Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464236 Jul 21, 2013
Catholics would be HIGHLY indignant if anyone suggested that a pope CHOSE to leave the Catholic religion to start a Protestant religion.

Yet that is exactly what Catholic theologians suggested occurred in the lives of Jesus, his mother, and all the apostles except Judas. They stated in no uncertain terms that those Jews chose to become unfaithful to Judaism in preference to start the new religion of Catholicism.

If you people don't wake up of your own accord, no one can do it for you. You will keep lying to yourselves and your children in order to believe that Catholics are now the only special ones to a Jewish god.

Ridiculous!
Chess

Columbus, OH

#464237 Jul 21, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
GROSS GOSSIP.
naked men ..!!!!!""" "&&$$$
IMO secret Mark. Should have remained on the desk of the person who wrote it..along with. some of those other SECRET gospels..the ones,having Him marridd to the Magdalene..
It's gossip.And IMO blasphemous ..tryin to paint Jesus,either way..
But hey sell it to Dan Brown ..right up his alley
Hon, none had him married to the Magdalene, though one gnostic gospel had him kissing her on her [lips?]. Which raises the question, "Which lips?"

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464238 Jul 21, 2013
Insane theology

To believe that a Jew's mother became a Catholic saint ... would be as credible as believing a Catholic pope's mother became a Protestant saint.

Picture it, if you will.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464239 Jul 21, 2013
Why people indicate that I am an Atheist minister of religion, is simply their lame claim of insisting that Atheists are in a religion.

I was under the spell of religion before I became an Atheist. Now I don't have faith in ANY religion including my own previously preferred religious theology.
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re·li·gion

Noun

1.The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.

http://www.google.ca/#gs_rn=21&gs_ri=psy-...

Chess

Columbus, OH

#464240 Jul 21, 2013
Speaking of Jesus and sex:

The most sexually blunt Gnostic gospel comes to us only through a short quote in a text from Epiphanius, a fourth century orthodox Christian.

According to Epiphanius, a group of Gnostics Christian he identifies as Phibionites possessed a gospel called the Greater Questions of Mary.

Epiphanius is a vitriolic and often unreliable source, so one must approach his quote from this otherwise unknown Gnostic text with some caution.

But if his account is accurate, this gospel depicted Jesus eating his own semen while Mary Magdalene looks on:
Epiphanius wrote:
For in the so-called Greater Questions of Mary – they have forged “Lesser” ones too – they suggest that [Jesus] revealed it to her after taking her aside on the mountain, praying, producing a woman from his side, beginning to have intercourse with her, and then partaking of his emission, if you please, to show that “Thus we must do, that we may live.” And when Mary was alarmed and fell to the ground, he raised her up and said to her,“O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?'“*
Orthodox Christians.

Go figure.

*Ehrman's translation

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464241 Jul 21, 2013
Preachers of most all religions are filled with pride!

"Follow the words in my holy book the way 'I' follow them and you are sure to have eternal bliss in a hereafter. But if don't follow my lead, which is parallel to the lead of the one (ones) on high ... bad things will occur for you, as the god (gods) are always on my side ... supporting me and the words I choose from my holy book."

YUCK!

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464242 Jul 21, 2013
Chess wrote:
Speaking of Jesus and sex:
The most sexually blunt Gnostic gospel comes to us only through a short quote in a text from Epiphanius, a fourth century orthodox Christian.
According to Epiphanius, a group of Gnostics Christian he identifies as Phibionites possessed a gospel called the Greater Questions of Mary.
Epiphanius is a vitriolic and often unreliable source, so one must approach his quote from this otherwise unknown Gnostic text with some caution.
But if his account is accurate, this gospel depicted Jesus eating his own semen while Mary Magdalene looks on:
<quoted text>
Orthodox Christians.
Go figure.
*Ehrman's translation
Theologians had nothing "better" to do than write silly stuff.
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The church father Epiphanius records that the Borborites[6] and other libertine Gnostic sects[7] consumed semen as the Body of Christ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464243 Jul 21, 2013
More silly stuff written by theologians.
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Holy Prepuce

At various points in history, a number of churches in Europe have claimed to possess Jesus' foreskin, sometimes at the same time. Various miraculous powers have been ascribed to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Prepuce
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#464244 Jul 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Religion is BUNK!
Correction: Self-appointed (bible only) preachers and self-interpreting "editorializing religions) are BUNK!

