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Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#462609 Jul 16, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Sera said
"Get your facts straight Clay... you won't find sexual abuse plastered on the news on tv from the Orthodox church plus a cover up to boot as yes see from your church"
Ok, my interpretation of your above statement says that you believe its a Catholic thing; its a Catholic issue; the problem is within the Catholic Church and not the Orthodox Church because we are on tv more.
Since there are no facts to support the problem being a Catholic issue more so than an Orthodox issue, I felt you were purposely letting a little slander in to go along with your other rants about the CC.
You didn't quote her, but the bigger point was the reason she was doing it. Not to smear the church. Nope. She posted more than that and then lied and said she wasnt trying to smear the church. Its so obvious.

That is the point Catholics have made and gave credit to Protestants and other organizations who have recognized their own sins. However what Ox did and what Herme and Sere both fueled was an attack on the Catholic church. Saying, implying or pointing to the church and and whoever says it has more or because its in the news doesn't make it true. Pointing out the facts in relation to claims made against the church with an opinion is not minimalizing, defending or margininalizing anything.

Herme says to Hojo after he says he knows the church is true. "Hojo, wouldnt it be a wonderful magical world if it really worked that way... "It is true cause I know it." Here he mocks Hojo, yet he can state the Catholic Church has the biggest problem with nothing to back it up.

Sere can mock secular reports that show that its not and Herme says nothing, but he defends the attack on the church while stating Catholics defend abuse by pointing out others and he doesnt miminimimze the failings of the Orthodox on abuse like Catholics. Hyprocrisy at its finest. In attacking the church and joining with those who were willfully maligning the church and ignoring their own sins and feeding hostility and hatred and misinformation so abundant in here and act self righteous about it and lie and say you are not doing it to smear the church is abhorrent to the truth and truly shows no remorse or even caring about the abused. Its simply a lynch mob, but then its just the mean catholics in here. Nobody calls us infidels, abortion to the truth, pagans, liars, not christian in caps, not saved, or posts endless nonsense, the anti-christs, stupid idol worhsippers blah blah blah. Yet the Orthodox who hold many of the same beleifs are immune from attacks, by the selective hypocrite method.

The only reason it was stated is the smear the church, but of course sere never does that. lol Its obvious she never lies. I guess thats what you mean by them being a good Christian? It is some Protestants in here condemning Catholics to hell. The church doesnt teach they are going to hell so its not said. Do Catholics believe the Church is the body of the Christ. Yes, just as Protestants believe their church invisible or visible is. I just want to know who the false teachers are as everyone divides the word differently and nobody is an authority in sola scriputre world except what you as an individual choose to believe. See James 3:1

That is not name calling or cruel in any way it is a reality. Ox has the SBC truth he says. Protestants have argued with each quite a bit in here and no its not been friendly. There are multiple truths in Protetantism. If all a Protestant wants to do is dig up dirt on handful of evil popes who never proclaimed any doctrines nor are denied, or wish to say the Church is pagan and founded by Constantine, All priests are homosexuals. Catholics are pedophiles because they dont believe and worship idols. The pope is the antichrist, Jesuit oaths, massive distortions of history. Saying the church cannot possibly be the true church bry bringing up a scandal is disingenious at best as if sin is immune elsewhere.
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#462610 Jul 16, 2013
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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#462611 Jul 16, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Then the Seventh Day (second Sabbath of God)(the millennial reign of Jesus for 1,000 years) will conclude the SECOND WEEK of God's time.
KayMarie
...or in "God's days" - one day.....

I think that would be all that Jesus could be able to comprehend if he did come back.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#462612 Jul 16, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> http://oca.org/questions/sacramentconfession/... hope this is helpful.
First off Sera - I asked you to answer, not some website.

http://oca.org/questions/sacramentconfession/...

The arrogance of Christianity.....

QUESTION:

Canít I go to God, who already knows what Iíve done, and confess?

ANSWER:

Yes, one can confess directly to Godóbut refusing to confess in the presence of a priest implies that one can also be oneís own spiritual physician.

Just another fallacy created by men to control men, or to deceive them into thinking they "need the Church".

