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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476824 Sep 17, 2013
Rosesz wrote:
<quoted text>
First off we h e a,common maternal ancestor ..
Second ..where does it say WHAT race they were ..
Maybe a combination if all for all we know as they were created
Directly by God Not born .
You think He was my POWERFUL enough to do this ..giving them DNA that would pass on different traits to each child ??
Since He obviously planned for differences
Do you understand what is going on when in Genesis 6 it states that Noah was """"" PERFECT IN HIS GENERATIONS""" ""? That's why he was chosen to build the ark. His bloodline was """"PURE """" in that he nor his family had intermixed their bloodline with any of the other races or the fallen angels....hense he was perfect in his generations i.e., HIS PEDIGREE,HIS RACE WAS PURE. God wanted PURITY among the races especially the race through which CHRIST was to come. Thats why Satan tried so hard to mongrelize the line through which Christ was to come by having the races intermix. Noah was chosen because scripture tells us that he was PERFECT IN HIS GENERATIONS.

This is so simple that even a child should be able to comprehend this.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476825 Sep 17, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>I did say that if you're not one of the Elect then there are some things in the scriptures that you will not be able to see.
However, there are those of the """"ETHNOS """" that God has allowed to be able to glean a deeper understanding of His word as well because these special ones will be used as teachers in the Millenial kingdom of Christ to teach those of you that don't have an accurate grasp of His word at this time. But they are not members of the Elect. If you are a member of the ETHNOS and you have been given the gift of being able to accurately comprehend Gods word on a deeper level then you are not a member of the Elect but you were a set aside one for a special purpose in the Millennial kingdom. So I never said I was a member of the Elect. Stop telling that lie.
And I'm not caucasian i.e.,a member of one of the twelve tribes of Israel therefore I can't be one the Elect nor one of the 7000 "VERY ELECT".

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476826 Sep 17, 2013
Puzzling. Guys I have a patient (94 years old) that when she is awake she constantly says repeatedly Lord have mercy,Lord have mercy over and over and over but when her family is visiting she doesn't do this. In fact she acts quite lucid then but in the absence of her family she repeatedly says Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy over and over. We can't get through to her but let her family come to visit and she ceases and desist. Puzzling.

Since: Dec 11

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#476827 Sep 18, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
Puzzling. Guys I have a patient (94 years old) that when she is awake she constantly says repeatedly Lord have mercy,Lord have mercy over and over and over but when her family is visiting she doesn't do this. In fact she acts quite lucid then but in the absence of her family she repeatedly says Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy over and over. We can't get through to her but let her family come to visit and she ceases and desist. Puzzling.
Do you know what her faith is?

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476828 Sep 18, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Do you know what her faith is?
No,I don't but next time I see her family I'm going to ask.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#476829 Sep 18, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>No,I don't but next time I see her family I'm going to ask.
Might be helpful.Thanx Tony I apologize for my previous rude remarks to you

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476830 Sep 18, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Might be helpful.Thanx Tony I apologize for my previous rude remarks to you
That's okay. Sometimes rude remarks can help build a tough skin.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476831 Sep 18, 2013
Okay guys. I have to tell you guys about what happened to me last sunday. Remember a while back when I told you guys one of the surgeons that works here hit on me and tried to get me to go out to dinner with him and I turned him down?

Well this is why I know I've been saved. I was at Piedmont Park last sunday jogging after I'd finished workign out (a daily regimen with me) and I heard someone calling my name. It was the surgeon that had tried to get me to go out with him a while back. Now I had taken my shirt off to jog and when he came running up to me he immediately started flirting with me by commenting on my abs and actually touched them. Touching me is a no no unless I invite you too so I sharply chastized him.

He again invited me out to dinner and when I turned down his invitation yet again he invited me to his house for dinner.

He asked me why I kept rejecting his invitations and I got honest with him and told him why. He laughed at me when he heard that I rejected his ""invitations" " for religious reasons.

He asked me if I really believed that regardless of what our orientation was,if God really wanted us to deny ourselves a what he called a natural human need. I laughed and said yes He does if the need is a homosexual activity.

Now I have to tell you guys that this man would be quite a catch for someone. He's well educated,can carry on great conversation and people this man is as fit and cut as I am because he too is into keeping fit.

I know I was being tested because it took all I could muster to turn down his advances so that's why I say I know I've been saved.

But guess what, that same day three different females hit on me as well. Now that grossed me out,LOL.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476832 Sep 18, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>That's okay. Sometimes rude remarks can help build a tough skin.
I been buked,scorned. Talked about sho's you born. Long as I got King Jesus,don't need nobody else.

Anybody familiar with those lyrics,LOL?

