)---and----(WHICH IS BIBLICALLY TRUE in MATTHEW 16).....The (ONE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH--INITIATED BY JESUS HIMSELF)
is the ONLY CHURCH that has the FULLNESS of the FAITH and the FULLNESS of the TRUTH--(claim to it scripturally) because IT WAS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH in 382,393 and 397AD ---FROM THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS OF THE CHURCH THAT GAVE "ALL OF US CHRISTIANS" the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible confirmed, verified and authenticated over and over and over again by the vast majority of Church Historicans and Apologist authors and writers (both Catholic and Protestant)......... Your refusing to admit the TRUTH Confrinting, CANNOT nor WILL EVER change over 2000 years of TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY.
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#480082 Oct 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
It's pride and arrogance that causes someone like you to read the words of men who were taught by the apostles and say they were wrong. No, my faith is in Christ and His Body the Church, which He founded. It's not in Catholic haters 2000 years later who say they're part of some invisible church consisting of anybody who has faith in the bible alone and who claim inspiration but can't even agree with the protestant standing next to him. Sorry.
The Pharisee in his Arrogance and deceit makes a Straw man no surprise.

I never said any one specific early Church father was wrong.
I have quoted early church fathers that disagree with the RCC assertions in context though.

I said you and your RCC cheery pick them and quote them out of context, and then make a claim they all agreed on everything unanimously when they did not.

The early church fathers on all sorts of issues can be found to disagree. Eucharist is literal of figurative, Baptism for infants only for adults,

Here is one belief they all held and I have yet to see any writing of any early church father differ on, NOT to be political not to join any army, and not to wage war under any circumstances then along came the crusades some 1000 years later.

you and your sect take hypocrisy to whole new and higher level then mankind has seen before.
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#480083 Oct 4, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Dan, the bible supports it. The early Church taught it. I'm just trying to understand whether you think baptism itself, the water and the invocation actually conveys grace or not.
You are a laugh that is for sure.

Here is how your debating skills go.

RCC says sun rises in the West all early church fathers unanimously agree.

We post an early church father's quote showing he believed it rises in the East.

You respond

Dan, the bible supports it don't ask me where. The early Church taught it not sure who but I can get some cheery picked out of context quotes from new advent if you like. I'm just trying to understand whether you think the sun is hot and conveys heat, please go down this rabbit trail with me as I am trying to avoid the point of your post cause I really can't defend my man made tradition.

LOL you are hoot and that is about it.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#480084 Oct 4, 2013
Concerned in Brasil wrote:
<quoted text>
The Pharisee in his Arrogance and deceit makes a Straw man no surprise.
I never said any one specific early Church father was wrong.
I have quoted early church fathers that disagree with the RCC assertions in context though.
I said you and your RCC cheery pick them and quote them out of context, and then make a claim they all agreed on everything unanimously when they did not.
The early church fathers on all sorts of issues can be found to disagree. Eucharist is literal of figurative, Baptism for infants only for adults,
Here is one belief they all held and I have yet to see any writing of any early church father differ on, NOT to be political not to join any army, and not to wage war under any circumstances then along came the crusades some 1000 years later.
you and your sect take hypocrisy to whole new and higher level then mankind has seen before.
The cherry picking of the Church fathers is done by your side. You flat out ignore the most damning aspects of their writings, and you embrace some that only appear to validate the fundie theology.
There were disagreements among the Church leaders in every decade since 33 AD. There are still disagreements today too. This is all the more reason why Christ installed a Church and not a list of Books. Anthony is right, you guys are very arrogant to think you know more about the Ministry of Jesus Christ than Ignatius and Clement- who walked, ate and slept beside the Apostles. When they speak of what the Church and Eucharist is, than THAT is what the Church and Eucharist are.
You have no authority to show up 2,000 yrs later, and undo what these men taught. You're just a dude with a fairly new printed Bible that contains SOME of what SOME of the Apostles wrote.
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#480085 Oct 4, 2013
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Michael

Canada

#480086 Oct 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The cherry picking of the Church fathers is done by your side. You flat out ignore the most damning aspects of their writings, and you embrace some that only appear to validate the fundie theology.
There were disagreements among the Church leaders in every decade since 33 AD. There are still disagreements today too. This is all the more reason why Christ installed a Church and not a list of Books. Anthony is right, you guys are very arrogant to think you know more about the Ministry of Jesus Christ than Ignatius and Clement- who walked, ate and slept beside the Apostles. When they speak of what the Church and Eucharist is, than THAT is what the Church and Eucharist are.
You have no authority to show up 2,000 yrs later, and undo what these men taught. You're just a dude with a fairly new printed Bible that contains SOME of what SOME of the Apostles wrote.
Your new pope Francis just indicated that the previous administration of the roman catholic church were NARCISISSTIC. The same men that you have boasted about continously on this forum.

