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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 690389 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474654 Sep 3, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong it all began and started with God the Father,.
Because of His Grace and Mercy, salvation was never humans idea it was God's . Read Eph 2.
One must do something to attain this information or enlightenment.

Please state to me why "God" specifically chose you for one to receive "His Grace and Mercy".

Please support your claim with some something other than your opinion. Article? Video? Eye-witness?

BTW LTM - you seem intelligent enough. Please state where "God" specifically states that certain texts are inspired and which are not.

Thanks for reading my post.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474655 Sep 3, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong it all began and started with God the Father,.
Because of His Grace and Mercy, salvation was never humans idea it was God's . Read Eph 2.
Oh yeah - I meant to add this important note, you have seemed to miss:

"Paul's gospel" - as he calls it - is not Jesus' teaching.

Why do you think "Paul" is more enlightened than Jesus?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#474656 Sep 3, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
God had a reason to Create a man and a woman. Quote: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
There is only one way that will happen...intercourse must happen...to discuss this event, that has the blessing of God, is not making a tabloid subject OUT OF MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS...
Get your mind out of the gutter!!!!!
~~~

You would like to draw any one here

that will respond into more porn discussion ..

.now would you not...?

Well I aint going there...

The Bible says...

Php 4:8 Finally, brethren,

whatsoever things are true,

whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just,

whatsoever things are pure,

whatsoever things are lovely,

whatsoever things are of good report;

if there be any virtue, and

if there be any praise, think on these things.

I my mind is in the gutter...

where is your mind...

The sewer????

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474657 Sep 3, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
My thought is that they didn't even name themselves ..just did discipleship from their villages ..And some escaped persecution .
At some point Waldo joined them ..And that's where a lot if the history comes from
It stands to reason that some folks,touched by the original disciples
Did not join organized religion ..there was no phone ..no internet ..there were people outside of the government ..which was closely allied with the RCC ..
Especially Rome ..
I watched ..I think the first two ..I think there are four altogether
I have to go further .
Thing is most history .is,written by the victors ..And the big guys :)
Let me know what you find ..God bless you ..
How many of the Original Apostles to you accept as viable teachers?

There were 13 as "it is written".
Pad

Rockford, IL

#474658 Sep 3, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Pad, do you believe in OSAS? From what I can tell, the Born Agains are equally divided. That's not good. Truly I am not trying to rub your faces in this. But I believe this is a serious problem because one side is undoing the word of God.
You would agree with that, right? Please don't sweep it under the computer like its no big deal. This subject was taught by the Apostles. The word of God was revealed and now some of you obviously changed it.
Clay,we become a new creation in Christ when we are converted.2 Corinthians 5:17. The fact is we are converted,and changed by the Grace of God,when we give ourselves to the Living Christ. That new life is sealed unto Redemption.But we also have the Lord Jesus say Himself that "He who endures to the end will be saved."Our salvation in Christ NEVER is threatened by the world,and Satan,while we are abiding in Christ.

To abide in Christ we must be determined to live for Him,Love Him,communicate with Him every day,and so on.However that is not always the case with so many people who come to the Lord.They stray.

Straying is not the end of one's salvation,either is temptation the end of one's salvation,because Jesus was tempted.But what threatens a person's salvation is the willful departing from the faith.A person let's say who was a believer,and than abandons their faith and decides to be atheist or return to their sin with a vengeance,denying God with a full heart.

The trouble is if that person never opens up their heart to God,repents and returns to the LOVER of their Soul,they have rejected the only source of their salvation and deliverance.So how if before they ever were converted they basically were destined to an eternity without God,how can they expect that if they reject and abhor the Living God,and never repent and die in that sinful state,can salvation be theirs? The New Creation in Christ is complete in the Resurrection.A person's will to finally abandon God and return to their VOMIT leaves them stripped of the salvation they once knew.That is why we always preach that Repentance is needed every day,we must ask God to forgive daily.We must die daily.

