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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 690443 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#459900 Jul 8, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>it is not a belief that you are searching for.
in this verse, we find that the Author is given [CONFIRMATION] THAT JESUS IS THE MESSIAH[CHRIST].
the Author is not saying that Jesus is NOT God. stupid.
If there is any savior it is "you" silly. That is the whole of all teachings for many thousands of years, excepting your "new age"(abrahamic) deviations from earlier teachings.
Your book is fallicious. You need to ask "WHY".
The absurd teachings have led to atrocities for well over a millennia now.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#459901 Jul 8, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>If you could deflate my beliefs I'd write you a check for 100 grand. Yes,I am worth that and more thanks to my deceased father and mother. Not trying to brag but if you could even remotely deflate my belief in God I promise you I'd send you a check for 100 grand.
I really don't wish to. You need to understand what I wrote here. I don't need nor want your money. I would rather you know exactly where you fit in the ALL...not that it is any agenda-just just.

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#459902 Jul 8, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>it is not a belief that you are searching for.
in this verse, we find that the Author is given [CONFIRMATION] THAT JESUS IS THE MESSIAH[CHRIST].
the Author is not saying that Jesus is NOT God. stupid.
Christos, anointed, i.e. the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus:--Christ.

Christ, being the Messiah, does not change the message in that verse...that Christ is not God...but is the Son of God...

As noted: But these are written, that ye might believe that the Messiah, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.


“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#459903 Jul 8, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah. Nimrod was the great grandson of Cain who's father was literally Satan and he was the founder of many false religions. Certain pagan practices have been able to creep into the "CHURCH" such as Easter eggs, and bunny rabbits etc. When they tried to build the tower of Babel ( means confusion),Babylon was the world headquarters for every false religion known to man. However there is an ELECT that remains true to The Lord of Hosts that has NOT bowed the knee to Baal and pagan practices.
Well, You have provided at least two untruthful posits here. It is because of your religion's teachings, and I can understand that.
perhaps you should really look into where your patriarch "Abrum" came from, who his family was, who "he was" and who his mentor in "Salem was"....Who Moses was, the actual life story of him(not what your bible relates)...who Solomon was and "what" he was....who Sheba was and "what" she was. Who and what Judah was, and who and what "Israel" was-their connections with the Sumerian/Indian/Egyptian empires and the associated timelines. That would give you a start to unravel the truth and actuality of what you have been taught.
It would be best if you discover this on your own. I could tell you, but it will only cause dissent.
Jesus said...seek and you will find. I sought and I found. Pay particular attention to all the "actual" words of what he said. The best are found in "Thomas".
I have no intent to mislead...only to help you discover "actuality" and understanding.
truth

Bassendean, Australia

#459904 Jul 8, 2013
beautifull light yellow as gold..yep i see face too..
see calice kalez ihs ihc ako me volis..see
jesus is love..

'kad sklopis svoje umorne oci
ti ces viditi
kad sklopis svoje uplakene oci
ti ces viditi
jer on je snaga
kad sklopis svoje ruke
ti ces znati
jer on je snaga
da molitva pacenika nije uzalud
i ti ces znati
da njegova snaga
veca od sve snage cijelog svijeta
pohrani je u srce svoje
kad vidis uplakane oci
i sklopljene ruke moje..''
nk
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#459905 Jul 8, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>How many times to you have to be told...It was NOT catholic as in your catholic church of today. It was catholic meaning UNIVERSAL as in ONE HOLY UNIVERSAL(catholic)CHURCH...Yo ur church began in 1054.....
And how many times do YOU have to be told---you do not know what you are talking about Seraphima! Try reading TRUE Church History instead of the same old Orthodox "fictitious" history books that have been manipulated! The vast majority of Apologistic Historian authors and writers completely "debunk" what you claim to be true:

The early Church was called BOTH "Orthodox" and "Catholic." St. Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of the Apostles, calls the Church by both these names as early as A.D. 107. The word “Orthodox” in Greek is “orthódoxos” meaning “right in religion“, or “straight teaching”; and the word “Catholic” is “katholikós” meaning “general” and/or “kathól(ou)” meaning “universally”. >>>>>

Also, the word “katholikos” literally means “the whole in every part.” It is commonly translated “universal.”

