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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 693404 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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OldJG

Rockford, IL

#466445 Jul 27, 2013
WHO SHOULD BE BAPTIZED? WHO IS THE PROPER CANDIDATE?

Only a saved person should be baptized. That means one who has believed on Jesus Christ and by faith has received Him as their personal Savior.

Acts 8:26-39, the Eunuch asked to be baptized. When the Eunuch desired to be baptized Philip said to him, "If thou believeth with all thine heart, thou mayest." The eunuch confessed he did believe and was then baptized. Note that in V38, they left the chariot and went down into the water and after the Eunuch was baptized by immersion they came up out of the water. Clearly this is baptism by immersion.(More will be said on that a little further)

If a lost person is baptized then it is a picture of a lie. If a lost person who has not believed in Jesus Christ and is baptized the symbolism is saying he is confessing he believes in Jesus Christ as his Savior when in fact he does not. No one should be baptized who does not have a clear testimony of believing in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation.

The Biblical mode of Baptism is to be immersed. Sprinkling, pouring, etc. are not biblical modes of baptism. These practices do not picture the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. The Greek word is "baptizo" means to immerse and has no other meaning. When the Bible was being translated the translators were told to translate the word "baptizo "in a neutral way so as not to offend the Roman Catholics who sprinkled or the New Testament churches that immersed. So the translators compromised and transliterated the word baptizo into new English word "baptism." However, the Greek text is emphatic that the word means to immerse or dip into the water. Sprinkling IS NOT BAPTISM. God is very clear on this.

Any other mode of baptism makes light of the death and resurrection of Christ. Those that practice these false methods of baptism have not obeyed the first commandment of their professed Lord. God choose the method of baptism to be a picture of the Gospel the person who is being baptized is identifying himself with Christ.

Baptism is to be done in the name of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Matt. 28:19-20. In this passage, called the "Great Commission" Jesus commanded that believers were to go into the world and preach the Gospel and baptize them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Both the evangelism of the world and baptism were to be done in the name of the Trinity. Biblical baptisms are those that are done by true Bible believing assemblies that follow the New Testament as its sole rule and authority for its faith and practice. God has not given any church or individual the right to change what He put in place and instructed.

“Unadulterated Grace - Rom 11:6”

Since: Jul 13

Chicagoland

#466446 Jul 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know. Do you think the Son of Man can be fully present in the bread and wine, yet... the physical matter remains bread and wine?
No you don't Do you. But because Jesus mentioned the Biblical story of Jonah and the Whale, that means he validated it as an historic factual event?
There is plenty of exegetical ground, to discredit transubstantiation. For starters, it would violate Levitical law (See Leviticus 17), yet, Jesus came to fulfill the law (Mt 5:17), which would be impossible right, if Jesus violated the Levitical law? Unless you can prove, and narrow it down to the Mosaic, this would create a big problem for your doctrine, would it not?
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#466447 Jul 27, 2013
How many popes have visited Israel? How many have visited Jerusalem?

“Unadulterated Grace - Rom 11:6”

Since: Jul 13

Chicagoland

#466448 Jul 27, 2013
Old JG:

I like Acts 10:47 :)

http://biblehub.com/acts/10-47.htm

The Holy Spirit was already received, before the water baptism :)
Clay

Garden City, MI

#466449 Jul 27, 2013
Free Grace 7 wrote:
<quoted text>There is plenty of exegetical ground, to discredit transubstantiation. For starters, it would violate Levitical law (See Leviticus 17), yet, Jesus came to fulfill the law (Mt 5:17), which would be impossible right, if Jesus violated the Levitical law? Unless you can prove, and narrow it down to the Mosaic, this would create a big problem for your doctrine, would it not?
What authority are you to determine such a thing?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#466450 Jul 27, 2013
StarC wrote:
Catholic and Protestant, over 1 million come to hear Pope Francis.
God Bless Pope Francis!
Pope Francis News In Rio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UzO5dPvlP3AXX
starc said:
Oxbow wrote:
What is the source of this statement?? "Holy Eucharist was practiced by ALL the Apostles and their disciples."

Luke 24:34-35
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Luke 24:34-35 has nothing to do with "Holy Eucharist"!!!!!

