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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 600174 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#460283 Jul 9, 2013
Clay wrote:
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So that's what you think it is? Brainwashing? Lol
I say that's impossible. Well, possible for some people. But not me or anybody I know. I'm not Catholic because of any other reason accept my own free will.
I look at the first 50 yrs of Christianity, and I say there HAD to be divine guidance for this religion to survive that long.
I mean, you have a Messiah who was a poor homeless man, supposedly the Son of God, tried and executed. He was betrayed by one of His followers and most abandoned Him at the cross anyway. These guy were poorly educated; rag tag group who was given the responsibility of telling the world about Jesus. All but one was arrested and executed by the end of the first century along with most of their Disciples.
Its crazy. Christianity shouldn't have lasted 50 yrs. And even until 313 AD, 31 of the first 32 Popes were executed. Countless leaders known as Bishops and Priest were killed. On paper, nobody in their right mind would want to be a Christian. Yet, it spread throughout the world??
Clay the thing is the apostles nit counting Paul..we're mire closely related to Messianic Judaism than Catholic

They kept. The good ..holiday laws ..They preached in synagogues and were thought of as a,Jewish sect...until the Jews separated them
http://www.mjaa.org/site/PageServer...

I am glad there are Messianic Jews today.

They will be needed in the end times..But glad they believe in Christ

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#460284 Jul 9, 2013
Pope Benedict Arnold wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for this. It also does not say that the name pope will be compared to Jesus.
~~~

The result of the ignorance the the Roman Catholics in

their blatant rejection of the New Testament is..Not only do they have a

parochial/narrow minded understanding of the word of God that keeps them

ignorant of the benefits that God has given to BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN....

They also have shut them selves away from the prophetic truths of the

Bible concerning these last days and have no knowledge of events that

are now transpiring upon the earth and those that will effect them in

the very near future.

They live in darkness ....have never seen the light of God's truth and

enjoyed His benefits.

They don't know what light is

So like the elephant that is tethered to a rope around it's leg...(that could easily be broken)

They are satisfied captives to their own ignorance...

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460285 Jul 9, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Roman Catholics ARE WANNABE'S.
BUT EVIDENTLY THEY WILL NEVER BE ..... CHRISTIANS..
Why are giving compliments to the the Roman Catholics?

:)

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#460286 Jul 9, 2013
The Truth

Jesus Christ. Fully Human..Fully Divine.

Born to Mary

Walked on this earth preaching and healing..Showing us the ONLY way to the Father was through Him

He died a horrible death on the,Cross..Became full if our Sins,as He hung there..He drank that awful cup JUST FOR US.

He cried out ..full of our Sins..father why hast thou forsaken Me.

Then in the End ..He said IT IS FINISHED..

FINISHED done..NITHING mire needed.

No rituals ..No big buildings..Certainly no KILLING in His name ..

DONE ..OVER ..DEATH CONQUERED WHEN HE ARISE from the dead.

His apostles were to Spread this,Hope of Salvation

Guided by the Holy Spirit

HIS,Church was the body of Believers.

Not the Vatican. Nit a,Crystal Cathedral

People who have a relationship eith the Lord .

Who have taken Jesus at His word ..the Way is through Him ..only .

We repent our sins and commit to Him..He Washes us in His precious blood .

He gave one prayer ..the Our Father

Two commandments

LOVE God ..love your neighbor ...all if them

And most Especially LOVE ONE ANOTHER....y e t here we,are.

Believers in Him bickering over passages..churches..statues..

Over centuries actually torturing people who did nit believe the same way as EACH OTHER.

SHAME ON US..

We commemorate THE Last Supper differently ...But we do it.But this is,Not necessary to salvation ..

We are baptized in obedience ..But That does not save

But belief in His precious saving BLOOD by Faith t through the gift if Grace .