Salvation was not obtained in a cheap way,and we cannot expect that if we decide to no longer be saved,and to purposely destroy that gift we received,than salvation is no longer available,UNLESS that person does repent and become renewed in the Spirit and Love of the Savior.

I do not believe that a person who truly believes and has experienced God,that they will refuse to repent of sin and be made clean by the LORD who purchased them with a great price.

Nevertheless, we are given a Free Will,and within that sphere of human action,we either live for Him or reject Him.We compel people to always confess their sins,and to repent,why do that if a person can recklessly continue in their sin,and yet be saved no matter what?Personally Clay,I do not like the phrase Once Saved Always Saved,it has a smug prideful air to it.But on the other hand,we can rejoice in what Christ has done,and that He saves to the uttermost,and He says "IF we abide in Him,He will abide with us." The Free Will is there right to the end.That does not take one ounce of Power from the message of the Cross,and What our Lord did for us all!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#474659 Sep 3, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Clay,we become a new creation in Christ when we are converted.2 Corinthians 5:17. The fact is we are converted,and changed by the Grace of God,when we give ourselves to the Living Christ. That new life is sealed unto Redemption.But we also have the Lord Jesus say Himself that "He who endures to the end will be saved."Our salvation in Christ NEVER is threatened by the world,and Satan,while we are abiding in Christ.
To abide in Christ we must be determined to live for Him,Love Him,communicate with Him every day,and so on.However that is not always the case with so many people who come to the Lord.They stray.
Straying is not the end of one's salvation,either is temptation the end of one's salvation,because Jesus was tempted.But what threatens a person's salvation is the willful departing from the faith.A person let's say who was a believer,and than abandons their faith and decides to be atheist or return to their sin with a vengeance,denying God with a full heart.
The trouble is if that person never opens up their heart to God,repents and returns to the LOVER of their Soul,they have rejected the only source of their salvation and deliverance.So how if before they ever were converted they basically were destined to an eternity without God,how can they expect that if they reject and abhor the Living God,and never repent and die in that sinful state,can salvation be theirs? The New Creation in Christ is complete in the Resurrection.A person's will to finally abandon God and return to their VOMIT leaves them stripped of the salvation they once knew.That is why we always preach that Repentance is needed every day,we must ask God to forgive daily.We must die daily.
Salvation was not obtained in a cheap way,and we cannot expect that if we decide to no longer be saved,and to purposely destroy that gift we received,than salvation is no longer available,UNLESS that person does repent and become renewed in the Spirit and Love of the Savior.
I do not believe that a person who truly believes and has experienced God,that they will refuse to repent of sin and be made clean by the LORD who purchased them with a great price.
Nevertheless, we are given a Free Will,and within that sphere of human action,we either live for Him or reject Him.We compel people to always confess their sins,and to repent,why do that if a person can recklessly continue in their sin,and yet be saved no matter what?Personally Clay,I do not like the phrase Once Saved Always Saved,it has a smug prideful air to it.But on the other hand,we can rejoice in what Christ has done,and that He saves to the uttermost,and He says "IF we abide in Him,He will abide with us." The Free Will is there right to the end.That does not take one ounce of Power from the message of the Cross,and What our Lord did for us all!
Repeating it over and over again, will not make it true, except for yourself.

Been reading too many of hojo's posts, huh?

:o)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#474660 Sep 3, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Pad, do you believe in OSAS? From what I can tell, the Born Agains are equally divided. That's not good. Truly I am not trying to rub your faces in this. But I believe this is a serious problem because one side is undoing the word of God.
You would agree with that, right? Please don't sweep it under the computer like its no big deal. This subject was taught by the Apostles. The word of God was revealed and now some of you obviously changed it.
~~~