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476833 Sep 18, 2013
Okay. Time for a little levity,LOL.

Your mama teeth were all gone except four wisdom teeth. They called her smart mouth.

Yeah, yeah that was corny,LOL but what'd ya expect this early in the morning?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#476835 Sep 18, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>BUT YOU WERE NOT LIVING AT THAT TIME, SO THOSE WORDS DONT APPLY TO YOU PERSONALLY. the chances are that your people were not living in any of the Nations these men went into.
why is that difficult for you or anyone else to understand?
the FIRST application for those Men was to make believers, then baptize them, in that order.
if not, they go down, dry sinners and come up wet sinners.
If those words don't apply to me, why do you bother then to try to tell me that He said "make believers THEN baptize them" (which He didn't say).

Make up your mind.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#476837 Sep 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Make disciples of
The DOUAY says teach
Then it says,baptize..
I keep asking ..if its not made up words,..concocted in a basement ..
Then why should we not believe it ..
You have to teach first ..they have to BECOME disciples...then get baptized ..
Whole households could refer to the adults and servants ..there are no stories,..by the apostles of dunking babies.
It's fine ..I said I have personally no problem with it being done ..some ' non Catholic churches do it. But it's NOT salvation.
GOD gavb His,Son so THat those who BELIEVE have eternal life
...requires belief in the heart if the one who is sAved .
Now personally I think Confirmation is closer to a symbol of receiving the Spirit by belief ...if it's not just done by rote at a certain age ..which happens,..
It's our hearts..soul and spirit that Jesus wants..Not just reviving outward signs because one is born..is,seven..is 12 or whatever the proscribed ages are now ..it's not like tenure ..You stay in the Church for an amount of years ..get the sacraments and you get Grace to be saved ...
That would MAKE no sense
"You have to teach first ..they have to BECOME disciples...then get baptized .."

It doesn't say that, Rose. There isn't a predicate act to baptism. No " do X then Y" . It's "do X AND Y".
Dan

Omaha, NE

#476839 Sep 18, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
A question that no Catholic will answer:
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Why were they lied to???!!!! Why were they not told the truth???? Why were they not told to be baptized????!!!!
Jesus said baptism was necessary.

There. I answered you, and I'm Catholic, so you can stop repeating yourself.

