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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658391 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#462441 Jul 15, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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Yawn...You cant remember all your lies.
This is a chapter from The Non-Orthodox: The Orthodox Teaching on
Christians Outside of the Church. This
book was originally published in 1999 by Regina Orthodox Press in
Salisbury, MA (Frank Schaeffer’s
publishing house).
In The Orthodox Church, Bishop Kallistos makes some wholly Orthodox
statements
concerning the nature of the Church and salvation. Among them are the
following:
Orthodoxy also teaches that outside the Church there is no salvation.
This belief has the same basis
as the Orthodox belief in the unbreakable unity of the Church: if follows
from the close
relation between God and His Church.“A person cannot have God as His
Father if he does
not have the Church as his Mother.” So wrote Saint Cyprian; and to him
this seemed an
evident truth, because he could not think of God and the Church apart
from one another.
God is salvation, and God’s saving power is mediated to humans in His
Body, the Church.”
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus. All the categorical strength and point of
this aphorism lies in its
tautology. Outside the Church there is no salvation because salvation is
the Church.
Sorry but your scholarly work can fly on Topix but would not pass peer review.First of all you have 1 Bishop speaking or the entire Church.Very sloppy both in research and in debate skills.Do some research. There are 3 primary approaches to the question of salvation outside the Church. Bishop Ware has one.
How can the Church have 3 opinions. Chaos!!! Anarchy!!Then study the apophatic approach o the Orthodox Church v analytic delineation.Then study the conciliar v the monarchal foundation of the Orthodox Church.Then do some reading-more than just Bishop Ware.Or just take the easy way and continue verbal abuse and attacks.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#462442 Jul 15, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Tony17" Discuss? I'm not here to discuss the word of God with you because you're not qualified to discuss the word of God with me. I'm here to teach you the word of God,not discuss it with you.
So I'll keep teaching and you keep listening. Kay? Maybe in a few years of me teaching you then you will be able to discuss it with me but at this time as I stated, you're not qualified to discuss the word of God with me.
*********
:):)
KM
I guess I told him huh,LOL? Of course you know I was merely joking with him right?
truth

Embleton, Australia

#462443 Jul 15, 2013
all of them goig astray..
who are ou to pu croti over other servent..

its not one

all going astra..
is that wha you try explain..

another thngs scrpture descrbe all good righteousness peple wil be abuse asssult accusse prosecuted prison and many killed..
it is witten about evil which all prophets describe 2000 years ago 4000 years ago..
is that new
nooooooooooooooo
evil is allwayes evil
never change
temtation too stay upon every good righteousness person..

you coming in peace where your offer of peace is zerooooooooooooooo
it is written
byyyyyyyyyy

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#462444 Jul 15, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Sera, you did say that the abuse is a Catholic thing, "that's why its in the news" if I remember your words correctly.
Look, I really ain't interested in he said she said. I know what you are about and I don't feel the need to go back two months to publicly rebuke you. Ill let your conscience be between you and God. He knows if you're deliberately trying to smear the Church with deceptive tactics. He knows if you really said the abuse problem is a Catholic thing and now you deny saying it.
Just leave it at that.
said that there was much more abuse in the catholic church not that it is a catholic only thing....and that is why it is always on the news.Dont worry Clay...one night after I tuck Hermi into bed and kiss him goodnight I will scroll back and post what I said....and your correct, God knows what we all said and whats in ALL of our hearts.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#462445 Jul 15, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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Ok, the priest normally prepares enough so that it will most all be consumed. Provided there is any left yes they consume it. We believe it should be treated with respect. There are protestant churches who also consume any remaining. Now the priest may invite others to consume remaining if there is too much. However on this very thread Kay Marie accused a server of hiding behind a curtain where she thought nobody would see and gulped the wined down. lol
Now what this new limit is I dont know nor do I know the reason it is opposed. I just dont want it to evolve into a Catholic bashing session where its see its WINE! Its not the blood of Christ! They Drank Grape Juice or Priests dont put water in it because they are all alchoholics. The accusations are endless.
I merely posted the links for further clarification of how Jews used wine at passover. The 4 cups. Adding water as well. I know that many people do not know the Jewish traditions or Catholic ones.
Dr. Hahn gives one of the best presentations on the 4th cup I have ever heard. I gave you the transcript on it (red) sorry not my choice, but if scroll over it then it turns blue or video. Whether one chooses to believe it is symbolic or becomes the precious blood of Christ spiritually in a way we cannot fully understand. The significants of the 4th cup and the events transpiring that night are brought out. My hope was that you would consider it and reflect on it as Dr. Hahn as a militant anti-catholic approaches it with a respectful view and how he as a Protestant viewed it.
Going through the motions, showing up at mass once a year and not understanding the faith, history or deeper understandings and knowledge of the teachings of the Early Fathers can lead some people to say they are Catholic or were a Catholic. Understaning why you believe something or the reason why something is believed one has to put in some effort. Many misconceptions can occur by others, but if I wanted to know for sure what a church taught and why I would go to a credible source of that church not go out and listen to the opinions of vast field of misinformation.
As I said I thought the idea of priests just from mass could not drive home was nuts..

