Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

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#461139 Jul 11, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
No Church is as old as God.We better quickly learn that we are unworthy and should never ever compare our church to God in any way other than that our churches and the people in them are not fit to tie the sandals of the Christ.
Well said!!.....

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#461141 Jul 11, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Hello Rose....I agree with you.I believe as you say that you were taught what the catholic church wanted to teach.I believe that one problem that the catholic church as is arrogance.They should learn to be more humble.I have a link of the corrupted Popes if you what it..its called popes gone wild...just with the past history of the catholic church, I find it very hard to believe and rightfully so, that Christ Church would behind such behavior. By the way, I find your post to be sincere....
I will look for it ..thanks ..I really have no reason to lie about my own education

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#461142 Jul 11, 2013
Mercy me wrote:
<quoted text>I feel so sorry for you, you are so naivete. Of course Catholics were taught about the past , the hisory of the church pre VaticanII days. Where do you get your ideas from anyway? You know pretestants burned the witches in the Salam witch treials. I think maybe history wasn't your greatest subject. Please quit commenting on the Catholic Church. I asked you nice, now please stop.
That [is] the topic of the thread you know.

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#461143 Jul 11, 2013
Mercy me wrote:
<quoted text> No Pope has ever allowed child molesters. I have heard that TBN is in trouble with a few of their preachers and the founder himself. I heard that the lady with the pink hair is really divorced from the head of the network because he has had extra marital affairs with young men. And I bet you send them your hard earned money. Also their son thinks heaven is here on earth, some new age crappola. He also doesn't agree with his dad on religion.
ALL the Abrahamic cults are infested with pedophilia and dishonesty...
Wear it...

The more you all accuse each other's organizations of the same your own is guilty of, the more reason the world has to cull your cults.

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#461144 Jul 11, 2013
Tempest wrote:
<quoted text>The Catholic Church was started by Christ. The True Presence in the Eucharist.
LOL!
Jesus didn't even know what "catholic" was....let alone the superhero your choreographers made his deceased person into.

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#461145 Jul 12, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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IN YOUR LYING ARROGANCE YOU WROTE
"The fact that it was the "only Church" around at that time confirms it as One-Universal-Catholic Church.
THE TRUE CHURCH IS AS OLD AS GOD IS...
It existed in Heaven before the worlds were framed..
THE FURNITURE OF THE PORTABLE TEMPLE, under the Law of Moses
was made in the similitude of the Temple in the heaven-lies..
as was the temple of Solomon..
STEPHEN SAID THAT THE CHURCH EXISTED IN THE WILDERNESS...
Act 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
THE CHURCH is defined In Greek as
G1577
&#949;&#787;&#954; &#954;&#955;&#951; &#963;&#953;&#769; &#945;
ekkle&#772;sia
ek-klay-see'-ah
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is,(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):- assembly, church.
THERE IS NO RECORD IN THE BIBLE WHERE A ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS
SEPARATED UNTO GOD ..... CALLED OUT...CHOSEN....as a religious
congregation...under GRACE...
AND YOU CANNOT SHOW SCRIPTURE THAT AUTHENTICATES IT'S EXISTENCE.
IT ONLY ASSUMED ITSELF INTO THE POSITION IT CLAIMS...
Sounds more like a refabrication of the Epic of Gilgamesh to me.
Heaven must have been Gobekli Tepe.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#461146 Jul 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
According to the Catholics Jesus loved to work his magic of forgiving sin in Catholic confessionals in most countries of the world. Yet he never had the honor of being called a pope, a cardinal, a priest, a saint, or even a mother superior.
We don't have to wonder why the Catholics and Protestants won't refer to Jesus by his title of Rabboni.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>
Signs & Symbols in Christian Art
The Appearances.
The first person to whom Christ is reported to have appeared is Mary Magdalene, when she went to His tomb. She didn't recognize Jesus, whom she supposed to be the gardener, until he spoke her name.‘Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni
A drunken man staggers in to a Catholic church and wanders over to the confessional box.

He opens the door, sits down and says nothing. The bewildered priest waits for a few minutes, allowing the drunken man some time to collect his thoughts. Growing impatient, the priest coughs to attract his attention, but still the man says nothing.

The priest then knocks on the wall three times in a final attempt to get the man to speak. Finally, the drunk replies: "No use knockin' mate, there's no paper in this one either."

“Let the Children”

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#461147 Jul 12, 2013
Mercy me wrote:
<quoted text>What? When did I ever accuse you? I don't see why you are on a Catholic forum, please quit posting about my church, you post lies. I have no idea where you get your stuff from and Jack Cgick is a protestant publication that is full of hatred.
Sigh

Please do not insult my intelligence.

And I do not read that site as I have told YOU.