I think you forgot the part of the equation that states....
"My life is between me and God."
"one must have a personal relationship with 'God'".

Your version negates both of these statements.

*sighs*

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462613 Jul 16, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
From the article: NOVA Women's Healthcare opened up its facility at a Fairfax office building in 2006. The Virginia Department of Health recorded that last year NOVA's Women's performed 3,066 abortions.
**You do however love to see this kind of news.
How many of those 3,066 abortions do you think were just tissue and cells as you called an unborn child?
Actually I wish there were NO abortions as it would be better for all involved.

But as there will be women having abortions, I trust the women to make their own decisions, and I will strive to keep the clinics open for those who decide that abortion is what makes the most sense to them in their specific situations.

You can pretend that you are working for a god if it so pleases you and you can believe that a god is offended by abortion. I don't happen to agree with your opinion.

From my point of view it is all important to do everything in my power to keep the women alive, and keeping the clinics open is the best solution concerning the issue.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#462614 Jul 16, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't quote her, but the bigger point was the reason she was doing it. Not to smear the church. Nope. She posted more than that and then lied and said she wasnt trying to smear the church. Its so obvious.
That is the point Catholics have made and gave credit to Protestants and other organizations who have recognized their own sins. However what Ox did and what Herme and Sere both fueled was an attack on the Catholic church. Saying, implying or pointing to the church and and whoever says it has more or because its in the news doesn't make it true. Pointing out the facts in relation to claims made against the church with an opinion is not minimalizing, defending or margininalizing anything.
Herme says to Hojo after he says he knows the church is true. "Hojo, wouldnt it be a wonderful magical world if it really worked that way... "It is true cause I know it." Here he mocks Hojo, yet he can state the Catholic Church has the biggest problem with nothing to back it up.
Sere can mock secular reports that show that its not and Herme says nothing, but he defends the attack on the church while stating Catholics defend abuse by pointing out others and he doesnt miminimimze the failings of the Orthodox on abuse like Catholics. Hyprocrisy at its finest. In attacking the church and joining with those who were willfully maligning the church and ignoring their own sins and feeding hostility and hatred and misinformation so abundant in here and act self righteous about it and lie and say you are not doing it to smear the church is abhorrent to the truth and truly shows no remorse or even caring about the abused. Its simply a lynch mob, but then its just the mean catholics in here. Nobody calls us infidels, abortion to the truth, pagans, liars, not christian in caps, not saved, or posts endless nonsense, the anti-christs, stupid idol worhsippers blah blah blah. Yet the Orthodox who hold many of the same beleifs are immune from attacks, by the selective hypocrite method.
The only reason it was stated is the smear the church, but of course sere never does that. lol Its obvious she never lies. I guess thats what you mean by them being a good Christian? It is some Protestants in here condemning Catholics to hell. The church doesnt teach they are going to hell so its not said. Do Catholics believe the Church is the body of the Christ. Yes, just as Protestants believe their church invisible or visible is. I just want to know who the false teachers are as everyone divides the word differently and nobody is an authority in sola scriputre world except what you as an individual choose to believe. See James 3:1
That is not name calling or cruel in any way it is a reality. Ox has the SBC truth he says. Protestants have argued with each quite a bit in here and no its not been friendly. There are multiple truths in Protetantism. If all a Protestant wants to do is dig up dirt on handful of evil popes who never proclaimed any doctrines nor are denied, or wish to say the Church is pagan and founded by Constantine, All priests are homosexuals. Catholics are pedophiles because they dont believe and worship idols. The pope is the antichrist, Jesuit oaths, massive distortions of history. Saying the church cannot possibly be the true church bry bringing up a scandal is disingenious at best as if sin is immune elsewhere.
It simple Dusty....the catholic church is an abortion from the truth...the bride of frankenstien...and if you want I can post you a link of more than a handful of evil popes.Hows that for me being honest and yes In this post I am smearing the catholic church which is aready smeared from its own doings.Thank you very much and have a nice day! And yes, I already know by posting this post that I have sinned and that it is not Christian of me.But when you have an enemy as yourself,you must fight fire with fire.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462615 Jul 16, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="June VanDerMark"
Jesus sent His followers to Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, etc. to "make converts". Countless faithful Christians have died carrying the gospel to these people. Many who did not die, have sacrificed their lives to help those people.
And I know countless people who give of their finances to support those who carry the Gospel to ones who have not heard.
Currently Muslims are begging for Bibles.
KayMarie
I just read this one.

