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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 695421 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#473086 Aug 26, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
The fristrations of Christianity.
hojo wrote:
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Yes!!! Bible only Christianity!!!
No - "hojo-ism" - which is a fairly new uncataloged denomination within Catholicism.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#473087 Aug 26, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Re-read Clays statement: He "did not" say that its either the Catholic faith or nothing......period!!
What he DID SAY is that its either the Catholic faith or nothing, WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRUTH!!----and he is right!
The Protestant Reformation (reformist) "hacks" REJECTED the fullness of the TRUTH, beginning with Luther when he "discarded 7 books of the original bible (from the canon of scriptures by the Early Church Fathers in 397AD. Then Zwingli "discarded and threw out" the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, John 6:47-59. Then other Protestant reformers, Wycliff, Hus,Beza, Calvin, Cranmer, Hedio, Tyndale, Petri, and on and on EACH "threw out" something else that they didn't (personally) like in order to form another Protestant denomination.....Protestants (have rejected) the first 1500 years of The FULLNESS of the FAITH and the FULLNESS of the TRUTH........ Protestant "fundies" systematically (for over 450 years) have basically "rejected" the TRUTH and are left with NOTHING but a hodge=podge of 42,000+ contradicting, and inconsistent "relative truth" Protestant denominations in which EACH INDIVIDUALS "personal opinion" is the final authority. An (conflicting( authority that has "absolutely no basis" of ANY biblical or historical truth "what-so-ever", to back up ANYTHING that they teach!!!!!!In other words, it is NOTHING but a "mish-mash"---" rif-raf" of "half-truth, half-heresy (so-called) Christianity!!!!!!!
Distressed hojo?*sighs*

Hey everyone - hojo needs a HUG!!!!

*HUG*
Just Sayin

Mount Juliet, TN

#473088 Aug 26, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>well, I don't have to but I will help you out.
Definition of SECULAR. 1. a: of or relating to the worldly or temporal
and some of those great buildings(secular) will some day fall down and return to the dust from whence they came.
The Church is first and foremost the antidote to secularism. Most of the brilliant architecture, soul-moving music, insightful literature (including the Bible), beautiful art, and scientific advancements which the world has enjoyed for centuries has come from the Catholic Church.

There is no coincidence here.

God works His graces through matter as most obviously evident by His Incarnation. And His Church also uses matter to illuminate God's revelation to the world.
Oxbow

Westlake, LA

#473089 Aug 26, 2013
The Bible teaches not that the church Christ built was a denomination, such as the Roman Catholic Church.

Pure logic:
denomnation: A large group of religious congregations united under a common faith and name and organized under a single administrative and legal hierarchy.

The Roman Catholic church is a denomination of the Christian faith. Christ built not any...none...zilich denominations...He built His church.

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

church: ekklesia, a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.

Therefore...any....bar none...Christian congregation or an assembly of, is the church Christ built.

The NABre poop arroved Catlick bible: Church: this word (Greek ekkl&#275;sia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original. Jesus’ church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God.

Therefore...any....bar none...Christian congregation or an assembly of, is the church Christ built

The SBC teaches:
A New Testament church of the Lord Jesus Christ is an autonomous local congregation of baptized believers, associated by covenant in the faith and fellowship of the gospel; observing the two ordinances of Christ, governed by His laws, exercising the gifts, rights, and privileges invested in them by His Word, and seeking to extend the gospel to the ends of the earth. Each congregation operates under the Lordship of Christ through democratic processes. In such a congregation each member is responsible and accountable to Christ as Lord. Its scriptural officers are pastors and deacons. While both men and women are gifted for service in the church, the office of pastor is limited to men as qualified by Scripture.

The New Testament speaks also of the church as the Body of Christ which includes all of the redeemed of all the ages, believers from every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation.

Therefore...any....bar none...Christian congregation or an assembly of, is the church Christ built

The catlick encyclopdia: church: The term church is the name employed in the Teutonic languages to render the Greek ekklesia (ecclesia), the term by which the New Testament writers denote the society founded by Jesus Christ....

