Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Since: Aug 08

New Year

#466777 Jul 28, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>==========
You can read fine, Rosesez. ere is the "stamp of approval you are speaking of at the end of the article :
NIHIL OBSTAT: I have concluded that the materials
presented in this work are free of doctrinal or moral errors.
Bernadeane Carr, STL, Censor Librorum, August 10, 2004
IMPRIMATUR: In accord with 1983 CIC 827
permission to publish this work is hereby granted.
+Robert H. Brom, Bishop of San Diego, August 10, 2004
Oh I trust the woman who gave me the,site,..But didn't even look fir the imprimatur as she said it was there,..

And I just found Baltimore Catechism
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
There is only one Baltimore Catechism, Rose, and it says that God is our Creator. There have been several editions of the Catechism over the many years of The Church's 2,000 year old history starting with the Didache ca. 70 A.D.
The Catechism today, as the Catechism from 55 years ago, states that God is our Creator. There have been no changes in our teachings. Doctrine cannot be changed. You should have learned that first and foremost. This is what we believe today and have always believed:
I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
(I've never heard of an internet web site having an Imprimatur, lol. Are you sure you heard right?) Evolution when properly understood within the context of Christian teaching is not at odds with Scripture. All creation comes from God. I've not read anything to the contrary so far.
Man is a creature composed of body and soul and made in the image and likeness,of God

No evolving out of other creatures,is mentioned at all

http://catecheticsonline.com/...

NO EVOLUTION FROM OTHER FIRMS,OF BIOLOGICAL.LIFE ..

I can read AND REMEMBER JUST FINE .

AND if I get forgetful ..J have a few bibles ..plus those online

The only religious source that says,anything about DEVELOOING FROM OTHER BIOLOGICAL BEINGS,...the CATHOLIC SITE with Imprimatur

“Unadulterated Grace - Rom 11:6”

Since: Jul 13

Chicagoland

#466778 Jul 28, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Protestant "say what they think" all of the time. That is the basis of their bible only (self interpretation) 42,000 (contradicting denominations) as the editorialize EVERY BIBLE VERSE to their own demise and destruction!........ That is ALL they do!! Verbalize, opinionize and establish their own individual "dogma" of bible only Protestantism..........And then they "throw out" a bunch of (Protestant "loaded") questions regarding Salvation, baptism, etc. EACH ONE OF THEM claiming to possess the truth of what the bible "says", when in fact, what they believe is nothing more than a hodge-podge of "anti-catholic heretical opinionated teaching!!!
Your 42000 is opinion! PROVE ME OTHERWISE, or, show yourself spreading a lie!

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#466779 Jul 28, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
that it carries over into beliefs, such as you mention, the view of the RCC as being "one-dimensional". Little do people know....
The popes of old, sat on their thrones, and gorged themselves as useless drones
“Burn the heretics,” they said, at will …“because it is for God we kill.”
Some followers lived in fear, if they did not kill their brother’s dear,
They would also perish in, the flames of fire popes willed on them
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#466780 Jul 28, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>==========
You can read fine, Rosesez. ere is the "stamp of approval you are speaking of at the end of the article :
NIHIL OBSTAT: I have concluded that the materials
presented in this work are free of doctrinal or moral errors.
Bernadeane Carr, STL, Censor Librorum, August 10, 2004
IMPRIMATUR: In accord with 1983 CIC 827
permission to publish this work is hereby granted.
+Robert H. Brom, Bishop of San Diego, August 10, 2004
Excuse me, but she said the "site", not the "article". But thanks anyway.

Now I really do have to run. Have fun!

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#466781 Jul 28, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
GOD CREATED MAN I N HIS IMAGE.
Before the Catholics seduced the imaginary god of the Jews over to Catholicism ... man had created countless gods and goddesses in their own images.

You are nothing special just because you can read and preach a dogma that you find pleasing to your own imagination.