You Roman Catholics claim that you do not believe in eternal security...

but you go so far that you believe in no security at all...

Since you don't believe in being obedient to Jesus and

Being Born again..

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

I can understand why you can't promise any one in the Roman Catholic Church that they can know they have eternal life ..

Because of the quandary you live in.... by disregarding Jesus' words,

you can't take hold of the GOLDEN TEXT... of the Bible.

which says....

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

and claim it as you own...

YOU HAVE NO SECURITY ...CONDITIONAL (WHICH I BELIEVE IN)

OR UNCONDITIONAL... WHICH IS THE O S A S

ALL YOU OFFER IS A DEAD END STREET...OR RELIGIOUS BINGO

Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#474661 Sep 3, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly ..personal decision to believe by Faith through the FREE gift of Grace ..
Nit dispensed by any one But our Lord And Saviour Jesus,Christ
True Rose, but it also raises many questions;

1. Exactly HOW does He dispense it?
2. If there are disagreements as to how, WHO decides? It can't be the bible because people disagree as to what the bible says about it.
3. If someone says it's the Holy Spirit telling them, how do you decide between a different person who says the Holy Spirit tells them something else?

This is where Sacred Tradition comes in. What did those who were taught by the apostles say? And those they taught?
Pad

Rockford, IL

#474662 Sep 3, 2013
OldJG wrote:
For our Roman Catholic friends.
If a person can lose their salvation as AnthonyMN as indicated, did Peter lose his salvation when he denied Jesus 3 times? If not, why not? Actually, Peter denied Jesus 3 more times later.
Have you noticed the contrast when you look at the Greek words for “love” used in John 21:15-17. When Jesus asked Peter “do you love me?” in John 21:15-16, He used the Greek word AGAPE which refers to unconditional love. Both times, Peter responded with “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you,” using the Greek word PHILEO which refers more to a friendship type of love. It seems that Jesus is trying to get Peter to understand that he must love Jesus unconditionally in order to be the leader God is calling him to be. The third time Jesus asks “do you love me?” in John 21:17, He uses the word PHILEO, and Peter again responds with “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you,” again using PHILEO.
The first two times Jesus asks Peter, "Do you AGAPE me"? And both times Peter tells Jesus, AGAPE, no Lord, but PHILEO, yes. Finally, Jesus asks Peter a third time but does not use the word AGAPE but Jesus uses the word PHILEO.
Peter NEVER told Jesus he loved him with unconditional love. However, he did tell Jesus, Lord I am your buddy.
Several denials even after seeing the resurrected Jesus. Did Peter lose his salvation? If he didn't, who did?
When did Jesus breathe on the Apostles,the Holy Spirit?

Non of the Apostles really knew Jesus in the born-again experience we know until Jesus breathed on them,and that was later sealed by the Baptism in the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.Was Judas saved?

Peter's denial of Jesus could very well have stayed as a stubborn seed in his life,had not he willingly joined with the other Apostles and hid with them in the upper room.Peter saw that Jesus was not in the tomb,and was it not possible that he believed Mary of Magdella was telling the truth about seeing Yeshua in the garden by the tomb?

Peter was not saved and never to lose his salvation,when he denied Christ 3 times.Because he was blinded spiritually by the events of that day,and the whole world seemed to crumble around him.Yes he knew that Jesus was sent from the Father,but he did not know that Jesus would resurrect from the dead,WHY?

All that Jesus died for cannot be brought to naught by our will to ultimately reject Him.He gave us a free will,and that never leaves us our whole life time.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#474663 Sep 3, 2013
OldJG wrote:
For our Roman Catholic friends.
If a person can lose their salvation as AnthonyMN as indicated, did Peter lose his salvation when he denied Jesus 3 times? If not, why not? Actually, Peter denied Jesus 3 more times later.
Have you noticed the contrast when you look at the Greek words for “love” used in John 21:15-17. When Jesus asked Peter “do you love me?” in John 21:15-16, He used the Greek word AGAPE which refers to unconditional love. Both times, Peter responded with “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you,” using the Greek word PHILEO which refers more to a friendship type of love. It seems that Jesus is trying to get Peter to understand that he must love Jesus unconditionally in order to be the leader God is calling him to be. The third time Jesus asks “do you love me?” in John 21:17, He uses the word PHILEO, and Peter again responds with “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you,” again using PHILEO.
The first two times Jesus asks Peter, "Do you AGAPE me"? And both times Peter tells Jesus, AGAPE, no Lord, but PHILEO, yes. Finally, Jesus asks Peter a third time but does not use the word AGAPE but Jesus uses the word PHILEO.
Peter NEVER told Jesus he loved him with unconditional love. However, he did tell Jesus, Lord I am your buddy.
Several denials even after seeing the resurrected Jesus. Did Peter lose his salvation? If he didn't, who did?
It's not just me who says you can turn away from God and lose your salvation, most bible alone protestants sat it too.

