Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#460305 Jul 9, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
AMEN
YOU WROTE...
What do we do to CALL PEOPLE TO JESUS TODAY...
~~~
OUR WORK IS THE SAME TODAY AS IT WAS WHEN JESUS SPOKE IT FORTH
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
He said..when ask...
Joh 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them..
-->This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
I agree ..I just get sad..And I'm guilty too.
When on some of these forums forums and this one is tame .
We just bicker over whose Church is right
I get sad
When people USe Jesus

To put down others.

What does it say to

Non believers or people the Spirit may be calling who
Might actually be searching

We we Christians hurt others with our words

What does it say about Jesus and His mercy.

I edit a lot on another forum. Personal insults going both ways

But I feel we shoukd do better...

I prayed really hard on this the other nite when I forced hurt and angry on personal insults

Bringing unprovoked past..Taunting others ..

It's nit what Christians shoukd be doing IMO .

AND on this thread with RELIGIUIS,content

We should be calling people to HIM by our words and actions

Not to any Church ...But Him alone

I am not jealous if In plant a seed and it is harvested elsewhere.

We shoukd be planting seeds IMO.

Not fighting on who lives Jesus more. Again my opinion ..

Some mysteries we will not know the facts of until we are told when we are with Him.

Including but not limited to The EUCHARIST

FAITH ..Grace ..Salvation..lead us to our own personal relationship.
With Jedi s.

Fir what it's worth I was reading here this morning

And felt led to post this..

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460306 Jul 9, 2013
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>So The Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God.
That's all Christian dogma. Rumor has it that the god of the Jews doesn't recognize anything Christian, as it's not on his radar screen TO recognize.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460307 Jul 9, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
That makes three Gods.
A deity giving birth to itself then killing itself to become a magic ghost is ridiculous.
The mythological Worm Ouroboros makes infinitely more sense.
:)
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#460308 Jul 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe your Catholic theologians were experts at giving advise about human behavior according to the god created and worshipped FIRST by the Jews???
June:

Always such very, very, loaded questions....I sometimes wonder if you know you are asking them?

As always you force me to break them down. And when I do, they turn into nonsense.

Jews did not create God. Nor did they create God first. Nor did they worship God first.

I suppose it is for each of us to see how "expertly" the Catholic theologians(you need to be a bit more specific on who "they" are) expounded their teachings, in order to determine for onerself the correctness of the teachings.

For instance, I disagree with Acquinas and agree with Scotus on various religious matters.

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#460309 Jul 9, 2013
...relationship with JESUS.

MY KINDLE makes up words ..not easy to type on .

SORRY

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#460310 Jul 9, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Black Thunder 42
Thinking people resolve errors. Unthinking people continue in error for the sake of self-justification. And that in essence is blind faith, or faith without reason.
Religionists must have faith and reason in order to function. If they don't, then they fail to resolve living in the world. But one does not have to be a religionist, people apparently would rather be led, than stand up for what is right(at this time in history). Whether their leaders, or mob-democracies are right or wrong.
~~~

YOU WROTE

Religionists must have faith and reason in order to function.

IN MY OPINION ....THE BEST DEFINITION OF FAITH IN THE BIBLE

Is about Abraham the father of faith...

The Apostle Paul put it this way...

Rom 4:20 ---> He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

Rom 4:21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.<---

Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

NOTE====>

Rom 4:23 ====> Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Rom 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. <====

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460311 Jul 9, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
"It is a source of great frustration and annoyance to me to hear people inaccurately say (often in reference to Saint Christopher) "After Vatican II they got rid of a whole bunch of saints that were just myths!" or "They decanonized Saints Christopher & Philomena!"
A lot of people "knowingly" repeat this disinformation, having heard it or been taught it in a vaiety of places.(The pastor at my Catholic grade school explained Saint Chrisopher was "just a legend" to us as school children. I suspect he will be VERY suprised one day.)
I suggest your information is misinformation
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

The Making of a Saint

Note

In 1969 the Vatican cast a critical eye on more than 40 saints and dropped them from the official catalog, or liturgical calendar. Removed were such well-known saints as Saint Christopher (the patron saint of travelers), Saint Barbara, and Saint Valentine. Some of the saints were dropped because doubts had been raised in the last few centuries that they ever existed at all.

