Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

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confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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IN YOUR LYING ARROGANCE YOU WROTE
"The fact that it was the "only Church" around at that time confirms it as One-Universal-Catholic Church.
THE TRUE CHURCH IS AS OLD AS GOD IS...
It existed in Heaven before the worlds were framed..
THE FURNITURE OF THE PORTABLE TEMPLE, under the Law of Moses
was made in the similitude of the Temple in the heaven-lies..
as was the temple of Solomon..
STEPHEN SAID THAT THE CHURCH EXISTED IN THE WILDERNESS...
Act 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
THE CHURCH is defined In Greek as
G1577
&#949;&#787;&#954; &#954;&#955;&#951; &#963;&#953;&#769; &#945;
ekkle&#772;sia
ek-klay-see'-ah
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is,(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):- assembly, church.
THERE IS NO RECORD IN THE BIBLE WHERE A ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS
SEPARATED UNTO GOD ..... CALLED OUT...CHOSEN....as a religious
congregation...under GRACE...
AND YOU CANNOT SHOW SCRIPTURE THAT AUTHENTICATES IT'S EXISTENCE.
IT ONLY ASSUMED ITSELF INTO THE POSITION IT CLAIMS...
The True Church is as old as God? Now that's a new one.Now that talking loco...lol

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#461132 Jul 11, 2013
hojo wrote:
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU DON'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST IDEA OF WHAT THE APOSTLES TAUGHT..
THE BIBLE RECORDS THE TRUTH..AND TRUTH CAN BE MEASURED BY IT.
THE BIBLE SAYS...
Where in the bible does its say that ALL TRUTH can be measured ONLY by what the bible says!!! You have "made this up" just like you do in the majority of the distorted comments that you make, Confrinting!!
There is NOTHING written in the bible or recorded in over 2000 years of TRUE Apostolic Church History that has ANY TRUTH to what you claim!! The Apostles taught in the Early Church,(without a bible)---by word of mouth and tradition) handed down to them, be Jesus HIMSELF-----beginning with Our Lords first Church in Antioch! Then Corinth, then Galatia, then Ephesus, then Philippi, then Colossus, then Thessalonica and on and on----BEFORE the bible was even written in 397 AD.....By WHO???? The Early Church Fathers who interpreted the letters, documents, manuscripts and parchments from the Apostles!!!...Get a TRUE Church History lesson, Confrinting, instead of (making up your own version of history) by quoting (or better yet misquoting) a bunch of "relative truth" interpretations of the bible---that have "CONFRINTING EDITORIALIZED PERSONAL OPINIONS" (written ALL over them)........The fact is Confrinting, that we as Catholic ALL KNOW that you would NEVER, put aside your "pride, ego and vindictive hostile anti-catholic attitude,m to study and learn the TRUTH about ANYTHING that is historically DOCUMENTED to TRUE when it comes to 2000 years of authenticated and verifiable PROVEN Apostolic Church History.......The fact is that YOU KNOW IT and WE (as Catholics ALL KNOW, that your bible only "pyramid of (self-interpreted verses, would completely crumble your "bible only" ministry that is built on NOTHING more that "sand", supported ONLY by condemnation and judgement against the faith of other Christians==especially Catholics........ Until you come to the TRUTH of TRUE SALVATION in Jesus Christ---you will NEVER be transformed into this "new person" in Jesus Christ! Ever since you have been on this forum, it has been the "same old" personal opinionated attacks and vengeance against Jesus Christ HIMSELF and the One (and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church that he initiated, established and formed in Matthew 16:13-21. Quoting and listing a bunch of bible verses "doesn't make you a Christian"!!v
you need to stop spreading lies about Church history and get it right yourself before trying to teach others....catholic ch 1054...remember lol by the way...if the Church is as old as God,how did the Church exist before man was created??? Ever thing of that one...lol

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#461133 Jul 11, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>The lies are just pitiful.It would be best to say nothing....
Hey Sera

I do not understand the logic.

The pipe apologizes ..And I think he IS,a saint btw.

And they try to tell me what I did nit learn as Catholic in the sixties.

The Pope for us was speaking for God .

Now,as a,little kid ok..But I went to Catholic High School for almost two years.

No mention of the Inquistion. Or the power of the Vatican in politics
In any World history discussion.

Then as an adult I hear abut people like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_V...

