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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665445 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#457636 Jun 29, 2013
socci wrote:
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Noooooo...
Lets say it does read as you say (which it does not) then that would contradict the rest of the Bible. Rather you and your Church just teach a false doctrine by twisting what is written. Jesus is the 'rock' upon which the church (body) was founded.
Nooooo....
Its your 20th century church that tries to change and teach a false doctrine, opposite of what the Apostles were taught by

Jesus' himself!!!

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#457637 Jun 29, 2013
if anything all these Islamic terrorists should be aiming their sites at the sovereign state of Vatican city, take revenge for the murders of thousands of Muslim men, women and children, and retrieve their stolen property. if their going to die for a cause, that sounds like a better one than killing innocent people like their doing. Clear all innocents from around the city and let them have at it,winner take all.

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#457638 Jun 29, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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The problem is you do not speak out in justice...you speak out in ignorance and prejudice and call it justice.
That makes you a hypocrite...and dispicable.
No wonder you do not like public forums...
Don't forget the insults and name calling which she is famous for!
LineDazzle

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#457639 Jun 29, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know what your talking about....I don't read every single post on this thread. I don't have time for that.I only search and read what people post to me mostly. You are also guilty of abusing marge so don't point any fingers..
Tell Black Thunder 42 of my return.

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#457640 Jun 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
When a son shot himself to death right in front of his mother, after the shock of it all subsided a bit ... her comment was "What the f*ck did I ever DO to deserve this?"
That one act probably scarred her for the rest of her life.
If a creator exists, the creator knew ahead of time that drama would unfold, and THAT is cruel behavior!
If you want to worship such a supposed creator, you go for it. It's not on MY agenda.
"When a son shot himself to death right in front of his mother, after the shock of it all subsided a bit ... her comment was "What the f*ck did I ever DO to deserve this?"

"When a daughter commits suicide, because of the actions of her mother, the mother, instead of blaming God for her daughter's death, should get her her knees and ask God to forgive her for causing the death of her daughter."

My point:

If I take a gun and kill a person....I am guilty of causing that person's death.

If, by my actions, I cause a person to commit suicide...I am guilty of causing the death of that person...

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#457641 Jun 29, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Hey Mr. Research, cite the Forbes, WSJ and newspaper/TV financial experts that say it's the 'biggest, richest conglomerate in the world".
you must of missed my homework here it is again:looking into the finances of the church I just read an article that in the U.S. federal reserve bank the Vatican has $7 billion in solid gold alone, it averages 113,000,000 a year in tourism, they also own large parts of every one of the largest banks around the world, Rothschild's of Europe, London, an America. Suisse credit of London an Zurich, Morgan, chase-Manhattan, first national, bankers trust company, billions of shares in gulf oil, shell oil, general motors, Bethlehem steel, I. B. M. this does not include real-estate holdings, plus all that was stolen from people in the beginning of the church, land houses,silver&gold and probably people who were sold as slaves or used in the arena for sport. They killed in gods (crusades) name to steal lands from well mostly Muslims, they were the churches biggest threat, they want religious world dominance, just like they wanted and have their own state, if the are a sovereign country why don't they have to play by the same rules as all other sovereign states? this country should go after them and make them pay for all the illegal aliens they are responsible for in this country. I was surprised at how many when I read the article, no wonder their church numbers are going up down south in Georgia and surrounding states, the church is brining them in illegally.
LTM

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#457642 Jun 29, 2013
Love And Prayer
June 29, 2013 — by David H. Roper
Our Daily Bread
Read: Psalm 92
They shall still bear fruit in old age; they shall be fresh and flourishing.—Psalm 92:14
Bible in a Year:
Job 14-16; Acts 9:22-43
In a popular children’s book, Winnie the Pooh watches Kanga bound away. I wish I could jump like that, he thinks. Some can and some can’t. That’s how it is.
We see younger or more able men and women doing extraordinary things that we cannot do. They can; we can’t. That’s how it is. It’s easy to feel useless when we can’t do the things we were once capable of doing.
It’s true that we may not be able to “jump” like we once did, but we can love and we can pray. These are the works that time and experience have prepared us to do well.
Love is the very best gift we have to give to God and to others. It is no small matter, for love is the means by which we fulfill our whole duty to God and our neighbor. Our love for one person may seem to be a small action, but love is the greatest gift of all (1 Cor. 13:13).
And we can pray. Paul encouraged the Colossians to “continue earnestly in prayer, being vigilant in it with thanksgiving”(Col. 4:2). Our prayers are a powerful force in the universe!
Love and prayer are mighty works indeed, the mightiest works for any of us. Why? Because our God, who wants to use us, is an all-loving and all-powerful God.
Begin the day with God;
Kneel down to Him in prayer;
Lift up thy heart to His abode,
And seek His love to share.—Dann
God pours His love into our hearts that it might flow out to others.

