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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#463653 Jul 19, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
Jesus appointed St. Peter. St. Peter appointed a successor, he appointed successors. It contiunues to this very day.
You picked up a KJV and appointed yourself.
Not even close.

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God appoints His own successors by the Holy Spirit.

Heb 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, CHRIST JESUS;

Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that IS passed into the heavens, JESUS THE SON OF GOD, let us hold fast our profession.
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the (HIS) throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Heb 7:6 But he (Melchizedek) whose descent is not counted from them (Levitical priests) received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
Heb 7:7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.
Heb 7:8 And HERE men that die receive tithes; but THERE (heaven) He receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he LIVES.
Heb 7:9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who received tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
Heb 7:10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him.
Heb 7:11 IF THEREFORE PERFECTION WERE BY THE Levitical priesthood (OF SUCCESSION),(for under it the people received the law,) WHAT FURTHER NEED WAS THERE THAT ANOTHER PRIEST SHOULD RISE AFTER THE ORDER OF Melchizedek, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertains to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
Heb 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Judah; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Heb 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchizedek there arose another priest (Jesus, our High Priest),
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life (only Jesus).
Heb 7:17 For He testifies, Thou are a priest FOREVER after the order of Melchizedek.
Heb 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Heb 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Heb 7:20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:
Heb 7:21 (For those priests...men...were made without an oath; but this...Jesus...with an oath by him that said unto him, "THE LORD SWORE AND WILL NOT REPENT, YOU ARE A PRIEST FOREVER AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHIDEZEK:)
Heb 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety (guarantee) of a better testament.
Heb 7:23 And they truly were many priests, because THEY WERE NOT SUFFERED TO CONTINUE BY REASON OF DEATH:
Heb 7:24 But this man (JESUS), BECAUSE HE CONTINUES FOREVER, HAS AN UNCHANGEABLE PRIESTHOOD.
Heb 7:25 Wherefore HE is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God BY HIM, seeing HE EVER LIVES TO MAKE INTERCESSION FOR THEM.
Heb 7:26 For SUCH AN HIGH PRIEST, who IS HOLY, HARMLESS, UNDEFILED, SEPARATE FROM SINNERS, and MADE HIGHER THAN THE HEAVENS;
Heb 7:27 Who NEEDS NOT DAILY, AS THOSE high priests (mortal men), to offer up sacrifice, FIRST FOR HIS OWN SINS, AND THEN FOR THE PEOPLE'S: FOR THIS HE DID ONCE, WHEN HE OFFERED UP HIMSELF. Heb. 7:28 For the law makes men high priests WHICH HAVE INFIRMITY; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, makes THE SON Son (high priest), WHO IS CONSECRATED FOR EVERMORE.

HE IS OUR HIGH PRIEST, IMMORTAL. HE HASN'T GIVEN THAT POSITION TO ANY MORTAL MAN...AND GOD HAS NOT SWORN SUCH AN OATH TO ANY MORTAL MAN.

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#463654 Jul 19, 2013
Followers are certain this idiot is a theologian ... and because of the idiot-followers, he's a very wealthy man indeed.

His "helpers" don't seem very impressed.

Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#463655 Jul 19, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>that is a lie Anthony. Jesus never [appointed] peter as any type of pope.
HE [CALLED] HIM TO PREACH THE WORD. NOT TO BE MIXED UP WITH THE SCANDLEOUS LIFESTYLE THAT YOUR CHURCH IS INFAMOUS FOR.
DEAL WITH IT!
and to help you, I can refute anything that you say about your church since it stinks to high heavens
One month you call gif a fraud and a liar, you say he has no calling from God, the next day you're buddies with him.

You're a flake, you don't know which way is up or down. Go back to your corner drug store/bible church and tell it to the sheeple.

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#463656 Jul 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
God appoints His own successors by the Holy Spirit.
Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed.(Leviticus 20:9)

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die.(Leviticus 20:10).