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Since: Aug 08

New Year

#466782 Jul 28, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>==========
You can read fine, Rosesez. ere is the "stamp of approval you are speaking of at the end of the article :
NIHIL OBSTAT: I have concluded that the materials
presented in this work are free of doctrinal or moral errors.
Bernadeane Carr, STL, Censor Librorum, August 10, 2004
IMPRIMATUR: In accord with 1983 CIC 827
permission to publish this work is hereby granted.
+Robert H. Brom, Bishop of San Diego, August 10, 2004
Found Baltimore CATECHISM 2 same thing

Imagine that ..no science.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#466783 Jul 28, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
We are still apes.
Hominids!
Just like Orangutans, Gorillas and Chimpanzees.
Those in religion are insulted by being of the same family as these animals ... but I take it as a compliment.

At least they don't kill each other over who a god loves and who will spend eternity in hell.

Only humans are infected with such idiocy.

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Since: Aug 08

New Year

#466785 Jul 28, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse me, but she said the "site", not the "article". But thanks anyway.
Now I really do have to run. Have fun!
But did you read what the original number one BALTIMORE CATECHISM says Regina, And number 2

The one we both studied as. Children ..

No descending from.other biological forms ..

Gave you a link to it

http://catecheticsonline.com/...
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#466786 Jul 28, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>you NEED to get your FACTS straight, this is NOT PREACHING the GOSPEL.
Pope shames Brazilian church for Catholic exodus, NOT IS EATING A PIECE OF GRAIN AND DRINKING SOME WINE.
Preaching is TELLING people about Jesus Christ and His Death and His Resurection.
THAT AND THAT ALONE IS WHAT WE CALL PREACHING.
try learning what the Christian Walk is all about, as it stands, you know nothing and please don't insult the intelligence of others on here by claiming to have studied for many years.
It shows that YOU HAVENT LEARNED ANYTHING. BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION THAT YOU HAVE ATENDED A COU[SIN] CHURCH TO THIS MESS THAT YOU ARE NOW PART OF.
You "fundies" just continue to "make up things" as usual which comes as no surprise to "any of us Catholics"! Have you ever heard or read Pope Francis' homilies OR Pope Benedict OR EVEN Pope John Paul II. Obviously not! Because if you had, you would not be spreading the "same old" bible only Protestant" lies and deliberate deception that are "par for the course" with you bible only "fundies"...... ALL three of those Popes have CONSISTENTLY proclaimed, professed and preached Salvation in Jesus Christ through HIS life, death and resurrection, uniting all faiths in the Body and Blood of Jesus......Unfortunately, you bible only "fundies" are so (stuck on anti-catholicism) and your "half-truth, half-heresy" (Christianity????) that the ENTIRE BASIS of your bible only beliefs is TOTALLY DEPENDENT upon attacking and ripping, over 2000 years of the historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One (and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic. Church.

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Since: Aug 08

New Year

#466787 Jul 28, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>==========
You can read fine, Rosesez. ere is the "stamp of approval you are speaking of at the end of the article :
NIHIL OBSTAT: I have concluded that the materials
presented in this work are free of doctrinal or moral errors.
Bernadeane Carr, STL, Censor Librorum, August 10, 2004
IMPRIMATUR: In accord with 1983 CIC 827
permission to publish this work is hereby granted.
+Robert H. Brom, Bishop of San Diego, August 10, 2004
BTW thanks..my friend became A CATHOLIC in her thirties..very much into the whole,teaching thing .

Did not want just any citation.for this group ..I actually thought CLAY was,mistaken on what they teach now,...

Who knew,...

Evidently Holy Scripture is subject to interpretation and CHANGE .

I thanked her and emailed I will stick with Genesis,

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Since: Aug 08

New Year

#466788 Jul 28, 2013
BUT ONKY BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

of course,

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Since: Aug 08

New Year

#466790 Jul 28, 2013
Free Grace 7 wrote:
<quoted text>Man is Tripartite: Spirit, Body and Soul.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_ (theology)#Early_Church
But his body was,NOT developed from other biological forms,.

