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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658727 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#469032 Aug 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>The Studite is legitimate.Keep in mind that the monastic order he founded are Eastern Catholics today, not Eastern Orthodox. If the Eastern Catholic existed when the Studite lived he very likely would have been Eastern Catholic, therefor not representative of Orthodox on the Pope issue. Theodore the Studite is loved by the Orthodox for his defense of the icons.
I witness now before God and men, they have torn themselves away from the Body of Christ, from the Surpreme See (Rome), in which Christ placed the keys of the Faith, against which the gates of hell (I mean the mouth of heretics) have not prevailed, and never will until the Consummation, according to the promise of Him Who cannot lie. Let the blessed and Apostolic Paschal (Pope St. Paschal I) rejoice therefore, for he has fulfilled the work of Peter.(Theodore Bk. II. Ep. 63).

Was St. Theodore a heretic?

Since: Dec 11

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#469033 Aug 6, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
St. Athanasius (362)
Rome is called the Apostolic throne.(Athanasius, Hist. Arian, ad Monach. n. 35)
The Chief, Peter.(Athan, In Ps. xv. 8, tom. iii. p. 106, Migne)
Theodoret, Bishop of Cyrus in Syria (450)
A native of Antioch, Theodoret ruled under the Antiochean Patriarch.
The great foundation of the Church was shaken, and confirmed by the Divine grace. And the Lord commanded him to apply that same care to the brethren.'And thou,' He says,'converted, confirm thy brethren.'(Theodoret, Tom. iv. Haeret. Fab. lib. v.c. 28)
'For as I,' He says,'did not despise thee when tossed, so be thou a support to thy brethren in trouble, and the help by which thou was saved do thou thyself impart to others, and exhort them not while they are tottering, but raise them up in their peril. For this reason I suffer thee also to slip, but do not permit thee to fall, thus through thee gaining steadfastness for those who are tossed.' So this great pillar supported the tossing and sinking world, and permitted it not to fall entirely and gave it back stability, having been ordered to feed God's sheep.(Theodoret, Oratio de Caritate in J. P. Minge, ed., Partrologiae Curses Completus: Series Graeca).
I therefore beseech your holiness to persuade the most holy and blessed bishop (Pope Leo) to use his Apostolic power, and to order me to hasten to your Council. For that most holy throne (Rome) has the sovereignty over the churches throughout the universe on many grounds.(Theodoret, Tom. iv. Epist. cxvi. Renato, p. 1197).
If Paul, the herald of the truth, the trumpet of the Holy Spirit, hastened to the great Peter, to convey from him the solution to those in Antioch, who were at issue about living under the law, how much more do we, poor and humble, run to the Apostolic Throne (Rome) to receive from you (Pope Leo) healing for wounds of the the Churches. For it pertains to you to have primacy in all things; for your throne is adorned with many prerogatives.(Theodoret Ibid, Epistle Leoni)
Do you seriously think I am going to spend my time debunking every quote listed on the site you are getting from. If you examine their credibility on the ones I debunked they only got 1 right.Thats enough for me to know their credibility.I dont have time following the Catholics around on their web sites correcting all their spins.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#469034 Aug 6, 2013
Study list Pope Francis as the most influential

leader in social media

http://www.romereports.com/palio/study-lists-...

All for the glory of God!!!!