If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death.(Leviticus 20:11)

If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death.(Leviticus 20:14)

If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed.(Leviticus 20:15-16).

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death.(Leviticus 20:27)

If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake.(Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community.(Leviticus 24:14-16)
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#463657 Jul 19, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
"Hell Froze Over" when the Eagles toured in 1994.
:o)
I was pretty disapointed in that Concert as they decided to play a different version of alot of songs. Don Felder the old Eagle was better.

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#463658 Jul 19, 2013
I must in deed BE a holy spirit, as I also can quote "god's" scriptures.

Tongue in cheek
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Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed.(Leviticus 20:9)

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die.(Leviticus 20:10).

If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death.(Leviticus 20:11)

If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death.(Leviticus 20:14)

If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed.(Leviticus 20:15-16).

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death.(Leviticus 20:27)

If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake.(Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community.(Leviticus 24:14-16)
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#463659 Jul 19, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Backsliding?
Wait a minute!!
You either believe he is infallible or not. It has nothing to do with the so-called "Church" - which are - in your own words, is made up by 'priests and bishops'- which is other men.
So now you are saying men can place infallibility upon whom they choose?
So where does that leave you with your belief?
- You believe because other men told you to believe this?
Backsliding? Not at all. He is infallible. By the Church's definition of infallible. He is preserved from teaching doctrinal error by virtue of Christ's authority. Period. Amen.

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#463660 Jul 19, 2013
I've had "Christians try to impress on me that those nasty scriptures came from the old testament.

Well ... that god of the old testament was supposedly the "original" god ... before the Christians and Muslims converted him from his faith of Judaism to Islam AND Christianity.

Wake up people ... or not ... the onus is on you.

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#463661 Jul 19, 2013
Now that we all know I've been called by the original Abrahamic god to preach his truth ... look out below. I'm on a ROLL ... so hang on to your wallets.

:)
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Myths and Myth-Makers – Old Tales And Superstitions By Comparative Mythology … John Fiske

According to the ancient Jew, the sky was a solid plate, hammered out by the gods, and spread over the earth in order to keep up the ocean overhead: but the plate was full of little windows, which were opened whenever it became necessary to let the rain come through.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#463662 Jul 19, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>==========
Here is the Metropolitan Phillip that is the SOURCE of the quote disparaging the Ortho Church. Basically he is a rogue Orthodox Metropolitan who is an ecumenalist that favors the Papal Monarchal form of Church government.
Research on Metro Phillip indicated many of his own people have reported that he refuses to listen to his former chancellors, he refuses to listen to his Brother Bishops on the Local Synod.
He refuses to be accountable to the Holy Synod. They describe him as a a tyrant and a bully.( He will probably be getting the boot although the Orthodox Church always will take the time to try to work it through)
One quote: "Instead of an American church which must be conciliar we see a structure that rivals the medieval papacy of the Roman church." Instead of an eye towards all of America we see a Bishop playing to a small ethnic club. Instead of a gentle Shepherd we see a promoter of self, a propagandist, a businessman, and sometimes a thug"
Antiochian magazine some in 1982 (or so) contained picture of Metropolitan Philip dressed in a cowboy suit, complete with bandana and six- with a six-shooter pointed at the reader, with the inscription "Pay your diocesan assessment, or else," or something similar."
The knowledgeable Orthodox I spoke to re Metropolitan Phillip describe his view as not alligned with Orthodoxy and that is a polite way of putting it.
I posted this to John, but I guess that was far enough back that he can post Metro Phillip's comments again and others may have missed my clarifying Metro Phillip's lack of any credibility.
Thats the Cath style here. Just be aware. And Anthony, who at first I thought was different, has the same stripes.
"Thats the Cath style here. Just be aware. And Anthony, who at first I thought was different, has the same stripes."

So I guess your statement that you don't get upset if anyone criticizes your Church is not necessarily correct.