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#457643 Jun 29, 2013
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June VanDerMark wrote:
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Well hello Robert. And greetings to you!
I agree that organized religion is built on fear.
Trust does not fear the hereafter. And trust does not have a need to preach about what ignorance can not know. Trust is about believing in something awesome, without a need to understand. It is akin to throwing a spiritual rope into the sky, and trusting that it will attach to something incomprehensibly beautiful. The rope will never break, because the trust will never be betrayed.
Just my belief.
Hello June
The way you use the word "trusting" in the above "and trusting that it will attach to something", is more akin to "hoping".
The basic problem as I see it is a question of balancing religion and education. Organized religion can serve as teaching tool, but in the end it all comes down to arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. So, what we need especially here in the States is education.
I am afraid that I have some rather "startling" news. As of late, I have been courting atheism! Yea....Surprise!
It was probably only a matter of time. But in my thinking now it is the only way to be open minded and objective....
Robert
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/T675JJ592...
You can run to the concepts of religion, or you can run to the concepts of atheism.
What one really needs to understand is the concept of the ALL and the essence of energy that precludes all existence and matter.
It is what it is.
LTM

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#457644 Jun 29, 2013
Bible Verse of the Day

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

John 8:36 (KJV)

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#457645 Jun 29, 2013
Happy weekend all!

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#457646 Jun 29, 2013
here you go AANTHONY:Pastor to Sue Forbes for Listing 'Richest Pastors' in Brazil; Claims Information Wholly Inaccurate,By Andrea Madambashi , Christian Post Correspondent
February 5, 2013|11:46 pm
A recent report by Forbes magazine listing the richest pastors in Brazil has sparked criticism of evangelical leaders in the country.
One of the pastors mentioned in the list, Silas Malafaia, has promised to file a lawsuit against the magazine for its "shamless" report. Other evangelical leaders have also spoken out against the news saying it presents religion as a profitable business and infringes on the private finances of individuals.
Forbes carried out an investigation into the net worth of the most popular evangelical leaders in Brazil, allegedly basing the figures on numbers reported by Brazil's Public Ministry of the Union and Federal Police.
The magazine said it also used estimates of the value of each pastor's private holdings, Brazilian media has reported, including magazines Veja, Exame, IstoÉ, IstoÉ Dinheiro and newspapers Folha de S. Paulo, O Globo and O Estado de S. Paulo.
The investigation listed the five wealthiest ministers as: Edir Macedo, leader of the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God ($950 million); Valdemiro Santiago, of the World Church of the Power of God ($200 million); Silas Malafaia, president of Victory in Christ Assembly of God ($150 million), RR Soares, of the International Church of the Grace of God ($125 million) and the married couple Estevam Hernandes and Sonia, of the Reborn in Christ Church ($65 million).
Pastor Silas Malafaia, who was included in the list, has denied that the information reported is anywhere near accurate, claiming that all the money from his church, as well as other ministries and companies he is connected with, and offerings and donations received by them, would not even reach half of the amount ($150 million) listed by Forbes as his personal wealth.

what are they hiding?

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#457647 Jun 29, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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The teachings have much value. The Church teaches that stealing, killing, torturing, molesting, fraud is a sin and can lead to eternal damnation. Most faithful Catholics obey these teachings and avoid the sins. Some (including some in the leadership) don't obey these teachings. They will receive their just punishment.
How much money do you think the Catholic Church has?
Perhaps we should make them make an actual and realistic accounting of it(including all their Swiss bank accounts). That would require the antiquities they have hidden in their archives also. I am all for it. It would be quite revealing an a multitude of dimensions...and probably entirely destroy the credibility of the RCC.

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#457648 Jun 29, 2013
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It's pretty clear, we don't "re-crucify" Him. Reading comprehension ain't your strong suit.
"1366 of the CCC basically tells us there is one sacrifice once for all that is made present to us in the mass."

Pure logic: one mass...one sacrifice...10 masses...10 sacrifices..
100 masses...100 sacrifices...1000 masses...1000 masses...

By now you should understand that "we" are re-crucifying Him...every time "we" say the mass...and/or partake in the mass...

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#457649 Jun 29, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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No, the ploy is that you are deflecting away from the fact that you got caught, again, and still won't own up to the fact that you're a hypocrite. That seems to be a habit with you two. Open your big mouths, say whatever you please, and then cry foul when people object. That's how this all started. I'm not the only one who's noticed it, not that it makes a difference. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. I really don't care if you like it or you don't. Who died and left you boss of this thread? Go fight with somebody else since you both thrive on it. That's how you came in here and will likely be how you'll go out.
Have a good evening!!
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You MARIE are a very discusting and mental ill person.YOU are the only Catholic on this forum that has the has the BIG MOUTH that you claim Hermi and I have. It is YOU that does the insults to us and YOU ALONE. No other Catholic on this forum insults us personally or calls us names or trys to bait us into a fight as YOU do.I think it would be best for You to pray.Your post are beginning to sound crazy.

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#457650 Jun 29, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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The teachings have much value. The Church teaches that stealing, killing, torturing, molesting, fraud is a sin and can lead to eternal damnation. Most faithful Catholics obey these teachings and avoid the sins. Some (including some in the leadership) don't obey these teachings. They will receive their just punishment.
How much money do you think the Catholic Church has?
BTW, I would also like to see all the communications and papers within the papacy concerning dialogue with Hitler and the Croatian state.

