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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665515 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Human Being

Kinder, LA

#460439 Jul 9, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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This is not a trick question nor a false dilemma:Why do you not answer my question???
This is not a trick question nor a false dilemma: Does the following verses teach that Christ is God??????
So...your sixth reason hold not also water...
The reason you will not answer my questions is that you can see it will reveal the truth...and that you cannot accept...
Oxbow:

You asked and answered your own question for me.

You fill up the room, and leave to space.

Your perceived truth, is a truth(especially for you), but not The Truth.

I cannot accept your invitation when your room is full, and no place for me to stand or sit.
ReginaM

Bloomfield, NJ

#460440 Jul 9, 2013
Foolish child, you really shouldn't have wasted your time. But that's okay, everything is all better now. Go look for yourself! I have friends in high places!! You'll never learn, will you? lolol........
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#460441 Jul 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Because to be a died in the wool Christian is to believe that most of the "souls" in the world will go to hell ... while precious, special YOU will be rewarded with salvation and eternal bliss.
How many times do you need that explanation to understand that is WHY I never became a member of a Christian church of ANY flavor whatsoever?
The belief itself is horrible. If you don't see that, it's because you don't want to see it.
June:

Your view of Christianity is distorted(most likely by bad teachers, bad teaching, bad example, and observations, which impressed upon your thinking) and making your present conclusions inaccurate at best, and contrary to Christianity at worst.

You basically rest in one of three conclusions. Either everyone goes to heaven, everyone goes to hell, everyone ceases to exist. So you have become the final Judge, rather than allowing God to be final Judge(although you leave this loophole in most of your statements as you say, "if God exists....then").

And that loophole is your undoing in most cases. Because you admit the possibility of God, even though you declare yourself to be the experienced and impartial final Judge.

I may not see well. But just keep telling me I am wrong, will not change my eyesight. I am a bit to experienced to fall easily to a lie told often enough will make me believe its the truth.

Do you see, or don't you want to see?(I can ask the same question)
Jesus asked the blind man....

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#460442 Jul 9, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Preston:
Well, I didn't want to preach to you.
But since you question me with a "why give a deeper explanation", you found me out.
I will explain. Its DNA!
The roots, and stem and branch have the same physical DNA. No grafting (surrogacy) going on there. Jesus' DNA came on the same stem and rod, through Mary his mother.
We are grafted onto Jesus, and that is a sort of surrogacy of the Gentile onto the Jew. But once grafted we become one. And some produce much fruit, and some none. Those with none will be chopped off and used for firewood.
Jesus word goes out and accomplishes what He wills, it is not our own will and efforts which rains down and returns empty. A person may struggle all their life in doing the will of God, and it may not be seen in their lifetime on earth, but in eternity it may bear the most savored fruit of the Spirit....
that is what happens when ignorance comes into play in the form of Philisophy.

first, last and foremost.

the Bible says that the [Will} of God is to believe on Him who was sent. lifes struggles doesnt enter into our believing that God sent Him. so if the struggle(I guess like you do)doesn't produce any fruit, God isn't to Blame.

Of course, Jesse and his son David would bear the same DNA, that is common sense, however with a man child, he receives sightly less from the father than he receives from the female. in fertilization, one cell is prodiced which has both partners in each of its pairs, one from the mother and one from the father. however since God has no chromosomes, he does not contribute the same amount of nucleic DNA.

the bottom line is this, to think or try to prove that Jesus has the exact same DNA as David is ludicrous to say the least, it therefore is impossible because the Y chromosome is missing. no doubt if we had a sample of His Blood and hers we could make a match linking him to her, but to link him with God the father is impossible sin e there is only the mitochonria from her and not God.lol
cult expert

Naperville, IL

#460443 Jul 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If the god existed and was decent of character, suffering of all forms of life would not be an issue, as he would have protected ALL animals from having to suffer at ALL cost to his self!
That would be something worth the investment of worship!
If your god exists he is very very ill indeed and has no right to preach that others should strive to be perfect.
Ridiculous blather.
Religion is human-created bunk.
I agree june,Religion was created by wandering desert nomads for control of dim witted folks.People need a story to believe even if it makes no sence.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#460444 Jul 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If the god existed and was decent of character, suffering of all forms of life would not be an issue, as he would have protected ALL animals from having to suffer at ALL cost to his self!
That would be something worth the investment of worship!
If your god exists he is very very ill indeed and has no right to preach that others should strive to be perfect.
Ridiculous blather.
Religion is human-created bunk.
June:

You make suffering your prime issue(complaint) with God.

If your prime issue is to relieve suffering, then you missed His Message.

In a battle between light and dark, good and evil, God and Godlessness, there is suffering and casualties.

In a sense you are making suffering your god, which is an idol between you and God. Although it is easier to accept the good from God, we often reject the hard time of our own struggle with darkness, evil, and godlessness.

You accept the carrot, and reject the stick.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460445 Jul 9, 2013
chuck wrote:
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there would not be so many people hooked on drugs of all sorts.
- Just like you, they don't take responsibility for their own choices.
Actually I DO take responsibility for my own actions. I don't blame a fictitious devil for leading me astray, nor do I pat myself on the back that a god is leading me on a righteous path.

I believe the whole of religious mythology is really very silly.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460446 Jul 9, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June:
You make suffering your prime issue
I believe everyone should make suffering a prime issue within the theologies of religion. If they did there would BE no religion, because everybody would say that only an inept creator would create such a mess and want to take credit FOR the mess.

If you were a creator would you be pleased with people worshipping you and thanking you on a daily basis for allowing little babies to suffer???