FREE bought and paid for...by Him ONLY HIM .WASHED CLEAN BY HIM

Accepting that gift and repenting. FOLLOWING HIM

How simple if we are embued by the Spirit

And foolish to non believers

We are followers of God's Holy and Perfect Son!!!!

I no we need to act like it in word and deed ..

So as NOT TO BE STUMBLING BLOCKS to any who are being led by the Spirit.

If the Spirit calls a person and he gets answer s from the parish priest..it Dr Charles Stanley on tv.

What is it to us..The Spirit leads ..We follow ..

The fruits of OUR BELIEF are on this thread for ALL TO SEE..

DOES THIS THREAD ..and some of the words we sling ...Make God happy

ARE WE SAYING

FOLLOW HIM all of you who are heavy laden .

OR ARE WE SAYING follow ME.....I'M RIGHT NOT HIM ..

I plead guilt in some of my arguments ..The past is over...mistakes were made in centuries long gone .

What do we do to CALL PEOPLE TO JESUS TODAY

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460287 Jul 9, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
So that's what you think it is? Brainwashing? Lol
I say that's impossible. Well, possible for some people. But not me or anybody I know. I'm not Catholic because of any other reason accept my own free will.
Well now ... if that is true, you better hope that if god exists, he is also Catholic ... because if he favors Jews, or Muslims, or Protestants, as they say is true ... well ... the end result for you will be a disaster.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460288 Jul 9, 2013
Jack Chick wrote:
How about everyone's favorite Catholic saint...
Saint Christopher. Remember that one?
Roman Catholics have such short attention spans.
The hierarchy gave about forty of those old saints the axe by saying they never existed in the first place.

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460289 Jul 9, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya I don't lie sis.
I do. And as one of my neighbors says when he wants to be believed ... "And I am serious!"

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#460290 Jul 9, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
The Truth
Jesus Christ. Fully Human..Fully Divine.
Born to Mary
Walked on this earth preaching and healing..Showing us the ONLY way to the Father was through Him
He died a horrible death on the,Cross..Became full if our Sins,as He hung there..He drank that awful cup JUST FOR US.
He cried out ..full of our Sins..father why hast thou forsaken Me.
Then in the End ..He said IT IS FINISHED..
FINISHED done..NITHING mire needed.
No rituals ..No big buildings..Certainly no KILLING in His name ..
DONE ..OVER ..DEATH CONQUERED WHEN HE ARISE from the dead.
His apostles were to Spread this,Hope of Salvation
Guided by the Holy Spirit
HIS,Church was the body of Believers.
Not the Vatican. Nit a,Crystal Cathedral
People who have a relationship eith the Lord .
Who have taken Jesus at His word ..the Way is through Him ..only .
We repent our sins and commit to Him..He Washes us in His precious blood .
He gave one prayer ..the Our Father
Two commandments
LOVE God ..love your neighbor ...all if them
And most Especially LOVE ONE ANOTHER....y e t here we,are.
Believers in Him bickering over passages..churches..statues..
Over centuries actually torturing people who did nit believe the same way as EACH OTHER.
SHAME ON US..
We commemorate THE Last Supper differently ...But we do it.But this is,Not necessary to salvation ..
We are baptized in obedience ..But That does not save
But belief in His precious saving BLOOD by Faith t through the gift if Grace .
FREE bought and paid for...by Him ONLY HIM .WASHED CLEAN BY HIM
Accepting that gift and repenting. FOLLOWING HIM
How simple if we are embued by the Spirit
And foolish to non believers
We are followers of God's Holy and Perfect Son!!!!
I no we need to act like it in word and deed ..
So as NOT TO BE STUMBLING BLOCKS to any who are being led by the Spirit.
If the Spirit calls a person and he gets answer s from the parish priest..it Dr Charles Stanley on tv.
What is it to us..The Spirit leads ..We follow ..
The fruits of OUR BELIEF are on this thread for ALL TO SEE..
DOES THIS THREAD ..and some of the words we sling ...Make God happy
ARE WE SAYING
FOLLOW HIM all of you who are heavy laden .
OR ARE WE SAYING follow ME.....I'M RIGHT NOT HIM ..
I plead guilt in some of my arguments ..The past is over...mistakes were made in centuries long gone .
What do we do to CALL PEOPLE TO JESUS TODAY?
~~~

AMEN

YOU WROTE...