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464245 Jul 21, 2013
Insane theology

Had mother Mary obeyed the Israelite law, she would not in any lifetime have willingly become a Catholic saint. She would forever be faithful to Judaism.
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From the book Signs & Symbols in Christian Art

The Purification

Mary, the mother of Christ , being of the Israelite faith, obeyed the law.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464246 Jul 21, 2013
Jews don't and never did "willingly" become Catholics any more than Catholics willingly became or become Jews.

If people are faithful to their own religions, mountains won't move them to change their patterns. If they change religions they are taught from childhood that GOD on high will punish them for not being "faithful."

You know it and I know it.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464247 Jul 21, 2013
From my perception, Mother Teresa saw the stupidity in her Catholic religion ... but she stuck to it because she was taught that to leave it was to burn in hell ... and she took that as very serious stuff indeed.

Imagine how hopeless she felt among those in India who outnumbered her and refused to become Catholics. She must have been completely overwhelmed in the idea that she couldn't save them from eternal hell even though that is what god expected of her.

Religion is wretched BUNK!

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#464248 Jul 21, 2013
Chess wrote:
Speaking of Jesus and sex:

edited for space

According to Epiphanius, a group of Gnostics Christian he identifies as Phibionites possessed a gospel called the Greater Questions of Mary.
Epiphanius is a vitriolic and often unreliable source, so one must approach his quote from this otherwise unknown Gnostic text with some caution.
But if his account is accurate, this gospel depicted Jesus eating his own semen while Mary Magdalene looks on:
<quoted text>
Orthodox Christians.
Go figure.
*Ehrman's translation
According to the Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis (ch. 26), and Theodoret's Haereticarum Fabularum Compendium, the Borborites or Borborians (also Koddians; in Egypt, Phibionites; in other countries, Barbalites, Secundians, Socratites, etc.) were a libertine Gnostic sect, said to be descended from the Nicolaitans.
The word "Borborite" comes from the Greek word &#914;&#972;&#961; &#946;&#959;&#961; &#959;&#962;, meaning "mud"; thus "Borborites" could be translated as "filthy ones".
They taught that there were eight heavens, each under a separate archon. In the seventh reigned Sabaoth, creator of heaven and earth, the God of the Jews, represented by some Borborites under the form of an ass or a hog; hence the Jewish prohibition of swine's flesh. In the eighth heaven reigned Barbelo, the mother of the living; the Father of All, the supreme God; and Christ. They denied that Christ was born of Mary, or had a real body; and also the resurrection of the body.
The Borborites possessed certain sacred books, one called Noria (the name they gave to Noah's wife), a Gospel of Eve, Books of Seth, Revelations of Adam, etc. They used both the Old and New Testament, but did not acknowledge the God of the Old Testament as the supreme deity.
They taught that there were eight heavens, each under a separate archon. In the seventh reigned Sabaoth, creator of heaven and earth, the God of the Jews, represented by some Borborites under the form of an ass or a hog; hence the Jewish prohibition of swine's flesh.
In the eighth heaven reigned Barbelo, the mother of the living; the Father of All, the supreme God; and Christ. They denied that Christ was born of Mary, or had a real body; and also the resurrection of the body.
The human soul after death wanders through the seven heavens, until it obtains rest with Barbelo. Man possesses a soul in common with plants and beasts. According to Augustine they taught that the soul was derived from the substance of God, and hence could not be polluted by contact with matter.
Sexual sacramentalism[edit]
Epiphanius says the Borborites were inspired by Sethianism and had as a distinct feature of their rituals elements of sexual sacramentalism, including smearing of hands with menstrual blood and semen, and consumption of the same as a variant of eucharist.
They were also said to extract fetuses from pregnant women and consume them, particularly if the women accidentally became pregnant during related sexual rituals.
Epiphanius claimed to have some first-hand knowledge of the sect, and to have run away from certain Gnostic women who reproached him
thus:
We have not been able to save the young man, but rather, have abandoned him to the clutches of the ruler!
—Epiphanius, Panarion, 26, 17.6
Epiphanius later reported the group to the bishops, resulting in the expulsion of around 80 people from the city of Alexandria.
As all these tellings about the Barborites come from their opponents, it is unknown if they are true or exaggerated. Stephen Gero finds them plausible and connected with earlier Gnostic myths.
Barbotiesa were Gnostics, not Orthodox. There were some Gnostics even further out than these. The Orthodox protected the Faith from these ideas.
Epiphanius later reported the group to the bishops, resulting in the expulsion of around 80 people from the city of Alexandria.
Interesting post . Thanx.
Chess

Columbus, OH

#464249 Jul 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Theologians had nothing "better" to do than write silly stuff.
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The church father Epiphanius records that the Borborites[6] and other libertine Gnostic sects[7] consumed semen as the Body of Christ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus
So maybe *he* was obsessed with semen, eh?