Here is what Ignatius says:

"You must all follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the presbytery as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church
without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop, or by one whom he appoints. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is THE CATHOLIC CHURCH." (Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaeans)

Ignatius’ point is that the TRUE Church (the CATHOLIC Church –the Church as it is known in all parts of the world) is found locally with the bishop, as opposed to Gnostic cults and other false sects which claimed to be the true Church. Ergo, here as early as A.D. 107, the Church was already known as “the Catholic Church.” and not the Orthodox Church. It would have been known by that name while the Apostle John was still alive, since he died only about 7 years earlier than the time when Ignatius is writing. In 1054AD the Orthodox Church, officially separated and split from the Catholic Church, the Church that Jesus Christ initiated in Matthew 16:13-21.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#459906 Jul 8, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
And how many times do YOU have to be told---you do not know what you are talking about Seraphima! Try reading TRUE Church History instead of the same old Orthodox "fictitious" history books that have been manipulated! The vast majority of Apologistic Historian authors and writers completely "debunk" what you claim to be true:
The early Church was called BOTH "Orthodox" and "Catholic." St. Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of the Apostles, calls the Church by both these names as early as A.D. 107. The word “Orthodox” in Greek is “orthódoxos” meaning “right in religion“, or “straight teaching”; and the word “Catholic” is “katholikós” meaning “general” and/or “kathól(ou)” meaning “universally”. >>>>>
Also, the word “katholikos” literally means “the whole in every part.” It is commonly translated “universal.”
Here is what Ignatius says:
"You must all follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the presbytery as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church
without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop, or by one whom he appoints. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is THE CATHOLIC CHURCH." (Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaeans)
Ignatius’ point is that the TRUE Church (the CATHOLIC Church –the Church as it is known in all parts of the world) is found locally with the bishop, as opposed to Gnostic cults and other false sects which claimed to be the true Church. Ergo, here as early as A.D. 107, the Church was already known as “the Catholic Church.” and not the Orthodox Church. It would have been known by that name while the Apostle John was still alive, since he died only about 7 years earlier than the time when Ignatius is writing. In 1054AD the Orthodox Church, officially separated and split from the Catholic Church, the Church that Jesus Christ initiated in Matthew 16:13-21.
REALLY!
You should hear what Pagans called your murderous organization!
I doubt there are reliable translations for it anymore!
truth

Bassendean, Australia

#459907 Jul 8, 2013
last night is been dark
yes
when everybody turn off light

one light is been there
so beautiful light
i see he find my heart
then i see is start move
then light is been remove
but still light
i see room where he stay
as in old time
I see face
i see he move around
he listen my cry
and my pray
he come in my heart
i see just like that light
beautiful golden light
i see beautiful face
when nobody see
because dark
when everybody turn off light
one light still exist
its going toward heart.

nk
byyyyyyy
When you see my tears
its not in vain
when you see my hand on prayers
its not in vain
he art every heart
he touch my heart
light to light..

nkh

by
truth

Bassendean, Australia

#459908 Jul 8, 2013
They will tell you
there and there there and there
thousand unworthy story too
i told you
he is not far away
he touch my heart
light come to light..