"When he broke bread", which that people used to do, and as the Jews still do today at the beginning of their meals and say a prayer......
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#466451 Jul 27, 2013
MARIAN HERESY
The popular Roman Catholic dogma of the "Immaculate Heart" has no basis in the Bible, but comes out of the realm of the occult. Here we have a magical source of power and protection.

The "Immaculate Heart" is depicted as a visible object glowing within the bosom of Jesus or Mary, and often held in Mary's hand. Devotion is directed to this mystical object in what becomes a subtle replacement of a personal relationship with Christ and devotion to Him. A primary purpose of the apparition of Fatima was to encourage devotion to this so-called Immaculate Heart of Mary.

In fact, this is borne out by another related Roman Catholic dogma: the Immaculate Conception. That heresy was first popularized through the efforts of British monk Eadmer in the twelfth century and was at last declared a dogma by Pope Pius IX in 1854. It teaches that Mary was "from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of Almighty God, in view of the merits of Christ Jesus the Savior of mankind, preserved free from all stain of original sin" and that she remained without sin during her life.

Such is the false and idolatrous "Blessed Virgin Mary" of Roman Catholicism - an insult both to God and to the Mary of the Bible. She is looked to for the very pardon of sins and salvation that Christ procured with His own blood, and which He freely dispenses by grace to all who believe in Him. In the end, the denial of Mary's place as a "sinner saved by grace" has the effect of deifying her.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466452 Jul 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
I love the way that the wisdom of the Bible laughs at the 'wisdom' of men!
Especially the part about you steering the words in the bible to love you and make sure that the bible denies others the same love.

That bible is a REAL charm-bracelet for those of low mentality.

“Unadulterated Grace - Rom 11:6”

Since: Jul 13

Chicagoland

#466453 Jul 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
What authority are you to determine such a thing?
James 3:1/1 Jo 2:27

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#466454 Jul 27, 2013
Free Grace 7 wrote:
<quoted text>There is plenty of exegetical ground, to discredit transubstantiation. For starters, it would violate Levitical law (See Leviticus 17), yet, Jesus came to fulfill the law (Mt 5:17), which would be impossible right, if Jesus violated the Levitical law? Unless you can prove, and narrow it down to the Mosaic, this would create a big problem for your doctrine, would it not?
When Christ referred to His body as bread...He was speaking metaphorically...not in the literal sense...otherwise He would be teaching cannibalism....

The Lord's Supper is a symbolic act of obedience whereby members of the church, through partaking of the bread and the fruit of the vine, memorialize the death of the Redeemer and anticipate His second coming.

Matthew 3:13-17; 26:26-30; 28:19-20; Mark 1:9-11; 14:22-26; Luke 3:21-22; 22:19-20; John 3:23; Acts 2:41-42; 8:35-39; 16:30-33; 20:7; Romans 6:3-5; 1 Corinthians 10:16,21; 11:23-29; Colossians 2:12.

“Unadulterated Grace - Rom 11:6”

Since: Jul 13

Chicagoland

#466455 Jul 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
What authority are you to determine such a thing?
What Authority do you have to request Such a answer? Please source
Clay

Garden City, MI

#466456 Jul 27, 2013
Free Grace 7 wrote:
<quoted text>I quoted noted Everett Ferguson too, but who's counting?:)
Will this suffice, since you have not answered to it...yet?
In the Catholic Encyclopedia’s article on the “sacrifice of the mass,” it says this:“Passing over the teaching of the Alexandrine Clement and Origen, whose love of allegory, together with the restrictions of the Disciplina Arcani [Latin term meaning discipline of the secret], involved their writings in mystic obscurity…”
Ummmm You were saying.....?
I read Clements full opinion on the Eucharist, and I do not believe he's denying the real presence.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#466457 Jul 27, 2013
Free Grace 7 wrote:
<quoted text>James 3:1/1 Jo 2:27
Those verses give you the authority to determine the sacred teachings of Jesus Christ based on your interpretations of your Bible?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466458 Jul 27, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Rather it is better to worship Jesus, who is the Truth, the Way, and the Life....
Stay focused on Jesus, not what people think about him, or interpret from the Bible....
If you believe that Protestants will be saved by this miracle worker of a Jew named Jesus ... why did you become a Catholic?

And by the way Robert, do you believe that Jesus cared so little for other humans who were not Christian that he supported his father's will to deny them salvation?

