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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 670458 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#475172 Sep 6, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Uhm, okay. I'll take this as a compliment. Thanks!
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Untrue. I call you a liar and hypocrite, because of what you and other so-called "Christians" say.
I'm just making sure you see your own words as I do. Hypocritical and false.
You are the one who think men can define an infallible being, not me. Since you got this from men, I understand completely how deluded you are within and illusion created by those men.
It's not being hypocritical, it is being truthful.
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I do, but since this is a debate forum, stating the RCC is teh true church, I disagree, and have shown plenty of evidence and support to show that they aren't. In fact, the information I've provided clearly shows Christianity as a whole, is false.
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No, I don't. Please explain your version to me, as I jsut did mine above.
Full of Love wrote:
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Your totally clueless.
That is all I have to say to you.
I understand that you have to call others names, because you can't answer the questions. No problem. You can call me anything you wish, as I and you (deep down) know that what you said isn't true.

This is how dismay rears its ugly head. First you refuse to answer the questions asked, and then you wallow in men.

No problem FoL - you are still a hypocrite and liar.

Until you can own this yourself, you will always remain ignorant to what Jesus taught and why he taught it.

Self. Don't you just love the many aspects of it?

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#475173 Sep 6, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I know, I'm only 50% Greek...
Half Greek is good....but still...

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#475174 Sep 6, 2013
left out the word [ligament] in her ankle maybe had been stretched
truth

Perth, Australia

#475175 Sep 6, 2013
stafted strafted oh oh oh giciguciguci gici fixci fixci
is that fixtion fix t ion..

ion is extremely strange
conductor

its mean someone who liked extremely discipline
and very careful strict silence..
its mean invisible mostly para evil program or projection..

but what they don't liked

prophet

please dear God
be good with me

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#475176 Sep 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
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I bring 2000 years of TRUE Church History to support "everything and anything" that the Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church teaches, believes and adheres to-------ALL OF WHICH "debunks and refutes" any and all of the "editorialized and exaggerated anti-catholic "hack written" statistics that comes out of some "remote and obscure website source that you have "dug up"!!!!!
You haven't brought shite....stop patting yourself on the back, you'll strain your shoulder muscles.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#475177 Sep 6, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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The "true gospel" you say.
So with you stating this, then you also have a text of some sort by "God" specifically stating which texts are of "His inspiration" and those which are not.
Right?
Or did you just add the qualifier to appease your own mind, because you don't follow the "true gospel" as Jesus expressed?
So, either all scripture is divinely inspired, only some are divinely inspired, or none are divinely inspired.

You've decided which are inspired and which are not, while simultaneously flogging your opponent with demands to show you why his conclusions are valid, based upon your proclamation that he's wrong.

Circular logic.

You haven't actually deigned to tell us why the Canonic gospels aren't an authentic/complete collection of divinely inspired text. And, no, the mere existence of the Gospel of Thomas et.al. isn't proof.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#475178 Sep 6, 2013
huskerdu wrote:
<quoted text>Catholics for choice are excommunicated in my diocese, the leading member just died recently and did not have a Catholic funeral or burial, his service was in a museum and he was cremated. Contraception is considered evil , there is good and then there is evil, nothing in between.
You all have a new Bishop, right?

I know Bruskiewicz excommunicated them-apparently the new guy held that out as well.
truth

Perth, Australia

#475180 Sep 6, 2013
w altonomich..really nikich pikic

no no no
its all against king
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lasta borovic tiny black bird wigelly as selica=travel in spring usually have nest under roof

you are borrowing time
money and many things over what and whom as well why?
mr and mrs robic where is your grobic=as graveyard
kra kra vra vrag..money is funny for what as well why..killich is skiljich=winker no eye not working very well..i see today in church man and look after euharistic because of some evil eye..

are you for sure dear God they are not pretending..
yeppppppppppppppppppppppp
robic=is tiny so so so tiny bird red under neck..yep
describe as graveyard..killer

why
who when where for what?
Michael

Canada

#475181 Sep 6, 2013
huskerdu wrote:
<quoted text>Catholics for choice are excommunicated in my diocese, the leading member just died recently and did not have a Catholic funeral or burial, his service was in a museum and he was cremated. Contraception is considered evil , there is good and then there is evil, nothing in between.
We all know that thousands of roman catholic priests/bishops some probably from your own diocese raped many thousands of our children and cost the followers Billions $$ in settlements.

