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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#477498 Sep 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
SIN
1. Any thought, word, desire, action, or omission of action, contrary to the law of God, or defective when compared with it.
Anyone....bar none....without the capacity to perform any thought, word, desire, action, or omission of action, contrary to the law of God, or defective when compared with it, is not guilty of sin...
If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.
I don't think I asked what the definition of sin is or who's capable of sinning. You're saying they're sinless and Rose said sinless people don't need a Saviour, so the question remains; Do babies and the mentally handicapped need a Saviour?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#477499 Sep 21, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I don't think I asked what the definition of sin is or who's capable of sinning. You're saying they're sinless and Rose said sinless people don't need a Saviour, so the question remains; Do babies and the mentally handicapped need a Saviour?
~~~

Your post genders debatable questions

We know that Adam and Eve did not need a Saviour in their innocence before the fall..

That they became guilty before God at the time of their disobedience,

and from that time all human beings are in need a Redeemer..

What brings the question to me is the reference to unclean children..

IN

1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband:

else were your children -->unclean;<--- but now are they holy.

-->UNCLEAN<-- defined in greek

G169
&#945;&#787;&#954; &#945;&#769;&#952; &#945;&#961;&#964; &#959;&#962;
akathartos
ak-ath'-ar-tos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and a presumed derivative of G2508 (meaning cleansed); impure (ceremonially, morally (lewd) or specifically (demonic)):- foul, unclean.

This begs the question...

ARE THE CHILDREN OF A COUPLE THAT ARE NOT BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT(REGENERATED) CONSIDERED UNCLEAN?

It says above... that if one parent is an unbeliever the children are sanctified by the other that believes..

AND it leaves open the question...

If both parents are unbelievers.... what is their children's position before God? ARE THEY UNCLEAN?

For you Roman Catholics that are unbelievers ...That ignore the Ten Commandments..and worship idols...

Your posterity is in jeopardy (CURSED) to the third and forth generation..

for GOD SAYS TWICE

IN

Exo_20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,

==>visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; <==

AND IN

Deu_5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,

==>visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,<==
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477500 Sep 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
It amazes me that you Roman Catholics will not allow women to be in a leadership position in your religious system..
yet you base your doctrines concerning Mary ...upon the words of
Elisabeth in the scriptures...that is neither an Apostle nor is there
any reference in the Bible of her being a disciple of Christ...
~~~
As for your facing God
You will face God whether you want to or not
It is an appointment that you wont miss...or be late for..
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
There is no such place given in the Bible called purgatory...where you have a second chance...
The bible says :

"When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy Spirit,
cried out in a loud voice and said, "Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb.
And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For at the moment the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy."

Sounds to me like St. Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and declared Jesus as her Lord. Sounds like St. John leaped for joy at the sound of the Blessed Virigin's voice. Sounds like you don't have Luke 1 in your bible. You've made yourself an authority to declare what verses in the bible we should pay attention to and which we can ignore. Just one more reason why no Christian should listen to you.
truth

Helena Valley, Australia

#477501 Sep 21, 2013
evil is evil
ja from your mother womb nobody go out except one things..
very sad confe

Did you have gun with bless salt?

i think after
all criminals pardon holy crimichi are around me
Are you for sure i am wrong?

SILKY SMOOTH SKIN ARE PART OF CREATION

its deference
wounds is open
they liked died but can't
truth

Helena Valley, Australia

#477502 Sep 21, 2013
14 generation =1000 years

Are you for sure real Creator not exist?

now you are mama gospa from nasa project..