Therefore...any....bar none...Christian congregation or an assembly of, is the church Christ built

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#473090 Aug 26, 2013
Clay wrote:
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If Jesus Christ willed for you and everyone else to be the authority on His Ministry, then he's a phony.
If Our Lord silently waited until 1452 for the Bible to be published, so folks like you could interpret His teachings for everyone.... Then he's a phony.
If the Bible is all that He willed for His revelation of truth, but didn't tell anyone which Books- and His Apostles didn't tell anyone which Books; and they didn't properly explain their writings for us; and the truth got completely screwed up until the born again movement arrived 1900 yrs later.... Then Confrint, CHRISTIANITY IS THE BIGGEST FRAUD OF A RELIGION THIS WORLD HAS. CHRIST WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE MESSIAH IF YOUR SCENARIO WAS FACT. GOT IT?
For Christianity, its either the Catholic faith or nothing. Any other scenario uses way to much ignorance and man made theories. They remove so much logic and reason and still call themselves the 'followers of the truth and the way'.
What if it is a simple as this.

The Church started with the Apostles. And grew into an institution that became very intertwined with Emperor and kings later on. The kings used the authority of religion and the Church used the authority of the kings.

GOd did not want this political institution to be the ONLY way His word was spread.

He allowed for the Reformation..the distribution of bibles and the spread if His Word across the seas. NOTHING that big could happen without Him.

GOD blessed our country for its basic faithfulness and allowed us to ally with Israel.

Our internet and television ministries both Catholic and non spread the Good Word all over.

Our missionaries both Catholic and Non do wonderful work in poor places and Spread the Good Word.

He allowed this country to become a shining city .

He allowed for Vatican 2

He allowed for Popes who are now independent of kings and politics and ask for UNITY between the brethren...meaning us.

And for good relations with Israel

And He allowed for the generalized ACTUAL BIBLE study along with the catechism they had. For Catholics..with actual bibles

GOD HAS ALWAYS HAD A,PLAN for His,Church.(His Bride..the believers)

And maybe He needed alliance with the Emperor's to preserve His word.

But HE obviously did not desire that it be kept locked up for ONLY the clergy to interpret.

GOD ALLOWED all of this.

I believe He used ALL of theses methods including the printing press...tv..And internet..So that His word would be spread as far as,possible before the END TIMES.

Catholics BELIEVE it's only through them we are saved

We believe in the Bible as the way.

Maybe for each time in history it was through both .

So that most who hear will believe the ONLY NECESSARY WORD.

Jesus died for our Sins. We need to repent and receive Him. He is the Way..The Truth and the Light.

AT SOME POINT..it will be too late..He wants that none shall perish

Imo..to jealously say I AM THE ONLY WAY Is so wrong.

GOD allowed the Reformation so more of His word was spread ..period.

GOD allowed the Church in Rome to copy and preserve scripture.

We needed each other.to do His will.

And it is folly to believe differently. Imo

If there are errors in how we practice ....GOD WILL CORRECT THEM.

But the WORD ..JESUS IS THE WAY. Is His word and it will go out because He wants it to by what ever means He allows

And the Spirit will show us the truth in the Word.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473091 Aug 26, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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How sad. A person always finds what they are looking for.
YES they DO! And those who were looking for a religion that would teach them that if they belonged to a certain group, they would be admired by the one and only GOD and admitted to heaven, while others not in the group would be destined for hell.

It's easy to see on this forum and world-wide how that works out for the believers of such theological trash.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473092 Aug 26, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Evil despises what is Holy
I suggest you be honest and state it as you "think" it. "Evil people despise us holy people as they are jealous of us that they won't be allowed bliss in the hereafter."
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473093 Aug 26, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone on this forum states the truth as they know it to be as you do.
As they "BELIEVE" it to be.

Concepts of truth are opinions. Concerning religion ... claims of truth is outright bragging.

You have a concept from other concepts of Christian theologians that you will be saved if you believe in Jesus. You brag that that concept is based on the one and only truth.

Other people in other religions have other concepts and they also brag that their concepts are based on the one and only truth ... which you don't want to acknowledge, as you only treasure your OWN concepts.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473094 Aug 26, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>LOL< I have been on this Forum longer than any regular on here.
only Sheryl came on here before me. thank you.
You didn't answer the content of my post.

June VanDerMark wrote:

<quoted text>
If you believe that statement was true you would not BE on this forum promoting your religion as the one and only truth on earth.

I suggest you stop lying.
Plain Jane

Orlando, FL

#473095 Aug 26, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Clay is 100% Catholic.His post does prove it! You will not find a Catholic stating anything less.
Please show us where any Catholic teaching today, Roman or Orthodox, says this:

"For Christianity, its either the Catholic faith or nothing."

