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marge

Ames, IA

#476285 Sep 13, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
Full of Love, another question for you if I may. If according to your mistaken belief ( and sadly you are not alone in that mistaken belief) if Adam and Eve were the only two original people on earth and they were both of the same race, where did all the different races come from?
Two people of the exact same race cannot produce a child of a different race. Yet we have multiple races inhabiting the earth.
God is very natural and He does NOT operate against nature and if two pure white people have sex and reproduce a child that child will NEVER be a different race than it's parents. So if Adam and Eve were the same race and the only original two people on earth, where did all the different races come from?
oh dear Tony race and or color never was an issue until people made it one, God created us equal.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476286 Sep 13, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
No need for you to live in that world Tony,(false teaching}, live only for Him that saved you from your sins.
SWweetheart just because God has not given you eyes to see nor ears to hear does not mean the teacher is a false teacher.

Cain went to the East of Eden which means that he most likely went to the ORIENT and took a wife. Have you read Jeremiah chapter 35? Just the first few verses because I know you are not likely to be a deep reader judging from how inaccurate your beliefs are.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476287 Sep 13, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
oh dear Tony race and or color never was an issue until people made it one, God created us equal.
Shows that you too are none too bright when it comes to rightly dividing the word of truth. Why did God forbid Abraham sons not to go to find a wife for his sons among those people that were not of his race.

Race may not matter to you mere mortals in your ignorance but it seems that it sure does matter to God. He even placed boundaries between the races. Have you not read the scriptures?

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476288 Sep 14, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text> Shows that you too are none too bright when it comes to rightly dividing the word of truth. Why did God forbid Abraham sons not to go to find a wife for his sons among those people that were not of his race.
Race may not matter to you mere mortals in your ignorance but it seems that it sure does matter to God. He even placed boundaries between the races. Have you not read the scriptures?
And don't get it confused and start calling God a racist. He is not a racist but he is a RACIALIST. I know that just thouroughly confused most of you. Originally God DID NOT want the races to intermix. Kind after kind means more than you "we are all the same" ignoramuses can glean from that statement.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476289 Sep 14, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>SWweetheart just because God has not given you eyes to see nor ears to hear does not mean the teacher is a false teacher.
Cain went to the East of Eden which means that he most likely went to the ORIENT and took a wife. Have you read Jeremiah chapter 35? Just the first few verses because I know you are not likely to be a deep reader judging from how inaccurate your beliefs are.
Oh Marge,I apologize. Why did I tell you to read the first few chapters of Jeremiah 25? You're not gonna be able to grasp that. Especially when I didn't recommend a certain chapter in Chronicles that interprets the message in Jeremiah 35. I might as well be telling you to try and do Chinese arithmetic.

Just forget what I told you to read.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#476290 Sep 14, 2013
Ooops faux pas. Meant to say Jeremiah 35.
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#476292 Sep 14, 2013
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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#476293 Sep 14, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>What you fail to understand is that God made the different races and so some were fishermen and some were hunters etc etc so that's what they ate.. But scripture tells us that God did not have a man to till the ground. Adam was made for this specific job and God placed him into Eden to till the ground etc, to be a farmer.
Let me now ask you a question. When Cain was driven out into the world after he slew Abel, where did he get his wife from? He was afraid that people would harm him so who were these people that he was afraid of? And don't say the erroneous answer that most of the mistaken always say. And fyi,Pastor Murray is the most gifted and anointed preacher on this earth since Dr. Bullinger.
Your trivia is inconsequential to God's plan of salvation..

Any true Bible student knows that Cain could have married as many wives as he desired to..

The Bible says..

Gen 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and -->he begat sons and daughters:<--

