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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 627864 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#463031 Jul 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
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The word "hail" as defined in the dictionary means ---"to greet. welcome, acknowledge, to say hello!! The words "hail Mary" are a greeting, expressing recognition of her as the Mother of Jesus. It has "nothing to do" with worshiping her, as you in your "distorted, perverted and and twisted "anti-catholic" thinking just keep "making these things up"!!
POPE PRAYER TO MARY.

Pope John Paul bowing before a statue of Mary in worship.(See below right pic as well)

On May 7 Pope John Paul II dedicated his general audience to "the Virgin Mary" and urged all Christians to accept Mary as their mother. He noted the words spoken by Jesus on the cross to Mary and to John--"Woman, behold thy son!" and "Behold thy mother!" (John 19:26,27), and he claimed that in this statement "IT IS POSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND THE AUTHENTIC MEANING OF MARIAN WORSHIP in the ecclesial community ... which furthermore is based on the will of Christ" (Vatican Information Service, May 7, 1997).

John Paul II underlined that "the history of Christian piety teaches that MARY IS THE PATH THAT LEADS TO CHRIST, and that filial devotion to her does not at all diminish intimacy with Jesus, but rather, it increases it and leads it to very high levels of perfection." He concluded by asking all Christians "to make room (for Mary) in their daily lives, ACKNOWLEDGING HER PROVIDENTIAL ROLE IN THE PATH OF SALVATION"
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#463032 Jul 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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We prayed to Mary
We crowned fer with blossoms
Our school had a grotto for just that purpose .
It was very pretty.
We DON'T pray to her!! She is acknowledged to act as an "intercessor" in prayer and that it all!!

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#463033 Jul 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
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It called "intercessory prayer". We do not now, nor have ever "prayed to Mary" which you have been told over and over again. YOU ARE THE ONE, Confrinting that keeps distorting the truth of what the Catholic Church believes and teaches by just "making things up"! You false attacks are better know as just plain ---"lying"
Catholics pray to Mary...contrary to what Christ said..

POPE PRAYER TO MARY.

Pope John Paul bowing before a statue of Mary in worship.(See below right pic as well)

On May 7 Pope John Paul II dedicated his general audience to "the Virgin Mary" and urged all Christians to accept Mary as their mother. He noted the words spoken by Jesus on the cross to Mary and to John--"Woman, behold thy son!" and "Behold thy mother!" (John 19:26,27), and he claimed that in this statement "IT IS POSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND THE AUTHENTIC MEANING OF MARIAN WORSHIP in the ecclesial community ... which furthermore is based on the will of Christ" (Vatican Information Service, May 7, 1997).

John Paul II underlined that "the history of Christian piety teaches that MARY IS THE PATH THAT LEADS TO CHRIST, and that filial devotion to her does not at all diminish intimacy with Jesus, but rather, it increases it and leads it to very high levels of perfection." He concluded by asking all Christians "to make room (for Mary) in their daily lives, ACKNOWLEDGING HER PROVIDENTIAL ROLE IN THE PATH OF SALVATION"

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#463034 Jul 17, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I don't disapprove of the purgatorial process or indulgences. It's a pretty simple question Chuck. Enough for what?
redemption:(the act) ransom in full, i.e.(figuratively) riddance, or (specially) Christian salvation:--deliverance, redemption.

Note: "ransom in full"....catlicks they be say dat be wrong!!!!

Otherwise they could not make money selling indulgences, selling masses and candles for the dead to get out of purgatory....which the pope now says does not exist!!!!!

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#463035 Jul 17, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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So everybody is saved no matter what?
There is a new book on the market...you need to get one...it addresses your question...