You people are so ignorant of thought that you ARE the living dead!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#466459 Jul 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
What authority are you to determine such a thing?
The same authority all Christians have...reading from the Sacred Word of God being led by the Holy Spirit....

But...even you, using common sense, the human intellect, know, but will not acknowledge the fact, that reading the Scripture where He refers to His body as bread, when read in the literal sense, as you do, teaches cannibalize...nothin' else...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466460 Jul 27, 2013
Free Grace 7 wrote:
<quoted text>I was expressing my disinterest in discussing with you. Sure, you can comment to me, but then again, I can ignore someone who cares less about facts, evidence and truth. So beit
So you have facts, evidence and truth that the new testament was sponsored and supported by a Jew who even if he lived had been dead for well over three centuries.

You have words written by Catholics ... period

Nothing but arrogance would claim your myths are based on truth and other myths are based on lies.

To be FAIR you would have to admit that religion is ALL bunk!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#466461 Jul 27, 2013
OldJG wrote:
WHO SHOULD BE BAPTIZED? WHO IS THE PROPER CANDIDATE?
Only a saved person should be baptized. That means one who has believed on Jesus Christ and by faith has received Him as their personal Savior.
Acts 8:26-39, the Eunuch asked to be baptized. When the Eunuch desired to be baptized Philip said to him, "If thou believeth with all thine heart, thou mayest." The eunuch confessed he did believe and was then baptized. Note that in V38, they left the chariot and went down into the water and after the Eunuch was baptized by immersion they came up out of the water. Clearly this is baptism by immersion.(More will be said on that a little further)
If a lost person is baptized then it is a picture of a lie. If a lost person who has not believed in Jesus Christ and is baptized the symbolism is saying he is confessing he believes in Jesus Christ as his Savior when in fact he does not. No one should be baptized who does not have a clear testimony of believing in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation.
The Biblical mode of Baptism is to be immersed. Sprinkling, pouring, etc. are not biblical modes of baptism. These practices do not picture the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. The Greek word is "baptizo" means to immerse and has no other meaning. When the Bible was being translated the translators were told to translate the word "baptizo "in a neutral way so as not to offend the Roman Catholics who sprinkled or the New Testament churches that immersed. So the translators compromised and transliterated the word baptizo into new English word "baptism." However, the Greek text is emphatic that the word means to immerse or dip into the water. Sprinkling IS NOT BAPTISM. God is very clear on this.
Any other mode of baptism makes light of the death and resurrection of Christ. Those that practice these false methods of baptism have not obeyed the first commandment of their professed Lord. God choose the method of baptism to be a picture of the Gospel the person who is being baptized is identifying himself with Christ.
Baptism is to be done in the name of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Matt. 28:19-20. In this passage, called the "Great Commission" Jesus commanded that believers were to go into the world and preach the Gospel and baptize them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Both the evangelism of the world and baptism were to be done in the name of the Trinity. Biblical baptisms are those that are done by true Bible believing assemblies that follow the New Testament as its sole rule and authority for its faith and practice. God has not given any church or individual the right to change what He put in place and instructed.
Gospel truth!!!! Undeniably true....
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466462 Jul 27, 2013
An empty tomb is not proof that a man named Jesus ever walked the earth.

Not one grave exists anywhere ... even of the supposed saint MARY ... mother of this supposed savior.

Not a grave of an apostle.

It's amazing where those carcasses all went, so that nothing can be dug up to check their "remains."

Myths HAVE no remains.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Willow River, Canada

#466463 Jul 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Gospel truth!!!! Undeniably true....
Does that mean that YOU will spend eternity in hell for being a heretic???

:)

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#466464 Jul 27, 2013
Free Grace 7 wrote:
<quoted text>I quoted noted Everett Ferguson too, but who's counting?:)
Will this suffice, since you have not answered to it...yet?
In the Catholic Encyclopedia’s article on the “sacrifice of the mass,” it says this:“Passing over the teaching of the Alexandrine Clement and Origen, whose love of allegory, together with the restrictions of the Disciplina Arcani [Latin term meaning discipline of the secret], involved their writings in mystic obscurity…”
Ummmm You were saying.....?
Info for Clay...

Everett Ferguson (born February 18, 1933) currently serves as Distinguished Scholar in Residence at Abilene Christian University in Abilene, Texas. He is author of numerous books on early Christian studies and served as co-editor of the Journal of Early Christian Studies.

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