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#469035 Aug 6, 2013
Now I am not certain if the Studite was preschism. LOL
Shacking I could be wrong. LOL
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#469036 Aug 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Alexander Schmemannis known for writing criticism of the Othodox Church,often helpful.If he was Catholic the Catholic church would have more or less condemned him and refused him permission to teach as they have done with Hans Kung and many others.
Dont you remember you posted the same quote about a month ago and I responded.Unless you are that professor from Back to the Future asm not going back there.
You berated him, that I remember. I don't recall you showing me anything he said that approached the level heterodoxy that Hans Kung exhibits. He was by no means an "Orthodox Hans Kung", much as you'd like me to think.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#469037 Aug 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who=" Anthony MN"
The most comprehensive study ever done shows the percentage was less than about 1%. Other studies show protestant numbers to be 3-4%.
**********
Anthony, I don't wish to be unkind...but you know that (regardless of your 'studies')...Protestant offenders often go to jail. The CC has paid out millions of $'s to escape justice.
KayMarie
Wrong! Protestant churches close up and start a new one, leaving the victim to suffer. The RCC gives the victims money for counseling.
NOT TO ESCAPE JUSTICE.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#469038 Aug 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Do you seriously think I am going to spend my time debunking every quote listed on the site you are getting from. If you examine their credibility on the ones I debunked they only got 1 right.Thats enough for me to know their credibility.I dont have time following the Catholics around on their web sites correcting all their spins.
I really don't give a hoot what you spend your time doing. I'm just pasting quotes, debunk them if you wish or ignore them and munch popcorn with Sera while you watch a nice romantic movie.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#469039 Aug 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Now I am not certain if the Studite was preschism. LOL
Shacking I could be wrong. LOL
St. Theodore the Studite of Constantinople (759-826)

Pre-schism.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#469040 Aug 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Again I am not going to post with someone on a ridiculous line of logic. Dont you get it. He was only Orthodox because there were no Orthodox Catholic Church back then. His view on the pope does not reflect Orthodoxy but Orthodox Catholics. No soup for you.I am supposed to debate you on this?????
It was not considered Heresy because the schism didnt happed yet. thats it Im done.
So much for your theory that papal primacy was a development AFTER the schism. lol.

Go ahead, be done. Take your marbles and go home. I'll keep playing without you.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#469041 Aug 6, 2013
The Vatican said that based on information from World Youth Day organizers and local authorities, more than 3 million people were on hand for the Pope’s final Mass of his historic trip last Sunday at Copacabana beach.
That was far higher than the 1 million at the last World Youth Day vigil in Madrid in 2011 or the 650,000 at Toronto's 2002 vigil.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/08...

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#469042 Aug 6, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
The papal letter's contents were not disclosed.????
Do the people have no standing whatsoever?
Pope to Muslims for end of Ramadan;;;

To Muslims throughout the World

http://en.radiovaticana.va/articolo.asp...

More on the letter..

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Pope%27s-messa...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#469043 Aug 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
JESUS SAID
Joh_14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you:
for the prince of this world cometh,
and hath nothing in me.
___
QUESTION
WHO IS CURRENTLY CLAIMING TO BE THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD..
DOES HE NO SIT ON HIS UNIVERSAL (CATHOLIC)THRONE IN ROME ITALY.
IS HE NOT THE ONE JESUS SAID WOULD COME...
~~~
IS HIS FOLLOWERS/ADHERENCE'S... NOT WRESTLING WITH THE
REST OF THE
WORLD TO DECEIVE THEM TO REVERE HIS SUPREME AUTHORITY,
AS HE ATTEMPTS TO USURP THE THRONE OF JESUS.
Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ,(by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
~~~

I WILL ASK AGAIN..

THE RULERS OF THE NATIONS OF THIS WORLD WERE PROPHESIED IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL...

BUT

THE PRINCE THAT JESUS WAS SPEAKING ABOUT (the one that would come)IS NOT LISTED THERE...

After Jesus defeated satan at Calvary ...SATAN is no longer the prince of this world...

Who is it that has stepped up to take satan's place as PRINCE OF THIS WORLD ...

(UNIVERSAL PRINCE) HEAD OF THE UNIVERSAL (CATHOLIC [SO CALLED]

THAT HAS TURNED HIS DECEIVED ADHERENCE AGAINST THE INSPIRED (GOD BREATHED) WORD...

AND PROCLAIMED THAT HIS WORD TAKES PREEMINENCE OF GOD'S WORD?

AND CREATED HIS OWN CONJECTURE FABLES AND LIES TO REPLACE IT

WHO IS CURRENTLY CLAIMING TO BE THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD..

WHO IS IT ATTEMPTING TO RULE CHRISTENDOM?