So they do consume the wine ..nit sacrificed they do the host..Ok

When I was a Catholic we only did the host..no wine ..except the priests..But only seemed to sip it .

It IS still alcoholic ..ox point that it became blood ..I was bring a bit sarcastic.

However I once had someone on this forum wonder if the hist tasted like meat ..she was serious ..

Misconceptions .

I haves kindle tabled..all I saw was red ..on t hat link

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#462446 Jul 15, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Sera, you did say that the abuse is a Catholic thing, "that's why its in the news" if I remember your words correctly.
Look, I really ain't interested in he said she said. I know what you are about and I don't feel the need to go back two months to publicly rebuke you. Ill let your conscience be between you and God. He knows if you're deliberately trying to smear the Church with deceptive tactics. He knows if you really said the abuse problem is a Catholic thing and now you deny saying it.
Just leave it at that.
Clay she was saying that she believes there is more abuse in the Catholic Church because of the proliferation of news accounts.You read into it what you wanted to read into it.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

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#462447 Jul 15, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Tony17" Discuss? I'm not here to discuss the word of God with you because you're not qualified to discuss the word of God with me. I'm here to teach you the word of God,not discuss it with you.
So I'll keep teaching and you keep listening. Kay? Maybe in a few years of me teaching you then you will be able to discuss it with me but at this time as I stated, you're not qualified to discuss the word of God with me.
~~~
Psa 31:14 But I trusted in thee, O LORD: I said, Thou art my God.
Psa 31:15 My times are in thy hand: deliver me from the hand of mine enemies, and from them that persecute me.
Psa 31:16 Make thy face to shine upon thy servant: save me for thy mercies' sake.
Psa 31:17 Let me not be ashamed, O LORD; for I have called upon thee: let the wicked be ashamed, and let them be silent in the grave.
Psa 31:18 Let the lying lips be put to silence; which speak grievous things proudly and contemptuously against the righteous.
Psa 31:19 Oh how great is thy goodness, which thou hast laid up for them that fear thee; which thou hast wrought for them that trust in thee before the sons of men!
Psa 31:20 Thou shalt hide them in the secret of thy presence from the pride of man:
thou shalt keep them secretly in a pavilion from the strife of tongues.
Psa 31:21 Blessed be the LORD: for he hath shewed me his marvellous kindness in a strong city.
You should hear me when I teach the book of Psalms. Better still you should hear my pastor teach it. You'd be really blessed if you could hear the book of Psalms taught by a gifted teacher like my pastor. You'd never be the same again cause God will touch you through His word when it's taught accurately by someone He has anointed to teach His word accurately.

Anyone can quote scripture but to hear those scriptures taught with clarity and in-depth understanding is a blessing.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462448 Jul 15, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
God is only showing to all of us how great is His mercy.
About 25,000 people die every day of hunger or hunger-related causes, according to the United Nations. This is one person every three and a half seconds, as you can see on this display. Unfortunately, it is children who die most often.

http://www.poverty.com/

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#462449 Jul 15, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Not only do I believe it---But I KNOW IT! And so does every Catholic on this forum (Clay, Anthony, Regina included.. and on and on)--and that also includes the other 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world!...The above "trash article" source that you "dug up" refers to a bunch of Prodigal son liberals that are rebellious and defiant to the TRUE teachings of the Catholic Church, with one purpose in mind!! Promoting their immoral and perverted homosexual agenda, which is nothing new to the Catholic Church.
Hojo, wouldnt it be a wonderful magical world if it really worked that way... "It is true cause I know it.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#462450 Jul 15, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Jesus said, "I did not come to condemn the world."