And I'm shocked .

All I can say is JOHN Paul is responsible for any resurgence in Catholic faith.

Imo

And I think this new Pope will s surprise everyone just by His humility..But we shall see.

I know what I was taught and it irks me..though I like Clay ..to be told I was taught different..Or mire.

The age before VATICAN 2 was very different

I am convinced the nuns who taught me are with Jesus ..that's nit the point .

I do not hate the CC as one poster thinks .

I actually think we should be and are brothers and sisters in Christ ...

Also said by THAT BLESSED POPE

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/H...

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#461134 Jul 11, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The TRUE CHURCH that Jesus initiated, established and formed in Matthew 16 is confirmed in Acts 2, was a heirarchical, authoritative and visible Church with Bishops, priests, elders and deacons and its was referred to as "CATHOLIC" as stated by Ignatius in a letter (057AD)..The Apostles of Jesus who taught, led and directed the Churches beginning with the 1st Church in Antioch were Bishops! The Greek word for "Church" is "ecclesia" which refers to the visible, heirarchical, authoritative Church, NOT and invisible, ethereal body of believers (loosely) connected by faith in the bible alone!...... Your "bible only" (man-made Protestant religion was NEVER believed by ANYONE until the 17th century. It has "absolutely --no basis of ANY biblical or historical truth to back up ANY of "relative truth" beliefs. It is NOTHING but a extention of the Protestant Reformation that has over 42,000 contradicting and conflicting "hodge-podge" of inconsistent interpretations of the bible...... AS USUAL CONFRINTING, you continue to "distort" the truth of the bible with the same old "self-interpretating lies",(making up whatever you (hope) that you can "get away with"--- deceiving others as you deceive yourself, as you "continue" to remain on the outside of the TRUTH --always looking in---at Jesus Christs One TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church, which has been historically and biblically PROVEN,(consistently)(for over 2000 years).
No....the only ones here that are deceived is you and your church.

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#461135 Jul 11, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The TRUE CHURCH that Jesus initiated, established and formed in Matthew 16 is confirmed in Acts 2, was a heirarchical, authoritative and visible Church with Bishops, priests, elders and deacons and its was referred to as "CATHOLIC" as stated by Ignatius in a letter (057AD)..The Apostles of Jesus who taught, led and directed the Churches beginning with the 1st Church in Antioch were Bishops! The Greek word for "Church" is "ecclesia" which refers to the visible, heirarchical, authoritative Church, NOT and invisible, ethereal body of believers (loosely) connected by faith in the bible alone!...... Your "bible only" (man-made Protestant religion was NEVER believed by ANYONE until the 17th century. It has "absolutely --no basis of ANY biblical or historical truth to back up ANY of "relative truth" beliefs. It is NOTHING but a extention of the Protestant Reformation that has over 42,000 contradicting and conflicting "hodge-podge" of inconsistent interpretations of the bible...... AS USUAL CONFRINTING, you continue to "distort" the truth of the bible with the same old "self-interpretating lies",(making up whatever you (hope) that you can "get away with"--- deceiving others as you deceive yourself, as you "continue" to remain on the outside of the TRUTH --always looking in---at Jesus Christs One TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church, which has been historically and biblically PROVEN,(consistently)(for over 2000 years).
Catholics saved the name. The Orthodox saved the faith. Id rather have the faith. Keep the name

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#461136 Jul 11, 2013
No Church is as old as God.We better quickly learn that we are unworthy and should never ever compare our church to God in any way other than that our churches and the people in them are not fit to tie the sandals of the Christ.

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#461137 Jul 11, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Sera
I do not understand the logic.
The pipe apologizes ..And I think he IS,a saint btw.
And they try to tell me what I did nit learn as Catholic in the sixties.
The Pope for us was speaking for God .
Now,as a,little kid ok..But I went to Catholic High School for almost two years.
No mention of the Inquistion. Or the power of the Vatican in politics
In any World history discussion.
Then as an adult I hear abut people like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_V...
And I'm shocked .
All I can say is JOHN Paul is responsible for any resurgence in Catholic faith.
Imo
And I think this new Pope will s surprise everyone just by His humility..But we shall see.
I know what I was taught and it irks me..though I like Clay ..to be told I was taught different..Or mire.
The age before VATICAN 2 was very different
I am convinced the nuns who taught me are with Jesus ..that's nit the point .
I do not hate the CC as one poster thinks .
I actually think we should be and are brothers and sisters in Christ ...
Also said by THAT BLESSED POPE
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/H...
Hello Rose....I agree with you.I believe as you say that you were taught what the catholic church wanted to teach.I believe that one problem that the catholic church as is arrogance.They should learn to be more humble.I have a link of the corrupted Popes if you what it..its called popes gone wild...just with the past history of the catholic church, I find it very hard to believe and rightfully so, that Christ Church would behind such behavior. By the way, I find your post to be sincere....