If you think that people of all other religions deserve to go to hell, you are an idiot.

And if you think that Muslims are begging for Christian bibles you are a double idiot! If you were in Iran and made that statement, your head would be served to the Muslim-"devil" on a platter.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#462616 Jul 16, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't quote her, but the bigger point was the reason she was doing it. Not to smear the church. Nope. She posted more than that and then lied and said she wasnt trying to smear the church. Its so obvious.
EDITED FOR SPACE

Herme says to Hojo after he says he knows the church is true. "Hojo, wouldnt it be a wonderful magical world if it really worked that way... "It is true cause I know it." Here he mocks Hojo, yet he can state the Catholic Church has the biggest problem with nothing to back it up.
Sere can mock secular reports that show that its not and Herme says nothing, but he defends the attack on the church while stating Catholics defend abuse by pointing out others and he doesnt miminimimze the failings of the Orthodox on abuse like Catholics. Hyprocrisy at its finest. In attacking the church and joining with those who were willfully maligning the church and ignoring their own sins and feeding hostility and hatred and misinformation so abundant in here and act self righteous about it and lie and say you are not doing it to smear the church is abhorrent to the truth and truly shows no remorse or even caring about the abused. Its simply a lynch mob, but then its just the mean catholics in here. Nobody calls us infidels, abortion to the truth, pagans, liars, not christian in caps, not saved, or posts endless nonsense, the anti-christs, stupid idol worhsippers blah blah blah. Yet the Orthodox who hold many of the same beleifs are immune from attacks, by the selective hypocrite method.
The only reason it was stated is the smear the church, but of course sere never does that. lol Its obvious she never lies. I guess thats what you mean by them being a good Christian? It is some Protestants in here condemning Catholics to hell. The church doesnt teach they are going to hell so its not said. Do Catholics believe the Church is the body of the Christ. Yes, just as Protestants believe their church invisible or visible is. I just want to know who the false teachers are as everyone divides the word differently and nobody is an authority in sola scriputre world except what you as an individual choose to believe. See James 3:1
That is not name calling or cruel in any way it is a reality. Ox has the SBC truth he says. Protestants have argued with each quite a bit in here and no its not been friendly. There are multiple truths in Protetantism. If all a Protestant wants to do is dig up dirt on handful of evil popes who never proclaimed any doctrines nor are denied, or wish to say the Church is pagan and founded by Constantine, All priests are homosexuals. Catholics are pedophiles because they dont believe and worship idols. The pope is the antichrist, Jesuit oaths, massive distortions of history. Saying the church cannot possibly be the true church bry bringing up a scandal is disingenious at best as if sin is immune elsewhere.
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Herme says to Hojo after he says he knows the church is true. "Hojo, wouldnt it be a wonderful magical world if it really worked that way... "It is true cause I know it." Here he mocks Hojo, yet he can state the Catholic Church has the biggest problem with nothing to back it up
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Another misquote and remaking of Topix history.I never said "I know".In fact I explained my basis and foundation for my "belief".I explained the difficulty doing such studies in institutions and explained it would be even more difficult in churches. Now if you would please quit remaking history and misquoting I could spend my time studying instead of correcting your intentional remaking of history.

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#462617 Jul 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
"the Bible....as a best seller"
- this should actually be....
"The Bible - the only book GIVEN TO THE MOST PEOPLE."
One should not have to pay for the Bible.
If you do, then you have partaken in a "profit of of God and Jesus" campaign, placing money as the superior aspect of the transaction.
Religion should not cost anyone anything, but unfortunately, religion spawns greed:
- Religious goods selling
- Manufacturing and the selling of crosses
- Selling bibles
- Selling Eucharist supplies/wafers to churches
- Selling flowers to churches
etc..etc...etc...
The next time you think money isn't heavily involved with religion, just think of the payouts the Catholic Church has made to the victims of child abuse that they cover-up with those settlements.
As I started the post with repeating what seems to be something you like to say openly - "the Bible....as a best seller"
- is completely based in greed.
My suggestion to you - boycott the selling and buying of religious items.
Should I decide to want a new Bible to keep or give for a gift.