Did St. Peter lose his salvation? No serious Christian believes that.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#474664 Sep 3, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
How many of the Original Apostles to you accept as viable teachers?
There were 13 as "it is written".
~~~
JUST TRIVIA..NOTHING MORE... ONLY INFORMATION...
DON'T YOU EVER HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE TO OFFER ?
Pad

Rockford, IL

#474665 Sep 3, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Repeating it over and over again, will not make it true, except for yourself.
Been reading too many of hojo's posts, huh?
:o)
Your right kind of repetitive,but you know NASL,sometimes things have to be expounded,especially that which is so important for men's souls,and their lives. What do you believe concerning our destiny,why have you never shared that with us?

You attack us,and tell us we are wrong,but you fail to honestly share the way of salvation for humanity.Share it!
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#474666 Sep 3, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Clay,we become a new creation in Christ when we are converted.2 Corinthians 5:17. The fact is we are converted,and changed by the Grace of God,when we give ourselves to the Living Christ. That new life is sealed unto Redemption.But we also have the Lord Jesus say Himself that "He who endures to the end will be saved."Our salvation in Christ NEVER is threatened by the world,and Satan,while we are abiding in Christ.
To abide in Christ we must be determined to live for Him,Love Him,communicate with Him every day,and so on.However that is not always the case with so many people who come to the Lord.They stray.
Straying is not the end of one's salvation,either is temptation the end of one's salvation,because Jesus was tempted.But what threatens a person's salvation is the willful departing from the faith.A person let's say who was a believer,and than abandons their faith and decides to be atheist or return to their sin with a vengeance,denying God with a full heart.
The trouble is if that person never opens up their heart to God,repents and returns to the LOVER of their Soul,they have rejected the only source of their salvation and deliverance.So how if before they ever were converted they basically were destined to an eternity without God,how can they expect that if they reject and abhor the Living God,and never repent and die in that sinful state,can salvation be theirs? The New Creation in Christ is complete in the Resurrection.A person's will to finally abandon God and return to their VOMIT leaves them stripped of the salvation they once knew.That is why we always preach that Repentance is needed every day,we must ask God to forgive daily.We must die daily.
Salvation was not obtained in a cheap way,and we cannot expect that if we decide to no longer be saved,and to purposely destroy that gift we received,than salvation is no longer available,UNLESS that person does repent and become renewed in the Spirit and Love of the Savior.
I do not believe that a person who truly believes and has experienced God,that they will refuse to repent of sin and be made clean by the LORD who purchased them with a great price.
Nevertheless, we are given a Free Will,and within that sphere of human action,we either live for Him or reject Him.We compel people to always confess their sins,and to repent,why do that if a person can recklessly continue in their sin,and yet be saved no matter what?Personally Clay,I do not like the phrase Once Saved Always Saved,it has a smug prideful air to it.But on the other hand,we can rejoice in what Christ has done,and that He saves to the uttermost,and He says "IF we abide in Him,He will abide with us." The Free Will is there right to the end.That does not take one ounce of Power from the message of the Cross,and What our Lord did for us all!
So you are against OSAS, I think. A person could be 'saved'.... that is, receive the grace of God and experience the Holy Spirit , but later fall into sin and ultimately handing back the free gift of salvation from the Lord.

The problem is that Evangelicals are divided on this. That is not good. One side has changed the teachings from the Apostles.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#474667 Sep 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
You Roman Catholics claim that you do not believe in eternal security...
but you go so far that you believe in no security at all...
Since you don't believe in being obedient to Jesus and
Being Born again..
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
I can understand why you can't promise any one in the Roman Catholic Church that they can know they have eternal life ..
Because of the quandary you live in.... by disregarding Jesus' words,
you can't take hold of the GOLDEN TEXT... of the Bible.
which says....
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
and claim it as you own...
YOU HAVE NO SECURITY ...CONDITIONAL (WHICH I BELIEVE IN)
OR UNCONDITIONAL... WHICH IS THE O S A S
ALL YOU OFFER IS A DEAD END STREET...OR RELIGIOUS BINGO
Ok, I give up. I'm really confused now. I thought you- the mighty preacher and authority on scripture- rejected OSAS. Yet you ridicule me for rejecting it? What gives?

Some of your teammates have rejected the word of God. They've changed the teachings of the Apostles and sealed their fate. Why don't you be a righteous preacher and call them back to truth?

Instead, you turn your attention to the Roman Catholic Church; that barbaric Roman dynasty; that Whore of Babylon.*shakes head*

what you ought to be doing is correcting your fellow evangelicals for undoing the will of the Lord.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#474668 Sep 3, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
True Rose, but it also raises many questions;
1. Exactly HOW does He dispense it?
2. If there are disagreements as to how, WHO decides? It can't be the bible because people disagree as to what the bible says about it.
3. If someone says it's the Holy Spirit telling them, how do you decide between a different person who says the Holy Spirit tells them something else?
This is where Sacred Tradition comes in. What did those who were taught by the apostles say? And those they taught?
~~~

IT IS A SHAME THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD DIED WHEN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS INVENTED...