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

This is something each individual decides before he dies...after he draws his last breath....his destination, based on his decision, is sealed for eternity...
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#463036 Jul 17, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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I repeat:
Not all Catholics swallow that swill!!!!!
Eucharist and Belief in the Real Presence
Nine in ten weekly Mass attendees (91 percent) say they believe that Jesus Christ is really present in the Eucharist, compared to two-thirds of those who attend Mass less than weekly but at least once a month (65 percent), and four in ten of those attending Mass a few times a year or less (40 percent).
Plus: That teaching of drinking the actual blood of Christ contradicts: That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Which shows a fallible Bible...which it is not....
Protestant "polls" mean nothing!! This is just more of your "distorted anti-ctholic propaganda, that you bible only "buffoons" have been indoctrinated in!...... Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church has proclaimed and taught the TRUTH for over 2000 years, regarding the TRUE BODY AND TRUE BLOOD of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist, as recorded in John 6:47-59. If "a few Catholic question it---"so-be-it"! It STILL REMAINS,(as it always has) the TRUE BIBLICAL TEACHINGS of the Catholic Church You "fundies" just keep "making things up" in order to (fit into) your bible only pyramid of mis-interpreted bible verses that have been built on "sand" since sola scriptura began in the 1800's.

I repeat:
Believing or not believing in the "Real Presence of Jesus HIMSELF in the Eucharist, is NOT an "opinion poll." I/we as Catholics will leave "personal editorialized opinions" of bible interpretation to the bible only Protestants and there 42,000+ contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent denominations ( correction --42,346, the new number today)

You bible only "fundies" as just like Peter before his TRUE conversion to Jesus Christ!! YOU FISH---and catch NOTHING!!!!.
chuck

Ashburn, VA

#463037 Jul 17, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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1 Cor. 3:10-15 - works are judged after death and tested by fire. Some works are lost, but the person is still saved. Paul is referring to the state of purgation called purgatory. The venial sins (bad works) that were committed are burned up after death, but the person is still brought to salvation. This state after death cannot be heaven (no one with venial sins is present) or hell (there is no forgiveness and salvation).
1 Cor. 3:15 –“if any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” The phrase for "suffer loss" in the Greek is "zemiothesetai." The root word is "zemioo" which also refers to punishment. The construction “zemiothesetai” is used in Ex. 21:22 and Prov. 19:19 which refers to punishment (from the Hebrew “anash” meaning “punish” or “penalty”). Hence, this verse proves that there is an expiation of temporal punishment after our death, but the person is still saved. This cannot mean heaven (there is no punishment in heaven) and this cannot mean hell (the possibility of expiation no longer exists and the person is not saved).
1 Cor. 3:15 – further, Paul writes “he himself will be saved, "but only" (or “yet so”) as through fire.”“He will be saved” in the Greek is “sothesetai”(which means eternal salvation). The phrase "but only" (or “yet so”) in the Greek is "houtos" which means "in the same manner." This means that man is both eternally rewarded and eternally saved in the same manner by fire.
1 Cor. 3:13 - when Paul writes about God revealing the quality of each man's work by fire and purifying him, this purification relates to his sins (not just his good works). Protestants, in attempting to disprove the reality of purgatory, argue that Paul was only writing about rewarding good works, and not punishing sins (because punishing and purifying a man from sins would be admitting that there is a purgatory).
1 Cor. 3:17 - but this verse proves that the purgation after death deals with punishing sin. That is, destroying God's temple is a bad work, which is a mortal sin, which leads to death. 1 Cor. 3:14,15,17 - purgatory thus reveals the state of righteousness (v.14), state of venial sin (v.15) and the state of mortal sin (v.17), all of which are judged after death.
Let me guess....from a catholic website right?
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#463038 Jul 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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It's a gift ..it's free.
We must BELIEVE in Christ and His Sacrifice ..be washed clean by Him .
Have the Spirit.
Repent ..follow Him
The Spirit calls we answer or not ...our choice to ACCEPT the Gift
You cannot get yo heaven by going to it joining a Church
So His sacrifice wasn't enough, we actually have to do something like believe and accept and repent?
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#463039 Jul 17, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>We give you the answers you seek but you refuse to except them so that shows your intent.Your goal is to try to upset us with your post about the Orthodox church which we are not upset.its your patback for my posts on the catholic church.Your sincerity is transparent!!
Your answers contradict Metropolitan Phillip, that's why I ask. I've told you before I'm very fond of the Orthodox Church, I have a lot of history there. What faith community were you a part of before you met Nick a few years ago?
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#463040 Jul 17, 2013
chuck wrote:
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Let me guess....from a catholic website right?
Um, I'm reasonably confident 1 Cor. 3 is your bible too, no?

