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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 646268 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

Garden City, MI

#472873 Aug 25, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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But you guys,are,here telling us,how,wrong WE ARE ..
What I don't understand is,the whole premise of the forum.
The,purpose of VATICAN 2 was to show that the way to Christ did NOT
SOLELY reside with the CATHOLIC CHURCH .
another pope called our dead Christians,martyrs for the Lord ...
So that's,why we are a Here..instead of explodong our similaaities
You folks,tell us we are not really Christian ..
We tell you we don't believe the Pope is our mediatir to the will of Jesus,
An impasst
And we will both continue go worship in our own way .
I know many faithful Catholics ..a lady at Church made some kind if prayer bracelit ..gave it to the priest .. he blessed it ..But it was for him...
She probably goes to mass every day
But even you all should admit PETER ..would never have Accepted people bowing to Him..kissing His ring .. he would not have a throne chair
Unless it was given Him at Jesus return .
Your new,POPE and John Paul ..humble men ..And,John Paul tried for peace among us .
But they are only human
Who is,first will be last ..That was JESUS,teaching ..
Though I grew up under the CC teaching ...I really wonder what Jesus,would say about the VATICAN and its bank.
For that matter about megachurches..with rich pastors
Jesus did NOT SAY ..collect money and use it to build monuments to Me .Jesus,definitely did NOT say ..PETER I give you my church ..so your successors,will be treated as kings,.
Amass wealth and buy real estate ??
Then sell off the churches the poor attend if the diocese need a th e money ?? Leaving the poor people without a local church to depend on .
Let them ride busses to the next county if they want to hear Mass in their own language ...if the h e bus,fare ..That is.
These kind of things make me have doubtso about how the
CC hierarehy puts Faith into practice .
The people in your churches,love GOD .
And Sorry but I am as Qualifed as any one else to read about being
BORN again..to be baptized ..to know,what BORN AGAIN means,through God's,merciful Grace towards, me .
THAT clay is between every individual and,Jesus Christ OUR SAVIOUR
Slow down dear Rose. This has nothin to do with whether not you feel the grace of God when you pray. This has to do with the protection of truth. And no evangelical is in possession of the truth. We can clearly show how your beliefs are contrary to the word of God as revealed by the Apostles. Billy Graham and those similar are devout sincere Christians, but the truth is, that they've changed word of God. The Christianity that has developed since the 20th century tent revivals is a different Christianity. None the less, God DOES meet you guys to a certain point as He does Mormons, Jehovah's and anyone else who seeks Him with an open and sincere heart. Otherwise God would be a phony.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#472874 Aug 25, 2013
There are preachers in places of worship today that are admitted Atheists. They preach as though their hearts are in it ... and they can pull off that scam because those sermons have become automatic.

They have nowhere to go for other livelihoods, as they are only trained to regurgitate words from their "books."

As happened gradually with me, religion made less and less sense to them, until they had to admit to their selves that they were on the wrong path.

But their conundrum is, how to earn a living for their families. So they stay and lie, and many times their wives stay and also live the lie.

I'm thankful that my livelihood didn't depend on me being a leader of a congregation, or it might be me lying to my self and to others and suffering terribly in my conscience.

What a conundrum for these poor trapped humans that went into preaching with the hopes of saving others, never believing that one day the trap would spring shut on them.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#472875 Aug 25, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Never said that at all June .
You didn't have to post that you believe others are evil. You believe in hell, and that says it all.

Within your theology holy people don't go to hell, so that makes other automatically evil.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#472876 Aug 25, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
If by that you mean I love my country and believe we should continue
To ally with God's,Chosen ISRAEL .
yes ..That dies not make me silly
At worst practical ..at best we are doing God's will
The only reason you now (as a Christian) support Israel, is because you believe Jesus won't come until the Jews go back to their homeland.

What a twist from the old days of Christianity.
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World History Timelines
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1096

may 00 - Before embarking on the First Crusade Count Emich von Leiningen and his army swept through their own German homeland, murdering thousands of Jews, whom they had declared "murderers of Christ." When Emich arrived in the town of Worms, the town's Roman Catholic Bishop tried to protect the Jewish population, but the Crusaders overran his palace and slaughtered some 500 people who had taken shelter there. Another 300 were killed over the next two days. The graves of the massacre victims can still be seen at the Jewish Cemetery at Worms.