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460313 Jul 9, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Jews did not create God.
Of course they created their own god, as did all myth-makers create their own gods and goddesses through the eons of time concerning religion.

Some certain Jews thought they were special and so they needed one god all their own. Previously Jews were polytheistic and believed in multiple gods.

You really need to be more objective concerning religion and as long as you stay PUT in Catholicism, you will subject your self only to what suits your Catholic lusts.

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460314 Jul 9, 2013
The Incredible Book of Vatican Facts and Papal Curiosities … A treasury of Trivia, by Nino Lo Bello~ Published 1998.

The Making of a Saint

The action caused problems for many believers, especially in the Latin countries where devotion to saints is particularly intense. Among the saints removed from the list (along with their usually celebrated feast days) were Saint Paul the Hermit (January 15), Saint Maurus January 15) Saint Prisca (January 18). Saint Martin (January 30) Saint Domitilla (May 12), Saint Boniface of Tarsus (May 14), Saint Venatius (May 18), Saint Pudentiana (May 19), Saints Modestus and Crescentia (June 15), Saints John and Paul (june 26), Saint Alexis (July 17), Saint Symphorosa and her sons (July 18), Saint Margaret of Antioch (July 20), Saint Praxedes (July 21), Saint Christopher (July 25), Saint Susanna (August 11), Saint Eusubius (August 14), Saint Hippolytus (August 22), Saint Sabina (August 29), the Twelve bothers (September 1), Saints Lucia and Geminianus (Sept 16), Saint Eutache and his fellow martyrs (Sept 20),Saint Thecla (September 23), Saints Cyprian and Justina (September 26), Saint Placid and his fellow martyrs (October 5), Saints Tryphus, Bacchus, and Apuleius (October 08),Saint Ursula and her fellow martyrs (October 21), Saints Respicius and Nympha (November 10),Saint Felix of Valois (November 20), Saint Chrysogomus (November 24), Saint Catharine of Alexandria (November 25), Saint Bibiana (December 2), Saint Barbara (December 4), and Saint Anastasia (December 25).
4GVN

Jackson, MO

#460315 Jul 9, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
There is "nothing legitimate" about ANYTHING you ask 4GVN!.....Never has and never will be! Your "bible only question and answer" (3 ring circus game),since the Reformation has been a self editorialized "joke" ----and the "joke" continues to be on YOU, Jack Chick and the rest of you bible only Protestants..... You Sola Scriptura "popes" live in constant confusion and choas,as each of you just keep "spinning around in circles" with one "relative truth" opinion after another--unable to even agree with your other 42,000 "fundie clowns"!! That's why you keep asking "opinionated Protestant "loaded questions" with "made up" personal opinionate answers. Again--read the Catholic Catechism if you want the "AUTHENTICATED TRUTH" of what the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible TRUTHFULLY IS!---I/we as Catholics "all know" that you won't do that, because you would rather live in your contradicting "private disoriented" Protestant world, where your "personal opinion" is the final authority!!
Excuse me, but in the time you have wasted with the parroting you could have answered my question. If you could. Go away HOHO. You are wasting MY time. lol
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#460316 Jul 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I suggest your information is misinformation
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>
The Making of a Saint
Note
In 1969 the Vatican cast a critical eye on more than 40 saints and dropped them from the official catalog, or liturgical calendar. Removed were such well-known saints as Saint Christopher (the patron saint of travelers), Saint Barbara, and Saint Valentine. Some of the saints were dropped because doubts had been raised in the last few centuries that they ever existed at all.
If you continued to read you would have found that they were dropped from the *Universal Calendar*, but not local calendars and NONE were "un-canonized" or declared to have never existed. There's a lot of misinformation floating around out there addressed directly to you and people like you just ready to gobble it up and throw it up.

Was St. Christopher real?

I’m glad you asked this question, because even many priests and religious educators don’t know the correct answer. St. Christopher is still a saint. What happened in the 1960s was that the Church revised its universal calendar, the schedule of celebrations that are observed by the worldwide Church. Some saints’ days were removed, others added. This did not mean that those removed were no longer saints—only that the Church no longer celebrated their feast days everywhere. Individual communities and Catholics are still free to honor these saints and choose them as patrons. In fact, only a tiny percentage of canonized or recognized saints appear in the universal calendar. Many saints of religious orders are honored only within that order, for example.

