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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 687224 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464620 Jul 22, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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ORGANUZED RELIGION
sometimes has very little to do with belief in Christ.
Of course it does!!! The theologians have organized your thoughts to accept that without a belief in Jesus you will go to hell.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#464621 Jul 22, 2013
To make intercession—There was but the one offering on earth once for all. But the intercession for us in the heavens (Heb 7:26) is ever continuing, whence the result follows, that we can never be separated from the love of God in Christ. He intercedes only for those who come unto God through Him, not for the unbelieving world (Joh 17:9). As samples of His intercession, compare the prophetical descriptions in the Old Testament. "By an humble omnipotency (for it was by His humiliation that He obtained all power), or omnipotent humility, appearing in the presence, and presenting His postulations at the throne of God" [Bishop Pearson]. He was not only the offering, but the priest who offered it. Therefore, He has become not only a sacrifice, but an intercessor; His intercession being founded on His voluntary offering of Himself without spot to God. We are not only then in virtue of His sacrifice forgiven, but in virtue of the intercession admitted to favor and grace [Archbishop Magee].

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#464622 Jul 22, 2013
who="RoSesz"
Ok I do believe This..We must maintain Faith.
Your?? Posts,yesterday seemed to be saying a Saved person who sins
Has,crucified Christ..made His blood not cover new sin
And there is no repentance
And this was confusing ..as if the SPIRIT convicts you and you repent ..can you not be reconciled..especially if your s inning ..had nothing to do with going to say belief in Apollo ..
You still believe Jesus is Lord ..never deny Him..But DON'T we all sin
And some people may even turn away by say not praying or getting bogged down in other things..
Just saying if He looks for LOST SHEEP His Father gave Him ..won't He want us back ..Not make it that we have shut the door behind us.

**********

There is NONE that sins not...the Bible says so. Sometimes we 'miss the mark'...we fall short of the glory of God.

Does He forsake us? NEVER. Jesus said that "I will NEVER forsake you."

Jesus made it plain that God would forgive us. I John 1:7-10.

KayMarie
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464623 Jul 22, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
PS.
I many times on this forum have not capitalized the name of Jesus
WOW! Do you think that if that Jew exists he is impressed with a capital letter ... while you at the same time insinuate that he left his Jewish religion to wipe away your Christian "sins?"

You must imagine Jesus as a sucker for a tall tale!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464624 Jul 22, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
And you can't offend me no matter how hard you try.
:)
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#464625 Jul 22, 2013
In the words of Timothy Ware (known as Greek Orthodox Bishop Kallistos) in The Orthodox Church,(1993 edition, Penguin Press, pages 259-260) he states:

"The Orthodox Church calls Mary all-holy, immaculate, free from actual sin. The Orthodox Church has never made any formal and definitive pronouncement on the matter of the Immaculate Conception. In the past, individual Orthodox theologians have made statements that, if not definitively affirming the Doctrine of Immaculate Conception, at any rate closely approach it. But since 1854, the great majority of Orthodox reject it as necessary; as implying a false understanding of original sin; as suspecting the doctrine because it seems to separate Mary from the rest of the descendants of Adam and Eve, putting her in a different class. However, if an individual Orthodox today felt impelled to believe it, he could not be termed a heretic for doing so."

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#464626 Jul 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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When I was still under the spell of religion I didn't ask why "god" took my baby when she five months of age, because although I was devastated at her loss, I believed she was no longer suffering. But I did ask why god allowed babies to be born simply to suffer sometimes for many years and then die from starvation-related diseases.
Now I don't believe that a god exists, so I no longer wonder why suffering of all forms of life exists.
If you find yourself standing before God at the Great White Throne Judgment Seat, you can ask Him face to face.....but it will be too late to be of any benefit to you.....the ball game, at that time, will be over...

At one time in my life, I clenched my fist at God, berated Him, and denied He existed, because of circumstances in my life that destroyed my will to live...

