Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Cracker

Tempe, AZ

#467274 Jul 30, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Please cite where the Pope condones homosexual acts.
Thanks
"WHO AM I TO JUDGE" said the pope yesterday. How convenient in this time of changing societal values to follow the mainstream and ignore previous church teachings.

Like I said earlier, membership in the church is falling,(i.e. donations), so you have to go with the flow during these times to survive.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#467275 Jul 30, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Does "pedophile" appear in the reports??
The term "child sexual abuse" occurs on the site so frequently as to lose count.

Assuming the SBC doesn't ordain children to the ministry, we can conclude that we're dealing with pedophiles.

How's that shoe tasting?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#467276 Jul 30, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I have "no intention" of playing your (once saved-always saved) bible only Protestant "game" of questions and more questions. The only reason you came on this forum Oxbow is "for one purpose" and one purpose ONLY!! To attack, condemn and rip" Jesus Christ and 2000 years of His historically and biblically PROVEN One TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church. I have seen how you "fundies" (con) Anthony, Clay, Regina and other Catholics into your "Protestant (anti-catholic) "loaded question" game using a "bunch" of mis-interpreted (personal opinionated bible verse (answers) to spread your "false and distorted" anti-catholic rif-raf on nonsense!! Go ask your questions to the rest of your 42,000 contradicting and inconsistent other bible only "fundies" and argue, debate and rip each others "relative truth" beliefs.... I/we as Catholics will "continue" to remain with the AUTHORITATIVE and PROVEN TRUTH, believing, worshipping and adhering to the TRUTH of Jesus Christ's One True Catholic Church at Daily Mass, the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible, the Eucharist (Our Lords TRUE body and blood) and the other Sacraments, as billions and billions of Catholics have done (and are still doing) for over 2000 years. You, my friend, can do what you want!!!
Just as I thought....you have no testimony...because you are not saved.

Your cult teaches Christ is the redeemer of the human race...why did He not include you?????!!!!
Dan

Omaha, NE

#467277 Jul 30, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
God created Adam and Eve...A man and a woman...there is no "homosexual" gender. There are heterosexuals who, by their choice, perform sexual deviate acts...that is whom God gave up to a reprobate mine.....
Homosexual is not a gender.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#467278 Jul 30, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
But it was done ..And the perpetrators,..Not excommunicated ?
The monarchs..the clergy . How about Queen Mary ..excommunicated??
The Spanish monarchy
Others in the offices charged with r outing out so called heresy by Jews or non Catholics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
And not vouching in full for this site ..But it's nit religious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apologi...
And yes,I know the English church persecuted also.
It else there would HAVE been no settlers looking fir religious freedom
From both Rome and the King
I'm asking ..if it was nit doctrine or dogma,..we're all I r any who killed people in the Name of the CATHOLIC CHURCH
Excommunicated..
Discrediting the Black Legend brings up the sticky subject of revisionism. Re-investigating history is only invalid if it puts an agenda ahead of reality. The experts once true believers in the Inquisition myth were not out to do a feminist canonization of Isabella or claim that Tomas de Torquemada was a Marxist. Henry Kamen of the Higher Council for Scientific Research in Barcelona said on camera that researching the Inquisition's archives "demolished the previous image all of us historians) had."

Inquisition pale in comparison to the 150,000 documented witch burnings elsewhere in Europe over the same centuries.

And the future of the Black Legend? For many it may continue to hold more weight than reality.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/his...

http://www.youtube.com/playlist... BBC/A&E Myths of the Inquistion

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologeti...
Cracker

Tempe, AZ

#467279 Jul 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
JESUS IS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH
Heb_12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
JESUS SAID...
Mar_16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Joh_3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh_3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh_3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Joh_5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Joh_6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Joh_6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
----
Mat_16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Mat 11:26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Mat 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Trust but verify. How convenient we can't verify.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#467280 Jul 30, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder what changed the mind of religionists to show them that they cannot just burn people to death anymore.
I betcha that they were bummed out - just a wee bit!
:o)
So Catholics and Prtestants, why are we not still seeing people burned and tortured anymore? Did your religion change its view on heresy?
Theologians wrote from their cruel own assessments what a god wanted them to do to other people ... and they followed those words to a T.

Now Christians want to pretend those words don't exist and that a god never commanded the killing of others.

They lie through their teeth.
Cracker

Tempe, AZ

#467281 Jul 30, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Why people even desire to belong to religious groups that teach such horrible dogmas is beyond me.
I was under the spell of religion for most of my life, but I created a belief of my own that the one god loved everybody without conditions put upon the love.
At least I wasn't trying to grab all the supposed love for my self while claiming that others deserved to spend eternity in hell.
Religion is BUNK!
"THE SPELL OF RELIGION" Exactly!

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#467282 Jul 30, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Just as I thought....you have no testimony...because you are not saved.
AHEM ... excuse me ... but is "god" not supposed to judge who is and who is not saved???

It seems that you have tripped over your own judgment on the way to wait for god to judge.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#467283 Jul 30, 2013
Cracker wrote:
<quoted text>"WHO AM I TO JUDGE" said the pope yesterday.
He's busy judging that Jesus now loves everybody.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#467284 Jul 30, 2013
Cracker wrote:
<quoted text>Trust but verify. How convenient we can't verify.
:)
Cracker

Tempe, AZ

#467285 Jul 30, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
blasphemeth: to vilify; specially, to speak impiously:--(speak) blaspheme(-er,-mously,-my), defame, rail on, revile, speak evil.
I have yet to find an avowed atheist willing, with complete certainty, to seal his fate for all of eternity......would you want to have a go at it?????
By all means, please take my presence here as gospel that I am committing blasphemeth against yours or any other God. Now does that mean I must be killed for it? Am I to suffer for all eternity? Is that righteousness? Is that mercy? Is that love?
Is that how your all powerful and everliving god delivers his message?