1190

mar 16 - The Crusades began the massacre of Jews in York, England.The Jewish population of York fled to Clifford's Tower overlooking the rivers Ouse and Foss during an anti-Jewish riot. A crazed friar set fire to the tower and rather than be captured, the inhabitants committed mass suicide.

mar 17 - Crusades complete massacre of Jews of York England.

mar 18 - Crusaders kill 57 Jews in Bury St Edmonds England.
205

jul 15 - Pope Innocent III states Jews are doomed to perpetual servitude & subjugation due to crucifixion of Jesus.

1348x –
Accused of being a cause of the plague, the Jews in France were dragged from their houses and burned.Pogroms occurred throughout Europe. When the plague subsided, few Jews were left in Germany ? or the Low Countries.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#472877 Aug 25, 2013
One man who considered his self a holy Christian stated that he really didn't want to believe that the Jews were evil, but he finally had to admit that it was true.

Listen to their words and you will see that these self-perceived holy ones are simply self-centered, self-righteous human-animals hiding their real selves in the garb of religion.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#472878 Aug 25, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
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Our faith dies not hinge on believing in the words of the Pope .
Nor is he even mentioned in worship.
In Evangelical churches ..the Pope or the CC is not part if the service .
Our Catholic Christian faith is "hinged" on believing the words of Jesus Christ (and not the Pope). The Pope is a "bishop" an overseer (Acts 2) of the TRUTH and the TRUE Teachings of Jesus as Jesus "taught them " to HIS Apostles (who, by the way, were Bishops in the ALL of the Early Churches (Antioch, Galatia, Ephesus, Thessalonica, Corinth, etc.(again Acts 2)......Protestant (bible only Churches (all 42,000+ of them since the Reformation, each have their own "bible self-interpreting "Relative Truth" Popes" (what each person decides for themselves is the truth), that contradict and conflict with each other on what the (they think, and what they decide) bible says and means. It is just a hodge-podge of editorialized "opinions" that can't agree on ANYTHING accept to "hostily attack, criticize and aggressive condemn" Jesus Christ and HIS (biblically and historically PROVEN One TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church!!!...Over 2000 years ago Jesus Christ left HIS Apostles, disciples and followers HIS ONE TRUE (UNIVERSAL-CATHOLIC) Church (Matt 16:13-21)------NOT A BIBLE!!! Jesus' Church was heirachical, authoritative and visible with Bishops, priests, deacons and elders (again Acts 2)....Paul confirms it in I Timothy 3:15 when he call THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) the pinnacle, pillar and foundation of the TRUTH!!!---There was NO BIBLE for over 350 years after Jesus established, inititated and formed HIS ONE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH. The Church CAME FIRST and then the bible in 382,393, and 397 AD.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#472879 Aug 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The only reason you now (as a Christian) support Israel, is because you believe Jesus won't come until the Jews go back to their homeland.
What a twist from the old days of Christianity.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>
World History Timelines
Din Timelines
1096
may 00 - Before embarking on the First Crusade Count Emich von Leiningen and his army swept through their own German homeland, murdering thousands of Jews, whom they had declared "murderers of Christ." When Emich arrived in the town of Worms, the town's Roman Catholic Bishop tried to protect the Jewish population, but the Crusaders overran his palace and slaughtered some 500 people who had taken shelter there. Another 300 were killed over the next two days. The graves of the massacre victims can still be seen at the Jewish Cemetery at Worms.
1190
mar 16 - The Crusades began the massacre of Jews in York, England.The Jewish population of York fled to Clifford's Tower overlooking the rivers Ouse and Foss during an anti-Jewish riot. A crazed friar set fire to the tower and rather than be captured, the inhabitants committed mass suicide.
mar 17 - Crusades complete massacre of Jews of York England.
mar 18 - Crusaders kill 57 Jews in Bury St Edmonds England.
205
jul 15 - Pope Innocent III states Jews are doomed to perpetual servitude & subjugation due to crucifixion of Jesus.
1348x –
Accused of being a cause of the plague, the Jews in France were dragged from their houses and burned.Pogroms occurred throughout Europe. When the plague subsided, few Jews were left in Germany ? or the Low Countries.
Lol actually not..I read about and cheered for Israel ..long before,I heard one single end time prophecy .

It's their country.

I know,NOW,why it was God's will we support them .

And Jesus will come when He comes,..that's up to the Father

It could be a hundred years,from now,.

God forbid there could be another diaspora,between now and then..I don't think do but we don't know .

