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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#477362 Sep 20, 2013
Regina wrote:
"Because the Church’s teachings are clear, Francis will spend his precious time and energy showing a side of the Church that people, especially the MSM, hasn’t paid attention to: that the Church is not a museum of the perfect, it is a field hospital for sinners." -- Fr. John Zuhlsdorf
Hmmm, interesting that Fr. Zuhlsdorf should call the Church "a hospital for sinners". I agree and always have.
Hi, how's it going? Doing well in So Cal., finally getting some fall weather. Take care. <><


Have you read this?
Secular media always trying to make something out of nothing.

"Go Home New York Times, You’re Drunk
by Steven D. Greydanus Friday, September 20, 2013

So apparently The New York Times is so beside itself over Pope Francis' epic interview yesterday, it can't decide what it wants to say about it.

In fact, in less than 24 hours, it seems there've been at least three different headlines for the same story: an inflammatory headline, a more moderate one, and then a crazy, go-for-broke moonbat insane headline.

The original headline (still preserved in the article URL) was bad enough:

Well. Clearly someone’s obsessed with abortion, gay marriage and contraception. But I don’t think it’s the Church.

For the record, here is what Pope Francis actually had to say about obsession in his interview:

The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.

That’s it. That’s the only time the word “obsessed” or any cognate appeared in the entire interview. Read the whole thing for context.

Oh, by the way, did you hear about the pope “obsessing” about abortion earlier today? Not from the New York Times, you didn’t."

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/steven-greydan...

THE INTERVIEW
Wow! Did the Pope really characterize the Church’s teachings on abortion, homosexuality and contraception as “small-minded rules” that the Church should get beyond?

That’s what you’d think by scanning the headlines, but the short answer is that the Pope said no such thing. Once again, this was a case of the secular press hyperventilating and taking the Pope’s remarks out of context.

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pope-fra...

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#477363 Sep 20, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Preston...these people could not answer my question.....they were trying to get me to shut up.....
What would you think?
So you don't believe that we should test the spirits against the Word of God?
I, contrary to what Oxbore says, have proved you wrong on every point that YOUR church tries to make contrary to the Word Of God.

so in effect, YOU are calling me a liar.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477364 Sep 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
you wrote
I have no commandment from the Lord, but I give my opinion...
A typical Roman Catholic ATTITUDE, ONE THAT EVIDENTLY PERVADES THEIR WHOLE RELIGIOUS SYSTEM...
SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW?
And you think your opinion is superior to St. Paul's. What a shock.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477365 Sep 20, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
(CNN)–“Rain on parched land.”
“A bold new course.”
“Revolutionary.”
That’s how liberal Catholics responded to the stunning interview published Thursday in which Pope Francis bluntly said the church shouldn’t be “obsessed” with culture war issues like abortion and gay marriage.
“It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time,” the pope said, warning that the church's moral foundations will fall "like a house of cards" unless it strikes a "new balance" between preaching the gospel and taking political stands on divisive issues.
How did conservative Catholics, the church’s most ardent culture warriors, react?
“I’ll be honest; I was disturbed,” writes Matthew Archbold in the conservative National Catholic Register.
Note!!!! Abortion nor gay marriages are not political issues!!!!!!!
Did you read the pope's interview or the article this quotes? No? Well then you have no business commenting on it.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#477366 Sep 20, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I, contrary to what Oxbore says, have proved you wrong on every point that YOUR church tries to make contrary to the Word Of God.
so in effect, YOU are calling me a liar.
Preston....this has to do with the Word of God and the people that I was speaking of....