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#461138 Jul 11, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Catholics saved the name. The Orthodox saved the faith. Id rather have the faith. Keep the name
Amen sweetie!!!

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#461139 Jul 11, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
No Church is as old as God.We better quickly learn that we are unworthy and should never ever compare our church to God in any way other than that our churches and the people in them are not fit to tie the sandals of the Christ.
Well said!!.....

“Let the Children”

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#461141 Jul 11, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Hello Rose....I agree with you.I believe as you say that you were taught what the catholic church wanted to teach.I believe that one problem that the catholic church as is arrogance.They should learn to be more humble.I have a link of the corrupted Popes if you what it..its called popes gone wild...just with the past history of the catholic church, I find it very hard to believe and rightfully so, that Christ Church would behind such behavior. By the way, I find your post to be sincere....
I will look for it ..thanks ..I really have no reason to lie about my own education

I don't know if you two read fiction.

I found a great set if books from. AMAZON KINDLE
And the app is good on any device...fiction about Christ but very interesting about A young Christ..John the Baptist ..And John the apostles. The good thing about using the EBook is you can get samples..plus they are less e expensive:)

http://www.amazon.com/D.-L.-Maynard/e/B00B2ZF...

NOW the very best fictional books about characters we have met in the bible ..the AD Chronicles by Broch a nn d Bodie Thoene

Book 4 5 6 of the Zion Legacy st a rat it and some will make you cry ..all the parts on Jesus and heALING and interacting are SCRIPTURAL

And this series also focuses on Jerusalem after Israel became a nation
And their fight


http://www.amazon.com/The-Jerusalem-Scrolls-S...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bookseries/B00CIVKCV...

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#461142 Jul 11, 2013
Mercy me wrote:
<quoted text>I feel so sorry for you, you are so naivete. Of course Catholics were taught about the past , the hisory of the church pre VaticanII days. Where do you get your ideas from anyway? You know pretestants burned the witches in the Salam witch treials. I think maybe history wasn't your greatest subject. Please quit commenting on the Catholic Church. I asked you nice, now please stop.
That [is] the topic of the thread you know.

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#461143 Jul 11, 2013
Mercy me wrote:
<quoted text> No Pope has ever allowed child molesters. I have heard that TBN is in trouble with a few of their preachers and the founder himself. I heard that the lady with the pink hair is really divorced from the head of the network because he has had extra marital affairs with young men. And I bet you send them your hard earned money. Also their son thinks heaven is here on earth, some new age crappola. He also doesn't agree with his dad on religion.
ALL the Abrahamic cults are infested with pedophilia and dishonesty...
Wear it...

The more you all accuse each other's organizations of the same your own is guilty of, the more reason the world has to cull your cults.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#461144 Jul 11, 2013
Tempest wrote:
<quoted text>The Catholic Church was started by Christ. The True Presence in the Eucharist.
LOL!
Jesus didn't even know what "catholic" was....let alone the superhero your choreographers made his deceased person into.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#461145 Jul 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~~~~~
IN YOUR LYING ARROGANCE YOU WROTE
"The fact that it was the "only Church" around at that time confirms it as One-Universal-Catholic Church.
THE TRUE CHURCH IS AS OLD AS GOD IS...
It existed in Heaven before the worlds were framed..
THE FURNITURE OF THE PORTABLE TEMPLE, under the Law of Moses
was made in the similitude of the Temple in the heaven-lies..
as was the temple of Solomon..
STEPHEN SAID THAT THE CHURCH EXISTED IN THE WILDERNESS...
Act 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
THE CHURCH is defined In Greek as
G1577
&#949;&#787;&#954; &#954;&#955;&#951; &#963;&#953;&#769; &#945;
ekkle&#772;sia
ek-klay-see'-ah
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is,(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):- assembly, church.
THERE IS NO RECORD IN THE BIBLE WHERE A ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS
SEPARATED UNTO GOD ..... CALLED OUT...CHOSEN....as a religious
congregation...under GRACE...
AND YOU CANNOT SHOW SCRIPTURE THAT AUTHENTICATES IT'S EXISTENCE.
IT ONLY ASSUMED ITSELF INTO THE POSITION IT CLAIMS...
Sounds more like a refabrication of the Epic of Gilgamesh to me.
Heaven must have been Gobekli Tepe.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#461146 Jul 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
According to the Catholics Jesus loved to work his magic of forgiving sin in Catholic confessionals in most countries of the world. Yet he never had the honor of being called a pope, a cardinal, a priest, a saint, or even a mother superior.
We don't have to wonder why the Catholics and Protestants won't refer to Jesus by his title of Rabboni.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>
Signs & Symbols in Christian Art
The Appearances.
The first person to whom Christ is reported to have appeared is Mary Magdalene, when she went to His tomb. She didn't recognize Jesus, whom she supposed to be the gardener, until he spoke her name.‘Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni
A drunken man staggers in to a Catholic church and wanders over to the confessional box.