But JESUS will sit in David's throne ..in the end

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472880 Aug 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The Gnostics did not even agree on theories, much less truth ... so what IS your problem?
Are you trying to "prove" that a theory is MORE than a theory just because it is YOUR specific theory?
It is still simply a "theory."
If you get THAT through your head, you might stop trying to impress upon others that you would make a GOOD leader for aving the best Gnostic theory.
You are being very silly.
a. No problem.

b. No, I am not.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472881 Aug 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You put me down for staying in religion for 70 years and yet you are still stuck in religion your "self."
You are quite the "leader."
Big difference, huh?

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#472882 Aug 25, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol actually not..I read about and cheered for Israel ..long before,I heard one single end time prophecy .
It's their country.
I know,NOW,why it was God's will we support them .
And Jesus will come when He comes,..that's up to the Father
It could be a hundred years,from now,.
God forbid there could be another diaspora,between now and then..I don't think do but we don't know .
But JESUS will sit in David's throne ..in the end
YEAH RIGHT!

You are full of something ... but I doubt that it has anything to do with even a semblance of truth.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472883 Aug 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
No thanks. I believe the voice you hear in your head is your own and has nothing whatsoever to do with being celestial.
Self.

Thanks for proving my point, again.

Why do you refute something that you promote?

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#472884 Aug 25, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Big difference, huh?
Why are YOU still in religion???

:)
LTM

Geraldton, Canada

#472885 Aug 25, 2013
There are many men and women standing in the pulpit preaching God's word.
The truth is many of them got their credentials from a popcorn box or on line.
There are also true men of God who have fallen from God's Grace. King David was one .
It cost him much but God forgave him and restored King David.
A Pastor or Preacher, is anointed by God to teach and preach it is a gift of the Holy Spirit not of man, and it can not be bought.
You only have to sit under a man that is anointed to preach or teach and one that isn't to know the difference.
You can not compare God; with man if man failed it wasn't God's doing, it was mans for not listening to God's warnings.
God has done all He can to save man from themselves.
Even gave His own life to save them.
Thank you Almighty God for your Mercy and Grace,
And your gift of Salvation; your Son Jesus Christ.

'AT THE CROSS AT THE CROSS WHERE I FIRST SAW THE LIGHT;
AND THE BURDENS OF MY HEART ROLLED AWAY, IT WAS THERE BY FRIGHT I RECIEVED MY SIGHT.
NOW I AM HAPPY ALL THE DAY.'

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#472886 Aug 25, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Our Catholic Christian faith is "hinged" on believing the words of Jesus Christ (and not the Pope).
So ... are you indicating that the pope is a liar and does not preach the same words as did Jesus the "Jew?"

:)

Hilarious stuff!

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#472887 Aug 25, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Our Catholic Christian faith is "hinged" on believing the words of Jesus Christ (and not the Pope). The Pope is a "bishop" an overseer (Acts 2) of the TRUTH and the TRUE Teachings of Jesus as Jesus "taught them " to HIS Apostles (who, by the way, were Bishops in the ALL of the Early Churches (Antioch, Galatia, Ephesus, Thessalonica, Corinth, etc.(again Acts 2)......Protestant (bible only Churches (all 42,000+ of them since the Reformation, each have their own "bible self-interpreting "Relative Truth" Popes" (what each person decides for themselves is the truth), that contradict and conflict with each other on what the (they think, and what they decide) bible says and means. It is just a hodge-podge of editorialized "opinions" that can't agree on ANYTHING accept to "hostily attack, criticize and aggressive condemn" Jesus Christ and HIS (biblically and historically PROVEN One TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church!!!...Over 2000 years ago Jesus Christ left HIS Apostles, disciples and followers HIS ONE TRUE (UNIVERSAL-CATHOLIC) Church (Matt 16:13-21)------NOT A BIBLE!!! Jesus' Church was heirachical, authoritative and visible with Bishops, priests, deacons and elders (again Acts 2)....Paul confirms it in I Timothy 3:15 when he call THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) the pinnacle, pillar and foundation of the TRUTH!!!---There was NO BIBLE for over 350 years after Jesus established, inititated and formed HIS ONE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH. The Church CAME FIRST and then the bible in 382,393, and 397 AD.
Look my comment was about the fact ..despite what Clay said ..our Faith is not dependent on what the CC does,or does,not do .

I do not believe the Church as it is..rich and powerful is what Jesus intended . I do not believe all your POPES,were even fit to tie Peter's,shoes . Let alone wear them..But even the best of them are no substitute,for God's word.

This in no way negates the belief of its,faithful .