All other Christian denominations are "nothing?" Please give us one credible link please.

Not even angry old Pope Benedict wrote anything like that.

A drunk Baptist must have run over his dog. Or maybe too many church scandals has made him defensive?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473096 Aug 26, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>And the opposite of UP is DOWN lol....left is right....black is white....right is wrong....lol
Do you believe you are the saint, or the demon?

Opposite Word of saint:

"demon, devil, fiend"

http://www.opposite-word.com/default.asp
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473097 Aug 26, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Ashamed of what!!!! Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church??
You should be ashamed that you believe Catholics are saints and those who are not Catholics are the opposite. But instead you are completely arrogant. You don't even realize that you are insulting others. Or if you do, you don't give a CARE!

Opposite Word of saint:

"demon, devil, fiend"

http://www.opposite-word.com/default.asp
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473099 Aug 26, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
The Church is first and foremost the antidote to secularism. Most of the brilliant architecture, soul-moving music, insightful literature (including the Bible), beautiful art, and scientific advancements which the world has enjoyed for centuries has come from the Catholic Church.
When Catholics ruled supreme, everyone WAS Catholic by force ... so who else would you expect there was to create art and music, et cetera at the time in history???

They burned everything in sight that they taught was evil ... including people.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473100 Aug 26, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
What if it is a simple as this.
The Church started with the Apostles.
The story of Jesus and the apostles were USED to start a new Catholic CHURCH ... empire.

The Jews faithful to Judaism did not build or support churches as they didn't know of such an institution.

Had Jesus lived, within his own religion which would have been Judaism ... and his own time-frame on earth ... he would only have known of synagogues. The word church and Christianity came to the language after his "supposed" death ... by the ex-Jew Catholics.

You'll see the lies ... but only when you choose to see them.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473101 Aug 26, 2013
Nowhere on earth is there anything written by this supposed savior Jesus. Not a dogma ... not a signature.

And yet, he was supposedly a WISE man.

Use your brains-cells for some new thoughts and you will ask the "pertinent" questions.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#473102 Aug 26, 2013
James Madison,
(Superpatriotism, Michael Parenti, p55)
"
Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind, and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473103 Aug 26, 2013
It was common practice for the men in the religion coming to power to burn the art-work and literature of the previous dynasty.
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Nalanda, an ancient center of higher learning in Bihar, India was sacked by Turkic Muslim invaders under Bakhtiyar Khalji in 1193. The great library of Nalanda University was so vast that it is reported to have burned for three months after the invaders set fire to it, sacked and destroyed the monasteries, and drove the monks from the site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_burning
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473104 Aug 26, 2013
Men in religion were and are not unlike Male lions. When the new more powerful lion takes over by winning the fight over the previous dominant male lion, the new leader immediately kills off the cubs fathered by the previous dominant male.

"This is now MY territory" says the leader of the new religion ... "and I want no reminders of the previous believers other than to vilify them with insults of evil, and demons, et cetera."
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473105 Aug 26, 2013
Within theology an all-powerful creator can't be of the nature of pure love and yet allow a hell to exist in his universe.

Within theology a creator can't be of the nature of love and create two faulty humans (Adam and Eve) that the creator knows will fall short of the mark of perfection. That would make the creator responsible for the fall of humanity.

Within the theology a creator can't be of the nature of love and in turn create non-human animals with fangs, claws, sharp teeth and venom that they must use against each other in order to survive.

If you ask the pertinent questions of your selves, you will train your brain-cells to align with your consciences and you will in turn free your selves from the bondage of the deceptive, warring theologians.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Delta, Canada

#473106 Aug 26, 2013
Women in religion were not unlike the female lions. They were trained to accept the behavior of the males who taught them they were subservient to men.

The lionesses allow the new dominant males to kill their cubs. It's all they know. They put the care for their own babies aside and allow the male his RIGHTS.
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From the book “Chronology of Women’s History,” by Kirstin Olsen, comes the following……….

700—401 B.C.

Religion

Few men become arhats, and even fewer women; the only higher level is the achievement of nirvana (the end of the cycle of suffering caused by continual reincarnation), and it is believed in the Buddha’s day that women are incapable of achieving nirvana at all. They must be content with being as holy as possible in the hope of being reborn as men—and then they can reach nirvana.

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