We will just have to disagree....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#477367 Sep 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Scour that internet son. Lol.
Pope said nothing new on Church teachings. Abortion is untouchable. So is gay marriage and contraception. The Church will never undo these teachings because of the basic truths involved.
This is more proof of the validity of the Catholic Church.
The Pope was merely telling Priests to back off on hammering away at these things.(pretty difficult when all your enemies in the media will not let you go a day without addressing it)
Its completely expected that nut jobs like you would purposely take it to a different level. Therefore I do not get upset as I know who you are and what you're really about.
~~~

YOU WROTE

Abortion is untouchable. So is gay marriage and contraception. The Church will never undo these teachings because of the basic truths involved.

Roman Catholics controls the Congress, Senate, and Supreme Court
in Washington..

Their actions prove your alleged confidences in the Roman Catholic

church to be false hopes and unreliable..

A chain is as strong as it's weakest link...

America has gone down the slippery slope faster since John F Kennedy the

first Roman Catholic elected for office since the mid 1860's.

even now they will not stand up against the presiding Muslim president

and his supporting the Muslim Brotherhood that is attempting to

establish sharia Laws here with American taxes.

The only war that you Roman Catholics have... is against those that you

consider protestants...otherwise your belief... as stated here in this forum..is...

"all religions are just different ships headed for the same island

the U.S." which is the basic doctrine of the antichrist..

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#477368 Sep 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Confession of sins are to be made to God ...not man
THE BIBLE SAYS..

Jesus never taught CONFESSION OF sins to another person...
NOR did he tell us to pray through Mary...
s and God
.
Snipped for space.

PENANCE – the sacrament, also known as Confession, through which Christ forgives sin and restores the soul to grace:

JESUS SAID.....
"Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained." (John 20:22-23. Also see Matt. 18:18).

Q.
Why do Catholics confess their sins to priests? What makes them think that priests can absolve them of the guilt of their sins? Why don't they confess their sins directly to God as Protestants do?

A.
"Catholics confess their sins to priests because – as it is clearly stated in Sacred Scripture – God in the Person of Jesus Christ authorized the priests of His Church to hear confessions and empowered them to forgive sins in His Name. To the Apostles, the first priests of His Church, Christ said: "Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you... Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained." (John 20:21-23). Then again: "Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven." (Matt. 18:18). In other words, Catholics confess their sins to priests because priests are God's duly authorized agents in the world, representing Him in all matters pertaining to the ways and means of attaining eternal salvation. When Catholics confess their sins to a priest they ARE, in reality, confessing their sins to God, for God hears their confessions and it is He who, in the final analysis, does the forgiving. If their confessions are not sincere, their sins are not forgiven.

Furthermore, Catholics DO confess their sins directly to God as Protestants do: Catholics are taught to make an act of contrition at least every night before retiring, to ask God to forgive them their sins of that day. Catholics are also taught to say this same prayer of contrition if they should have the misfortune to commit a serious sin (called a "mortal sin" by Catholics).

Granting that priests do have the power to forgive sins in the name of God, what advantage does confessing one's sins to a priest have over confessing directly to God in private prayer?

Catholics see several advantages in confessing their sins to a priest in the Sacrament of Penance. First, there is the Church's guarantee of forgiveness, which private confessions do not provide; secondly, there is the sacramental grace which private confessions do not provide; and thirdly, there is the expert spiritual counseling which private confessions do not provide.

With the Apostles, Catholics recognize that the Church is, in a mysterious way, the Body of Christ still living in the world (Col.

1:18); therefore they recognize that God will receive their pleas

for mercy and forgiveness with far greater compassion if their

pleas are voiced within the Church, in union with the Mystical

Body of His Divine Son, than if they are voiced privately,

independent of the Mystical Body of His Divine Son."
marge

Leesburg, GA

#477369 Sep 20, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you read the pope's interview or the article this quotes? No? Well then you have no business commenting on it.
Aren't you worried unrepentive homosexuals will start coming in groves and nobody will rebuke them? I sounded like they'll but up with it, what about the children? Clay was worried it would happen in our churches but it looks like your going to let it happen in yours.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#477370 Sep 20, 2013
TGIF....have a great weekend.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#477371 Sep 20, 2013
I read many blogs on the popes statements and it sounds like many liberal democrats might rethink the CC, so sorry for you.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#477372 Sep 20, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
And you think your opinion is superior to St. Paul's. What a shock.
~~~

Please give the specific scripture that makes what I have posted a shocking statement..