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#463041 Jul 17, 2013
Aunt he be saying: I receive the Precious Blood twice a week.

Drinking and Praying: Proposal Could Tip Irish Priests Over Legal Limit

Both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland want to lower the legal blood alcohol level for drivers. Priests are afraid it might affect their ability to motor around after Mass.

Bad Blood: Priests in Ireland are concerned that lowering the legal drinking level for drivers might leave them stranded after Mass.

The job description for a Catholic priest doesn't include a lot of perks -- perhaps one reason that their numbers are shrinking rapidly across the Western world. In Ireland, though, the gig might be further complicated by a new proposal to lower the legal blood alcohol limit for drivers. Priests there are speaking out against the proposal because it could render them legally drunk after performing Mass.

Aunt....why is it that you are drinking the "precious blood" of Christ....and the priests in Ireland are not drinking the "precious blood of Christ", but wine that could get them arrested for DUI???!!!!!
Human Being

Eunice, LA

#463042 Jul 17, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Correction. I walked away WITHOUT FEAR.
Many fear to walk away, because they fail to understand what Jesus taught. I blame that on Christianity, for severing Jesus into two people - one that they wish to promote, and the other that shows how Jesus was a complete man with a complete teaching philosophy.
Christianity has failed its followers and its followers have failed at being honest about it.
New Age Spiritual Leader:

I was not specifically saying that you were fearful of a decision to walk away from prior Christian beliefs.

I was generalizing. But I think, that "leaders and followers", may have feared for their own and other's salvation, the release of non-orthodox Nag-Hammadi(gnostic) writings, as opposed to accepted Christian writings(canonized). It is of course based more on a sense of insecurity.

If someone is not wise enough, they may be living in a purgative view and think that others live that way also. Generally speaking wisdom takes time and experience to accrue and apply.

Christianity is not immune to learning through time what works and what does not. Most of us operate on an assumption that we have knowledge enough to know truth from falsehood. IMHO it is the collision of this assumption with reality, that we often discover we lack sufficient information to make wise decisions.(It is a source of dismay and disillusionment.)
Human Being

Eunice, LA

#463043 Jul 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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AWWW knock it off Robert. You love your religion because you believe heaven is designed for you and hell is designed for others.
If you didn't ... you would still BE an Atheist. And that is the truth.
June:

It seems no matter how many times I deny your statement, you assume I am either lying(to myself, and/or others) or wrong....It is an interesting dilemma.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#463044 Jul 17, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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So His sacrifice wasn't enough, we actually have to do something like believe and accept and repent?
It's not a work..And you know it.

If you're thirsty ..I GIVE you a drink

You can remain thirsty or DRINK the water

You do have free will

We can accept or reject Jesus .

It's a choice. Not WORKS that will earn us salvation

We cannot earn it..NO MATTER HOW MUCH PENANCE ..HOW MANY TIMES WE GO TO CHURCH

HOW manuscripts we crawl up on our knees ...as,Luther was shown by God .

None of those steps he crawled up on his knees could ever wash him clean

Nothing but the blood of Jesus is sufficient .

IT IS FINISHED

AFTER HE DRANK THE CUP OF OUR SINS ..
DIED A TERRIBLE DEATH shedding His blood for US

WHAT more is left..IT IS FINISHED.

Not by us ..it's free ..we do have to accept the gift of go thirsty.
Human Being

Eunice, LA

#463045 Jul 17, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Human Being I wasnt talking about you. I dont even know what you are talking about LOL
Be well
Herme:

I'm sorry. It seemed your discussion with Dust was getting nowhere. I thought I might break in....

Most often people philosophically argue from the general to the specific. If it gets back to generalizing, something gets lost, usually one's temper(smiles)....