God did not give up on me, even though I turned my back to Him...He is there with you and you know it....that is why you did not walk through that door that once entered there is no way to return...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464627 Jul 22, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Very sad, CF. Some 'religious' people are 'religious' but their 'head' is not Christ Jesus.
If your head was the head of Jesus, you would be preaching Judaism ... not Protestantism.

Even Mary Magdalene (within the theology) knew enough to refer to Jesus as Rabboni ... which in the language of the Jews means great master.

She didn't refer to him as father (priest) but rather as Rabboni great Jewish Master.

Do you GET that ... or don't you WANT to get it?
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Signs & Symbols in Christian Art

The Appearances.

The first person to whom Christ is reported to have appeared is Mary Magdalene, when she went to His tomb. She didn’t recognize Jesus, whom she supposed to be the gardener, until he spoke her name.‘Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni
Clay

Lawrence, MA

#464628 Jul 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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If you are going to use this argument against Jesus' Apostles, then the same logic would have to be applied to a good protion of the NT.
- "John" - unknown author
- "Mark" - unknown author
- "Matthew" - unknown author
"Paul's letters" - a few are NOT written by "Paul", even he admits this
- 2 Timothy - a "Pastoral" is considered not written by him
- Hebrews - is also another that was considered penned to refute Gnosticism
You argument is failing.
Hypocrite.
hypocrite you say? I agree with you. Many Books of the NT were likely not written by the 12 Apostles. Paul probably had Luke write some and perhaps Clement (Peters successor).
Even 2Peter was probably written by one of His Disciples according to some Biblical scholars.

You have no way of knowing if the Gospel of Thomas is authentic or any texts of the Bible. We are both relying do the declaration of men. I rely on the authority of the Catholic Church. You rely on yourself.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464629 Jul 22, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
There is NONE that sins not
But your sins are automatically erased simply because you believe a Jew named Jesus is continually mopping up after you.

You sin ... he wipes ... you sin ... he wipes ... you sin ... he wipes.

And then on top of that expectation, you are certain you deserve heaven for taking advantage of "Jesus'" good nature by insinuating that he left Judaism in the dust to accommodate your Protestant religion.

You take a whole LOT for granted, and you call it love.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#464630 Jul 22, 2013
bible examiner wrote:
<quoted text> The bible was written by bored over heated goat herders.Yes to escape the hot desert heat the goat herders would go to a cool cave to write faiytales while eating mushrooms with side effects.The more mushrooms they ate the crazier the storys became.Oh the wild and crazy goat herders hah?
==
You are mistaken. Sounds like you are talking about the United States Congress
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464631 Jul 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
hypocrite you say? I agree with you. Many Books of the NT were likely not written by the 12 Apostles. Paul probably had Luke write some and perhaps Clement (Peters successor).
Even 2Peter was probably written by one of His Disciples according to some Biblical scholars.
You have no way of knowing if the Gospel of Thomas is authentic or any texts of the Bible. We are both relying do the declaration of men. I rely on the authority of the Catholic Church. You rely on yourself.
Those early Catholic theologians screwed the Jews out of their own god. You know it! You see it, but you won't admit it.

According to the one-god dogma of the Jews there was only one god and that god was created by the Jews to favor ONLY the Jews as his chosen few.

Catholics could have created their own image of a god, but they wouldn't ... so they stated that the god "in reality" favored ONLY Catholics ... NOT Jews.