THAT ALL HEAVEN STOPPED

AND NOW ALL WE HAVE

IS A UNGODLY RELIGIOUS SYSTEM IN ROME ITALY..

TO PLAY THE HEAVENLY LOTTO/BINGO... UPON WHOM IT IS THAT WILL RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE....

I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU ...JESUS AROSE FROM THE GRAVE

HE IS STILL ALIVE, AND HE IS STILL IN CONTROL...

ONLY SONS ARE HEIRS.

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

SONS OF GOD...ARE THOSE THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED THE NEW BIRTH...

THEY ARE NEW CREATURES IN CHRIST JESUS...

2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN REGENERATED

FOR US WHO'S SPIRITS HAVE BEEN REDEEMED AND ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE REDEMPTION OF OUR BODIES.

Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Rom 8:23 ==> And not only they,

but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit,

even we ourselves groan within ourselves,

waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. <==

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#474669 Sep 3, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, I give up. I'm really confused now. I thought you- the mighty preacher and authority on scripture- rejected OSAS. Yet you ridicule me for rejecting it? What gives?
Some of your teammates have rejected the word of God. They've changed the teachings of the Apostles and sealed their fate. Why don't you be a righteous preacher and call them back to truth?
Instead, you turn your attention to the Roman Catholic Church; that barbaric Roman dynasty; that Whore of Babylon.*shakes head*
what you ought to be doing is correcting your fellow evangelicals for undoing the will of the Lord.
~~~

YOU WROTE
Ok, I give up. I'm really confused now.

UNTIL YOU DO YOUR FIRST WORKS ...YOU HAVE NOTHING TO GIVE UP..

Rev_2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place,

except thou repent.

JESUS SAID

Mar_16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Joh_10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

Act_2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

iT DOES NoT SAY ..

he that jumps through all of the hoops of the Roman Catholic church

`shall be saved..

IT SAYS..

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.


Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
truth

Perth, Australia

#474670 Sep 3, 2013
god nothing promise if going remove..
no

We speaking about real Creator!

Many many many will come in my name its not me.
How many masters lords gods..its pure indication that they doing what ever they liked.

deceivers and possessors to..many say why not..

In beginning Jesus have followers ..first discipline as Apostolic then alive followers..

Did Jesus told them i am going where you can't go?
truth

Perth, Australia

#474671 Sep 3, 2013
yes many died and have horrible life too..
its corupt in within..all church liked hide..but they can't hide nothing at all
fulfillment coming from believers and purity of souls of them..now you are who with your explanation..nothing..
many people pray from generation up to generations 1000 years..did someone hear that prayers
no

hierarchy as well others are ow-full defenders and spiteful on everyone who ever they don't liked..
Holy Scripture explain holy wars in heaven as well on Earth..is some..
now why i am wrong others better..
Patriot

Denver, CO

#474672 Sep 3, 2013
Crosses

Before Christianity adopted the cross as its emblem, it was a pagan symbol for the sun-god Ra, and signified the perfect union of male and female energy.(The original crosses had equal length axes).

The Roman Emperor, Constantine, was a practicing sun-worshipping pagan, so perhaps the Roman Empire's adoption of Christianity as its main religion and consequently, the cross its main symbol, was of no coincidence...

Something to look into.
truth

Perth, Australia

#474673 Sep 3, 2013
Modern technology and geometric symbols any shape as well tiny addiction can destroy anything on this planet.

How you going control anger as well addiction as pleasure in great number?
read
-I am your God don't have another
-my anger is not for ever
- please dear god hold us in your wounds until your anger past

Who say that?

see alphabetic letters=why you think you are educated with that?

any does meter which one from any place of this world..no sense ones you liked next don't liked..

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