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#461148 Jul 12, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Hon, you need to read Matthew 24:34 in context. Let me help you:
<quoted text>
I don't recall all those events occurring before the (putative) first return, let alone the clear description of the Jerusalem siege in the passages preceding that quote. The siege took place 40 years after Jesus' death.
But Jesus did not return then .

And the real tribulation is yet to come

“Let the Children”

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#461149 Jul 12, 2013
Tempest wrote:
<quoted text>The Catholic Church was started by Christ. The True Presence in the Eucharist.
Nothing but the Cross of Jesus

He is the Way..not any Church run by men
Clay

United States

#461150 Jul 12, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>The lies are just pitiful.It would be best to say nothing....
I implied the Orthodox committed terrible injustices against Catholics. That is no lie and I can give plenty of links if I wasn't on my phone.

The lie is for you and Herm to be so naive, that you would deny it.
Pope John Paul knew his apology to your Bishops wouldn't be returned. Perhaps they were as ignorant as you or they didn't want to publicly acknowledge that they could sin too.

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#461151 Jul 12, 2013
VATICAN CITY (AP)— Pope Francis overhauled the laws that govern the Vatican City State on Thursday, criminalizing leaks of Vatican information and specifically listing sexual violence, prostitution and possession of child pornography as crimes against children that can be punished by up to 12 years in prison.

The legislation covers clergy and lay people who live and work in Vatican City and is different from the canon law which covers the universal Catholic Church.

It was issued at a critical time, as the Vatican gears up for a grilling by a U.N. committee on its efforts to protect children under a key U.N. convention and prevent priests from sexually abusing them. The Vatican signed and ratified the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child in 1990 yet only now — 23 years later — has it updated its legislation to reflect some of the treaty's core provisions.

The bulk of the Vatican's penal code is based on the 1889 Italian code, and in many ways is outdated. Much of the hodge-podge of laws passed Thursday — which range from listing crimes against humanity to the illicit appropriation of nuclear material — bring the Vatican up to date with the many U.N. conventions it has signed over the years.

Others were necessary to comply with international norms to fight money-laundering, part of the Vatican's more recent push toward financial transparency. And still others were designed to update the Vatican's legal system with contemporary practice: The new law cancels out lifetime prison sentences, for example, and instead imposes maximum sentences of 30-35 years in prison.

One new crime stands out as an obvious response to the leaks of papal documents last year that represented one of the gravest Vatican security breaches in recent times.

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#461152 Jul 12, 2013
Paolo Gabriele, the butler for then-Pope Benedict XVI, was tried and convicted by a Vatican court of stealing Benedict's personal papers and giving them to an Italian journalist.

Using the documents, journalist Gianluigi Nuzzi published a blockbuster book on the petty turf wars, bureaucratic dysfunction and allegations of corruption and homosexual liaisons in the highest levels of Catholic Church governance.

Gabriele was convicted of aggravated theft and sentenced to 18 months in the Vatican's police barracks. Benedict eventually pardoned him, but his crime devastated the Vatican, shattering the confidentiality that typically governs correspondence with the pope.

In an indication of how serious the Vatican considers such confidentiality, the penalties for violations of the new law are stiff: Anyone who reveals or receives confidential information or documentation risks six months to two years in prison and a €2,000 euro ($2,500) fine; the penalty goes up to eight years in prison if the material concerns the "fundamental interests" of the Holy See or its diplomatic relations.

Sexual crimes did exist in the previous law, but in a general form in the archaic code as a crime against "good customs."

The new law defines crimes against children under age 18, including the sale of children, child prostitution, recruiting children, sexual violence, sexual acts with children and the production and possession of child pornography.

In the old code, such general crimes would have carried a maximum penalty of three to 10 years, the Vatican said. Under the revision, the punishments go from five to 10 years, with aggravating circumstances bringing the maximum up to 12 years and a fine of 150,000 euros.

Codifying that law answers one of the questions posed to the Holy See last week by the U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child, which will evaluate the Holy See's implementation of the core U.N. treaty protecting children in early 2014.

Other questions will be more problematic for the Holy See to answer, including a request for "detailed information on all cases of child sexual abuse committed by members of the clergy, brothers and nuns" that have been brought to the Vatican's attention over the years.

The Vatican has long considered cases of clerical sex abuse to be the responsibility of local bishops, not the central authority of the Catholic Church.

Vatican officials said it would be wrong to assume that just because these new laws criminalize certain behavior that the behavior previously was legal. It merely means that, 100 years ago, child pornography was not specified as a crime in either the Italian legal code or the Vatican's.

"The introduction of the new regulation is useful to define the specific cases with greater certainty and precisions, and to thus satisfy the international parameters, calibrating the sanctions to the specific gravity of the case," the Vatican foreign minister, Monsignor Dominique Mamberti, wrote in Thursday's Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano.

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usa

#461153 Jul 12, 2013
this pope is making waves, he better be careful, the last pope who made waves within the Vatican was pope for only 33 days, died mysteriously, most likely at the hands of the mafia, a favor to the church for laundering money for them.