Btw,I was quoting from THeir.

CATECHISM

We do have body soul and Spirit

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Since: Aug 08

New Year

#466791 Jul 28, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
What "stamp of approval"?? lol
We are still taught that God created man in His image and likeness:
THE DIGNITY OF THE HUMAN PERSON
ARTICLE 1
MAN: THE IMAGE OF GOD
1701 "Christ,... in the very revelation of the mystery of the Father and of his love, makes man fully manifest to himself and brings to light his exalted vocation."2 It is in Christ, "the image of the invisible God,"3 that man has been created "in the image and likeness" of the Creator. It is in Christ, Redeemer and Savior, that the divine image, disfigured in man by the first sin, has been restored to its original beauty and ennobled by the grace of God.4
1702 The divine image is present in every man. It shines forth in the communion of persons, in the likeness of the unity of the divine persons among themselves
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive...
Do you know what is meant by the "image and likeness of God"? Do you think we look like God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth?
I sure think He created A dam and Eve ..they did not evolve from other biological. Firms ..

And yes His image is our souls ..THST does not address your new beliefs on evolution ..of the body .

And on your other questions
WHAT DOES NIHIL OBSTAT Mean

I would not use anything but a bona fide Catholic site for such an important discussion.

It seems to be all over itself giving ground to msn made science THST changes with every new theory ..

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Since: Aug 08

New Year

#466792 Jul 28, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You "fundies" just continue to "make up things" as usual which comes as no surprise to "any of us Catholics"! Have you ever heard or read Pope Francis' homilies OR Pope Benedict OR EVEN Pope John Paul II. Obviously not! Because if you had, you would not be spreading the "same old" bible only Protestant" lies and deliberate deception that are "par for the course" with you bible only "fundies"...... ALL three of those Popes have CONSISTENTLY proclaimed, professed and preached Salvation in Jesus Christ through HIS life, death and resurrection, uniting all faiths in the Body and Blood of Jesus......Unfortunately, you bible only "fundies" are so (stuck on anti-catholicism) and your "half-truth, half-heresy" (Christianity????) that the ENTIRE BASIS of your bible only beliefs is TOTALLY DEPENDENT upon attacking and ripping, over 2000 years of the historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One (and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic. Church.
So why is it when I said to a Catholic poster that John Paul who I did read called for unity .

I was told that we can't have that UNLESS we celebrate the EUCHARIST AS CATHOLICS .

That is not what this great man said .

If I mention other if His talks on apologizing for the past I'M YOLD I am wrong..Did not understand Him .

Maybe NOT you But you all treat us as if we cannot read nor understand .

It's very off putting ..I think if anyone US responsible for subscribe in your Church it's that most honest and humble man ..whose works are very readable

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#466793 Jul 28, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You "fundies" just continue to "make up things" as usual which comes as no surprise to "any of us Catholics"! Have you ever heard or read Pope Francis' homilies OR Pope Benedict OR EVEN Pope John Paul II. Obviously not! Because if you had, you would not be spreading the "same old" bible only Protestant" lies and deliberate deception that are "par for the course" with you bible only "fundies"...... ALL three of those Popes have CONSISTENTLY proclaimed, professed and preached Salvation in Jesus Christ through HIS life, death and resurrection, uniting all faiths in the Body and Blood of Jesus......Unfortunately, you bible only "fundies" are so (stuck on anti-catholicism) and your "half-truth, half-heresy" (Christianity????) that the ENTIRE BASIS of your bible only beliefs is TOTALLY DEPENDENT upon attacking and ripping, over 2000 years of the historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One (and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic. Church.
........Unfortunately, you bible only "fundies" are so (stuck on anti-catholicism) and your "half-truth, half-heresy" (Christianity????) that the ENTIRE BASIS of your bible only beliefs is TOTALLY DEPENDENT upon attacking and ripping, over 2000 years of the historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One (and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic. Church.........Now Hojo, I am not back that far. I am only back to 1054 where it all began....lol
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#466794 Jul 28, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Why was the Bible written? Can you answer that question Mr. 42,000?
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Probably, to re-create the story of the Prodigal Son in Luke 15:11 giving you "fundies" the freedom to rebel, and defy the TRUTH of Bible with your 42,000+ contradicting interpretations, so that you will "eventually" COME TO YOUR SENSES regarding Jesus Christ and His One (and only One) True Apostolic Catholic Church!!
Why not just say you have no idea why the Bible was written?
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#466795 Jul 28, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Man is a creature composed of body and soul and made in the image and likeness,of God
No evolving out of other creatures,is mentioned at all
http://catecheticsonline.com/...
Body, soul and spirit. Not body and soul.