Or for my sins is he going to create another holocaust. He is the creator after all.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#467286 Jul 30, 2013
Cracker wrote:
<quoted text>"WHO AM I TO JUDGE" said the pope yesterday. How convenient in this time of changing societal values to follow the mainstream and ignore previous church teachings.
Like I said earlier, membership in the church is falling,(i.e. donations), so you have to go with the flow during these times to survive.
Considering - per Anthony and Clay - "the Pope is infallible", so his teachings are not in error.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#467287 Jul 30, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Let's recap - as you seem to be losing focus again.
June VanDerMark wrote:
I don't follow your teaching that self is the answer ... as self might perceive it's self as brilliant ... yet be totally loony tunes.
New Age wrote:
No problem, you aren't required to.
So what would you attribute to arriving at an answer?
Since you don't believe in the Self, then please remove "free will" from the list of answers, or any other aspect of your character that has to do with free will.
Thanks!
<quoted text>
"Answer to WHAT??"
- Your statement to me involves a conclusion you made. How did you come to that conclusion?
My conclusion is that your opinions or my opinions of what self should be, are of no value to others unless others agree with those opinions.

So when you keep posting the word self ... I don't know what you believe that accomplishes other than to cause more confusion.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#467288 Jul 30, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I have "no intention" of playing your (once saved-always saved) bible only Protestant "game" of questions and more questions. The only reason you came on this forum Oxbow is "for one purpose" and one purpose ONLY!! To attack, condemn and rip" Jesus Christ and 2000 years of His historically and biblically PROVEN One TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church. I have seen how you "fundies" (con) Anthony, Clay, Regina and other Catholics into your "Protestant (anti-catholic) "loaded question" game using a "bunch" of mis-interpreted (personal opinionated bible verse (answers) to spread your "false and distorted" anti-catholic rif-raf on nonsense!! Go ask your questions to the rest of your 42,000 contradicting and inconsistent other bible only "fundies" and argue, debate and rip each others "relative truth" beliefs.... I/we as Catholics will "continue" to remain with the AUTHORITATIVE and PROVEN TRUTH, believing, worshipping and adhering to the TRUTH of Jesus Christ's One True Catholic Church at Daily Mass, the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible, the Eucharist (Our Lords TRUE body and blood) and the other Sacraments, as billions and billions of Catholics have done (and are still doing) for over 2000 years. You, my friend, can do what you want!!!
Drinking and Praying: Proposal Could Tip Irish Priests Over Legal Limit

Both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland want to lower the legal blood alcohol level for drivers. Priests are afraid it might affect their ability to motor around after Mass.

Bad Blood: Priests in Ireland are concerned that lowering the legal drinking level for drivers might leave them stranded after Mass.

The job description for a Catholic priest doesn't include a lot of perks -- perhaps one reason that their numbers are shrinking rapidly across the Western world. In Ireland, though, the gig might be further complicated by a new proposal to lower the legal blood alcohol limit for drivers. Priests there are speaking out against the proposal because it could render them legally drunk after performing Mass.

Why is it that you are drinking the actual blood of Christ....and the priests in Ireland are not... they are drinking wine that could get them arrested for DUI???!!!!!

Aunt refused to answer that question....you want to have a go at it????

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#467289 Jul 30, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
People who commit crimes or offenses against humanity are not automatically excommunicated, Ro.
Church teaching never required killing anyone. Did people do it? Yes, but not in accord with Church doctrine or dogma. They rationalized their actions via the Church. Bad actors.
The Church is made up of the people who commanded the killings.

Please stop twisting history to be a flavor that sits well on the palette.

It really shows how ignorant you really are to your organization's history.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#467290 Jul 30, 2013
Oxbow wrote:

God created Adam and Eve...A man and a woman...there is no "homosexual" gender. There are heterosexuals who, by their choice, perform sexual deviate acts...that is whom God gave up to a reprobate mine.....
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Homosexual is not a gender.
Do you repeat and agree with what the poster originally stated, in order to stay focussed or to avoid further posts?
marge

Ames, IA

#467292 Jul 30, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
God made people who are homosexual. That orientation is not "reprobate" nor are those who possess that orientation.
You equate 'God gave them over to a reprobate mind', to 'making them homosexual',etc?

So God made them sin?

"God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."
Cracker

Tempe, AZ

#467293 Jul 30, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Considering - per Anthony and Clay - "the Pope is infallible", so his teachings are not in error.
I prefer to think of the popes teachings as marketing.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#467294 Jul 30, 2013
Cracker wrote:
<quoted text>By all means, please take my presence here as gospel that I am committing blasphemeth against yours or any other God. Now does that mean I must be killed for it? Am I to suffer for all eternity? Is that righteousness? Is that mercy? Is that love?
Is that how your all powerful and everliving god delivers his message?
Or for my sins is he going to create another holocaust. He is the creator after all.
Last call...I repeat:

And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
blasphemeth: to vilify; specially, to speak impiously:--(speak) blaspheme(-er,-mously,-my), defame, rail on, revile, speak evil.

I have yet to find an avowed atheist willing, with complete certainty, to seal his fate for all of eternity......would you want to have a go at it?????

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