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#457651 Jun 29, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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No, the ploy is that you are deflecting away from the fact that you got caught, again, and still won't own up to the fact that you're a hypocrite. That seems to be a habit with you two. Open your big mouths, say whatever you please, and then cry foul when people object. That's how this all started. I'm not the only one who's noticed it, not that it makes a difference. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. I really don't care if you like it or you don't. Who died and left you boss of this thread? Go fight with somebody else since you both thrive on it. That's how you came in here and will likely be how you'll go out.
Have a good evening!!
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Regina You really arent that important in my world to get upset about.Ploy #3 is using words like hypocrite,non Orthodox,heretic. Ploy #4 is remaking history ie how terrible Sera and I are. These are ploys because they are impossible to defent. If we say our Spirits are peaceful, then you use ploy #5 ie how arrogant and prideful you are.I watched you. I got you down.There is nothing there. The Princess has no clothes as the old fairy tale goes.I just watch you run the game and can usually guess which ploy you will use next.

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#457652 Jun 29, 2013
LineDazzle wrote:
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Tell Black Thunder 42 of my return.
I think he can read the post for himself.....doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

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#457653 Jun 29, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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You still can't research your way out of a wet paper bag.
Hey jethro, you don't believe in God or the bible, why does anything St. Paul say carry any weight with you? Or is this Catholic-baiting just your way of dealing with your ex dumping you?
Paul is nothing more than a bridge created by theologians to affirm the papacy and bring the pagan into the fold to avert the collapse of Roman theocracy through the process of absorbtion and conversion of the disseminates. That did not work very well so they resorted to torture and death. History is the witness.
LineDazzle

Wrexham, UK

#457654 Jun 29, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>I think he can read the post for himself.....doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
I want his attention drawn to my presence.

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#457655 Jun 29, 2013
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Anthony MN wrote:
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John 6:51-52- then Jesus says that the bread He is referring to is His flesh. The Jews take Him literally and immediately question such a teaching. How can this man give us His flesh to eat?
John 6:53 - 58 - Jesus does not correct their literal interpretation. Instead, Jesus eliminates any metaphorical interpretations by swearing an oath and being even more literal about eating His flesh. In fact, Jesus says four times we must eat His flesh and drink His blood. Catholics thus believe that Jesus makes present His body and blood in the sacrifice of the Mass. Protestants, if they are not going to become Catholic, can only argue that Jesus was somehow speaking symbolically.
John 6:23-53 - however, a symbolic interpretation is not plausible. Throughout these verses, the Greek text uses the word "phago" nine times. "Phago" literally means "to eat" or "physically consume." Like the Protestants of our day, the disciples take issue with Jesus' literal usage of "eat." So Jesus does what?
John 6:54, 56, 57, 58 - He uses an even more literal verb, translated as "trogo," which means to gnaw or chew or crunch. He increases the literalness and drives his message home. Jesus will literally give us His flesh and blood to eat. The word “trogo” is only used two other times in the New Testament (in Matt. 24:38 and John 13:18) and it always means to literally gnaw or chew meat. While “phago” might also have a spiritual application, "trogo" is never used metaphorically in Greek. So Protestants cannot find one verse in Scripture where "trogo" is used symbolically, and yet this must be their argument if they are going to deny the Catholic understanding of Jesus' words. Moreover, the Jews already knew Jesus was speaking literally even before Jesus used the word “trogo” when they said “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?”(John 6:52).
John 6:55 - to clarify further, Jesus says "For My Flesh is food indeed, and My Blood is drink indeed." This phrase can only be understood as being responsive to those who do not believe that Jesus' flesh is food indeed, and His blood is drink indeed. Further, Jesus uses the word which is translated as "sarx." "Sarx" means flesh (not "soma" which means body). See, for example, John 1:13,14; 3:6; 8:15; 17:2; Matt. 16:17; 19:5; 24:22; 26:41; Mark 10:8; 13:20; 14:38; and Luke 3:6; 24:39 which provides other examples in Scripture where "sarx" means flesh. It is always literal.
John 6:55 - further, the phrases "real" food and "real" drink use the word "alethes." "Alethes" means "really" or "truly," and would only be used if there were doubts concerning the reality of Jesus' flesh and blood as being food and drink. Thus, Jesus is emphasizing the miracle of His body and blood being actual food and drink.
John 6:60 - as are many anti-Catholics today, Jesus' disciples are scandalized by these words. They even ask, "Who can 'listen' to it (much less understand it)?" To the unillumined mind, it seems grotesque.
That changes not the facts....

Oxbow wrote: Anthony lied...his words: He uses the Greek word "to gnaw, to chew meat" His flesh.

The truth is: trogo: probably strengthened from a collateral form of the base of 5134 and 5147 through the idea of corrosion or wear; or perhaps rather of a base of 5167 and 5149 through the idea of a craunching sound; to gnaw or chew, i.e.(generally) to eat:--eat. "Eat" is a definition of "trogo". The Greek word for "eat" is "phago", and it means to eat (literally or figuratively):--eat, meat.

Catholics read the definitions in the literal sense...which makes them cannibals.

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