You can be proud to have a powerful patron, intercessor, and namesake in St. Christopher. We know little about him historically—only that he died about A.D. 251—but that is also true of many early martyrs.
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/was-st...

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#460317 Jul 9, 2013
persnickety wrote:
<quoted text>What about when one has a Topix friend and that friend curses Christ and calls Him *jebus* and someone doesn't do anything , won't say anything unless its *her Jesus* not mine.... Or one mistakes an abortion for adoption then posts lies about a pro life poster who is for adoption? what a bout the lady named madam kindle who supports pre marital sex and contraception who's also named rosesz? Who tells others they are judging but when they tell her, well she has a hissy fit because she doesn't judge....
Knit and Pray

you really want to go there on This forum

You personally attack many people and Use Jesus name as your shield .

You want others to call out people you have a grudge with..taunting a woman mercilessly because yes she had an abortion 30 years ago and you want to hurt her...make her sad over and over fir the past 4 years??

How Christian is that

I AM for abstinent. However I woukd most certainly see women NIT get pregnant than abort.

Our argument over your behavior behaviorism insults does not belong here ..how you told me I was selfish my out my son..50 years ago .

Good thing my Lord I'd forgiving unlike you

I was speaking in general ..mostly about our bickering over which religion GOD loves most .

these nice people have no real interest I'm sure .

But go ahead knit .

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460318 Jul 9, 2013
This is the type of archaic nonsense the hierarchy USES to canonize a supposed saint.
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The Incredible Book of Vatican Facts and Papal Curiosities … A treasury of Trivia, by Nino Lo Bello~ Published 1998.

The Making of a Saint

In spite of this seemingly impossible medical barrier, when the canonizing of Philadelphia’s bishop, John Nepomucene Neumann (1811—1880) came about in June 1977, the nine Roman physicians gave Neumann a unanimous vote on the medical miracles wrought after his death. The miracles approved for beatification were submitted to every possible sort of test to prove their validity; they were cures in 1923 for acute peritonitis and in 1949 for a skull fracture and other severe injuries sustained in an automobile accident. Pope Paul VI declared Neumann as “Blessed” in 1963 because these two cures were unexplained by natural reasons.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#460319 Jul 9, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
215 220
<quoted text>
Why do you not answer my question???
Does the following verses teach that Christ is God??????
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Then, after speaking in many and varied ways through the prophets, "now at last in these days God has spoken to us in His Son":(Heb. 1:1-2).
For He sent His Son, the eternal Word, who enlightens all men, so that He might dwell among men and tell them of the innermost being of God (see John 1:1-18).
Jesus Christ, therefore, the Word made flesh, was sent as "a man to men." He "speaks the words of God" (John 3;34), and completes the work of salvation which His Father gave Him to do (see John 5:36; John 17:4)
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Oxbow:

Reasons why I can't answer you:

First off, using your translation. It is vague, and generalized, perhaps a bit to simplified and popularized.

Secondly, I am not accustomed to answering a "shotgun fallacy".

Thirdly, the scriptures you quote, are like a subtle "strawman".
You are asking me to prove something which is not directly stated, and ask me to interpret something into the true meaning of these scriptures.

Fourth, "cherry-picking" you chop-up the scriptures, and leave off the context within which they are written. Thus, anyone, can interpret them, any way they desire.

Fifth, the way you ask the question, we return to the "ducks quack" issue. You conclude ducks don't quack because it is not written in scripture. Likewise, when you demand a yes or not answer from me, I can say the scriptures you use do not tell me ducks do or don't quack.

Sixth, its just a trick question, a false delemma, in which if I commit one way or the other, you can "prove" otherwise.