Sorry nit going to steal it or print it myself ..

Sane with a Cross as a gift..

Unfortunately the sold my local Christian store I loved to browse in.

So I must use Amazon...they are real funny like that about wanting to be paid
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#462618 Jul 16, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I DON'T EXPECT AND INFIDEL SUCH AS YOUR SELF ...THAT CONTENDS AGAINST GOD'S WORD
YOU ARE DEAD TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE ..

Is that an insult? lol Are you talking to your buddy Herme? Another example of not calling names and being nice? So is just the Protestants, non protestant, catholic or Orthodox with your truth that have any possibility of salvation?
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#462619 Jul 16, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>It simple Dusty....the catholic church is an abortion from the truth...the bride of frankenstien...and if you want I can post you a link of more than a handful of evil popes.Hows that for me being honest and yes In this post I am smearing the catholic church which is aready smeared from its own doings.Thank you very much and have a nice day! And yes, I already know by posting this post that I have sinned and that it is not Christian of me.But when you have an enemy as yourself,you must fight fire with fire.
You sinned alot before this. Bless those who curse you. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those trespass against us. I forgive you. I will pray for you and I pray for Nick too as I do not need to pray in public to be seen. I pray that God leads the leaders of the church to unite in truth. The hate is coming from your end not ours, but at least you acknowledge your sin while at the same time vowing to do it more. Good stuff!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462620 Jul 16, 2013
I just found out that a most kind and gentle man committed suicide.

He was a wonderful husband and a wonderful father to his children, with no financial difficulties, no health problems, didn't suffer from depression, loved the outdoors, skiing, et cetera ... had no enemies whatsoever ... yet he left others behind to always wonder why.

From my perception he cared too much about helping others and in so doing, way over-extended his self.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#462621 Jul 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
First off Sera - I asked you to answer, not some website.
http://oca.org/questions/sacramentconfession/...
The arrogance of Christianity.....
QUESTION:
Canít I go to God, who already knows what Iíve done, and confess?
ANSWER:
Yes, one can confess directly to Godóbut refusing to confess in the presence of a priest implies that one can also be oneís own spiritual physician.
Just another fallacy created by men to control men, or to deceive them into thinking they "need the Church".
I think you forgot the part of the equation that states....
"My life is between me and God."
"one must have a personal relationship with 'God'".
Your version negates both of these statements.
*sighs*
sorry to have disappoint you.Would an invite to dinner make up for it.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462622 Jul 16, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I DON'T EXPECT AND INFIDEL SUCH AS YOUR SELF ...THAT CONTENDS AGAINST GOD'S WORD
YOU ARE DEAD TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE ..
It all depend who tells the story ... doesn't it?

When YOU tell it the bible and its words always fall under YOUR spell.

When KayMarie tells the story ... the bible falls under his spell.

In your own eyes you people are really "something."
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#462623 Jul 16, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I wish there were NO abortions as it would be better for all involved.
But as there will be women having abortions, I trust the women to make their own decisions, and I will strive to keep the clinics open for those who decide that abortion is what makes the most sense to them in their specific situations.
You can pretend that you are working for a god if it so pleases you and you can believe that a god is offended by abortion. I don't happen to agree with your opinion.
From my point of view it is all important to do everything in my power to keep the women alive, and keeping the clinics open is the best solution concerning the issue.
Grams said: Actually I wish there were NO abortions as it would be better for all involved.