.... How many of them were ex-communicated? How many Bishops/Cardinals who lied/deceived and covered up these worst of sins were ex-communicated. ZERO!

I rest my case!

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#475182 Sep 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>God blesses those who choose to pray for others because they love them.
even oldjg prayed for that young girl, while you sat over in the devils chair acting SMART like you always do.
you in the last few months have came out of the devils closet and showed your true colors.
now you can attack the catholic church on this Forum, but that doesn't fool the rest of we Christians, YOU ARE NOT ON OUR SIDE.
this is the same young girl who gave a testimony to her young school friends and you mocked it over a Capitalization or lack of.
and it would have pleased the devil a lot if she had been seriously hurt or killed, there would have went a great testimony lost. it behooves ALL Christians to pray for these young children, in this world that we live in and in our near future, they are going to need a Close Relationship with the Lord to Survive, physically and mentally.
SO OXBORE, YOU CONTINUE TO MOCK HER AND CHOOSE NOT TO PRAY FOR HER, BUT SOMEDAY, THE TABLES MAY BE TURNED AND IT WILL BE YOU WWHO HAS A LOVED ONE THAT HAS JUST BEEN SAVED OR INJURED AND YOU NEED TO ASK OTHERS TO PRAY FOR THEM.
Do I Need to ask other to pray for her when I can ask Him Myself. the answer is NO! I know that He hears me, but if I ask others to pray, one of them might get the answer from God and that answer gives them the strength to go on. We Never know. so why should I stay silent and maybe knock them out of a Blessing from God.
and the Good thing about this Walk is this. Wed night as I walked into church, a Sister said to me. "Preston, you were on my mind last night and I prayed for you". so yeah, I was worried for my Babe, and God knew that and He laid it upon someone to Pray for me. but I know that the actual request made by the Holy Spirit was for her, not really for me.
That is how God works for each of us that Loves Him. So Oxbore, your words don't affect me, I know God loves me and nothing that the devil and you can say to me, will change or affect that.
As Christians whether Catholic, Orthodox ,Protestants etc. we should ALL come together in prayer when someone is in need of prayer.The comfort of knowing that others care enough for you to pray for you, no matter what their faith is, is spiritually powerful.I know. It was a huge comfort to me when Nick was near death.I pray that your granddaughter is recovering and that we should ALL put our differences aside when someone else is in pain and suffering.It is what Christ would have us to do. I say this with an open heart...
Michael

Canada

#475183 Sep 6, 2013
Dan wrote:
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So, either all scripture is divinely inspired, only some are divinely inspired, or none are divinely inspired.
You've decided which are inspired and which are not, while simultaneously flogging your opponent with demands to show you why his conclusions are valid, based upon your proclamation that he's wrong.
Circular logic.
You haven't actually deigned to tell us why the Canonic gospels aren't an authentic/complete collection of divinely inspired text. And, no, the mere existence of the Gospel of Thomas et.al. isn't proof.
By what evidence were the scriptures declared inspired words of God? Didn't the church throw out and burn more scriptures than what is known today? Weren't they too divinely inspired by God?

Back in the day a few people were pulling all the strings, just as the strings are pulled today.

UNBELIEVABLE!
truth

Perth, Australia

#475184 Sep 6, 2013
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Dan

Omaha, NE

#475185 Sep 6, 2013
Michael wrote:
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We all know that thousands of roman catholic priests/bishops some probably from your own diocese raped many thousands of our children and cost the followers Billions $$ in settlements.
.... How many of them were ex-communicated? How many Bishops/Cardinals who lied/deceived and covered up these worst of sins were ex-communicated. ZERO!
I rest my case!
May of 1994, the Diocese of Lincoln paid a $40,000 settlement on an abuse claim. One alleged victim.

That's it.