I have been very nice to you. I've been very supportive of the truths in Orthodoxy, admire your liturgy and your people. I haven't called you any names, haven't insulted you in any way, all I've done is pointed out some of the discrepancies in your statements. In return you tell me I'm a waste of time, pointless to talk to and a typical Catholic bully.

Maybe it's your stripes that are coming out?

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#463663 Jul 19, 2013
You see the farther back we go ... the closer we get to the truth of the one and only god in the sky.

God wanted Jews to be polygamous. It was written, so it is sure to be the truth from the one and only god.

Sarcasm intended.
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Discovery Channel

Polygyny, the most common form of polygamy, describes when a man has multiple wives at the same time. In plural marriages of this kind, the men frequently father dozens of children, because they're able to impregnate their many wives at the same time.

The practice dates back to Biblical times. Ancient Jewish doctrines encouraged polygyny because Jews were a minority, and they could reproduce more rapidly. Today, some orthodox Jewish sects continue to support polygyny, and some believe the Talmud even encourages it.

http://curiosity.discovery.com/question/what -...

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#463664 Jul 19, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>The Greeks and Italians have so much in common,you could easily pass for one of my relatives HS.How are you doing? If that photo of you is recent,you look really good. I know you went through a horrible physical bout,but now are back on your feet.GREAT!
I have to go under the knife again,it will be my fourth surgery,in the same area.I must have weak abdominal muscles,have a hernia.My first was a twisted bowel,than a hernia,the third was scar tissue choking the bowel,now again a second hernia,this one is bulging out quite a bit,very noticeable.Believe me I am tired of being a patient,but than again it does teach patience.Have so much to overcome mentally,but that is really the greatest asset I have in Christ,is to go to Him in prayer,He does answer,and l e a d by His most powerful Hand,and like a Shepherd!
When I ever get to that point of feeling sorry for myself,I think of the thousands of children in cancer units,and the many who suffer with no limbs.So many of our young beautiful soldiers are coming back with no legs,arms and or one leg and so on.It is so sad,but we are made confident by the way so many rise above their own circunstances and live with the malady incurred with HOPE and a positive VISION.Good seeing you look happy with a smile!
PAD

SO SORRY to hear of your many problems.

May I make a suggestion..besides the obvious if giving it to Jesus.

AFTER YOUR SURGERY AND HEALING.

Ask your doctor about therapy called myofascial release.

I have awful scar tissue. From major abdominal surgery back in the eighties.

Have had obstruction bouts ..had surgery ..emergency after other things failed.
They do not like to go in to remove scar tissue as it causes MORE.

after my surgery for obstruction. Went to PT for it ..IT helps break up the scar tissue.

I can do it sometimes myself.

Several years later ..recently while getting PAIN treatment on my back .
The massage therapist did it for me again in the area if my schedule a 're and soeus muscle ..it really help

Here are a few site.

Some do it soft ..But the harder approach is better ...discuss with your doc.

THERe are PAIN centers now by doctors ..NOT PILL milks but ACTUAl

Therapy centers. And NOT all therapists are trained.
Massage therapy if done right works !!! It's a God send

And may actually prevent further surgery ...especially if you can break up scar tissue ..
Anyway evidently a lot about it on the net .

I go to a non surgical orthopedic center ..I'd ask around. If your doc says your ok for it :)

http://myofascialrelease.com/about/

Some videos

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...

Anyway GOD KEEP you safely in the Palm of His hand
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#463665 Jul 19, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I did not wish to tell you so, because I knew that you would find out what type of person that Anthony really was.
to err from what the Bible teaches , is not what Christianity is all about.
Every protestant according to you at one time or another on this board has been a fraud, a liar, a non-Christian, stupid, moron, ignorant, going straight to hell, etc.

No one should take anything you say seriously.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#463666 Jul 19, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
One month you call gif a fraud and a liar, you say he has no calling from God, the next day you're buddies with him.
You're a flake, you don't know which way is up or down. Go back to your corner drug store/bible church and tell it to the sheeple.