And you too, be well....
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#463046 Jul 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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It's not a work..And you know it.
If you're thirsty ..I GIVE you a drink
You can remain thirsty or DRINK the water
You do have free will
We can accept or reject Jesus .
It's a choice. Not WORKS that will earn us salvation
We cannot earn it..NO MATTER HOW MUCH PENANCE ..HOW MANY TIMES WE GO TO CHURCH
HOW manuscripts we crawl up on our knees ...as,Luther was shown by God .
None of those steps he crawled up on his knees could ever wash him clean
Nothing but the blood of Jesus is sufficient .
IT IS FINISHED
AFTER HE DRANK THE CUP OF OUR SINS ..
DIED A TERRIBLE DEATH shedding His blood for US
WHAT more is left..IT IS FINISHED.
Not by us ..it's free ..we do have to accept the gift of go thirsty.
You're all over the board here rose. Chuck says Catholics believe Christ's sacrifice isn't enough, but can't explain what enough means and won't discuss it with me anymore. If Christ's sacrifice is enough per chuck, why do we need to do anything at all?
Human Being

Eunice, LA

#463047 Jul 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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But in your arrogant state of superiority ... you HAVE judged.
If that were not so, you would not BE "attached" to any other religion.
You people believe that a god exists and you can jump the gun and judge for yourselves that YOU are worthy of heaven.
And don't try the B.S. of humility that you might just be the one to go to hell.
You are too damned arrogant to even think THAT.
June:

I think what is most obvious to others, and myself is that you project your opinions as if they are absolute truth.

It gets tedious for some to repeat themselves. But you seem to thrive on repeating your opinions. Its interesting, but circular in reasoning....I suspect it has something to do telling a lie so many times, someone will believe.

I don't believe you. But you make me wonder if you are capable of distinguishing between truth and your opinion....

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#463048 Jul 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
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You seem to be doing a "pretty good job" of boasting, and bragging about the Orthodox Church and its history, yourself--as you believe it!........ I'm secure enough in my faith about Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church to "defend it" against many non-catholics on this forum who have an anti-catholic agenda, to preach heresy and spread false and distorted teachings in an attempt to undermine, TRUE CHURCH HISTORY and the TRUE Interpretation of the Bible..........unsuccessfully, I might add)!!
I have never boasted about the orthodox church.I made corrections about 1054 and also hojo ONE TRUE CHURCH repeats. Never once have I boasted as hojo does about the ORTHODOX CHURCH BEING THE TRUE FAITH THE ONLY WAY TO SALVATION ETC ETC.as hojo does over and over again.Your church is a water down version of the orthodox faith.And may I add this" Lair Lair Pants On Fire"!

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#463049 Jul 17, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Your answers contradict Metropolitan Phillip, that's why I ask. I've told you before I'm very fond of the Orthodox Church, I have a lot of history there. What faith community were you a part of before you met Nick a few years ago?
Anthony She was a pagan sacrifice for the Chihuahua Tribe in the jungles of Mexico when I rescued her.
I was on a mission to capture what we called "The Kong" I convinced the Tribe that she wasn't a virgin and they let her go.

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#463050 Jul 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Protestant "polls" mean nothing!! This is just more of your "distorted anti-ctholic propaganda, that you bible only "buffoons" have been indoctrinated in!...... Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church has proclaimed and taught the TRUTH for over 2000 years, regarding the TRUE BODY AND TRUE BLOOD of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist, as recorded in John 6:47-59. If "a few Catholic question it---"so-be-it"! It STILL REMAINS,(as it always has) the TRUE BIBLICAL TEACHINGS of the Catholic Church You "fundies" just keep "making things up" in order to (fit into) your bible only pyramid of mis-interpreted bible verses that have been built on "sand" since sola scriptura began in the 1800's.
I repeat:
Believing or not believing in the "Real Presence of Jesus HIMSELF in the Eucharist, is NOT an "opinion poll." I/we as Catholics will leave "personal editorialized opinions" of bible interpretation to the bible only Protestants and there 42,000+ contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent denominations ( correction --42,346, the new number today)
You bible only "fundies" as just like Peter before his TRUE conversion to Jesus Christ!! YOU FISH---and catch NOTHING!!!!.
And you fish and catch carp!

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