O don't be afraid
what they going tell about you
thousand story every day
but only one place is
not far away
he touch my heart
light come to light..
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#459909 Jul 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would I believe your theology and not believe the theology of the Hindus that came long before Christianity?
WHY???
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
“Vishnu: Hinduism’s Blue-Skinned Savior” at the Brooklyn Museum, though it takes a while to radiate its full devotional glow over a show that is gratifyingly large but also dauntingly crowded with ideas and information.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/08/arts/design...
No one is asking you to believe "anything" that you already are "refusing to believe"! Your choice June!! Again--I ask you!! "Why are you wasting your time",(on this forum)-- as your quoting (atheist friend) Isaac Asimov said!----- Is it to vent your anger? Is it to attack to faith of others? Is it in an "ongoing" attempt to (convince yourself) what you believe or better yet (don't believe)? The basis of atheism, agnosticism and even bible only Protestantism is to "rip" over 2000 years of the TRUTH of the Catholic faith, the Catholic Church and the personal faith in Jesus Christ of its believers.----The fact is that you would NEVER find a Catholic searching for a Protestant (topix site) or a atheists/agnostic forum to come on and attack, condemn or "rip" what they believe. WHY??---- WE DON'T NEED TO Because I/we as Catholics have been "grounded and secured" for over 2000 years in the Fullness of the Faith and the Fullness of the TRUTH in Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church.......The fact is that Atheists, agnostics and bible only Protestants, cannot exist on their own beliefs (or unbeliefs) and their own "opinionated doctrines" without attacking our Catholic Faith and the Catholic Church!!! This has been proven, over and over and over again--on this forum---and you June--are no exception!!!
truth

Bassendean, Australia

#459910 Jul 8, 2013
he not asked money
he not asked
for kiss hand
or any bow down
i see light
i see face
beautiful face
he touch my heart
light come to light..
when you see
my tears in my eyes
its not in vain
when you see my hand on prayers
its not in vain
he not asked
for bow down
he touch my heart
light come to light..

nkh

by

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#459911 Jul 8, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
REALLY!
You should hear what Pagans called your murderous organization!
I doubt there are reliable translations for it anymore!
Do you remember how "Moses" came down from the Mt. and some tablets were broken and lost? Do you know what was on those broken tablets? I do. Your religion and it's atrocities will pay dearly for it too.
It will cost nearly every one of your subjugates the opportunity to obtain peace in it's soul. Your religion has negated the only means of mankind to find that peace...and that episode foretold it all....and the advent of christianity(catholicism) sealed that prophesy, and precluded the atrocity and abomination to come....and it has.
Moses tried to condense what was once 42 questions of passage into 10 commandments to live by for his people(and he miserably failed). That is why he was denied "passage" into the new land of prosperity and interaction with the world cultures of trade and information and progress.
truth

Bassendean, Australia

#459912 Jul 8, 2013
They will tell you
thousand story
as thousands one night
where there there and there
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o
what a about
he not asked any bow down
he not asked for kiss of hand
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo

he not show any table of any commadment
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo
he told you
only one command is love
when you see my tears
its not in vain
when you see my hand in prayers
its not in vain
someone touch my heart
light come to light..
nkh

by

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#459913 Jul 8, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, You have provided at least two untruthful posits here. It is because of your religion's teachings, and I can understand that.
perhaps you should really look into where your patriarch "Abrum" came from, who his family was, who "he was" and who his mentor in "Salem was"....Who Moses was, the actual life story of him(not what your bible relates)...who Solomon was and "what" he was....who Sheba was and "what" she was. Who and what Judah was, and who and what "Israel" was-their connections with the Sumerian/Indian/Egyptian empires and the associated timelines. That would give you a start to unravel the truth and actuality of what you have been taught.
It would be best if you discover this on your own. I could tell you, but it will only cause dissent.
Jesus said...seek and you will find. I sought and I found. Pay particular attention to all the "actual" words of what he said. The best are found in "Thomas".
I have no intent to mislead...only to help you discover "actuality" and understanding.
My friend, NIMROD was the starter of these many so called religions,those that you say pre-dates the religion of the God of Israel. There is much written of Nimrod by ancient writers and Josephus wrote"Nimrod persuadd mankind not to prscribe their happiness to God but to think that his own effort was the source of it. And he soon changed things into a tyranny,thinking there was no other way to wean men from the reverence of God.