The Apostle Paul made many statements...don't you know...

Fact is he wrote several books filled with statements...

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#477373 Sep 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
THERE IS NOW...FOR YOU ...ONE MORE SPECIAL REASON ..ON THE OTHER SIDE...TO REMAIN FAITHFUL AND CONTINUE TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT OF FAITH..
BLESSINGS TO YOU, AND ALL HIS LOVED ONES, IN THIS TIME. OF YOUR SPECIAL FRIENDS HOMECOMING..(which to you is ..HIS HOME GOING)...
HAS HE NOT WORKED FAITHFULLY AND ANTICIPATED THIS EVENT..
IS NOT THIS WHAT HIS LIVING here on earth WAS ALL ABOUT..
Did he not labor to win as many souls as he possibly could..
NOW HE IS GOING TO RECEIVE HIS REWARDS FOR HIS FAITHFULNESS.
GOD BLESS YOU AND HIS LOVED ONES.
MAY THE RIGHTEOUS SEEDS... THAT HE HAS SOWN..FOR THE REAPING ..
GERMINATE.. AND BRING FORTH FRUIT ABUNDANTLY ...AT HARVEST TIME
BLESSINGS
GOD IS FAITHFUL
"People"(although they share a great many genomes with) are not plants.
Perhaps the "author" did not understand that.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477374 Sep 20, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Aren't you worried unrepentive homosexuals will start coming in groves and nobody will rebuke them? I sounded like they'll but up with it, what about the children? Clay was worried it would happen in our churches but it looks like your going to let it happen in yours.
"groves"?

Not worried in the least. The pope hasn't changed one iota of Catholic teaching. And he couldn't even if he wanted to. What you're seeing is a pope who is taking a more pastoral approach to those groups. Not a chance in the world he'd let those dissident groups work their way in.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#477375 Sep 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Please give the specific scripture that makes what I have posted a shocking statement..
The Apostle Paul made many statements...don't you know...
Fact is he wrote several books filled with statements...
St. Paul thought celibacy was better for serving The Lord. You say it's only his opinion. I gotta hand it to you confrint, Preston thinks he's just as good an apostle as St. Paul, you think you're even better.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#477376 Sep 20, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
(CNN)–“Rain on parched land.”
“A bold new course.”
“Revolutionary.”
That’s how liberal Catholics responded to the stunning interview published Thursday in which Pope Francis bluntly said the church shouldn’t be “obsessed” with culture war issues like abortion and gay marriage.
“It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time,” the pope said, warning that the church's moral foundations will fall "like a house of cards" unless it strikes a "new balance" between preaching the gospel and taking political stands on divisive issues.
How did conservative Catholics, the church’s most ardent culture warriors, react?
“I’ll be honest; I was disturbed,” writes Matthew Archbold in the conservative National Catholic Register.
Note!!!! Abortion nor gay marriages are not political issues!!!!!!!
Um, I think abortion and gay marriage are indeed political issues.

Politicians think they are. They talk about them and work legislation around them all the time.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#477377 Sep 20, 2013
marge wrote:
I read many blogs on the popes statements and it sounds like many liberal democrats might rethink the CC, so sorry for you.
....did you read what the Pope actually said, or did you read how someone on a blog is spinning it?

I never understand why protestants won't read source material about Catholicism. You guys treat it like its radioactive, or like you have a psychological compulsion not to look at it for information.