What does that say about you?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/eur...
Michael

Canada

#480087 Oct 4, 2013
Pope Francis the new gun in town claims he is going to clean house of the narcissistic hirearchy of the catholic church, then he is going to make PJohn a saint, one of the very men he claimed was part of the problem. UNBELIEVABLE BUFFOONS!

Where was Pope Francis voice when he was in the #2 spot as a cardinal for many years? SILENCE!

Michael

Canada

#480088 Oct 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Its not just the verse you need to look at. You need to look at what Peter actually did and how the Church he headed came to fruition. Peter ordained Ignatius and set the Church up in Antioch. He ordained and taught Clement of Rome along with the Apostle Paul. The Church has been structurally visible since. You shouldn't be so jealous of the man. Maybe someday you'll be forced to give up your comfortable lifestyle and horses and be crucified for Jesus Christ like Peter was. Could you do it?
Clay says....Its not just the verse you need to look at. You need to look at what Peter actually did and how the Church he headed came to fruition.

Michael says...OH!!....Lets just EVERYONE! "CHERRY PICK" whatever the bibe says, disregard what WE DON'T like and just mold what we individuallly like and create MILLIONS of differernt meanings.

BRILLIANT!! CLAY (LOL)

UNBELIEVABLE!
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#480089 Oct 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The cherry picking of the Church fathers is done by your side. You flat out ignore the most damning aspects of their writings, and you embrace some that only appear to validate the fundie theology.
There were disagreements among the Church leaders in every decade since 33 AD. There are still disagreements today too. This is all the more reason why Christ installed a Church and not a list of Books. Anthony is right, you guys are very arrogant to think you know more about the Ministry of Jesus Christ than Ignatius and Clement- who walked, ate and slept beside the Apostles. When they speak of what the Church and Eucharist is, than THAT is what the Church and Eucharist are.
You have no authority to show up 2,000 yrs later, and undo what these men taught. You're just a dude with a fairly new printed Bible that contains SOME of what SOME of the Apostles wrote.
You are not only arrogant but dumb

The HOLY SPIRIT is alive and functioning as he did in 33AD with the same SPIRIT THAT IS OMNIPOTENT OMNISCIENT and speaking to those he dwells in today leading them teaching them in all Jesus taught just as Jesus promised when he left.

I walk with the same Spirit in me today as Peter did, I make mistakes as great as he did and sin as great as he did.

My calling clearly is not the same as his, but I am his equal in Spirit that is for sure. The bible tells me so, his role was chosen not because he is better than me, Paul's life clearly was not before he was called. It was only because it pleased the Father. That is good enough for me, I am not jealous or think he is greater than I or any Church Father.

I am sure they look at the age we live and marvel at how life has changed and God chose us for this time because it pleases him.
At my finger tip I have access to first 300 years of early church fathers something they could never have imagined when they walked on earth.

YOU make dead Men Idols and make graven images of them and worship them, by bowing before statues of them and pray to them, I do not, I bow before no man no pope especially something made in the likeness of someone nobody knows what they looked like when they were alive. Your man made acts of worship are ABSURD, Peter would never allow it the Bible declares it, nor would Paul the Bible tells us so.

But here is the RCC's conundrum , it claims Unanimous early church fathers believing the same, but HISTORY shows this claim to be false.

Yes you can quote early church fathers that shot down big time what I assert. I never said you did not nor could not. You have no disagreement there with me, that again is your straw man.

But I don't need unanimous consent as I never claimed my positions or assertions were based on it. I don't claim authority for my dogma that my sect is the one and only based on unanimous early church father's beliefs.

BUT THE RCC SECT DOES.

AND THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY BECAUSE WHAT YOU CLAIM AS THE BASIS OF YOUR RCC'S AUTHORITY AS THE ONE TRUE YADDA YADDA TURNS OUT TO BE FALSE, when one examines the biblical and historical facts.