Catholics for Choice, whom you're so fond of, have enabled the wholesale slaughter of 50 million human lives since 1973.

Your case rests, alright.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#475186 Sep 6, 2013
Michael wrote:
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By what evidence were the scriptures declared inspired words of God? Didn't the church throw out and burn more scriptures than what is known today? Weren't they too divinely inspired by God?
Back in the day a few people were pulling all the strings, just as the strings are pulled today.
UNBELIEVABLE!
By Church councils.

No, they didn't burn piles of scripture.

Speaking of "pulling strings", aren't you pulling everyone's chain here all day long?
Michael

Canada

#475187 Sep 6, 2013
huskerdu wrote:
<quoted text>Catholics for choice are excommunicated in my diocese, the leading member just died recently and did not have a Catholic funeral or burial, his service was in a museum and he was cremated. Contraception is considered evil , there is good and then there is evil, nothing in between.
Contraception is considered evil you say, yet upwards of 82% of roman catholics have used or use contraceptives and say they are morally OK.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/154799/americans-i...

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Catholic women and abortions. More roman catholic women have abortions performed per 1,000 women in america than protestant or non believers.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Catholic/2001...

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1,700 years of sexual abuse by many catholic clergy. They even have canon laws about it that go back to the 3rd century..........and we just found out about it in the last few years!!

http://www.awrsipe.com/patrick_wall/executive...

ITS APPARENT TO ALL! THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS LOST COMPLETE CONTROL OF ITS FOLLOWERS..........

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#475188 Sep 6, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

The "true gospel" you say.

So with you stating this, then you also have a text of some sort by "God" specifically stating which texts are of "His inspiration" and those which are not.

Right?

Or did you just add the qualifier to appease your own mind, because you don't follow the "true gospel" as Jesus expressed?
Dan wrote:
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So, either all scripture is divinely inspired, only some are divinely inspired, or none are divinely inspired.
Yes - do you have where "God" stated such?
Dan wrote:
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You've decided which are inspired and which are not, while simultaneously flogging your opponent with demands to show you why his conclusions are valid, based upon your proclamation that he's wrong.
No, you are incorrect. I beleive all texts are "God" inspired.

You on the other hand accept what men have deemed as such, thus only have a portion of what was inspired. Well, that is if "God" even stated any text was inspired.

I've searched many texts, and not one statement from "God" expressing such inspiration. Which tells me, either they all are, or none of them are.

What about you - can you show me where "God" has specifically stated which texts are inspired and which are not?

Or are you going to play along with every other so-called "Christian" and continue to divert from answering, as you are doing here?
Dan wrote:
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Circular logic.
You are not one to speak of circular logic, when your belief falls within that category completely.
Dan wrote:
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You haven't actually deigned to tell us why the Canonic gospels aren't an authentic/complete collection of divinely inspired text. And, no, the mere existence of the Gospel of Thomas et.al. isn't proof.
Am I supposed to? Why should I? I didn't choose them to be inspired, other men did. I refute their claim.

I guess I am more honest than you are in many regards concerning Christianity.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#475189 Sep 6, 2013
Michael wrote:
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Contraception is considered evil you say, yet upwards of 82% of roman catholics have used or use contraceptives and say they are morally OK.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/154799/americans-i...
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Catholic women and abortions. More roman catholic women have abortions performed per 1,000 women in america than protestant or non believers.
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Catholic/2001...
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1,700 years of sexual abuse by many catholic clergy. They even have canon laws about it that go back to the 3rd century..........and we just found out about it in the last few years!!
http://www.awrsipe.com/patrick_wall/executive...
ITS APPARENT TO ALL! THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS LOST COMPLETE CONTROL OF ITS FOLLOWERS..........
It's apparent to all that you think it a novelty that people don't follow all the rules of their religious teachings.
It's not a novelty. News must travel slow up to Canada.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#475190 Sep 6, 2013
Dan wrote:
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No, they didn't burn piles of scripture.
yes they did.

Why do you try to deny this fact?

You don't have to hide from honesty Dan.