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Preston can read...and he is willing to adjust his direction when necessary.

What about you???

KayMarie
Clay

United States

#463667 Jul 19, 2013
I just listened to Dr. John Bergsma's presentation on the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Dr Bergsma is a professor in theology and author of numerous books. He is a former Protestant Evangelical pastor and now a recent Catholic convert.
He argues that that the Scrolls vindicate the Catholic Church and her understanding of what Scripture is. The Qumranite Jews around the time of Jesus had a 'gold mine' of writings that revealed their understandings of Scripture. Among the Books they considered was Tobit- which Luther later removed from the Christian canon.

Also, none of the Jews around the time of Christ had a collective canon. The official Jewish Bible came a century later after Christianity was spreading. The Books they chose were not the same as what the Christians recognized.
The reformation did not realize this. Luther never told them they were installing the post-Christian Jewish canon.
There are so many historical truths that completely destroy Protestantism. Many serious Christians like Dr. Bergsma are taking notice and walking away from the lies started by the sola scripturist and converting to the Catholic Church.

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#463668 Jul 19, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Backsliding? Not at all. He is infallible. By the Church's definition of infallible. He is preserved from teaching doctrinal error by virtue of Christ's authority. Period. Amen.
Your long sleep seems to be all important to you.
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From the book,“History of Christianity,” by Clyde L. Manschreck … comes the following ……..

With two popes reigning during the Great Schism, each anathematizing the other, many voices cried for reform, among them Conrad of Geinhausen, Heinrich of Langenstein, Peter of Ailli, John Gerson, and Nicholas of Clemanges. The agitation for a reforming council became so great that the cardinals of both Popes finally issued a call in Piza in 409. Neither the Pope of Avignon nor the one at Rome attended. Pisa declared both of them deposed, and elected Alexander V to be Pope. But the Popes at Avignon and Rome refused to be deposed, so that Christendom was faced with the spectacle of three Popes. The situation was intolerable.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#463669 Jul 19, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>glad that you love to lie.
if peter was writing from Babylon(Rome), then WHY don't you flee from Rome(Babylon) since Revelation teaches that Jesus is going to destroy that city that sets on seven hills (Rome nee Babylon).
Rev 17.
I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads....
And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication....
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains [or hills], on which the woman sitteth.
Looks like God is telling us that people like you who follow the catholic church blindly have no wisdom.
Doing the protestant jig again preston.

Because admitting that St. Peter was in Rome would mean the Catholic position may be right you'd rather get caught with your pants down and not be able to explain why Babylon in Revelation is different than Babylon in 1 Peter. So now you throw up a diversion and try to link pagan Rome with the Church at Rome which was founded by Sts. Peter and Paul. There may be people observing this thread who are stupid enough to fall for it, by I ain't one of 'em.

Now again, explain to me why Babylon in Revelation must be different than Babylon in 1 Peter?

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#463670 Jul 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Preston can read...and he is willing to adjust his direction when necessary.
What about you???
KayMarie
Hahahahahahaha

If a god is directing him "under your guidance" the god has been taking too many sips of the invisible wine.

Silly people believe a god called them to preach, yet they don't agree on anything.

What a riot!
Human Being

Roanoke, LA

#463671 Jul 19, 2013
marge wrote:
i'm thinking this type of communication is best left with the female disciples to share the Good News, for sure most all the males come across as harsh.
marge:

It is a challenging form of communication....

Most of the writings of the saints stand up because they are more of a "sharing" nature of one's understanding.

On the thread it is more a substitute for direct "face to face" encounters. It is easier to understand the intent, and bearing when one is face to face....

Although, I consider all on the thread and part of an "internet family", which RoseSezs stated....

Since: Sep 09

Fort Saint James, Canada

#463672 Jul 19, 2013
After being subjected to KayMarie's arrogance Benny Hinn is starting to appear as humble ... especially when he's drunk on alcohol rather than the spirit of a god.

:)

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