He opens the door, sits down and says nothing. The bewildered priest waits for a few minutes, allowing the drunken man some time to collect his thoughts. Growing impatient, the priest coughs to attract his attention, but still the man says nothing.

The priest then knocks on the wall three times in a final attempt to get the man to speak. Finally, the drunk replies: "No use knockin' mate, there's no paper in this one either."

“Let the Children”

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#461147 Jul 12, 2013
Mercy me wrote:
<quoted text>What? When did I ever accuse you? I don't see why you are on a Catholic forum, please quit posting about my church, you post lies. I have no idea where you get your stuff from and Jack Cgick is a protestant publication that is full of hatred.
Sigh

Please do not insult my intelligence.

And I do not read that site as I have told YOU.

“Let the Children”

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#461148 Jul 12, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Hon, you need to read Matthew 24:34 in context. Let me help you:
<quoted text>
I don't recall all those events occurring before the (putative) first return, let alone the clear description of the Jerusalem siege in the passages preceding that quote. The siege took place 40 years after Jesus' death.
But Jesus did not return then .

And the real tribulation is yet to come

“Let the Children”

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#461149 Jul 12, 2013
Tempest wrote:
<quoted text>The Catholic Church was started by Christ. The True Presence in the Eucharist.
Nothing but the Cross of Jesus

He is the Way..not any Church run by men
Clay

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#461150 Jul 12, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>The lies are just pitiful.It would be best to say nothing....
I implied the Orthodox committed terrible injustices against Catholics. That is no lie and I can give plenty of links if I wasn't on my phone.

The lie is for you and Herm to be so naive, that you would deny it.
Pope John Paul knew his apology to your Bishops wouldn't be returned. Perhaps they were as ignorant as you or they didn't want to publicly acknowledge that they could sin too.

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#461151 Jul 12, 2013
VATICAN CITY (AP)— Pope Francis overhauled the laws that govern the Vatican City State on Thursday, criminalizing leaks of Vatican information and specifically listing sexual violence, prostitution and possession of child pornography as crimes against children that can be punished by up to 12 years in prison.

The legislation covers clergy and lay people who live and work in Vatican City and is different from the canon law which covers the universal Catholic Church.

It was issued at a critical time, as the Vatican gears up for a grilling by a U.N. committee on its efforts to protect children under a key U.N. convention and prevent priests from sexually abusing them. The Vatican signed and ratified the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child in 1990 yet only now — 23 years later — has it updated its legislation to reflect some of the treaty's core provisions.

The bulk of the Vatican's penal code is based on the 1889 Italian code, and in many ways is outdated. Much of the hodge-podge of laws passed Thursday — which range from listing crimes against humanity to the illicit appropriation of nuclear material — bring the Vatican up to date with the many U.N. conventions it has signed over the years.

Others were necessary to comply with international norms to fight money-laundering, part of the Vatican's more recent push toward financial transparency. And still others were designed to update the Vatican's legal system with contemporary practice: The new law cancels out lifetime prison sentences, for example, and instead imposes maximum sentences of 30-35 years in prison.

One new crime stands out as an obvious response to the leaks of papal documents last year that represented one of the gravest Vatican security breaches in recent times.

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