Don't you!
truth

Helena Valley, Australia

#477503 Sep 21, 2013
zlobe=globe

Is that jealous?

very sad

Real Creator don't need be jealous.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477504 Sep 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Your post genders debatable questions
We know that Adam and Eve did not need a Saviour in their innocence before the fall..
That they became guilty before God at the time of their disobedience,
and from that time all human beings are in need a Redeemer..
What brings the question to me is the reference to unclean children..
IN
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband:
else were your children -->unclean;<--- but now are they holy.
-->UNCLEAN<-- defined in greek
G169
&#945;&#787;&#954; &#945;&#769;&#952; &#945;&#961;&#964; &#959;&#962;
akathartos
ak-ath'-ar-tos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and a presumed derivative of G2508 (meaning cleansed); impure (ceremonially, morally (lewd) or specifically (demonic)):- foul, unclean.
This begs the question...
ARE THE CHILDREN OF A COUPLE THAT ARE NOT BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT(REGENERATED) CONSIDERED UNCLEAN?
It says above... that if one parent is an unbeliever the children are sanctified by the other that believes..
AND it leaves open the question...
If both parents are unbelievers.... what is their children's position before God? ARE THEY UNCLEAN?
For you Roman Catholics that are unbelievers ...That ignore the Ten Commandments..and worship idols...
Your posterity is in jeopardy (CURSED) to the third and forth generation..
for GOD SAYS TWICE
IN
Exo_20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
==>visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; <==
AND IN
Deu_5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
==>visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,<==
So sinless (clean, holy) babies and mentally handicapped DO need a Saviour like the rest of us sinners. Why do your protestant friends insist that sinless people DON'T need a Saviour?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477505 Sep 21, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
What's more carnal; Insisting that every human being MUST be having sex, or believing that a man would not be willing to have sex with the mother of the Lord out of respect for the Lord and the dignity of His Mother?
"His disciples said to him,“If that is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” He answered,“Not all can accept this word, but only those to whom that is granted. Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage* for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it.”
"Now in regard to virgins, I have no commandment from the Lord, but I give my opinion as one who by the Lord’s mercy is trustworthy. So this is what I think best because of the present distress: that it is a good thing for a person to remain as he is."
"I should like you to be free of anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife, and he is divided. An unmarried woman or a virgin is anxious about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy in both body and spirit. A married woman, on the other hand, is anxious about the things of the world, how she may please her husband."
Understanding the context of the text from Matt will serve you better to understand other teachings by Jesus. This one concerned divorce.

Matthew 19:3-12

Some Pharisees approached Jesus, and tested him, saying, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any cause whatever?" He said in reply, "Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female and said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh ? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, no human being must separate." They said to him, "Then why did Moses command that the man give the woman a bill of divorce and dismiss her?" He said to them, "Because of the hardness of your hearts Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) and marries another commits adultery." His disciples said to him, "If that is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry." He answered, "Not all can accept this word, but only those to whom that is granted. Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it."

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477506 Sep 21, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
NASL
I am not diverting from the subject, which is faith and belief.
Actually, beliefs are part of a learned process. Faith is not.
One can broaden the meaning of faith, such as "I belong to the one true faith.", but that still does not define faith, or using it as a misnomer, and say, "I belong to the Protestant, Catholic, Hindu, etc, etc, faith."
There is a tendency to use a collection of beliefs and call it faith, but this is not true faith.
To describe faith is like trying to describe, confidence, trust, hope, and concrete, solidity. I suspect that each person is in some degree aware of these descriptions within themselves. It is not biological....
Self.

Which ultimately means faith is learn as well.

One is born - without learned experiences or the like.
One grows up being TAUGHT [learned from someone else]
One continues to accept what is learned
One then begins to have belief
One then turns belief into faith

Can prove that you acquired your faith in some other supernatural way, as I have described above? Have you?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477507 Sep 21, 2013
Typo -**learn s/b "learned"