You have to be sick to believe such nonsense.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#460447 Jul 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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In many countries where religion rules supreme abortion is not legal.
Men of the hierarchy of the Catholic church and men of the Muslim mosques (for instance) agree that women are expendable compared to religious dogma.
I suggest religion is expendable.
I agree given the choice between the two, religion should be outlawed world wide, I see more harm than good coming from it,lets take the train wreck in Canada the break was tampered with, why didn't god intervene and stop the person who tampered with the train? and why didn't he stop the plane in san Francisco from crashing? all these type things happen on a daily basis around the world, and we're suppose to believe we have a loving god watching over us, for what? to see what new stupidity we can get ourselves into on a daily basis? obviously he does nothing to help, and this joke about the saint hood for the two popes we are suppose to believe they committed miracles to gain saint hood and yet god sits in his chair an does nothing? what's wrong with this picture.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460448 Jul 9, 2013
cult expert wrote:
<quoted text> I agree june,Religion was created by wandering desert nomads for control of dim witted folks.People need a story to believe even if it makes no sence.
If Christians all believed that THEY were going to hell for eternity there would BE no Christianity. They would pack their bags and join up with the modern Pagans who believe the goddess loves everybody.

In fact many Christians ARE leaving Christianity to become Pagans ... and who could blame them? After all everybody wants to be loved and that is what modern Paganism offers. Nobody is left out of the picture. Isn't that "sweet?"

:)

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460449 Jul 9, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June:
Your view of Christianity is distorted
Now don't lie! You know that Christians believe in a heaven and a hell, and you KNOW you believe that YOU will go to heaven.

THAT is Christianity from the get-go, so I suggest you don't try to make it over in YOUR image.

It's not nice to contradict your popes.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460450 Jul 9, 2013
So now this begs the question, who will be going to hell?

Religion gets sillier all the time.
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Heaven for atheists? Pope sparks debate

“I gather from this statement that his view of the world's religious and philosophical diversity is expanding,” Speckhardt said.“While humanists have been saying for years that one can be good without a god, hearing this from the leader of the Catholic Church is quite heartening."

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/23/heav...

Since: Nov 08

usa

#460451 Jul 9, 2013
dr drue wrote:
<quoted text>You're correct Miss Clever.Life after death was invented by the egyptians.They would put food and guards in the grave with the dead for the after life.Ya see June we were created by an alien race to mine minerals in the mines in africa.They have found mines sixty thousand years old in africa thet were mined back then for gold.The first human that was created was a neanderthal but they were too stupid to figure out complex problems that would occur so they tweeked their DNA and bingo bango modern man was born.No God floating around for seven days like the flawed bible say just alien nohow.The ancient sumerians wrote about it thousands of years before the bible.Most of the storys in the bible are rehashed storys from the sumerians.FYI.I hope that helps miss Clever.
I'll bet you watch the history channel-2 don't you? I watch it myself and I saw the shows that stated the very same thing you just did, and the best part about what you said can be corroborated with actual artifacts and multiple sources of information to prove it to be factual.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460452 Jul 9, 2013
Religion become more and more a joke when the popes keep telling different stories about what should stem from the same religion.
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Pope: Hell Is a Real Place Where Sinners Burn in Everlasting Fire

Addressing a parish gathering in a northern suburb of Rome, Pope Benedict XVI said that in the modern world many people, including some believers, had forgotten that if they failed to "admit blame and promise to sin no more," they risked "eternal damnation — the Inferno."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/03/28/pope-...

Since: Nov 08

usa

#460453 Jul 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I don't make "friends" on a forum. That way I don't feel beholden to personalities and am free to write what feels comfortable at all times to my own conscience.
you mean I'm not your friend :( sniffle sniffle) just because we are friends doesn't mean that you have to hold back on your thoughts or worry about offending me, what I would find offensive is lying to me about your true thoughts.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460454 Jul 9, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>I agree given the choice between the two, religion should be outlawed world wide,
To out-law religion makes devout believers want it all that much more.

People won't leave religion unless they believe it has nothing more to offer them. That is what happened in my case. When it made no more sense to me, I left it behind and carried on without it.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460455 Jul 9, 2013
My guess is, there is nothing so thrilling to a Christian as to go into a country where their religion is illegal and preach under-cover. It's that sense of martyrdom and being needed by a god to preach a gospel that turns emotions on HIGH.

It's just too bad that these nitwits take their children into such situations, as the children didn't do anything to deserve torture and death at the hands of other irate radical religionists.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460456 Jul 9, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>you mean I'm not your friend :( sniffle sniffle) just because we are friends doesn't mean that you have to hold back on your thoughts or worry about offending me, what I would find offensive is lying to me about your true thoughts.
You won't ever catch me lying about my true thoughts, but still you might catch me lying. When I repeat what I believe is truth from others, I could be lying and not even know I am lying.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460457 Jul 9, 2013
OH OH!
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Not so fast: Vatican says Pope Francis got it wrong, atheists do go to hell

After the Vatican issued its “explanatory note,” noted British scientist and atheist Richard Dawkins wrote on Twitter:“Atheists go to heaven? Nope. Sorry world, infallible pope got it wrong. Vatican steps in with alacrity.”

And author Neal Donald Walsch, who wrote “Conversations With God,” said to UPI that “it was regrettable that the hidden hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church chose to officially retract the recent statement on eternal damnation bravely made by its new leader, Pope Francis.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/...
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Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460458 Jul 9, 2013
Years ago if one of the followers contradicted a pope, that unfortunate one would find his self burning at a stake or thrown into a dungeon.

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