**LOL..That's why you support killing of unborn children...because you wish there were no more.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#462624 Jul 16, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I DON'T EXPECT AND INFIDEL SUCH AS YOUR SELF ...THAT CONTENDS AGAINST GOD'S WORD
YOU ARE DEAD TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE ..
Is that an insult? lol Are you talking to your buddy Herme? Another example of not calling names and being nice? So is just the Protestants, non protestant, catholic or Orthodox with your truth that have any possibility of salvation?
Jealous of hermi's friendship with confronting? Look in the mirror before judging others with your PERSONAL attacks..in fact I do believe that's what this isreally all about.You catholics are jealous of the friendship that hermi and I have with the protestants here. Its not really the attacks to your church.Thats the excuse you make but the really truth is JEALOUSY..they don't attack us because we respect them.We know what they believe about certain things in our church like icons etc.We do not take it personally nor have the need to defend our belief.Thats what an open dialog is all about.its not about bullying name calling and p---ing in the wind about my church is better than your church.There are faults in all of MANS doings.
Clay

United States

#462625 Jul 16, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Clay you said Sera said "it is a Catholic thing". She corrected this. She replied that she said she believed there was more abuse in the ath Church cause thats what you see on the news.( posted the number) You basically called her a liar and claimed she said it was a "Catholic thing" I posted the link. What does it take for you to admit it and not twist.Now it was your "interpretation".
.
I don't care to Prestonize these discussions. I mean, we are all adults here. The issue at hand isn't whether or not it was a direct quote. The issue is what Sera was trying to imply. So in that respect, I totally stand by my original accusation that she believes its a 'Catholic thing'. Now you've clarified on her behalf, that she is saying child sexual abuse is more of a problem in the Catholic Church then the Orthodox Church, because its plastered on the news more.
Well, that's STILL a reckless position from you. Its STILL an irresponsible statement. I see it as combining slander with your defense of the Orthodox Church.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#462626 Jul 16, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
For a man called of God you certainly have a difficult time answering questions regarding things of God!!!
Do you agree with the teaching of the Catholics and the SBC:
Christ is the eternal Son of God. In His incarnation as Jesus Christ He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. Jesus perfectly revealed and did the will of God, taking upon Himself human nature with its demands and necessities and identifying Himself completely with mankind yet without sin...
And: The Catholics:
Jesus Christ, the incarnate Son of God...redeemer of the human Race..
I am neither catholic nor do I belong to the SBC. my beliefs are that of a definite SECOND WORK of GRACE, and which is that of the Holiness Movement, which follows a very close Walk with the Lord.

you have been told time and time again, that Jesus is God.

so that makes you a heretic of the First degree, in which the Bible tells us what to do with people like you. therefore I am not going to respond further to you about this silly game that you wish to display on this forum.

feel free to call me a coward all that you wish, the honest people on it know that I am not afraid to voice my opinion backed up by the Lord's Word.

now go back and play with your crayons again and don't eat any. if the electric goes out in your nursing home, those crayons will provide light the same as a candle would.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#462627 Jul 16, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
You sinned alot before this. Bless those who curse you. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those trespass against us. I forgive you. I will pray for you and I pray for Nick too as I do not need to pray in public to be seen. I pray that God leads the leaders of the church to unite in truth. The hate is coming from your end not ours, but at least you acknowledge your sin while at the same time vowing to do it more. Good stuff!
thanku dusty ...and I will pray for you and all those that curse me....the hate comes from both ends dusty admit it please.When you humble yourself I will humble myself and beg for forgiveness for attacking your church.But PERSOANL attacks from BOTH sides must end!WE ARE ALL SINNERS..YOU ME EVERYONE.....I SIN YES I SIN...I AM A SINNER BUT NOT A LAIR!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#462628 Jul 16, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
How do babies of those in other religions and Atheists have a relationship with your imaginary Satan???
HOW??? Yet you believe they deserve hell while YOU deserve heaven.
You ignorant self-centered fool!!!
~~~

GOD DON'T SEND ANY ONE TO HELL...THEY MAKE THE OWN CHOICE TO GO THERE themselves...JUST AS YOU HAVE..and defend you choice against freedom...

You are the one that has chosen to receive eternal punishment as apposed to believing upon the Lord Jesus Christ, and entering in to His rest..

You alone have decided the fate of your soul...

You have been expose to The Love of God and evidently have chosen to rail upon Him...for some insane reason..

You will have hell pay and no on but you will be responsible for what you have opted to do.

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