Since: Nov 08

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#461154 Jul 12, 2013
book by ajay kansal: Publication Date:August 9, 2012
Did gods create mankind, or did mankind create gods?
Human interest in the origin of life has been documented throughout the recorded history. Religious scriptures the world over claim that one or other god gave birth to humans, but science has not yet identified any supernatural power that created and governed human beings. Did primeval humans come up with the idea of gods to help them cope with their fears? Could it be that they attributed natural phenomena—unfathomable and frightening to them—to the working of invisible divine powers?
This book utilizes modern science to explain why, when and how religions and gods became the desirable explanations for the inexplicable events. It is a compilation of anthropological and historical facts about the evolution of gods, and describes how human imagination created gods.
The book begins with the period, around 100,000 years ago, when nomadic humans invented languages and began to discuss and analyze each happening around them. Whatever they could not comprehend, their priests attributed to some unseen power. At some point in time, humankind began an activity called worship. Humans began to worship each seen or unseen power, which was beyond their control, but could either harm or help them. Priests all over the world invented almost identical methods of worship, such as folding their hands, bowing, kneeling, floral offering, prayers and sacrifices.
For example, anthropologists believe that during the last Ice Age, humans had largely inadequate protection against cold; their survival depended largely upon available sunlight—something beyond their control. In that scenario, solar worship was a logical outcome. In a similar manner, they found thunder and lightning inexplicable and frightening; gradually, they began to worship the sky as a god. There is enough historical evidence to assert that the ancestors of Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Christians and Muslims worshipped the sun and the sky, before their religions came into practice.
Around three thousand years ago, cultivation provided several facilities to humanity that paved the way for population explosion. At the same time, a more settled way of life exposed people to pets, rodents, mosquitoes, houseflies and parasites. All these factors together gave rise to devastating new diseases such as cholera, tuberculosis, typhoid and plague. In addition to these diseases, population explosion resulted in social diseases such as poverty, inequality, injustice, crime and exploitation. Consequently, most people were forced to lead miserable lives no better than hell. Around this time, a few geniuses such as the Buddha and Moses discovered the causes and remedies of human sufferings. Contemporary priests transcribed their teachings as the holy scriptures. These books mentions worship of new gods, sacrifices, magic or morals to eradicate human miseries: the miserable masses had no option but to follow those advices. These scriptures fashioned the organized religions of today. Thus, history demonstrates that whenever humans faced a new challenge, priests invented a more useful deity and consigned the older one to oblivion.
continued.

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#461155 Jul 12, 2013
Humanity invented religions and gods to wrestle with their mysteries and miseries. On the contrary, religious dogmas halted the progress of science, facilitated human exploitation, instigated many massacres and wars throughout history and ultimately gave rise to modern terrorism. The knowledge about the evolution of gods may vaccinate the readers against the disease of fanaticism.
Let us think for a moment why humanity developed several religious concepts but only one science. For example, one dogma avers idol worship and the other asserts the contrary: scientific principles have no such ambiguities. There is a concrete reason behind this contradiction: about one thing or concept there is only one truth, but there can be many lies. This book is an effort to light a candle in the darkest corner of human consciousness....finished
truth

Perth, Australia

#461156 Jul 12, 2013
it is written all Catholic and Christians will be accused abused assault prosecuted put in prison and killed..is that some funny kind of intelligence..
yeppppppppppppp

if are you victim..you need know you are not first from evil people which don't have any shame

then you will find justice is not justice
satanic wicket people not spear anyone

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#461157 Jul 12, 2013
truth wrote:
it is written all Catholic and Christians will be accused abused assault prosecuted put in prison and killed..is that some funny kind of intelligence..
yeppppppppppppp
if are you victim..you need know you are not first from evil people which don't have any shame
then you will find justice is not justice
satanic wicket people not spear anyone
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyypro secuted
Catholics are going to prison for crimes committed against children, an some for bank fraud, money laundering. Christians who chose not to join catholic church were imprisoned, beaten, tortured, used as fodder in the arenas of Rome and killed out right just because they did not believe in the man made teachings of the catholic church, the catechism does not compliment the bible or any scripture, it tells you to pray to Mary and various saints which goes against gods word, no one can come between god an man except Jesus only, it's clearly stated in the bible, book of timothy.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#461158 Jul 12, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Priests also molested girls and nuns molested girls and boys.
Your inference that priests only molested boys causes homosexuals to be brutalized, and I don't appreciate that agenda.
Homosexuals are NOT pedophiles. That is two totally different mind-sets.
I did not mean to infer that at all, I just said don't bend over around a priest, I did not mention any particular group that it applied to. no offense intended.
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#461159 Jul 12, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
But Jesus did not return then....
Well, there you go, hon.

No wonder early Christians were troubled, eh?

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