So we see in Nimrod Satan's first attempt to raise up a human universal ruler of men. Since then we have seen many other attempts such as Nebuchadnezzar,Alex the Great,Napoleon and in the end times of this earth age, Satan himself will present as a supernatural human,in the personal form of Anti-Christ.

Nimrod was so mighty in the eyes of the people of earth that there was a Semitic proverb that took it's origin or belief that Yahovah was not known in Babylon. In the Hebrew text the manuscripts records...IN DEFIANCE OF GOD.

Genesis 10:10 lists Nimrods kingdoms and Babel is listed. Babel in the Hebrew tongue is BAB-ILI and it comes from the root word #1101 and it means confusion. Real confusion comes anytime man tries to bypass Gods word and substitute his own meanings to things which contradict Gods original text,the Word of God. The word of God is the plan of God which covers in detail this entire earth age.It instructs us in exactly how things are gonna happen.

This is why Revelation 17:5 addresses..MYSTERY,BABYLON THE GREAT,MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. This Babylon is not a city but a condition of confusion that exists on the whole earth. The system or religious order of the people is what causes the confusion. Some people think their salvation lies in knowledge and science or whatever idea or belief they can conceive.This type of confusion is being absorbed into the minds of most people today because they either disbelieve Gods word or they don't understand Gods word. People are trusting in the doctrines and traditions of men and so many are blindly accepting the things of Satan.

We are reliving the days of Nimrod and its going to get worse.
truth

Bassendean, Australia

#459914 Jul 8, 2013
i make clear to you
your law is not my law
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Why Jesus come?..love.. fulfill law.

O don't be afraid
what they going tell about
thousand story every day
only one place is
not far away
someone touch my heart
light come to light
beautiful golden light..

nkh

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#459915 Jul 8, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>My friend, NIMROD was the starter of these many so called religions,those that you say pre-dates the religion of the God of Israel. There is much written of Nimrod by ancient writers and Josephus wrote"Nimrod persuadd mankind not to prscribe their happiness to God but to think that his own effort was the source of it. And he soon changed things into a tyranny,thinking there was no other way to wean men from the reverence of God.
So we see in Nimrod Satan's first attempt to raise up a human universal ruler of men. Since then we have seen many other attempts such as Nebuchadnezzar,Alex the Great,Napoleon and in the end times of this earth age, Satan himself will present as a supernatural human,in the personal form of Anti-Christ.
Nimrod was so mighty in the eyes of the people of earth that there was a Semitic proverb that took it's origin or belief that Yahovah was not known in Babylon. In the Hebrew text the manuscripts records...IN DEFIANCE OF GOD.
Genesis 10:10 lists Nimrods kingdoms and Babel is listed. Babel in the Hebrew tongue is BAB-ILI and it comes from the root word #1101 and it means confusion. Real confusion comes anytime man tries to bypass Gods word and substitute his own meanings to things which contradict Gods original text,the Word of God. The word of God is the plan of God which covers in detail this entire earth age.It instructs us in exactly how things are gonna happen.
This is why Revelation 17:5 addresses..MYSTERY,BABYLON THE GREAT,MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. This Babylon is not a city but a condition of confusion that exists on the whole earth. The system or religious order of the people is what causes the confusion. Some people think their salvation lies in knowledge and science or whatever idea or belief they can conceive.This type of confusion is being absorbed into the minds of most people today because they either disbelieve Gods word or they don't understand Gods word. People are trusting in the doctrines and traditions of men and so many are blindly accepting the things of Satan.
We are reliving the days of Nimrod and its going to get worse.
NIMROD and the Babylonians are "newage" also.
History is far older and accountable than your religion and science would have you believe.
Perhaps you need a new set of "lenses"?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#459916 Jul 8, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
NIMROD and the Babylonians are "newage" also.
History is far older and accountable than your religion and science would have you believe.
Perhaps you need a new set of "lenses"?
It seems yer bible an the world scientists would have ya believe you was jist borned yesterday...Was Ya? I thought not...maybe ya need ta look jist a little deeper than what ya find "comfortable".
Now mind ya, ya might not be real comfortable with the things ya find...but--- they will be truer than what you ever been taught...that I can promise ya!