You have no case the claim the emperor is wearing clothes till the cows come home but he is not.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#480091 Oct 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
If per chance Christ built His Church (WHICH HE DID) upon Peter (WHICH HE ALSO DID)---and----(WHICH IS BIBLICALLY TRUE in MATTHEW 16).....The (ONE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH--INITIATED BY JESUS HIMSELF)
is the ONLY CHURCH that has the FULLNESS of the FAITH and the FULLNESS of the TRUTH--(claim to it scripturally) because IT WAS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH in 382,393 and 397AD ---FROM THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS OF THE CHURCH THAT GAVE "ALL OF US CHRISTIANS" the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible confirmed, verified and authenticated over and over and over again by the vast majority of Church Historicans and Apologist authors and writers (both Catholic and Protestant)......... Your refusing to admit the TRUTH Confrinting, CANNOT nor WILL EVER change over 2000 years of TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY.
~~~

Your refusing to admit the TRUTH Confrinting, CANNOT nor WILL EVER change over 2000 years of TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY.

Your religious society has gone the same rout as many other benevolent organizations..

such as the A.S.P.C.A. It started out with GOOD INTENTIONS and

gravitated into big business...and as it grew it became more and more

arrogant and controlling....IT Now claims a monopoly and a franchise on

the most sought after goal of humanity..HEAVEN ITSELF.

IT CHANGED IT'S POLICIES (which was supposed to represent Christ) to carnal worldly attitudes and actions

AND

ABANDONED IT'S HONORABLE REASON FOR EXISTENCE EONS AGO.

Like some Colleges here in America that was instituted to train Ministers

there is no semblance of the reason/purpose for which they were first

established...

You keep propping up a dead carcass..and no matter how many cosmetics you add to make it appear to be alive...

One cannot get past the stench of sin debauchery and death in it's

mausoleums.

It stopped COMPOSEING AND GIVING GLORY TO GOD EONS AGO and NOW IT IS

DEOMPOSEING IN ITS OWN GLORY...

Jud 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

Jud 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

Since: Feb 12

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#480092 Oct 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
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I use the Sacrament of Reconciliation (Confession), weekly (often daily) as a sinner, in order to make amends with God Our Father, and HIS Son Jesus, through the power of the Holy Spirit, especially (for patience and forgiveness in dealing with those of you who "willfully attack, condemn and judge" the faith of ALL of US Catholics and our personal faith and salvation in Jesus Christ!!
Stop bragging and practice what you preach!....you do the same thing under the banner that your defending your church. Just because you go to confession and get communion daily makes you no better than any other catholic or protestant under the eyes of God if you act out on your sins.WE are ALL guilty of sinning.Going to confession and getting communion is a Holy Mystery and should NOT be used as a weapon for someones PRIDE to show what a Holier Than Tho Christian you are compare to others. You have a much better chance of being people to your faith by setting an examples....
Concerned in Brasil

Aberdeen, UK

#480093 Oct 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The cherry picking of the Church fathers is done by your side. You flat out ignore the most damning aspects of their writings, and you embrace some that only appear to validate the fundie theology.
There were disagreements among the Church leaders in every decade since 33 AD. There are still disagreements today too. This is all the more reason why Christ installed a Church and not a list of Books. Anthony is right, you guys are very arrogant to think you know more about the Ministry of Jesus Christ than Ignatius and Clement- who walked, ate and slept beside the Apostles. When they speak of what the Church and Eucharist is, than THAT is what the Church and Eucharist are.
You have no authority to show up 2,000 yrs later, and undo what these men taught. You're just a dude with a fairly new printed Bible that contains SOME of what SOME of the Apostles wrote.
BTW further to my last post

Evangelical Christians and that is what I am, I am not a Protestant per say that is the name the reformation RC's gave those who disagreed with the RCC we have always been Evangelical, in English Gospel speakers.(Of or according to the teaching of the gospel or the Christian religion.)

All Evangelicals believe in the Church and its necessity in the formation of doctrine,and the testing of doctrine. That is the role of the body of Believers in Christ Jesus i.e. the Church. One of its many functions.

WE evangelicals just don't agree on historical and biblical grounds that the RCC is the one true church. It is not.

The RCC in its arrogance and pride has ignored the Spirit, the Word of God and isolated itself from the Church and that is why the RCC sect has been lead so far astray.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#480095 Oct 4, 2013
Concerned in Brasil wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW further to my last post
Evangelical Christians and that is what I am, I am not a Protestant per say that is the name the reformation RC's gave those who disagreed with the RCC we have always been Evangelical, in English Gospel speakers.(Of or according to the teaching of the gospel or the Christian religion.)
All Evangelicals believe in the Church and its necessity in the formation of doctrine,and the testing of doctrine. That is the role of the body of Believers in Christ Jesus i.e. the Church. One of its many functions.
WE evangelicals just don't agree on historical and biblical grounds that the RCC is the one true church. It is not.
The RCC in its arrogance and pride has ignored the Spirit, the Word of God and isolated itself from the Church and that is why the RCC sect has been lead so far astray.
RCC Roman RCC Roman Roman Roman. Blah Blah.

Tell me, do you have hatred towards the Byzantine Catholic, Syrian, Coptic, Ethiopian Catholic, Orthodox Catholic? Or is your hatred focussed soley on the diocese of Rome and the Roman rite Mass?

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