DOES HE NO SIT ON HIS UNIVERSAL (CATHOLIC)THRONE IN ROME ITALY.

IS HE NOT THE ONE JESUS SAID WOULD COME...

WHO IS IT THAT IS CLAIMING TO BE THE RULER OF GOD'S CHURCH UPON EARTH..

WHO IS IT THE RULERS OF NATIONS BOW TO WHO IS IT (THE GENTILE )THAT IS

ASPIRING TO BE THE CUSTODIAN OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT ?

SOME ONE HERE WILL CALL ME CRAZY..

I AM WHOM GOD SAY I AM.

PROVE ME WRONG IF YOU CAN?

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#469044 Aug 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
JESUS SAID
Joh_14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you:
for the prince of this world cometh,
and hath nothing in me.
___
QUESTION
WHO IS CURRENTLY CLAIMING TO BE THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD..
DOES HE NO SIT ON HIS UNIVERSAL (CATHOLIC)THRONE IN ROME ITALY.
IS HE NOT THE ONE JESUS SAID WOULD COME...
~~~
IS HIS FOLLOWERS/ADHERENCE'S... NOT WRESTLING WITH THE
REST OF THE
WORLD TO DECEIVE THEM TO REVERE HIS SUPREME AUTHORITY,
AS HE ATTEMPTS TO USURP THE THRONE OF JESUS.
Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ,(by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
In the bible aren't thrones here to be JESUS and the twenty four elders.

Peter being one ..isn't his throne still in heaven .

Or did I read it wrong ..

Apostles, 12
Sons,of Israel 12

Jesus on David's throne ..

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#469045 Aug 6, 2013
The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ
by Fr. William G. Most

Speaking of full membership in the Church, Pius XII, in his Encyclical on the Mystical Body, said it is the society of those who have been baptized, and who profess the faith of Christ, and who are governed by their bishops under the visible head, the Pope, the Bishop of Rome.

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH..
The Church came into being when Christ died on the

Cross, but it was formally inaugurated on

Pentecost, when He sent the Holy Spirit as He had

promised. St. Paul speaks of all Christians as

members of Christ, so that with Him, they form one

Mystical Body (Cf. 1 Cor 12:12-31; Col 1:18;

2:18-20; Eph. 1:22-23; 3:19; 4:13). St. Paul did not use the word Mystical. It was developed more recently to bring out the fact that this union is unique, there is no parallel to it. It is not the same as the union of a physical body, nor that of a business corporation.

The Church, the Mystical Body, exists on this earth, and is called the Church militant, because its members struggle against the world, the flesh and the devil. The Church triumphant is the Church in heaven. The unity and cooperation of the members of the Church on earth, in Heaven is also called the Communion of Saints. When St. Paul uses the word "Saints" in opening an Epistle, he does not mean they are morally perfect. He has in mind Hebrew qadosh, which means set aside for God, or coming under the covenant. Being such means of course they are called to moral perfection. But of course, not all have reached it in this world.

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Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#469046 Aug 6, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
You berated him, that I remember. I don't recall you showing me anything he said that approached the level heterodoxy that Hans Kung exhibits. He was by no means an "Orthodox Hans Kung", much as you'd like me to think.
You are a liar. I did not berate him. I countered with a quote from a Catholic theologian Yves Congar stating the East did not recognize Papal Supremacy. f you would like I will give you the post number and my post itself.Why lie? Thats what I can never understand.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#469047 Aug 6, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
So much for your theory that papal primacy was a development AFTER the schism. lol.
Go ahead, be done. Take your marbles and go home. I'll keep playing without you.
The Studite was preschism. What's so funny about me mentioning preschism. I thought it was funny how you thought someone could be declared a heretic for a West teaching when the churches were still united?????

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#469048 Aug 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I WILL ASK AGAIN..