Gen 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

~~~
THE ANSWER IS

No one knows how old Cain was when he went into the Land of Nod

Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
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Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Mean while ADAM AND EVE WERE HAVING MORE CHILDREN...AND THEIR CHILDREN were fruitful.

NO ONE KNOWS HAW MANY GENERATIONS/DESCENDENTS OF ADAM AND EVE WERE UPON THE EARTH WHEN CAIN TOOK HIS WIFE.

___
Note..

IN MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE YEARS

YOUR KIND OF TRIVIA ABOVE ....

IS USUALLY WHAT A PERSON WILL GO TO/ASK WHEN THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE CONVERSATION...

CREATE A DISTRACTION,

TO CIRCUMVENT THE SERIOUS CONFRONTATION ...THAT CHALLENGED THEIR UNREPENTANT HEART...

IT IS NOT PERTINENT TO GOD'S PLAN OF REDEMPTION...MUCH ADO ABOUT THE

FRIVOLOUS...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#476294 Sep 14, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Your trivia is inconsequential to God's plan of salvation..
Any true Bible student knows that Cain could have married as many wives as he desired to..
The Bible says..
Gen 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and -->he begat sons and daughters:<--
Gen 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
~~~
THE ANSWER IS
No one knows how old Cain was when he went into the Land of Nod
Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
.
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Mean while ADAM AND EVE WERE HAVING MORE CHILDREN...AND THEIR CHILDREN were fruitful.
NO ONE KNOWS HAW MANY GENERATIONS/DESCENDENTS OF ADAM AND EVE WERE UPON THE EARTH WHEN CAIN TOOK HIS WIFE.
___
Note..
IN MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE YEARS
YOUR KIND OF TRIVIA ABOVE ....
IS USUALLY WHAT A PERSON WILL GO TO/ASK WHEN THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE CONVERSATION...
CREATE A DISTRACTION,
TO CIRCUMVENT THE SERIOUS CONFRONTATION ...THAT CHALLENGED THEIR UNREPENTANT HEART...
IT IS NOT PERTINENT TO GOD'S PLAN OF REDEMPTION...MUCH ADO ABOUT THE
FRIVOLOUS...
~~~

SOMETHING PERTINENT TO REDEMPTION FROM GENESIS,

IS

THE FIRST SACRIFICE

OF THE BLOOD OF AN ANIMAL

THAT WAS OFFERED/KILLED

TO COVER MAN'S NAKEDNESS BEFORE GOD/MAN'S SIN...

Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife

did the LORD God make coats of skins,

and clothed them.
truth

Perth, Australia

#476295 Sep 14, 2013
I please you before you not give me answer.

Why you liked genetic CD?

SEE
gan gen gin gon gun
gunj we call cover up with hair which animals or similar soft tree or similar production used for cloth.

Please tell me why?!
Did Creator re-created time and weather as well how?

If Creator created time and weather did they been under test of knowledge because of nakedness or weather hot and cold!
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#476296 Sep 14, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Robert and Clay!
Does Gif's preaching seem unloving to you?
Good Morning marge:

Peace

I find his preaching is one of loving concern.

However it often has a rigid bias, relative to the times in which we live and were taught.

I like the use of scripture, although he might condense it down to a sentence and say it is within the context of Book, Chapter, Verse-to Verse....(That would make easier reading, and digestion.

Now the question of interpersonal skills with me is a bit lacking. I would like to get into subjects a bit more deeply with him, but I just get surface responses. I tend to think it may break his image of what a Catholic is, and might put an end to his "ministry" to convert Catholics. It is sort of like he talks at me, not with me....

I hope this critique doesn't sound to harsh....It is meant as feedback for him to improve what he is doing....
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#476297 Sep 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
Where are the catlicks!!!!!????
The Vatican is ready to open a discussion about whether Catholic priests should be required to remain celibate, the Vatican's newly appointed secretary of state said in an interview with a Venezuelan newspaper.
Question to catlicks....If that requirement is supported by Scripture, and the Word of God does not change, how, then, can they make a change in this requirement and claim it is also supported by Scripture????!!!!
When the catholic CHURCH speaks conservative catholics listen. If the church says NO! to optional celebacy than conservative catholics scream NO!

.....If the catholic church changes the policy and says YES! to optional celebacy then conservative catholics will also change their view with the catholic church and scream YES!.

It doesn't matter what the catholic church changes. Conservative catholics will change with the church never using their OWN personal knowledge to decide.





Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#476298 Sep 14, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Your trivia is inconsequential to God's plan of salvation..
Any true Bible student knows that Cain could have married as many wives as he desired to..
The Bible says..
Gen 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and -->he begat sons and daughters:<--
Gen 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
~~~
THE ANSWER IS
No one knows how old Cain was when he went into the Land of Nod
Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
.
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Mean while ADAM AND EVE WERE HAVING MORE CHILDREN...AND THEIR CHILDREN were fruitful.
NO ONE KNOWS HAW MANY GENERATIONS/DESCENDENTS OF ADAM AND EVE WERE UPON THE EARTH WHEN CAIN TOOK HIS WIFE.
___
Note..
IN MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE YEARS
YOUR KIND OF TRIVIA ABOVE ....
IS USUALLY WHAT A PERSON WILL GO TO/ASK WHEN THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE CONVERSATION...
CREATE A DISTRACTION,
TO CIRCUMVENT THE SERIOUS CONFRONTATION ...THAT CHALLENGED THEIR UNREPENTANT HEART...
IT IS NOT PERTINENT TO GOD'S PLAN OF REDEMPTION...MUCH ADO ABOUT THE
FRIVOLOUS...
Very Perceptive. I learned something.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#476302 Sep 14, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Good Morning marge:
Peace
I find his preaching is one of loving concern.
However it often has a rigid bias, relative to the times in which we live and were taught.
I like the use of scripture, although he might condense it down to a sentence and say it is within the context of Book, Chapter, Verse-to Verse....(That would make easier reading, and digestion.
Now the question of interpersonal skills with me is a bit lacking. I would like to get into subjects a bit more deeply with him, but I just get surface responses. I tend to think it may break his image of what a Catholic is, and might put an end to his "ministry" to convert Catholics. It is sort of like he talks at me, not with me....
I hope this critique doesn't sound to harsh....It is meant as feedback for him to improve what he is doing....
YOU WROTE