Thanks
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#476840 Sep 18, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Quit reading your church doctrine.
there are more that just Christians in Heaven.
look at your question. a baby would know that is wrong.
Obeying Jesus' COMMANDS....Preston....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#476841 Sep 18, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Old JG,
Baptism of the Holy Spirit was DIRECTLY from God and only happened twice.....apostles and House of Cornelius WITHOUT water.....
POWER was received by the apostles......Book of Acts Chapter 1 & 2.....
Acts 1:4
4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command:“Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.
Jesus commanded them NOT to leave Jerusalem......WAIT for the gift my FATHER promised.......Baptism of the Holy Spirit (power)
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost (WITHOUT WATER)
Acts 2:4
4 <<<<<All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit>>>>> and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
Luke 24:49
49 I am going to send you what <<<my Father has promised;>>> but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”
My Father has promised......COMMAND....stay in the city UNTIL you have been CLOTHED with POWER FROM ON HIGH......
Do you see it now?
~~~
Baptism of the Holy Spirit was DIRECTLY from God and only happened twice..

Your assessment here is the reason that most churches to day are as powerless as they are.

Just whom was Jesus speaking to when he said..

Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Why do you limit the works of GOD and attempt to separate the evidences of the initial outpouring of the HOLY GHOST

(THAT IS RECORDED MANY TIMES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT)

from HIS church that exist today.

YOUR LIMITING OF THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BORDERS ON BLASPHENY.

LIKE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT HAS ATTEMPTED TO PUT GOD IN THEIR BOX

AND CLAIM HIM ONLY FOR THEMSELVES.....

You attempt to put

the HOLY GHOST

in you own cage and

only allow him

the privileges to operate

with in the limits of your own carnal mind.

QUESTION..

IF YOU CAN PUT

THE THIRD PERSON OF THE GOD HEAD

UNDER CONTROL

OF YOUR CARNALLY MINDED THOUGHTS,

AND LIMITED MUSING WHY DO YOU CALL HIM GOD?

YOUR IGNORANCE OF THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST

WHICH DEFINED IN GREEK IS THE ROOT WORD FOR DYNAMITE..

dunamis
doo'-nam-is
From G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specifically miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself):- ability, abundance, meaning, might (-ily,-y,-y deed),(worker of) miracle (-s), power, strength, violence, mighty (wonderful) work.

REMINDS ME

of a man (in Virginia),( ignorant of the power of explosives) that

while attempting to dig a basement beneath his house

proceeded to blow his cook stove up in the rafters of the place..

Truth

Leesburg, VA

#476843 Sep 18, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Hank, by your own church questions, you are proving that you are not Saved, and that is sad.
every person in the NT that were saved were then baptize, not vice versa
Sorry Preston....

You CANNOT be saved until you participate in the burial.....

By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

We have to die to sin....Preston....

For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the <<<<<body ruled by sin might be done away with,>>>>> that we should no longer be slaves to sin—

body ruled by SIN might be done away with.....

Then comes your NEW LIFE, NEW BIRTH....
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#476844 Sep 18, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>True that. Which brings to mind yet another point. It seems that Cain did once go through the motions of honoring God or was he like so many of the posters that are here in that they honor God with their lips but their hearts are far from Him? Why did God reject the offering that Cain brought?
Tony,

Abel's sacrifice was offered "with faith"....if you will "more excellent."

Hebrews 11:4

4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#476845 Sep 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Baptism of the Holy Spirit was DIRECTLY from God and only happened twice..
Your assessment here is the reason that most churches to day are as powerless as they are.
Just whom was Jesus speaking to when he said..
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Why do you limit the works of GOD and attempt to separate the evidences of the initial outpouring of the HOLY GHOST
(THAT IS RECORDED MANY TIMES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT)
from HIS church that exist today.
YOUR LIMITING OF THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BORDERS ON BLASPHENY.
LIKE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT HAS ATTEMPTED TO PUT GOD IN THEIR BOX
AND CLAIM HIM ONLY FOR THEMSELVES.....
You attempt to put
the HOLY GHOST
in you own cage and
only allow him
the privileges to operate
with in the limits of your own carnal mind.
QUESTION..
IF YOU CAN PUT
THE THIRD PERSON OF THE GOD HEAD
UNDER CONTROL
OF YOUR CARNALLY MINDED THOUGHTS,
AND LIMITED MUSING WHY DO YOU CALL HIM GOD?
YOUR IGNORANCE OF THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST
WHICH DEFINED IN GREEK IS THE ROOT WORD FOR DYNAMITE..
dunamis
doo'-nam-is
From G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specifically miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself):- ability, abundance, meaning, might (-ily,-y,-y deed),(worker of) miracle (-s), power, strength, violence, mighty (wonderful) work.
REMINDS ME
of a man (in Virginia),( ignorant of the power of explosives) that
while attempting to dig a basement beneath his house
proceeded to blow his cook stove up in the rafters of the place..
~~~

dunamis
doo'-nam-is
From G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specifically miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself):- ability, abundance, meaning, might (-ily,-y,-y deed),(worker of) miracle (-s), power, strength, violence, mighty (wonderful) work.

Dunamis ...evivently mean no more to some of you ...than a fire cracker.

some churches treat GOD'S DUNAMIS... as if it were a stink bomb..

THEY WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS POWER..

IF SOME ONE HAPPENS TO COMES INTO THEIR MIST THAT IS FILLED WITH THE REAL POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST

and
the Holy Ghost demonstrates his power through them...

The deacons get them by the arms and evict them..

they treat them with disdain...

Just as the Roman Catholic church did MARTIN LUTHER

THEY TREAT THE HOLY GHOST...

IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES DID JESUS.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#476846 Sep 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
they treat them with disdain...
Just as the Roman Catholic church did MARTIN LUTHER
How are heretics to be treated, GIF?

Do you have them over to play cards, or what?
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#476847 Sep 18, 2013
marge wrote:
as the means of salvation,
by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; by the former is meant, not the ordinance of water baptism; for that is never expressed by washing, nor is it the cause or means of regeneration; the cause being the Spirit of God, and the means the word of God: and besides, persons ought to be regenerated before they are baptized; and they may be baptized, and yet not regenerated, as Simon Magus; nor is it a saving ordinance, or a point of salvation; nor can it be opposed to works of righteousness, as this washing is; for that itself is a work of righteousness; see Matthew 3:15 and if persons were saved by that, they would be saved by a work of righteousness, contrary to the text itself: but regenerating grace is meant, or a being born of water, and of the Spirit; that is, of the grace of the Spirit, comparable to water for its purity and cleansing virtue: hence such who are regenerated and sanctified, are said to be washed and cleansed, having their hearts purified by faith, and their consciences purged from sin by the blood of Christ:
Marge,

What does the word regeneration mean?

New birth or rebirth

Baptism is a washing....

Now put the two together....

Being transformed.....

Romans 12:2

2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

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