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477508 Sep 21, 2013
StarC wrote:
Jesus had Brothers???
By Matt Fradd
September 17, 2013 |
Why do Catholics teach that Mary was a virgin throughout her life when the Bible clearly says that Jesus had brothers? Ever been asked that?
Let me offer four reasons:
1. The Meaning of Brother
The first thing to understand is that the
term brother (Gk. adelphos) has a broader meaning than uterine brothers. It can mean a biological brother, but it can also mean an extended relative, or even a spiritual brother.
Take Genesis 13:8 for example. Here the word brother is being used to describe the relationship between Abraham and Lot, who were not biological brothers but uncle and nephew:
“So Abram said to Lot,“Let’s not have any quarreling between you and me, or between your herdsmen and mine, for we are brothers”(Gen 13:8, NIV; see also 14:12).
Because of the Bible’s broad semantic range of “brother,” we can rest assured that although St. Paul writes,“[Jesus] appeared to more than five hundred…brothers at the same time”(1 Cor. 15:6), we need not infer from this verse that Mary gave birth to more than 500 children!
2. Children of Mary?
These “brothers” are never once called the children of Mary, although Jesus himself is (John 2:1; Acts 1:14).
3. Other Women Named Mary
James and Joseph (also called Joses), who are called Jesus’“brothers”(Mark 6:3) are indeed the children of Mary—Just not Mary, the mother of Jesus.
After St. Matthew’s account of the crucifixion and death of Jesus, he writes:
“There were also many women there, looking on from afar, who had followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering to him; among who were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.”(Matt. 27:56; see also Mark 15:40).
4. Consensus of the Early Church
The earliest explanation of the “brothers” of the Lord is found in a document known as the Protoevangelium of James, which was written around A.D. 150. It speaks of Mary asa consecrated virgin since her youth, and of St. Joseph as an elderly widower with children who was chosen to be Mary’s spouse for the purposes of guarding and protecting her while respecting her vow of virginity. Though this document is not on the level of Sacred Scripture, it was written very early, and it may contain accurate historical traditions.
Allow me to limit myself to three quotes from the early Church:
Athanasius of Alexandria
“Therefore let those who deny that the Son is from the Father by nature and proper to his essence deny also that he took true human flesh of Mary Ever-Virgin [Four Discourses Against the Arians 2:70 (c. A.D. 360)].
St. Jerome
“You say that Mary did not continue a virgin: I claim still more that Joseph himself, on account of Mary was a virgin, so that from a virgin wedlock a virgin son was born [Perpetual Virginity of Blessed Mary 21 (A.D. 383)].
Pope St. Leo I
“The origin is different but the nature alike: not by intercourse with man but by the power of God was it brought about: for a Virgin conceived, a Virgin bore, and a Virgin she remained [Sermons 22:2 (A.D. 450)].
Thus the same Church today affirm:
Jesus is Mary’s only son, but her spiritual motherhood extends to all men whom indeed he came to save:“The Son whom she brought forth is he whom God placed as the first-born among many brethren, that is, the faithful in whose generation and formation she co-operates with a mother’s love (Catechism of the Catholic Church 501).
http://www.catholic.com/blog/matt-fradd/jesus...
Hail Mary full of grace.
Why do you accept the ever-changing dogma men put forth for you to believe? Why do you trust men over Jesus?

Can you please show me where "God" specifically states which texts by the original Apostles are "of His inspiration" and which are not?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477509 Sep 21, 2013
StarC wrote:
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Hi, how's it going? Doing well in So Cal., finally getting some fall weather. Take care. <><
Have you read this?
Secular media always trying to make something out of nothing.
"Go Home New York Times, You’re Drunk
by Steven D. Greydanus Friday, September 20, 2013
So apparently The New York Times is so beside itself over Pope Francis' epic interview yesterday, it can't decide what it wants to say about it.
In fact, in less than 24 hours, it seems there've been at least three different headlines for the same story: an inflammatory headline, a more moderate one, and then a crazy, go-for-broke moonbat insane headline.
The original headline (still preserved in the article URL) was bad enough:
Well. Clearly someone’s obsessed with abortion, gay marriage and contraception. But I don’t think it’s the Church.
For the record, here is what Pope Francis actually had to say about obsession in his interview:
The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.
That’s it. That’s the only time the word “obsessed” or any cognate appeared in the entire interview. Read the whole thing for context.
Oh, by the way, did you hear about the pope “obsessing” about abortion earlier today? Not from the New York Times, you didn’t."
Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/steven-greydan...
THE INTERVIEW
Wow! Did the Pope really characterize the Church’s teachings on abortion, homosexuality and contraception as “small-minded rules” that the Church should get beyond?
That’s what you’d think by scanning the headlines, but the short answer is that the Pope said no such thing. Once again, this was a case of the secular press hyperventilating and taking the Pope’s remarks out of context.
Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pope-fra...
You should write a commentary on the McCain-Putin op-eds instead.