You guys would spend a week straight reading Jack Chick tracts without a break for food and water before you'd read one line of the Catechism.



ac

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#477378 Sep 20, 2013
StarC wrote:
Jesus had Brothers???
By Matt Fradd
September 17, 2013 |
Why do Catholics teach that Mary was a virgin throughout her life when the Bible clearly says that Jesus had brothers? Ever been asked that?
Let me offer four reasons:
1. The Meaning of Brother
The first thing to understand is that the
term brother (Gk. adelphos) has a broader meaning than uterine brothers. It can mean a biological brother, but it can also mean an extended relative, or even a spiritual brother.
Take Genesis 13:8 for example. Here the word brother is being used to describe the relationship between Abraham and Lot, who were not biological brothers but uncle and nephew:
“So Abram said to Lot,“Let’s not have any quarreling between you and me, or between your herdsmen and mine, for we are brothers”(Gen 13:8, NIV; see also 14:12).
Because of the Bible’s broad semantic range of “brother,” we can rest assured that although St. Paul writes,“[Jesus] appeared to more than five hundred…brothers at the same time”(1 Cor. 15:6), we need not infer from this verse that Mary gave birth to more than 500 children!
2. Children of Mary?
These “brothers” are never once called the children of Mary, although Jesus himself is (John 2:1; Acts 1:14).
3. Other Women Named Mary
James and Joseph (also called Joses), who are called Jesus’“brothers”(Mark 6:3) are indeed the children of Mary—Just not Mary, the mother of Jesus.
After St. Matthew’s account of the crucifixion and death of Jesus, he writes:
“There were also many women there, looking on from afar, who had followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering to him; among who were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.”(Matt. 27:56; see also Mark 15:40).
4. Consensus of the Early Church
The earliest explanation of the “brothers” of the Lord is found in a document known as the Protoevangelium of James, which was written around A.D. 150. It speaks of Mary asa consecrated virgin since her youth, and of St. Joseph as an elderly widower with children who was chosen to be Mary’s spouse for the purposes of guarding and protecting her while respecting her vow of virginity. Though this document is not on the level of Sacred Scripture, it was written very early, and it may contain accurate historical traditions.
Allow me to limit myself to three quotes from the early Church:
Athanasius of Alexandria
“Therefore let those who deny that the Son is from the Father by nature and proper to his essence deny also that he took true human flesh of Mary Ever-Virgin [Four Discourses Against the Arians 2:70 (c. A.D. 360)].
St. Jerome
“You say that Mary did not continue a virgin: I claim still more that Joseph himself, on account of Mary was a virgin, so that from a virgin wedlock a virgin son was born [Perpetual Virginity of Blessed Mary 21 (A.D. 383)].
Pope St. Leo I
“The origin is different but the nature alike: not by intercourse with man but by the power of God was it brought about: for a Virgin conceived, a Virgin bore, and a Virgin she remained [Sermons 22:2 (A.D. 450)].
es with a mother’s love (Catechism of the Catholic Church 501).
http://www.catholic.com/blog/matt-fradd/jesus...
Hail Mary full of grace.
edited for space

adelphos: from 1 (as a connective particle) and delphus (the womb); a brother (literally or figuratively) near or remote (much like 1):--brother.

brother: A male having the same parents as another or one parent in common with another.

Mt 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

The OT was translated from Hebrew...the NT was translated from Greek...whatever the Hebrew definition of brother means is immaterial...

Catechism of the Catholic Church 501 is based on lies...not Scripture..

Since: Jun 10

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#477379 Sep 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Scour that internet son. Lol.
Pope said nothing new on Church teachings. Abortion is untouchable. So is gay marriage and contraception. The Church will never undo these teachings because of the basic truths involved.
This is more proof of the validity of the Catholic Church.
The Pope was merely telling Priests to back off on hammering away at these things.(pretty difficult when all your enemies in the media will not let you go a day without addressing it)
Its completely expected that nut jobs like you would purposely take it to a different level. Therefore I do not get upset as I know who you are and what you're really about.
As usual...glad to help..