Nor dies it negate the faith of Christians born AGSIN through the grace of Jesus,Christ sacrifice on the CROSS .

the apostles thought that belief ..Not belief in an institution .

JESUS ALONE..The CROSS ..His sacrifice ..plus nothing .

Indulgences given by an earthly body are NOTHING compared to HIS,BLOOD
which the,APOSTLES taught is what saves,us.

I pray that my mom.And dad are with Jesus ..That they were right EITH Him when they died..time is nothing to God .

But it was not the prayers,if the,Jews that freed the faithful Jews from Sheol..Jesus did.

As He frees all of us ..took all our sins to the CROSS ..when Sa tan
Accuses us ..God looks at us through HIS SON ..HIS BLOOD.
LTM

Geraldton, Canada

#472888 Aug 25, 2013
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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#472889 Aug 25, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>The Gospel according to Mary Magdela (author Jean-Yves Leloup) states that in order for Jesus to be able to redeem human sexuality,He had to have some sort of complete sexual relationship with Mary M.because they were so intimate,the Apostle Philip stated in his gospel that they often kissed on the mouth.
According to the Gospel of MM,Mary was considered closer to the Lord Jesus than He was with the male disciples,and that they should listen to her.As they grieved having to share the gospel knowing that they would face persecution.MaryM> would be the one to set them straight. Jean Yves Leloup states that Jesus had to have a sexual knowing in order to be able to redeem humanitycompletely.
What are your answers to that,since you no doubt are a spiritual leader of Gnostic gospels?
Jean Yves Leloup - opinion or truth? What did you decide?

IMO - I believe there was a little bit of that human emotion jealousy out there brewing with the men,'cause Jesus may have been gettin' a little "sumtin'-sumtin'"... .*winks*....

That is how screwed up man's writing is, huh? Too many opinions get formulated, but now it's upon us to CHOOSE which texts are true and which are not. You seem to believe Jean Yves Leloup's opinion. Or are you just using that as a reference for something having to do with the RCC?

I still haven't grasped the correlation you want to bring up.

As for my answers - they are off-topic so I'll skip on posting.

Maybe you should also stay a little more focused as well.

OR.....you could speak with June, as she seems interested in the Gnostic religion.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#472890 Aug 25, 2013
I want you to ask your selves this question.

From what I studied of ancient religions ... the theologians in all religions taught that killing of other humans was ordained by the gods.

By teaching that dogma, were the ancient theologians selfless ... or selfish in their "aims?"

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#472891 Aug 25, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<OR.....you could speak with June, as she seems interested in the Gnostic religion.
I am interested in the study of ALL religions.

You are interested in only promoting your specific brand of Gnosticism.

By the way ... do you believe that you will reincarnate as amore evolved human in your next life on earth, or do you believe that this is your last entry of SELF in this present life and that your mission of "enlightenment" is accomplished?

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#472892 Aug 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Slow down dear Rose. This has nothin to do with whether not you feel the grace of God when you pray. This has to do with the protection of truth. And no evangelical is in possession of the truth. We can clearly show how your beliefs are contrary to the word of God as revealed by the Apostles. Billy Graham and those similar are devout sincere Christians, but the truth is, that they've changed word of God. The Christianity that has developed since the 20th century tent revivals is a different Christianity. None the less, God DOES meet you guys to a certain point as He does Mormons, Jehovah's and anyone else who seeks Him with an open and sincere heart. Otherwise God would be a phony.
Okay CLAY ..now,explain ..how,the richest institution in the world closes,churches..And sells,them out from under the faithful .
To make up.money lost by the diocese.

One,from the CC claimed it was to integrate them ...into a church miles
away ..they HSVE no cars,And don't speak ENGLISH..what is that about ??

They SHOUKD walk in 95 degrees,of heat..through storms,to a,Church that is, lucky enough not to get the ax..to listen to a,priest they cannot understand ..km talking about Cubans,and Hatians,..But others,also .

They COuld walk down 195 I suppose to find,another CHURCH EITH closer ethnic??

This is,NOT Christian love IMO.

I saw,and read this in the news ...sorry it made me angry ..where is the VATICAN bank in all this .

What purpose to give money to ROME ..to have a head if the Church ..if that head does not reach out at least keeping Its,churches open .

But hey the,real estate market is a bit better..Rich people want The land under the Churches..And its not just here .

But if you get rid of the CHURCH LOCALLY. easier to build in neighborhoods..people will move ..And the developers can gentrify...or build what they want ..

Sad

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