KayMarie
Yet according to your theology ... hell is for those who don't believe in Jesus, and that is most people on earth.

Crazy theology!

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#462451 Jul 15, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>tony, it is just Oxbore acting stupid(well maybe not acting stupid).
he has some trick up his sleeve that only he knows.
but he is like you,
NEITHER ARE QUALIFIED TO BE A TEACHER OF THE WORD OF GOD.
God doesn't use people of your satanic practices, you know it and you know that we know it.
Why does Spiritually useless love to tell God who He is allowed to use and who He's not allowed to use. You guys make me laugh with that. It seems to puzzle you that someone like me knows more about Gods word than do you especially when you fancy yourselves as Bible scholars and I come along and make an open show of you with the very word of God you portend to be so familiar with. It embarrasses you and makes you fighting mad with me doesn't it?
truth

Embleton, Australia

#462452 Jul 15, 2013
devil paul saul
why you prosecuted me..is that your servent

it is written
nothing new under sky

Creator not create people for suffering.

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#462453 Jul 15, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Not only do I believe it---But I KNOW IT! And so does every Catholic on this forum (Clay, Anthony, Regina included.. and on and on)--and that also includes the other 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world!...The above "trash article" source that you "dug up" refers to a bunch of Prodigal son liberals that are rebellious and defiant to the TRUE teachings of the Catholic Church, with one purpose in mind!! Promoting their immoral and perverted homosexual agenda, which is nothing new to the Catholic Church.
okie dokie

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#462454 Jul 15, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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Tony, most of the world has been deceived by the false doctrines of the RCC. Even the jesus-is-savior site.
The Bible is firm on the Law of God. Not one word will pass from it.
The Seventh day sabbath will be kept in the age after the Second Coming. The Bible assures us of that.
Plenty of excuses have been put forward to make it seem right to keep Sunday.
Your choice.
Yes,you're right. It is my choice and I choose to let Christ be my Sabbath, my rest. It doesn't matter which day you observe as the Sabbath,if you're not resting In Christ,it will profit you nothing. My rest is in Christ EVERY DAY,not merely on a certain day of the week that one likes to claim is the Sabbath.

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#462455 Jul 15, 2013
ATTENTION ALL ORTHODOX PATRIARCHS

#1 I am Greek. We invented Philosophy.We invented Democracy.Therefore you will be my guide.I will always apply my God given mind and more importantly the spiritual eyes in my heart to what you say.How can critical thinking destroy God's Truth?

#2 I am a Christian.I worship Christ.He is the head of my Church.You are. like me, his servants.If you veer off his path in any proclamation you will not see me behind you. You will see me following Whom I worship Who is the head of the Church- My Savior.

Now call me a heretic and excommunicate me from you. I will be with Christ.

This one is for you Dusty
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#462456 Jul 15, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text> said that there was much more abuse in the catholic church not that it is a catholic only thing....and that is why it is always on the news.Dont worry Clay...one night after I tuck Hermi into bed and kiss him goodnight I will scroll back and post what I said....and your correct, God knows what we all said and whats in ALL of our hearts.
And did you have anything to back that slander up? NO And why did you post that? Because of your love. lol You are such a hypocrite. Since you and Herme love Christ so much and you are in the true church then why single out the Catholic church? Why bring up abuse? Gif among others have said many times Catholics are going to hell and posting your beliefs as well as the reason.

So you want to show the post where any Catholic has said you are going to hell? Can you show one where we wished it? So what if Hojo says he believes the Catholic church is the true church. Most Protestants believe they belong to the true church invisible or visible or why be in it or proclaim it.