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#460320 Jul 9, 2013
Selfish to adopt out my son ...And that 50 years ago women who did not wait were rightfully branded as sinners

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#460321 Jul 9, 2013
persnickety wrote:
<quoted text>When one lets other post about how they degrade Christ and you do nothing, you are degrading Christ too because you will not say to that poster she is wrong. Its not who loves Christ more, its respect and reverence. You have a problem to deal with rose, its horrible to read how you agree with a woman who escorts other women to abort their child and laughing with her on things we consider evil.
~~~

PERSONALLY I don't take the post of June VanDerMark seriously

NO more than I would take an other SELF MADE individual that is drunk on

their own ego...

one CAN ALWAYS TELL A SELF MADE PERSON BY THE SIZE OF THEIR MOUTH

( as an atheist she MUST BELIEVE she invented/created her self)

no insult intended ...just truth

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460322 Jul 9, 2013
So a Catholic goes to members of the hierarchy with a story of praying to a certain saint to intervene at a tragedy, and a loved-one's life was saved by the intervention.

What if it wasn't the supposed god's will that the person live?

If a god knows all and knows what each individual needs, then supposed saints should not be meddling with god's will ... should THEY???

All these middle men and women must confuse the many gods and goddesses in the sky.

Silly nonsensical blather.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#460323 Jul 9, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ironic...I consider their data, but most often never read their discourse...as it affects the interpretation of decision....
Much like the discussion we had early on about H/H2 and HE concerning superconductance and it's properties.
I have absolutely no doubt that my prospect was indisputably correct...and I didn't even have to be there physically.
Is that uncanny or what?
Black Thunder 42

It is effort. If one is unwilling to use their intellect, memory, and will, then they don't have much mind and heart. One must exercise them, and that takes work, and work is maintained by effort.

“Let the Children”

Since: Aug 08

Come To Me

#460325 Jul 9, 2013
persnickety wrote:
<quoted text>When one lets other post about how they degrade Christ and you do nothing, you are degrading Christ too because you will not say to that poster she is wrong. Its not who loves Christ more, its respect and reverence. You have a problem to deal with rose, its horrible to read how you agree with a woman who escorts other women to abort their child and laughing with her on things we consider evil.
I agree with NITHING having to do with abortion . I never have or will.

I am thankful to God I gave my son to a good family and GIDS grace allowed us to find each other ..40 years later ..THAT IS MY MESSAGE ON ABORTION ..it is irreversible ...Sacrifice is what a mother should do.

Have been sharing that testimony fir years on here and with my local CRISIS Centers

But that same woman you hate so badly is sick and you taunt her about pain meds ...And happy she is in pain

How,Christian is that ..what example is that to non believers,on that board

Now please keep all thus garbage on the board where it belongs .

No one wants to read what you write ..truly knit..They don't
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#460326 Jul 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The Incredible Book of Vatican Facts and Papal Curiosities … A treasury of Trivia, by Nino Lo Bello~ Published 1998.
The Making of a Saint
The action caused problems for many believers, especially in the Latin countries where devotion to saints is particularly intense. Among the saints removed from the list (along with their usually celebrated feast days) were Saint Paul the Hermit (January 15), Saint Maurus January 15) Saint Prisca (January 18). Saint Martin (January 30) Saint Domitilla (May 12), Saint Boniface of Tarsus (May 14), Saint Venatius (May 18), Saint Pudentiana (May 19), Saints Modestus and Crescentia (June 15), Saints John and Paul (june 26), Saint Alexis (July 17), Saint Symphorosa and her sons (July 18), Saint Margaret of Antioch (July 20), Saint Praxedes (July 21), Saint Christopher (July 25), Saint Susanna (August 11), Saint Eusubius (August 14), Saint Hippolytus (August 22), Saint Sabina (August 29), the Twelve bothers (September 1), Saints Lucia and Geminianus (Sept 16), Saint Eutache and his fellow martyrs (Sept 20),Saint Thecla (September 23), Saints Cyprian and Justina (September 26), Saint Placid and his fellow martyrs (October 5), Saints Tryphus, Bacchus, and Apuleius (October 08),Saint Ursula and her fellow martyrs (October 21), Saints Respicius and Nympha (November 10),Saint Felix of Valois (November 20), Saint Chrysogomus (November 24), Saint Catharine of Alexandria (November 25), Saint Bibiana (December 2), Saint Barbara (December 4), and Saint Anastasia (December 25).
Removed from the Universal Calendar, NOT the local calendars, and NOT declared no longer saints.

You can keep posting select sections that support your erroneous claims, June, but you're still wrong. And so is your buddy, BM. He's been outed so many times in the past, but as soon as he thinks the coast is clear he sneaks back on hoping to attract new "listeners". You were used and you fell for it.:)

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