What do we do to CALL PEOPLE TO JESUS TODAY...

~~~

OUR WORK IS THE SAME TODAY AS IT WAS WHEN JESUS SPOKE IT FORTH

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

He said..when ask...

Joh 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?


Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them..

-->This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460291 Jul 9, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Where does Christ instruct us to create a written Bible to dictate His Ministry?
I suggest you ask him. You'll find him living in your imagination and his image will always give you the answers that you crave.

That's how all religious games unfold.

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460292 Jul 9, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I tried a number of times to explain.People change their mind here as seldom as Jed Clampett changes his underwear
They have to be willing and able to unhook their selves from that promise of salvation ... and for most it's impossible ... as the hook has sunk in too deep to be removed without the collapse of total emotions.

For instance, if someone took away KayMarie's bible, so that KayMarie could not preach at others, KayMarie would probably have a nervous breakdown. And I am serious.

For those who believe they are called by a god to preach ... preaching has become the most important reason to live.
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#460293 Jul 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The hierarchy gave about forty of those old saints the axe by saying they never existed in the first place.
"It is a source of great frustration and annoyance to me to hear people inaccurately say (often in reference to Saint Christopher) "After Vatican II they got rid of a whole bunch of saints that were just myths!" or "They decanonized Saints Christopher & Philomena!"

A lot of people "knowingly" repeat this disinformation, having heard it or been taught it in a vaiety of places.(The pastor at my Catholic grade school explained Saint Chrisopher was "just a legend" to us as school children. I suspect he will be VERY suprised one day.)

Suprisingly, an article on wikipedia on Saint Valentine seemed to get the matter right:

Quote:
In the 1969 revision of the Roman Catholic Calendar of Saints, the feastday of Saint Valentine on 14 February was removed from the General Roman Calendar and relegated to particular (local or even national) calendars for the following reason: "Though the memorial of Saint Valentine is ancient, it is left to particular calendars, since, apart from his name, nothing is known of Saint Valentine except that he was buried on the Via Flaminia on 14 February." (Calendarium Romanum ex Decreto Sacrosancti Ścumenici Concilii Vaticani II Instauratum Auctoritate Pauli PP. VI Promulgatum (Typis Polyglottis Vaticanis, MCMLXIX), p. 117 )

I generally like to point out that the revisions made certain feasts optional, but no such "decanonization" took place."
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php...
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#460295 Jul 9, 2013
Is St. Christopher still a saint?

St. Christopher is still recognized as a saint, though his feast day no longer appears on the Church’s universal liturgical calendar. He was one of the early martyrs about whom not much is known. His name means "Christ-bearer"
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/is-st-...
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#460296 Jul 9, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Unless you know of a dimension below the 1st, there is no possibility of it existing...except in the mind of the one who would perceive it...and that would be an "abstract" rather than a reality for the individual, and even less so for the majority.
Actuality sucks ...doesn't it?
Black Thunder 42

I can agree with you to a certain degree. But find your use of the word "abstract" a bit hard to deal with. But your statement is a seed for various reconsiderations, reflection and exegesis.

I suppose one could easily trace "universals" back to Plato and Aristotle, but it becomes more apparent where one stands and views the spectrum of illumination and abstraction.

It would seem to me, your post is a bit Thomistic and Platonic so I tend to believe both illumination and abstraction are possible, without denying "actuality".
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#460297 Jul 9, 2013
Did the Church declare that St. Christopher is a myth?

First of all, it's not true. The Church never issued any kind of decree saying that Christopher never existed. Furthermore, competent hagiographers, including Protestant ones, tell us that there was a Christopher, but we just don't know as much about him as some of the legends that grew up around him would suggest.