I find his preaching is one of loving concern.
However it often has a rigid bias, relative to the times in which we live and were taught.

I APPRECIATE YOUR ASSESSMENT OF MY POST...

I realize I come across harsh at time...

I feel the pressing urgency of the last days upon us...

THAT by necessity I must tell it as it is...

I am a disciple of Jesus, and I attempt to discipline myself to be

obedient to His word.

I BELIEVE IT IS INCUMBENT UPON ALL THAT CLAIM THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR,

TO OBEY HIS WORD AS A LITTLE CHILD..WOULD....

---

FOR TWICE IT IS WRITTEN IN THE SCRIPTURES...

Mar_10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

Luk_18:17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

I believe GOD'S WORD to be the unquestionable standard that is set

for all Christians.

AS ONE POET WROTE IN SONG..

"IT IS NOT MINE TO QUESTION...IT IS BUT MINE.. TO FOLLOW ...THE LEADING OF HIS WORD."


Where He Leads I'll Follow

(Sweet Are The Promise)



Sweet are the promises, kind is the word
Dearer far than any message man ever heard
Pure was the mind of Christ, sinless, I see
He the great example is, and pattern for me

REFRAIN
Where He leads I'll follow
Follow all the way
Follow Jesus ev'ry day

Sweet is the tender love Jesus hath shown
Sweeter far than any love that mortals have known
Kind to the erring one, faithful is He
He the great example is, and pattern for me

REFRAIN
Where He leads I'll follow
Follow all the way
Follow Jesus ev'ry day

REFRAIN
Where He leads I'll follow
Follow all the way
Follow Jesus ev'ry day

List to His loving words, "Come unto me!"
Weary, heavyladen, there is sweet rest for thee
Trust in His promises, faithful and sure
Lean upon the Savior and thy soul is secure

REFRAIN
Where He leads I'll follow
Follow all the way
Follow Jesus ev'ry day

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#476303 Sep 14, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
When the catholic CHURCH speaks conservative catholics listen. If the church says NO! to optional celebacy than conservative catholics scream NO!
.....If the catholic church changes the policy and says YES! to optional celebacy then conservative catholics will also change their view with the catholic church and scream YES!.
It doesn't matter what the catholic church changes. Conservative catholics will change with the church never using their OWN personal knowledge to decide.
Christians follow the teaching of God's Word regards the clergy....

1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1Ti 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

Tit 1:6 ¶ If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

And...Christ made it not a requirement...Peter was definitely married and so were some of the other apostles...

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#476304 Sep 14, 2013
Well here,is a new OLD idea
>A Catholic website this week encouraged its readers not to allow their daughters to go to college because any young woman would be near sin and would “not learn to be a wife and mother.”
In a Sunday article on the Fix the Family website, Raylan Alleman offers “6 Reasons (+2) to NOT Send Your Daughter to College.” Alleman expains that young women “will attract the wrong types of men” at college:“those lazy men who are looking for a mother-figure in a wife are very attracted to this responsible, organized, smart woman who has it all together.”
Alleman adds that daughters should “learn to be a wife and mother” instead of pursuing higher education.“Nothing that is taught in a college curriculum is geared toward domestic homemaking,” he opines.“Stay-at-home mothers are actually very busy industrious women and do absolutely beautiful marvelous things… These abilities cannot be learned in any college.”
Alleman goes on to say that saving for college is also “a near occasion of sin for the parents” because they may be tempted to “avoid having more children with contraception, sterilization, or illicit use of NFP to bear this cost.”“To assume that all of our children will need a college degree is quite a stretch, particularly for girls who will likely be mothers.”

http://www.fix-the-family.com/blog

in the,sixties marriage at graduation was the thing to do..

Now,I must say this,New,idea of co ed firms,and liberal.professors,..is,terrib le ..But the idea,if a young woman not getting a higher education is,terrible also
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#476305 Sep 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Christians follow the teaching of God's Word regards the clergy....
1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
Tit 1:6 ¶ If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
And...Christ made it not a requirement...Peter was definitely married and so were some of the other apostles...
What its really about is keeping control.......yet being hipicritical at the same time.

eg; Church/clergy informs catholics that marriage is one of the most sacred sacraments, and that family is essential for love and happiness, yet the church denies its own clergy this sacrament and their ability to enjoy love and happiness as they preach to others.