THE RULERS OF THE NATIONS OF THIS WORLD WERE PROPHESIED IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL...
BUT
THE PRINCE THAT JESUS WAS SPEAKING ABOUT (the one that would come)IS NOT LISTED THERE...
After Jesus defeated satan at Calvary ...SATAN is no longer the prince of this world...
Who is it that has stepped up to take satan's place as PRINCE OF THIS WORLD ...
(UNIVERSAL PRINCE) HEAD OF THE UNIVERSAL (CATHOLIC [SO CALLED]
THAT HAS TURNED HIS DECEIVED ADHERENCE AGAINST THE INSPIRED (GOD BREATHED) WORD...
AND PROCLAIMED THAT HIS WORD TAKES PREEMINENCE OF GOD'S WORD?
AND CREATED HIS OWN CONJECTURE FABLES AND LIES TO REPLACE IT
WHO IS CURRENTLY CLAIMING TO BE THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD..
WHO IS IT ATTEMPTING TO RULE CHRISTENDOM?
DOES HE NO SIT ON HIS UNIVERSAL (CATHOLIC)THRONE IN ROME ITALY.
IS HE NOT THE ONE JESUS SAID WOULD COME...
WHO IS IT THAT IS CLAIMING TO BE THE RULER OF GOD'S CHURCH UPON EARTH..
WHO IS IT THE RULERS OF NATIONS BOW TO WHO IS IT (THE GENTILE )THAT IS
ASPIRING TO BE THE CUSTODIAN OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT ?
SOME ONE HERE WILL CALL ME CRAZY..
I AM WHOM GOD SAY I AM.
PROVE ME WRONG IF YOU CAN?
YOU WOULD SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN NEAR 2000 YEARS SINCE JESUS SPOKE OF THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD COMING,( AND HAVING NOTHING IN HIM)..

TIME IS NOT OF ESSENCE IN GOD'S ECONOMY...

2000 YEARS IS JUST MOMENTS TO GOD.... FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOUR SELF.

2Pe_3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

ALL THIS HAS COME INTO MOTION WHEN JESUS THE STAR OF TH DRAMA...

HAS BEEN SET ASIDE...AND

THE SUPPORTING ACTORS AND PROPS OF THE STAGE IN THEWHOLE DRAMA ARE BEING WORSHIPED.

IT SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT JESUS..

1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1Co 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

1Co 1:29 ==> That no flesh should glory in his presence. <==

1Co 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

1Co 1:31 That, according as it is written,

He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
Simple

United States

#469049 Aug 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Pro_14:18 The simple inherit folly: but the prudent are crowned with knowledge.
Try this for yourself then.

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
Simple

United States

#469050 Aug 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU WOULD SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN NEAR 2000 YEARS SINCE JESUS SPOKE OF THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD COMING,( AND HAVING NOTHING IN HIM)..
TIME IS NOT OF ESSENCE IN GOD'S ECONOMY...
2000 YEARS IS JUST MOMENTS TO GOD.... FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOUR SELF.
2Pe_3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
ALL THIS HAS COME INTO MOTION WHEN JESUS THE STAR OF TH DRAMA...
HAS BEEN SET ASIDE...AND
THE SUPPORTING ACTORS AND PROPS OF THE STAGE IN THEWHOLE DRAMA ARE BEING WORSHIPED.
IT SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT JESUS..
1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
1Co 1:29 ==> That no flesh should glory in his presence. <==
1Co 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
1Co 1:31 That, according as it is written,
He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
You prove it or it is false. I am waiting!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#469051 Aug 6, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
In the bible aren't thrones here to be JESUS and the twenty four elders.
Peter being one ..isn't his throne still in heaven .
Or did I read it wrong ..
Apostles, 12
Sons,of Israel 12
Jesus on David's throne ..
IN THE MILLENNIUM JESUS WILL REIGN..

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isa 9:7 ==> Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end,

upon the throne of David, and

upon his kingdom, to order it, and

to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever.

The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

THE 12 APOSTLES WILL RULE THE 12 TRIBES OF Israel

Mat_19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN CAUGHT AWAY IN THE BRIDE WILL REIGN WITH JESUS AS KING AND PRIEST

Rev_20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

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