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#459917 Jul 8, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems yer bible an the world scientists would have ya believe you was jist borned yesterday...Was Ya? I thought not...maybe ya need ta look jist a little deeper than what ya find "comfortable".
Now mind ya, ya might not be real comfortable with the things ya find...but--- they will be truer than what you ever been taught...that I can promise ya!
How do you know what you believe is true? Just because one believes something to be true does not mean that it is true.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#459918 Jul 8, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>My friend, NIMROD was the starter of these many so called religions,those that you say pre-dates the religion of the God of Israel. There is much written of Nimrod by ancient writers and Josephus wrote"Nimrod persuadd mankind not to prscribe their happiness to God but to think that his own effort was the source of it. And he soon changed things into a tyranny,thinking there was no other way to wean men from the reverence of God.
So we see in Nimrod Satan's first attempt to raise up a human universal ruler of men. Since then we have seen many other attempts such as Nebuchadnezzar,Alex the Great,Napoleon and in the end times of this earth age, Satan himself will present as a supernatural human,in the personal form of Anti-Christ.
Nimrod was so mighty in the eyes of the people of earth that there was a Semitic proverb that took it's origin or belief that Yahovah was not known in Babylon. In the Hebrew text the manuscripts records...IN DEFIANCE OF GOD.
Genesis 10:10 lists Nimrods kingdoms and Babel is listed. Babel in the Hebrew tongue is BAB-ILI and it comes from the root word #1101 and it means confusion. Real confusion comes anytime man tries to bypass Gods word and substitute his own meanings to things which contradict Gods original text,the Word of God. The word of God is the plan of God which covers in detail this entire earth age.It instructs us in exactly how things are gonna happen.
This is why Revelation 17:5 addresses..MYSTERY,BABYLON THE GREAT,MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. This Babylon is not a city but a condition of confusion that exists on the whole earth. The system or religious order of the people is what causes the confusion. Some people think their salvation lies in knowledge and science or whatever idea or belief they can conceive.This type of confusion is being absorbed into the minds of most people today because they either disbelieve Gods word or they don't understand Gods word. People are trusting in the doctrines and traditions of men and so many are blindly accepting the things of Satan.
We are reliving the days of Nimrod and its going to get worse.
Not really.
We are"reviling" the days after the original teachings of Thoth and Osiris... and they have only gotten worse.
There is no "savior"...that is dependent totally on the individual...that is "exactly" what your Jesus said if you had actually paid any attention to his actual words.
The teachings of Thoth tell you the very same thing your Jesus eludes to in his many words.
PAY ATTENTION!

Stop pointing your finger at everything but yourself and take accountability for your own countenance.
Your religion is "scapegoating" you to your own hell.
You(your spirit) have to pass through the 12 gates (one at a time) by answering the 42 questions(or possessing the 42 virtues), or you must return to the 3D world and continue to learn until you can satisfy that goal. When you have accomplished this, you will not be required to live in the "distressed" world any longer, and will become a "free" "spirit"(unrestricte d). I realize this is contrary to what you have been indoctrinated to believe....so research it for yourself....I have informed you...I can now dust my sandals off...thanks for the opportunity.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#459919 Jul 8, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know what you believe is true? Just because one believes something to be true does not mean that it is true.
If you do not look you will not find. Follow what your Jesus said.
Don't say I didn't tell you. I did...and I even gave you the pointers to how and where. It is up to you to find the truth not I.
Read over ALL that I have said here, and determine if or whether I have lied...you will see.

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