The confusion over Christopher's status comes from the 1969 reform of the Roman Calendar. This reform had been mandated by Vatican II in Sacrosanctum Concilium, its constitution on the liturgy. Because the Roman Calendar was getting crowded, especially with saints with local rather than universal followings, the Council declared: "Lest the feasts of the saints take precedence over the feasts commemorating the very mysteries of salvation, many of them should be left to be celebrated by a particular Church or nation or religious family; those only should be extended to the universal Church that commemorate saints of truly universal significance" (SC 111).
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/did-th...

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460298 Jul 9, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
NO THAT IS NOT TRUE..
WHEN JESUS SAID "IT IS FINISHED" BOWED HIS HEAD AND DIED...
Catholics "approved" of all that nonsense in the new testament or it would not exist.

Catholics controlled Christianity until the 16th century when Luther and his band of thugs broke the Catholic strong-hold over the Christian religion. Whatever was in that bible was ordained not by a god, but by the popes in power.

When Jerome translated the bible into Vulgate Latin, it was at the "approval" of pope Damasus. Make no mistake about that issue. Jerome was commissioned by Damasus to translate the bible, and Damasus hovered over Jerome's every word to make sure he approved OF the words.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#460299 Jul 9, 2013
who="Black Thunder 42"
You folks needs ta jist quit worry'n 'bout my goddam underwears, an when I might take the notion ta wash 'em!
You flatlanders ain't got no clue about the wherewithall 'bout any such undertak'ns at tall!
Why the hell don't ya jist mind yer own goddam business!
Ever damn time ya starts ta talk'n any such nonsense, is cuz ya think it's high time us hill folks needs a bath...Does you got some kind o' "special" sort o' smell what god give ya?

**********
Your language gives you away as quickly as the smell of your underwear. A REAL old-time West Virginian speaks ENGLISH...a bit strangely, perhaps, but without the 'cussin'.

You musta come from New Yawk...

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460300 Jul 9, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
With a "ridiculous statement" such as this your intelligence, wisdom and rationale has reached the depths of "new lows"!......... The Catholic Church doesn't teach this nor does any Catholic believe this and "YOU know it"!!!
If the popes didn't believe that Catholics were the only ones to be saved, why would they have forced others to become Catholic???

You really don't question their motives ... do you? They wanted to rule the people of the world and they used their religion as a supposed "reason."
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

Athanasian Creed
1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith

Human Being

Sunset, LA

#460301 Jul 9, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? I don't think that is accurate at all.
I have been in error several times in the last 30 + years in my research. I have accepted it it and regrouped my thinking and continued on.
I do not believe that "religionists" are capable of that attribute.
Black Thunder 42

Thinking people resolve errors. Unthinking people continue in error for the sake of self-justification. And that in essence is blind faith, or faith without reason.

Religionists must have faith and reason in order to function. If they don't, then they fail to resolve living in the world. But one does not have to be a religionist, people apparently would rather be led, than stand up for what is right(at this time in history). Whether their leaders, or mob-democracies are right or wrong.

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460302 Jul 9, 2013
Pope Benedict Arnold wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for this. It also does not say that the name pope will be compared to Jesus.
Popes compared their selves to Jehovah ... the Jewish Master ... the one and only god that favored the Jews.

Silly stuff in deed!

:)

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#460303 Jul 9, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I like Teutonic and Celtic mythology.
I also like the Mythology of Genesis and the Sumerian Myths they came from.
I do not like Christian Mythology but do like the Gospels of Mark and Thomas.
The ancient Jewish rituals, esp. Yom Kippur, I find fascinating from a psycho-social perspective.
Thanks for your response.

Do you base any mythology on the idea that it was or is true in the sense of absolute truth?

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