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#464250 Jul 21, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Herme:
I consider Gregory of Nyssa my patron saint. I find his teachings extraordinary and soothing....
Absolutely. None better

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#464251 Jul 21, 2013
Insane theology

You see what Catholic theologians did with their pens at the ready!

Mary being of the Jewish faith would not have been married by a priest. She would have been married by a rabbi.

You know it and I know it.
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From the book Signs & Symbols in Christian Art

The Marriage of the Virgin

The marriage ceremony itself is often depicted in front of the temple, with many people present. The priest, standing in the middle, joins the hands of the bride and groom.
Chess

Columbus, OH

#464252 Jul 21, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>According to the Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis (ch. 26), and Theodoret's Haereticarum Fabularum Compendium, the Borborites or Borborians (also Koddians; in Egypt, Phibionites; in other countries, Barbalites, Secundians, Socratites, etc.) were a libertine Gnostic sect, said to be descended from the Nicolaitans.
The word "Borborite" comes from the Greek word &#914;&#972;&#961; &#946;&#959;&#961; &#959;&#962;, meaning "mud"; thus "Borborites" could be translated as "filthy ones".
They taught that there were eight heavens, each under a separate archon. In the seventh reigned Sabaoth, creator of heaven and earth, the God of the Jews, represented by some Borborites under the form of an ass or a hog; hence the Jewish prohibition of swine's flesh. In the eighth heaven reigned Barbelo, the mother of the living; the Father of All, the supreme God; and Christ. They denied that Christ was born of Mary, or had a real body; and also the resurrection of the body.
The Borborites possessed certain sacred books, one called Noria (the name they gave to Noah's wife), a Gospel of Eve, Books of Seth, Revelations of Adam, etc. They used both the Old and New Testament, but did not acknowledge the God of the Old Testament as the supreme deity.
They taught that there were eight heavens, each under a separate archon. In the seventh reigned Sabaoth, creator of heaven and earth, the God of the Jews, represented by some Borborites under the form of an ass or a hog; hence the Jewish prohibition of swine's flesh.
In the eighth heaven reigned Barbelo, the mother of the living; the Father of All, the supreme God; and Christ. They denied that Christ was born of Mary, or had a real body; and also the resurrection of the body.
The human soul after death wanders through the seven heavens, until it obtains rest with Barbelo. Man possesses a soul in common with plants and beasts. According to Augustine they taught that the soul was derived from the substance of God, and hence could not be polluted by contact with matter.
Sexual sacramentalism[edit]
Epiphanius says the Borborites were inspired by Sethianism and had as a distinct feature of their rituals elements of sexual sacramentalism, including smearing of hands with menstrual blood and semen, and consumption of the same as a variant of eucharist.
They were also said to extract fetuses from pregnant women and consume them, particularly if the women accidentally became pregnant during related sexual rituals.
Epiphanius claimed to have some first-hand knowledge of the sect, and to have run away from certain Gnostic women who reproached him
thus:
We have not been able to save the young man, but rather, have abandoned him to the clutches of the ruler!
—Epiphanius, Panarion, 26, 17.6
Epiphanius later reported the group to the bishops, resulting in the expulsion of around 80 people from the city of Alexandria.
As all these tellings about the Barborites come from their opponents, it is unknown if they are true or exaggerated. Stephen Gero finds them plausible and connected with earlier Gnostic myths.
Barbotiesa were Gnostics, not Orthodox. There were some Gnostics even further out than these. The Orthodox protected the Faith from these ideas.
Epiphanius later reported the group to the bishops, resulting in the expulsion of around 80 people from the city of Alexandria.
Interesting post . Thanx.
Hey, goofy, we don't plagiarize here.

We cite our sources.

We'll except for the thieves among us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borborites
Chess

Columbus, OH

#464253 Jul 21, 2013
We'll - Well

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#464254 Jul 21, 2013
So the one true Church ignores God's Word!

103 Bible Verses about Obeying Authority

http://www.openbible.info/topics/obeying_auth...

They ignored this while 10 Popes KNEW children were being raped! And not once informed the police!

And now they have joined the Mormons in trying to make religious discrimination legal based on one's religious freedom!
Chess

Columbus, OH

#464255 Jul 21, 2013
DNF wrote:
...
And now they have joined the Mormons in trying to make religious discrimination legal based on one's religious freedom!
You might maybe wanna think that last thought through again.

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