Note!!!! Abortion nor gay marriages are not political issues!!!!!!! For a pope to say they are, goes against everything that is Holy!!!!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#477380 Sep 20, 2013
StarC wrote:
Jesus had Brothers???
By Matt Fradd
September 17, 2013 |
Why do Catholics teach that Mary was a virgin throughout her life when the Bible clearly says that Jesus had brothers? Ever been asked that?
Let me offer four reasons:
1. The Meaning of Brother
The first thing to understand is that the
term brother (Gk. adelphos) has a broader meaning than uterine brothers. It can mean a biological brother, but it can also mean an extended relative, or even a spiritual brother.
Take Genesis 13:8 for example. Here the word brother is being used to describe the relationship between Abraham and Lot, who were not biological brothers but uncle and nephew:
“So Abram said to Lot,“Let’s not have any quarreling between you and me, or between your herdsmen and mine, for we are brothers”(Gen 13:8, NIV; see also 14:12).
Because of the Bible’s broad semantic range of “brother,” we can rest assured that although St. Paul writes,“[Jesus] appeared to more than five hundred…brothers at the same time”(1 Cor. 15:6), we need not infer from this verse that Mary gave birth to more than 500 children!
2. Children of Mary?
These “brothers” are never once called the children of Mary, although Jesus himself is (John 2:1; Acts 1:14).
3. Other Women Named Mary
James and Joseph (also called Joses), who are called Jesus’“brothers”(Mark 6:3) are indeed the children of Mary—Just not Mary, the mother of Jesus.
After St. Matthew’s account of the crucifixion and death of Jesus, he writes:
“There were also many women there, looking on from afar, who had followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering to him; among who were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.”(Matt. 27:56; see also Mark 15:40).
4. Consensus of the Early Church
The earliest explanation of the “brothers” of the Lord is found in a document known as the Protoevangelium of James, which was written around A.D. 150. It speaks of Mary asa consecrated virgin since her youth, and of St. Joseph as an elderly widower with children who was chosen to be Mary’s spouse for the purposes of guarding and protecting her while respecting her vow of virginity. Though this document is not on the level of Sacred Scripture, it was written very early, and it may contain accurate historical traditions.
Allow me to limit myself to three quotes from the early Church:
Athanasius of Alexandria
“Therefore let those who deny that the Son is from the Father by nature and proper to his essence deny also that he took true human flesh of Mary Ever-Virgin [Four Discourses Against the Arians 2:70 (c. A.D. 360)].
St. Jerome
“You say that Mary did not continue a virgin: I claim still more that Joseph himself, on account of Mary was a virgin, so that from a virgin wedlock a virgin son was born [Perpetual Virginity of Blessed Mary 21 (A.D. 383)].
Pope St. Leo I
“The origin is different but the nature alike: not by intercourse with man but by the power of God was it brought about: for a Virgin conceived, a Virgin bore, and a Virgin she remained [Sermons 22:2 (A.D. 450)].
Thus the same Church today affirm:
Jesus is Mary’s only son, but her spiritual motherhood extends to all men whom indeed he came to save:“The Son whom she brought forth is he whom God placed as the first-born among many brethren, that is, the faithful in whose generation and formation she co-operates with a mother’s love (Catechism of the Catholic Church 501).
http://www.catholic.com/blog/matt-fradd/jesus...
Hail Mary full of grace.
adelphos:,from 1 (as a connective particle) and delphus (the womb); a brother (literally or figuratively) near or remote (much like 1):--brother.

brother: A male having the same parents as another or one parent in common with another.

Mt 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

The teaching in Catechism of the Catholic Church 501 is a lie....it is not supported by Scripture...

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#477381 Sep 20, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you read the pope's interview or the article this quotes? No? Well then you have no business commenting on it.
As usual...glad to help..

Note!!!! Abortion nor gay marriages are not political issues!!!!!!! For a pope to say they are, goes against everything that is Holy!!!!!

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