:o)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477510 Sep 21, 2013
StarC wrote:
TGIF....have a great weekend.
....and there she goes!!

Did you see her? Did you get her autograph?

Not this time? No fret, she'll be back, but you gots to be watching close.

She's quick like that! Like a cat!

Pops on for a minute to post and then....POOF.....she disappears.

Yep....WOW, huh??!! Just like magic!!

:o)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477512 Sep 21, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Niko,thanks for always having my back in life and I will always have yours. Gee, isnt that what husband and wives do for each other? Any wayssss...reminds me of a Sonny and Cher song,... they say were young and we don't know ( hmmm that fits ) wont find out until we've grown..( or joined up) I dunno if all that's true but babe you got me and babe I got you....Babe I got you babe....LOL
I sold a copy of the 1967 vinyl, about 6 months ago for $25.00.

:o)
truth

Helena Valley, Australia

#477513 Sep 21, 2013
your evil law is not my law as never going to be
no
truth

Helena Valley, Australia

#477514 Sep 21, 2013
para evil satanic program

very sad

“the final days are upon us”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#477515 Sep 21, 2013
Who Is The Antichrist?... Major religions are currently anticipating the appearance of their “savior,” variously called,“Messiah,”“Jesus Christ,”“the Twelfth Mahdi,”“the Fifth Buddha,” or “the Tenth Avatar.” Within ecumenical circles, there is a growing awareness that one single man might actually fulfill all these religions’ expectations. A one-size-fits-all messiah would bring all the world’s religions together .. http://www.endtime.com/the-antichrist/

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#477516 Sep 21, 2013
dadmans abode wrote:
Who Is The Antichrist?... Major religions are currently anticipating the appearance of their “savior,” variously called,“Messiah,”“Jesus Christ,”“the Twelfth Mahdi,”“the Fifth Buddha,” or “the Tenth Avatar.” Within ecumenical circles, there is a growing awareness that one single man might actually fulfill all these religions’ expectations. A one-size-fits-all messiah would bring all the world’s religions together .. http://www.endtime.com/the-antichrist/
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php...
BOO!! Scared ya!

:o)
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477517 Sep 21, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Understanding the context of the text from Matt will serve you better to understand other teachings by Jesus. This one concerned divorce.
Matthew 19:3-12
Some Pharisees approached Jesus, and tested him, saying, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any cause whatever?" He said in reply, "Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female and said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh ? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, no human being must separate." They said to him, "Then why did Moses command that the man give the woman a bill of divorce and dismiss her?" He said to them, "Because of the hardness of your hearts Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) and marries another commits adultery." His disciples said to him, "If that is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry." He answered, "Not all can accept this word, but only those to whom that is granted. Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it."
Sounds to me like Jesus is saying divorce and remarriage is adultery and is praising those who remain celibate for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven. Sounds very Catholic to me.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#477518 Sep 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Sex is a gift from God, but so is celibacy. I don't understand why fundies believe Joseph's calling was to procreate with Mary when God already did. Why do you automatically assume Joseph and Mary had a intimate marriage? Christians immediately understood her to be a Holy ark that bore the word of God made flesh. For the first Christians- who were Jews- its unthinkable for a devout Jew to have sex such an ark.
Go by the Bible alone and you should see what Mary is by studying the OT accounts of the ark of the covenant.
Mt 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

They did what husbands and wives do....that process produces cheeren...they had several...boys and girls...per Scripture..

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