James 3:1

I personally dont care if you want to believe your church is true, but dont post garbage and don't call it an abortion to the truth and stop pretending you didnt try to the smear the church. You have and you did. Stop lying.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#462457 Jul 15, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Hojo, wouldnt it be a wonderful magical world if it really worked that way... "It is true cause I know it.
Ya! Sometimes it requires a bit of "scars" on the person ta prove they been shot or stabbed...I got both....all that rhetoric is just that.
If yer gonna play in my world, ya gotta play by my rules.

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#462458 Jul 15, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Do you know there is talk amongst psychologist, about diagnosing religious fanatics as having a certain level of mental illness? I think I saw one story about it here on Topics last week.
There is a point where a guy like me just throws in the towel because I'm dealing with mind boggling ignorance from you.
Keep Saturday Holy if you want. I could care less. As a Catholic I'm going to continue gathering with my breathern on Sunday to celebrate the Holy Mass like the Apostles commanded; the day the Lord rose is Sunday. Sunday was established long before the Council of Laodicea proclaimed it official.
People like you forced the Church to hold council because you go around preaching false Christianitys. Then, when the Church publicly reaffirms certain teachings at these councils (like Sabbath worship), you turn around and stab them in the back, saying: "see everyone, the Roman Catholic Church just invented another doctrine Blah Blah".
With the exception of the Shabbat, the weekdays have no names. They are simply numbered:

alef yom rishon = "first day" =(Sunday)
bet yom sheni = "second day" =(Monday)
gimel yom sh'lishi = "third day" =(Tuesday)
dalet yom revi'i = "fourth day" =(Wednesday)
he yom chamishi = "fifth day" =(Thursday)
vav yom shishi = "sixth day" =(Friday)

Saturday is the weekly sabbath as taught in the Word of God...

Christ was crucified on Friday. He died about mid-afternoon.That is why they were in a hurry to get the body of Christ down from the cross....prepare his body for burial....and bury him before sundown...because that is the beginning of the Sabbath in the NT...sundown Friday till sundown Saturday...

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#462459 Jul 15, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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And did you have anything to back that slander up? NO And why did you post that? Because of your love. lol You are such a hypocrite. Since you and Herme love Christ so much and you are in the true church then why single out the Catholic church? Why bring up abuse? Gif among others have said many times Catholics are going to hell and posting your beliefs as well as the reason.
So you want to show the post where any Catholic has said you are going to hell? Can you show one where we wished it? So what if Hojo says he believes the Catholic church is the true church. Most Protestants believe they belong to the true church invisible or visible or why be in it or proclaim it.
James 3:1
I personally dont care if you want to believe your church is true, but dont post garbage and don't call it an abortion to the truth and stop pretending you didnt try to the smear the church. You have and you did. Stop lying.
It is sad that someone saying they love someone would bring a mocking, sarcastic,poisonous respose rom you. It however does give me some insight into your posts.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#462460 Jul 15, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
ATTENTION ALL ORTHODOX PATRIARCHS
#1 I am Greek. We invented Philosophy.We invented Democracy.Therefore you will be my guide.I will always apply my God given mind and more importantly the spiritual eyes in my heart to what you say.How can critical thinking destroy God's Truth?
#2 I am a Christian.I worship Christ.He is the head of my Church.You are. like me, his servants.If you veer off his path in any proclamation you will not see me behind you. You will see me following Whom I worship Who is the head of the Church- My Savior.
Now call me a heretic and excommunicate me from you. I will be with Christ.
This one is for you Dusty
The Greks did not "invent" any of the foregoing hypothesis. They simply elaborated upon them.

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