“Unadulterated Grace - Rom 11:6”

Since: Jul 13

Chicagoland

#466796 Jul 28, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
But his body was,NOT developed from other biological forms,.
Btw,I was quoting from THeir.
CATECHISM
We do have body soul and Spirit
Oh, I hear ya

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Since: Aug 08

New Year

#466797 Jul 28, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Body, soul and spirit. Not body and soul.
Yup agree

as I said quoting from the CATECHISM ..as m e one I learned as a kid..

Still not descended from other biological forms as the CATHOLICS now say .

Was trying to MSKE the pint..t h st kerp saying we change SCRIPTURE..reinterpret it .

I will stick to Genesis :)
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#466798 Jul 28, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Page 3 of 3
A Closer Look at Transubstantiation
Yet this doctrine would destroy human nature by having the ability to be in multiple places at one time. Rome teaches that Christ is corporally on the altar but without any “accidents.” Accidents mean color, scent, form, and taste, the very things that make substances discernable. Yet again, we are to deny all logic and sensibility to believe that Christ is present upon the altar!
Christ warned that deceivers would come among us to deceive us and to tell us that He was here or there and that we were not to believe them. Christ also warned us that we were to be on guard against the leaven of the Pharisees, those who teach the precepts of man as the doctrines of God. Again, Rome is at variance with it’s own scholars and the early church fathers, as it teaches a doctrine (Transubstantiation) from men as the precepts of God. With this unbiblical form of teaching in the Roman Catholic Church, is it any wonder that they end up perverting the sacrament of communion by withholding the communion cup from the laity. The Council of Constance in A.D.1414 first formalized this doctrine. Pope Innocent III formalized it later and pronounced it a doctrine and then The Council of Trent (1537) confirmed his heresy. Even though the Council of Constance freely admits,“that the cup was received by all in former times,” they nonetheless go ahead and destroy the sacrament, this precious sacrament that the Lord Jesus Christ himself gave to us.“Do this in remembrance of me”
If you are Roman Catholic, we would ask you to turn to the Holy Scriptures and re-read the passages that teach about this sacrament and see if you can find the doctrine of Transubstantiation without the filter of the Roman Catholic Church. May God open your eyes and may the scales fall from them in order that you may come to His table and enjoy this sacrament, both the bread and the wine, in truth. Then ask yourself can there be salvation in a communion in which it is declared to be a fundamental principle, that the Madonna is ” our greatest hope; yea, the SOLE GROUND OF OUR HOPE ”?(The language of the late Pope Gregory, which is substantially endorsed by the present Pontiff) The time is come when charity to the perishing souls of men, hoodwinked by a Pagan priesthood, abusing the name of Christ, requires that the truth in this matter should be clearly, loudly, unflinchingly proclaimed.
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
oh boy, you really hate the Eucharist don't you? I would say 75% of your posts are trashing it or making fun of the host.
I wonder who's essay this is that you copied. I would like to see the name of this man who changed the Word of God for you.
The scriptures warn us about these men who would come along and preach a different Gospel.
You were given historical facts. Produce facts to refute these historical facts or shut your pie hole. Thank you in advance for shutting your pie hole Cly!!

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