Manichean and Christian scriptures (by Diocletian)[edit source | editbeta]The Diocletianic Persecution started on March 31, 302, with the Roman Emperor Diocletian, in a rescript from Alexandria, ordering that the leading Manicheans be burnt alive along with their scriptures.[19] This was the first time a Roman Imperial persecution ever called for the destruction of sacred literature.[20] On the following year, on February 23, 303, Diocletian ordered that the newly built Christian church at Nicomedia be razed, its scriptures burned, and its treasures seized.[21] Later persecutions included the burning of both the Christians themselves and of their books. As related in later Christian Hagiography, at that time the governor of Valencia offered the deacon who would become known as Saint Vincent of Saragossa to have his life spared in exchange for his consigning Scripture to the fire. Vincent refused and let himself be executed instead. In religious paintings he is often depicted holding the book whose preservation he preferred to his own life (see illustration in Saint Vincent of Saragossa page.)[22]

Books of Arianism (after Council of Nicaea)[edit source | editbeta]
Burning of Arian books at Nicaea (illustration from a compendium of canon law, ca. 825, MS. in the Capitular Library, Vercelli)The books of Arius and his followers, after the first Council of Nicaea (325 C.E.), were burned for heresy by the roman emperor Theodosius I who published a decree commanding that, "the doctrine of the Trinity should be embraced by those who would be called catholics; that all others should bear the infamous name of heretics".[23] Arius was exiled and presumably assassinated following this, and Arian books continued to be regularly burned into the 330s.[24]

Library of Antioch (by Jovian)[edit source | editbeta]In 364, the Christian Emperor Jovian ordered the entire Library of Antioch to be burnt.[25] It had been heavily stocked by the aid of his non-Christian predecessor, Emperor Julian.

"Unacceptable writings" (by Athanasius)[edit source | editbeta]Elaine Pagels claims that in 367, Athanasius ordered monks in the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria in his role as bishop of Alexandria to destroy all "unacceptable writings" in Egypt, the list of writings to be saved constituting the New Testament.[26]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_book_bur...
Michael

Canada

#475191 Sep 6, 2013
Dan wrote:
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May of 1994, the Diocese of Lincoln paid a $40,000 settlement on an abuse claim. One alleged victim.
That's it.
Catholics for Choice, whom you're so fond of, have enabled the wholesale slaughter of 50 million human lives since 1973.
Your case rests, alright.
Data Base of accused roman catholic priests from the two dioceses in NEBRASKA.

http://bishop-accountability.org/member/psear...

http://bishop-accountability.org/member/psear...

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Here is the BIG PICTURE in the US alone, sexually abusive priests convicted/accused in all 50 states, and even these numbers aren't current. Pick a state, pick a diocese and read the disgusting stories often multiple abuses of our children.

http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/Pri...

Isn't it time Dan you stopped defending criminals and started demanding accountability?

Evidentally not!

I bring the truth, the truth catholics don't want to know.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#475192 Sep 6, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
The "true gospel" you say.
So with you stating this, then you also have a text of some sort by "God" specifically stating which texts are of "His inspiration" and those which are not.
Right?
Or did you just add the qualifier to appease your own mind, because you don't follow the "true gospel" as Jesus expressed?
<quoted text>
Yes - do you have where "God" stated such?
<quoted text>
No, you are incorrect. I beleive all texts are "God" inspired.
You on the other hand accept what men have deemed as such, thus only have a portion of what was inspired. Well, that is if "God" even stated any text was inspired.
I've searched many texts, and not one statement from "God" expressing such inspiration. Which tells me, either they all are, or none of them are.
What about you - can you show me where "God" has specifically stated which texts are inspired and which are not?
Or are you going to play along with every other so-called "Christian" and continue to divert from answering, as you are doing here?
<quoted text>
You are not one to speak of circular logic, when your belief falls within that category completely.
<quoted text>
Am I supposed to? Why should I? I didn't choose them to be inspired, other men did. I refute their claim.
I guess I am more honest than you are in many regards concerning Christianity.
"I beleive all texts are "God" inspired."

Show me a text of some sort by "God" specifically stating that God says that all texts are inspired.

See how that works?

Texts do not interpret themselves. People have to do that.

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