Same with the nuns. They too are controlled and not allowed to marry. The church hatched a scheme calling then the brides of Christ or being married to God which makes no common sense to me.

The roman catholic church is all about control, and we all know their control is slipping away as MOST catholics today do not follow the teachings of the church. eg; divorce, abortion, same sex marriage, contraception, attending mandatory sunday mass weekly.

ps I did not give you the negative feedbacks on your last response to me.



Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#476306 Sep 14, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
What its really about is keeping control.......yet being hipicritical at the same time.
eg; Church/clergy informs catholics that marriage is one of the most sacred sacraments, and that family is essential for love and happiness, yet the church denies its own clergy this sacrament and their ability to enjoy love and happiness as they preach to others.
Same with the nuns. They too are controlled and not allowed to marry. The church hatched a scheme calling then the brides of Christ or being married to God which makes no common sense to me.
The roman catholic church is all about control, and we all know their control is slipping away as MOST catholics today do not follow the teachings of the church. eg; divorce, abortion, same sex marriage, contraception, attending mandatory sunday mass weekly.
ps I did not give you the negative feedbacks on your last response to me.
Negative feedback is a reaction that causes a decrease in function because of some kind of stimulus.....

That is way past my apprehension ability!!!!!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#476307 Sep 14, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
HEY EVERYONE..did anyone see a,post from June saying she was,leaving .
It's been at least a week ..
I just looked on one of the atheist forums ..don't see her there .
I pray maybe something we said comes to her IF she is ill ..And opens her heart to the LORD ...
Yes,RoSesz,I agree in a spirit of prayer for JUNE.That the Lord will use many things she has read or heard for His glory.She has to make a decision,but He gives that Increase into her life,and we long in our hearts for her life to be one with her Creator,the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob.We cannot get inside of her mind to convince her of the truth,but He can through the power of His Holy Spirit.

May the Lord richly bless June,and help her to find her true Friend,and Brother who loves her soul with an everlasting love.We know who that is.May the Lord bless you RoSe and your family,that you remain instant and constant for Him.You have a heart of love,that is hy you are concerned about June's life,Praise the Lord,you look beyond what she says,but we know that the LORD is able! Amen!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#476308 Sep 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Pad.
"Understanding our ability to do evil and good is part of that KNOWING of self. Do you agree?"
Yep. Since we get to learn what good and evil is, so we also must learn how to act and be [Self] when these two paths are tobe found in front of us.
One chooses the path - not "God" or "Satan", but the person.
We look within to find our own faults. Jesus taught this and also teaches that we are also the ones that can overcome these difficulties, so they can become successes.
IMO - we can learn about the evils of the world, but it doesn't necessary mean we take action on them, but more precisely, we try to avoid them. In other words, we know it is not right to rob a bank, so we don't - we avoid "sin".
But we also know that it is good to help a child ride a bike - because the child knows it is something they like to do. We avoid what here? In a way, not helping the child will cause the child to be sad and discontent because they don't get to ride. We would avoid those moments, as well as, avoiding the thoughts that we didn't help, when we knew we could.
I know it wasn't the greatest comparison, but I think you understand what I am trying to say.
Good examples, why do you put parenthesis around sin?

I read what was available to the internet concerning the Gospel of Thomas, Nag Hammadi Press.

Is that the full text?

Not that Thomas needed to write the same as the other 4 Apostles who wrote:Matthew,Mark,Luke and John, did Thomas write any narrative as to the life of Jesus at all,or just those statements of what Jesus said?

I find that within what was written,most of what Thomas wrote fits in with the 4 Gospels of the New Testament. Supposedly he(Thomas) quotes Jesus randomly,before His crucifixion and after,kind of thrown together.The style of how it is written is not impressive,than again we do not know what circumstances Thomas(?) was writing under.

I did not copy most of those statements of Jesus,as they resemble almost for Word the same in the 4 Gospels,however I separated the ones that I find of course most controversial.

Number 98 for starters: Jesus said."The Kingdom of the Father is like a person who wanted to kill a powerful person. He drew the sword and his hourse(and) stabbed it into the wall to test whether his hand would be strong (enough), then he killed the powerful one.

A statement like this requires some understanding as to what Jesus was supposedly talking about here? Was He referring to the powerful one as Satan,and the sword did it represent the Word?If NOT,than just what could possibly be holy and sacred about the kingdom of Father in a man taking a sword and killing a powerful person?Surely NASL you have read that,and must have some interpretation for such? Continued:

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