God theft is not honest ... even within the framework of nonsensical, mythical theology.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#464632 Jul 22, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Where does the Bible tell us Ananias and Sapphira were believers. Just wondering.
<quoted text>
Then you and nobody else will enter heaven. You are a liar and so are the rest of us. Now what Mr. Brilliant?
Romans 3:10-18, 10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 hey are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 13 Their throat [is] an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps [is] under their lips: 14 Whose mouth [is] full of cursing and bitterness: 15 Their feet [are] swift to shed blood: 16 Destruction and misery [are] in their ways: 17 And the way of peace have they not known: 18 There is no fear of God before their eyes."
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>where did I lie, mr old jg> WHERE DID I LIE?
AND AGAIN, IN ACT CHAPTER 4, IT TELLS US ABOUT THE BELIEVERS AND THOSE TWO WERE COUNTED IN THIS GROUP.
Have you ever told a lie? EVER? If so, you are a liar. Have you ever looked at a woman lustfully? EVER? If so, you are an adulterer. Have you ever taken something that does not belong to you? If so, you are a thief! Have you ever gotten angry? If so, you are a murderer! Any quesitons?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#464633 Jul 22, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You know as much about the prodigal son as you do on this subject matter...nada...zilch..
Does the following teach that Christ is God????
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
~~~

ALL I CAN GIVE YOU IS THE WORD OF GOD...

Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and

his name shall be called

Wonderful,

Counsellor,

The mighty God,

The everlasting Father,

The Prince of Peace.

~~~~~~~~~

NOW YOU CAN ARGUE/DEBATE.... WITH THE

MESSIANIC PROPHET ...

ISAIAH...

I conclude that God knows his son's name...

I thank you should too

I WILL TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT...
Clay

Lawrence, MA

#464634 Jul 22, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>on the issue of OSAS< GIF and myself are ON the same side. speaking of what the Bible teaches. Both of us are on the same page about the Prodigal Son being Israel.
so neither of us are Preaching anything different, Both of us, contrary to oxbores thinking, believe in the Baptism of the Holy Ghost as a definite Work of Grace, with our difference in that I havent spoke in tongues and he does.
SO YOU ARE WRONG, LIKE ALWAYS
Ok, so you and Confrint are on the same page. But Oldg, Chuck and 4gvn are not. And depending what day it is. One of you two will have LTM and Mar? And we all agree that Ox is off in the corner playing in the sand box.

I still say this is a serious issue. If I'm new to religion and I seek Christ. I can go into OldJG's church and his Pastor will tell me to come to the alter and I will be saved. Once saved, always saved.

Then if I go into your church you'll tell me to come to the alter to get saved, BUT I now need to cooperate with this grace and endure til my death. For I could fall back into sin and lose my salvation. Right?

I say one of you two groups are in trouble for not preaching the will of God. One of you two obviously does not have the Holy Spirit bringing you to Biblical truth.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464635 Jul 22, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
If you find yourself standing before God at the Great White Throne Judgment Seat, you can ask Him face to face
If that occurs I will address him as Rabboni "Great master of Judaism," and then I will ask him why the hell he created evil.

:)

But as I don't believe in the existence of any human-created images of gods, I doubt that such a scenario will ever occur.
bible examainer

Rolling Meadows, IL

#464636 Jul 22, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>==
You are mistaken. Sounds like you are talking about the United States Congress
Heck no jack.They dont know one name of who wrote the bible.Why would everyone follow a book of unknown authors?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464637 Jul 22, 2013
Even the Jewish theologians don't agree on their dogmas.

Some believe their salvation is guaranteed because they are already God's chosen few ... and others believe that a messiah is still coming to save God's "elite" members and take them to Olam Ha Ba to be with God for eternity.

Then there are other Jews that believe in reincarnation.

Religion is not only BUNK ... it's a complete mess of infighters squabbling comparable to drunks in a pub ... with none of them making a whit of common sense.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#464638 Jul 22, 2013
bible examainer wrote:
<quoted text> Heck no jack.They dont know one name of who wrote the bible.Why would everyone follow a book of unknown authors?
A whole lot of nitwits, guiding other nitwits to be nitwits.
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From the book “Smith’s Bible Dictionary.

Bible

There are at least thirty six different authors, who wrote in three continents, in many countries, in three languages, and from every possible human standpoint. Among these authors were kings, farmers, mechanics, scientific men, lawyers, generals, fishermen, ministers and priests, a tax-collector, a doctor, some rich, some poor, some city bred, some country born—thus touching all the experiences of men—extending over 1500 years.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#464639 Jul 22, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>do you have any degrees in Science?
Does it matter if I do?

Do you have a degree in "God" inspired writings?

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